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[QUOTE=CPMachine;5649370]Cool chick. Has a kid but no major damage. Very skinny.
Just hard to meet up because in Hemet.
BBBJ w / CFS $$. 5.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/62df6c94-0982-4989-a1c8-f25ef9cee6f4[/URL][/QUOTE]Profile gone. I think this happens a lot, someone posts a profile, a girl gets bombarded, they run for the hills.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5649812]Profile gone. I think this happens a lot, someone posts a profile, a girl gets bombarded, they run for the hills.[/QUOTE]No! The profile is still there. She must blocked you.
Photo sellers are a pain, but it is not that bad when they are up front about it, either in their profile, or from the get-go.
What I hate are the scammer types who pretend to be "normal" SBs, and string you along, wasting tons of time.
Hallmarks are:
- They agree far to easily to everything. They may even suggest PPM, FWB themselves, like the first one I list.
- Will agree to meet.
- Will even set a date, or suggest a date, usually a week away.
It is only at this point that they ask if you want to see some hot photos. That is when you can be sure of what comes next.
One or two nude / semi-nude photos, and instructions they you need to Cashapp for more.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e2f8b2f6-03d6-4a9b-947d-e7e7a9890e19[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c391e194-2912-4be4-b6b1-e7bd49a53915[/URL]
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5651630]Photo sellers are a pain, but it is not that bad when they are up front about it, either in their profile, or from the get-go.
What I hate are the scammer types who pretend to be "normal" SBs, and string you along, wasting tons of time.
Hallmarks are:
- They agree far to easily to everything. They may even suggest PPM, FWB themselves, like the first one I list.
- Will agree to meet.
- Will even set a date, or suggest a date, usually a week away.
It is only at this point that they ask if you want to see some hot photos. That is when you can be sure of what comes next.
One or two nude / semi-nude photos, and instructions they you need to Cashapp for more.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e2f8b2f6-03d6-4a9b-947d-e7e7a9890e19[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c391e194-2912-4be4-b6b1-e7bd49a53915[/URL][/QUOTE]I experience the same as you mentioned above. In addition to delay first meeting one week with excuses such as out of town or busy working while in fact, they are very active on SA. When it comes to meeting day, they flake and not return messages.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;5652081]I experience the same as you mentioned above. In addition to delay first meeting one week with excuses such as out of town or busy working while in fact, they are very active on SA. When it comes to meeting day, they flake and not return messages.[/QUOTE]This. Just had a SB do this to me. Arranged to meet up at a hotel in the evening, near her side of town, even reconfirmed that afternoon. Checked in all then she ghosted me. Turns out she "overslept" after getting off work, but I'd be willing to bet she got a more generous SD last minute. Another SB I fucked BBFS once flaked on me twice. Once was because of a "car accident" and second was permanent ghosting after asking what the agreed PPM was.
The list of excuses keeps on growing, and if there isn't a angle for these SBs from the get go (like scams, deposits, CashApp, etc.), then it's probably because they got a better offer elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Anontt6;5652112]This. Just had a SB do this to me. Arranged to meet up at a hotel in the evening, near her side of town, even reconfirmed that afternoon. Checked in all then she ghosted me. Turns out she "overslept" after getting off work, but I'd be willing to bet she got a more generous SD last minute. Another SB I fucked BBFS once flaked on me twice. Once was because of a "car accident" and second was permanent ghosting after asking what the agreed PPM was.
The list of excuses keeps on growing, and if there isn't a angle for these SBs from the get go (like scams, deposits, CashApp, etc.), then it's probably because they got a better offer elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I do not think they got better offers from someone else. I tested that theory with two girls. I accepted their over price then asked for M&G. Both girls agreed to meet but when I confirmed a few hours before the meetings, one girl did not respond and the other girl told me the alarm did not work. Some girls showed up with 20-30 minutes late while others do not look like in the pictures such as older or over weight.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5668774]Photos are of reasonable 23 yo Asian gal. Says she is in town until Monday. "She" asks for reasonable $300.
If you want to take her up on this though, she says you have to buy her media first. No buy, no meet.
If you refuse, the language starts to sound unlike an Asian gal.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/49a6499a-6774-41fb-b41e-a5095fa8de13[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes. A lot of scammers on SA recently especially the profiles with blurred pictures.
Just in case, here is the actual message.
" Hey what's going on?
Looking for 300 intimacy included.
Read bio please so you get some info there you don't have to ask.
Hit me up at 415 ******* have kik too at ipopstyle.
More pics on ig at gracious0ne "
Pretty sure it's a "Group Mail," lol
We all know that the the number of SBs asking for money for an initial meet & greet, or for photos and so on, has increased markedly over the years. Driven by "tutorial" videos on TikToc, YouTube, etc.
But today I encountered a new low. When I suggested moving discussion off of SA, a 19 yo SB, username BlackExcellence, told me I had to pay for her to do that!
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5683862]We all know that the the number of SBs asking for money for an initial meet & greet, or for photos and so on, has increased markedly over the years. Driven by "tutorial" videos on TikToc, YouTube, etc.
But today I encountered a new low. When I suggested moving discussion off of SA, a 19 yo SB, username BlackExcellence, told me I had to pay for her to do that![/QUOTE]Don't forget Reddit. Here is her profile, a "real queen" who "knows her worth," LOL [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9ae07d6a-345a-4682-8782-9aaa7c6b68c8[/URL].
Like my last post - the Professional M&Gers are the most toxic. Yet, this trend is driven by people who are paying for them.
Since I haven't subscribed for quite awhile signed up for recently offered turkey day discount. Lots more bs coming from these wannabee pretenders, pros, professional M&G, fakes, scammers. Have met a couple new sbs, moving on to 2nd dates this week.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c2d7cadb-d892-4461-8a97-ee0d6b1a21bd[/URL]
Sends pics, wants deposit up front.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2af5350c-dc02-4b1c-8d82-d1b24fa14fcc[/URL]
Talks a good story, then hits you with "I want to get comfortable with you and sell you some pics first" You'll also see she then disappears and her location is in other parts of the US. Scam and fake.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/66966162-5ee4-466f-a034-5502f7dd3bb6[/URL]
Possibly here in SD. Quickly went to text, she starts sending pics, calls you daddy and we set up a meet. Blocks me, but continues texting for the next day. On the day of the meet, then says "I'm going to get groceries for me and my aunt, can you help me daddy?" Now her profile is in Delaware. I ask her about it, she says I didn't block you, I took my profile down and still wants me to advance her $ but has some excuse as to why she can't meet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cfa7270f-2cca-4391-85b3-5c5a156df3af[/URL]
Seems real. Have had good dialogue, trying to close the deal.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/63eaec74-0967-4b16-ae4d-82c06e6cbeae[/URL]
Have had positive texting, thought we were going to meet but has dropped off. Seems real.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/14e39b2e-173e-41c0-87bd-33cdddf827a9[/URL]
Def a 420 sb. Not that I care, vaping consistently during M&G. Set 2nd date, then day prior when I want to reconfirm, waffles and says I'll get back to you. Finally the following day at 7 pm texts "are you still available" Nexted.
Several others I can't find at the moment. Have gotten the I am going for groceries can you send me cashapp for food scam from several scammers. Don't fall for any money up front for any reason.
Lots of pros on site.
Merry Christmas hope Santa brings you sweet sb.
[QUOTE=Waxxon;5684912]Since I haven't subscribed for quite awhile signed up for recently offered turkey day discount. Lots more bs coming from these wannabee pretenders, pros, professional M&G, fakes, scammers. Have met a couple new sbs, moving on to 2nd dates this week.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c2d7cadb-d892-4461-8a97-ee0d6b1a21bd[/URL]
Sends pics, wants deposit up front.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2af5350c-dc02-4b1c-8d82-d1b24fa14fcc[/URL]
Talks a good story, then hits you with "I want to get comfortable with you and sell you some pics first" You'll also see she then disappears and her location is in other parts of the US. Scam and fake.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/66966162-5ee4-466f-a034-5502f7dd3bb6[/URL]
Possibly here in SD. Quickly went to text, she starts sending pics, calls you daddy and we set up a meet. Blocks me, but continues texting for the next day. On the day of the meet, then says "I'm going to get groceries for me and my aunt, can you help me daddy?" Now her profile is in Delaware. I ask her about it, she says I didn't block you, I took my profile down and still wants me to advance her $ but has some excuse as to why she can't meet.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cfa7270f-2cca-4391-85b3-5c5a156df3af[/URL]
Seems real. Have had good dialogue, trying to close the deal.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/63eaec74-0967-4b16-ae4d-82c06e6cbeae[/URL]
Have had positive texting, thought we were going to meet but has dropped off. Seems real.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/14e39b2e-173e-41c0-87bd-33cdddf827a9[/URL]
Def a 420 sb. Not that I care, vaping consistently during M&G. Set 2nd date, then day prior when I want to reconfirm, waffles and says I'll get back to you. Finally the following day at 7 pm texts "are you still available" Nexted.
Several others I can't find at the moment. Have gotten the I am going for groceries can you send me cashapp for food scam from several scammers. Don't fall for any money up front for any reason.
Lots of pros on site.
Merry Christmas hope Santa brings you sweet sb.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cfa7270f-2cca-4391-85b3-5c5a156df3af?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]
She's real. Did meet and greet. Just haven't had our schedules lined up to meet again yet.
[QUOTE=CPMachine;5684959][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cfa7270f-2cca-4391-85b3-5c5a156df3af?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]
She's real. Did meet and greet. Just haven't had our schedules lined up to meet again yet.[/QUOTE]This one was very nice when making a deal but blocked me right away after the deal failed through. Gave out fake cell number.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/001c00ec-cc5d-457d-89b2-5f65d0c333e2[/URL]
[QUOTE=JWalker350;5685730]This one was very nice when making a deal but blocked me right away after the deal failed through. Gave out fake cell number.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/001c00ec-cc5d-457d-89b2-5f65d0c333e2[/URL][/QUOTE]This one seems legit. Been in the game for a bit. Seeing her this evening. Will report back.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/307bb029-f224-4ce3-ab88-1c1adfc2a021[/URL]
Price For Fuck Factor Score (kinda like the credit rating).
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQF7RDSjQYQ&t=9m35s[/URL]
Kinda relates to this article which can no longer be found.
[URL]https://themalefactor.com/2016/06/12...-normal-women/[/URL]
But here's the article, luckily I saved it.
Why Marriage is Costlier?
Is it cheaper to have sex with normal women than with prostitutes? No, and here is why.
When you have sex with a normal girl, it's by no means "free". You have to take her out to dinner, buy her drinks, and you might have to go on two or even three dates before you will have sex with her. If you add up the total costs of these three dates, it would be approximately around 400 dollars.
Now let's look at the cost of the average high-quality prostitute. You can bang a prostitute for 2 hours for 250 dollars.
What are the benefits of using prostitutes instead of dating normal women?
The average prostitute is far hotter than the average normal woman you can date.
YOU get to do the choosing, and the power of choice is in YOUR hands, instead of in the woman's hands.
With a prostitute, you have sex with her and that's it. No emotional drama, no mind games, no bullshit, like there is with normal women.
You don't have to waste hours of your valuable time that you could otherwise spend on making money, taking women out on dates or trying to pick up women in bars and clubs. No, instead you pay a prostitute for one or two hours of her time, have sex with her, and leave.
You choose WHEN you want to have sex. So let's say you're a busy businessman, instead of wasting 5 hours at a bar or on a date, instead, you'd spend only one or two hours with a prostitute, and that at your convenience too. YOU are the one who chooses WHEN, and so you save a LOT of time.
Prostitutes are DEFINITELY cheaper than getting married. Overall, through a 10-year marriage and divorce, you'd end up spending at least 250,000 dollars. Now let's take that number and divide it by 250 dollars, which is the average price of a high-quality prostitute in a Western country. That is sex with 1000 different high-quality prostitutes. Now if you talk to any married man, who is HONEST, he will admit that sex with the wife after the first 6 months or year starts to get boring. And this is why people in long-term relationships barely have sex because it's BORING having sex with the same person time after time. Variety is the spice of life! You could have sex with 1000 different women for the same price it would cost to marry one woman and have sex with her. And considering how unstable most western women are nowadays, the chance of divorce is around 60%, with the woman initiating the divorce 90% of the time. You are likely to lose at least 50% of your assets and savings in a divorce, and so marriage to a western woman may end up costing you up to 500,000 dollars or even a million dollars, once you add in the divorce costs and long-term child payment and alimony costs.
So let's take that number, one million dollars, and divide it by 250. That's 4000 DIFFERENT women you could pay to have sex with, instead of marrying one woman who will just end up turning into a ***** and divorcing you anyway. So it's your choice guys. Would you rather marry one woman, who will get bored of sex after 6 months, and end up stealing all your assets and savings in divorce, or would you rather have sex with 4000 different beautiful women for the same price?
It's Love or Rape?
Another very relevant point is that the world of modern dating has become quite risky. Most women see nothing wrong with making a false rape accusation against a man. Most rape cases are fake and are done out of a motive of REVENGE by the woman. Did you break up with your girlfriend? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation against you just to get revenge. Did you cheat on your girl with another girl? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation just to get revenge on you. Forgot to tell your girlfriend "happy birthday"? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation against you in order to get revenge on you. At least 90% of rape cases are FALSE, the sex was CONSENSUAL and the woman later changed her mind AFTER the act and decided "oh it was rape". LOL. And this is why the police no longer take rape cases seriously because literally, 90% of women who claim to have been raped are LYING!
So that is another HUGE benefit of prostitutes. A prostitute won't make a false rape accusation against you.
Why Men Choose Prostitutes?
What's another GREAT reason that men choose to use prostitutes? Because by paying for sex, they can have sex with a MUCH hotter quality of woman than they would normally. For example, if we rate women on a scale of 1 to 10 in terms of beauty. The average guy will be able to pick up and have sex with a 4 or a 5 from a bar, a club, or Tinder. Meanwhile, if the same man paid for sex with a high-quality prostitute for $250 dollars (about the same amount of money he would spend picking up a 4 or 5 from a bar, club, or Tinder), the prostitute he would have sex with would be an 8 or 9 on the beauty scale.
So for the same amount of money, he can have sex with a much hotter woman, and with much less effort too. Think about all the effort you have to put in to go to a bar or club. You have to buy good clothes, you have to spend lots of money on drinks and food, and also have to spend a lot of money on making sure your apartment is cool and stylish so the girl will feel comfortable there.
So unless you're a man who was blessed with the looks of Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and have women chasing after you, the easiest and cheapest option for most men to have sex with the hottest quality of women is to simply PAY for sex with a hot prostitute. One guy was asked why he paid to have sex with prostitutes and his reply was "If I'm being brutally honest, the hottest women I've ever had sex with have been prostitutes. I would never be able to have sex with women who are ridiculously hot unless they were prostitutes. " I can also personally testify to this point. The types of chicks I was getting from Tinder were mostly fat or at best mildly hot, I would have rated them between a 3 and a 6 on the attraction scale. Then the first time I went to a prostitute, I have blown away by the options and the QUALITY too. Here were super hot girls who I could bang for such a cheap price. Needless to say, I gave up on dating and ONLY bang prostitutes now. I'm a much happier and peaceful person as a result.
Another couple of reasons that men gave as to why they choose to have sex with prostitutes are:
"Getting a prostitute is so easy: no strings attached, you can choose the woman you want before you purchase, then they arrive at your door. Couldn't be easier".
I can also testify to this. Getting a normal girl to have sex is a real pain in the ass and involves so much struggle, drama, and mind games. Then of course after you have sex with her, you have to deal with her stalking you, calling you so many times, and with her unrealistic expectation that you are going to have a committed and exclusively relationship with her. All that compared with the EASE of banging a hot prostitute, and the choice is simple. I chose to not waste time trying to date women anymore and only bang hot prostitutes now.
"We want to have sex without all the bullshit of pretending to be really interested in a girl. When you pay for sex, you don't have to swap numbers at the end when you know you won't call. You pay, have sex, she leaves. Everyone's happy. ".
This goes along with the above point. With normal women and dating, you have to PRETEND to care about her and PRETEND to be interested in her, when in reality all you want is to have sex with her. With a prostitute, there are no pretensions and that really is a beautiful thing because ultimately then sex becomes about the raw physical act as well as the pure attractiveness of the woman, and thus you are able to enjoy sex a lot more.
About the Author – Author John Doe is an avid reader of The Male Factor. Views expressed in this article are his personal.
[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;5702395]Price For Fuck Factor Score (kinda like the credit rating).
Now let's look at the cost of the average high-quality prostitute. You can bang a prostitute for 2 hours for 250 dollars.
[/QUOTE]Ummmmmm. No. I guess there are different definitions of "average high-quality" but I'm not seeing what *I* refer to as high-quality (under 30, thin, toned, enhanced, beautiful face, enthusiastic GFE service) for anything under about $600+ per hour. About the best you're going to do is the asian agencies, but even those are at $260/ hr to $360/ hr. Maybe some latinas in the $350-$450 range. But if you want a white / caucasian girl who fits the profile of what I have in parentheses above. $600/ hr and up is what you're looking at for 99.9% of those girls.
I'll also say that when I've been lucky enough to attract a "IRL" girl that fits my standards, the monetary investment in a REAL girlfriend is WAAAAY lower than with escorts on a sex / hr rate. However, if you like to sample multiple flavors, I will say obviously that's a big plus on the escorting side. For me, when I find a chick that fits what I want and actually is willing to date me IRL, I go for that. Between relationships I go with the escorts to "scratch the itch". I'm guessing at some point I'll either settle down (as far as she knows, LOL) with a girl I date -OR- I'll no longer be able to, on occasion, organically attract the girls I prefer. Either way, I'm prob a member of "the hobby" for life. But you won't find me justifying / rationalizing the expenditure we all make in it. It's a LOT of cash. But it's worth it! LOL.
Interesting articles. While I agree the general concept based on my own experience (married + gfs + SBs + hookers), here are my 2 cents:
- GFs are costly and a lot of strings attached. However, the engagement and passion during sex is much better than SBs and hookers. My most memorable sex are with GFs.
- SBs: I found them even harder than to find the real SBs than GFs.
- Hookers: No String attached. Easy. But mostly lack of passion and not able to go with bare (my personal choice with warden at home). High quality hookers (like what Wahoo2000 said) is 600+ nowadays.
[QUOTE=Wahoo2000;5702556]Ummmmmm. No. I guess there are different definitions of "average high-quality" but I'm not seeing what *I* refer to as high-quality (under 30, thin, toned, enhanced, beautiful face, enthusiastic GFE service) for anything under about $600+ per hour. About the best you're going to do is the asian agencies, but even those are at $260/ hr to $360/ hr. Maybe some latinas in the $350-$450 range. But if you want a white / caucasian girl who fits the profile of what I have in parentheses above. $600/ hr and up is what you're looking at for 99.9% of those girls.
I'll also say that when I've been lucky enough to attract a "IRL" girl that fits my standards, the monetary investment in a REAL girlfriend is WAAAAY lower than with escorts on a sex / hr rate. However, if you like to sample multiple flavors, I will say obviously that's a big plus on the escorting side. For me, when I find a chick that fits what I want and actually is willing to date me IRL, I go for that. Between relationships I go with the escorts to "scratch the itch". I'm guessing at some point I'll either settle down (as far as she knows, LOL) with a girl I date -OR- I'll no longer be able to, on occasion, organically attract the girls I prefer. Either way, I'm prob a member of "the hobby" for life. But you won't find me justifying / rationalizing the expenditure we all make in it. It's a LOT of cash. But it's worth it! LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DogRice;5702642]Interesting articles. While I agree the general concept based on my own experience (married + gfs + SBs + hookers), here are my 2 cents:
- GFs are costly and a lot of strings attached. However, the engagement and passion during sex is much better than SBs and hookers. My most memorable sex are with GFs.
- SBs: I found them even harder than to find the real SBs than GFs.
- Hookers: No String attached. Easy. But mostly lack of passion and not able to go with bare (my personal choice with warden at home). High quality hookers (like what Wahoo2000 said) is 600+ nowadays.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with Dog Rice about harder to find a real SB than a GF. I have had 5 girls agreed to meet and greet this month. Only one showed up, 3 cancelled a few hours before meeting and one did not respond when I confirmed 2 hours before the meeting. 10+ Girls did not say anything when I asked for meet and greet. About 5 girls asked to pay for their time from $200-$400 for coffee meeting or lunch / dinner.
[QUOTE=DogRice;5702642]Interesting articles. While I agree the general concept based on my own experience (married + gfs + SBs + hookers), here are my 2 cents:
- GFs are costly and a lot of strings attached. However, the engagement and passion during sex is much better than SBs and hookers. My most memorable sex are with GFs.
- SBs: I found them even harder than to find the real SBs than GFs.
- Hookers: No String attached. Easy. But mostly lack of passion and not able to go with bare (my personal choice with warden at home). High quality hookers (like what Wahoo2000 said) is 600+ nowadays.[/QUOTE]No real arguments. If you tallied up what my SO costs me compared to the # of times we've had sex, not to mention the # of times we've had good sex, she would more than exceed the definition of GPS. However, I am getting a lot more out of the relationship than sex.
Regarding my SBs, I've been lucky I would say, to have found a couple of really outstanding SBs. Kind, honest, responsible, respectable, bright. I would rate the experiences as good as GFs, and in some ways better, because there is always that tension as to whether a GF will become a SO. I make it clear to all my SBs I am married for life, for many many reasons. So, a vanilla relationship is off the table. I think that actually makes it more likely that the sex will be smoking hot. We can really be uninhibited b / c we don't have to worry about what the other will think of us some years down the road.
IK that two of my long-term arrangements included real mutual affection and respect, and thankfully smoking hot sex. You could never get that sort of combo from an escort. I saw an ex-SB yesterday, just for an hour while she was visiting for the holidays, it (and her messages after) proved yet again that she wasn't just in it for the dough. This is why I never went to an escort despite a sexless marriage. I knew I couldn't get what I was seeking, that I absolutely do get from my SBs.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;5702752]I have to agree with Dog Rice about harder to find a real SB than a GF. I have had 5 girls agreed to meet and greet this month. Only one showed up, 3 cancelled a few hours before meeting and one did not respond when I confirmed 2 hours before the meeting. 10+ Girls did not say anything when I asked for meet and greet. About 5 girls asked to pay for their time from $200-$400 for coffee meeting or lunch / dinner.[/QUOTE]Did you speak w / them by phone before the putative meet? I always do this. It is one thing to do messaging by text and email, and it is quite an escalation to go from that to getting in their car and driving to a Starbucks. Plus, this saves me trouble, b / c sometimes I talk to these girls, and there is just no connection whatsoever. Why waste my time on those, no matter what they're offering in terms of sugar deals?
And, BTW, meeting a potential SB is a far cry from getting a GF.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5703082]Did you speak w / them by phone before the putative meet? I always do this. It is one thing to do messaging by text and email, and it is quite an escalation to go from that to getting in their car and driving to a Starbucks. Plus, this saves me trouble, b / c sometimes I talk to these girls, and there is just no connection whatsoever. Why waste my time on those, no matter what they're offering in terms of sugar deals?
And, BTW, meeting a potential SB is a far cry from getting a GF.[/QUOTE]Mostly just texting. I did not speak to them.
For those dudes married and not disclosed such to potential SBs. What tips / advice do you have on having a good run while keeping it in the DL? I know some SBs don't mind but many do. Hard to navigate. Secret agent lifestyle not free agent 😂.
I was divorced when I got in the bowl. But now on the way back to the aisle 😔.
[QUOTE=Poksman;5705842]For those dudes married and not disclosed such to potential SBs. What tips / advice do you have on having a good run while keeping it in the DL? I know some SBs don't mind but many do. Hard to navigate. Secret agent lifestyle not free agent 😂.
I was divorced when I got in the bowl. But now on the way back to the aisle 😔.[/QUOTE]I am upfront about it. Rarely an issue, and if it is, then best to not get involved anyway.
In any case, the SB would need to be dense not to figure it out. You will need to be discreet. Have limited availability, etc etc.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5553220]I can confirm this.[/QUOTE]I tried chatting with this Kristy porn star, she lead me off the site on the first message and asked for 1 k. I said I'm not trying to meet for the entire night, and countered with 400 for a few hours. She noped me and wished me a happy new year. She seems hot but have had hotter for less. A porn star seems fun but is she worth the 1 k? DM if anyone wants to trade good intel.
Did previous M&G. Met for dinner and drinks. Got a hotel.
Skinny, blonde, lots of tats, decent face. She's like the 5 freeway. Easy ride, decent scenery but heavy traffic. Semi pro.
DATY. No BJ. Covered FC. Can be had for $$ 5 Might repeat.
[QUOTE=Poksman;5705842]For those dudes married and not disclosed such to potential SBs. What tips / advice do you have on having a good run while keeping it in the DL? I know some SBs don't mind but many do. Hard to navigate. Secret agent lifestyle not free agent 😂.
I was divorced when I got in the bowl. But now on the way back to the aisle 😔.[/QUOTE]I don't currently have any concerns, but in the past I had. How to manage a SB.
Be open about her place in your life and schedule. Tell her what her role is, and although you may want the fun to be hot, be sure it's professional and cool enough. Keep as much of your real life away from her. Make it clear, she has no rights to your time, or to you. If she has any issues or claims, walk away right away.
You contact her, you set up appointments, she cannot be permitted to contact you. Have a burner phone of course.
Visit her when it's good for you. Be sure to never neglect your woman at home. Quite often you will have to fuck both of them in same day with the same passion.
Have a pattern that explains when you are away. Gym, motorcycling with guys, softball games, something innocent.
All this is for a SB, not a GF, or a love affair. They have entirely larger challenges to consider. Good luck with your marriage and with mongering.
[QUOTE=JpLouis1313;5712043]Did previous M&G. Met for dinner and drinks. Got a hotel.
Skinny, blonde, lots of tats, decent face. She's like the 5 freeway. Easy ride, decent scenery but heavy traffic. Semi pro.
DATY. No BJ. Covered FC. Can be had for $$ 5 Might repeat.[/QUOTE]Link or pics?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5702757]No real arguments. If you tallied up what my SO costs me compared to the # of times we've had sex, not to mention the # of times we've had good sex, she would more than exceed the definition of GPS. However, I am getting a lot more out of the relationship than sex.
Regarding my SBs, I've been lucky I would say, to have found a couple of really outstanding SBs. Kind, honest, responsible, respectable, bright. I would rate the experiences as good as GFs, and in some ways better, because there is always that tension as to whether a GF will become a SO. I make it clear to all my SBs I am married for life, for many many reasons. So, a vanilla relationship is off the table. I think that actually makes it more likely that the sex will be smoking hot. We can really be uninhibited b / c we don't have to worry about what the other will think of us some years down the road.
IK that two of my long-term arrangements included real mutual affection and respect, and thankfully smoking hot sex. You could never get that sort of combo from an escort. I saw an ex-SB yesterday, just for an hour while she was visiting for the holidays, it (and her messages after) proved yet again that she wasn't just in it for the dough. This is why I never went to an escort despite a sexless marriage. I knew I couldn't get what I was seeking, that I absolutely do get from my SBs.[/QUOTE]It's a silly question, (from a person not married at all), but I guess Tax benefits?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQRDqAqwGAk[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQF7RDSjQYQ&t=587s[/URL] (PFFF score).
[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;5712367]It's a silly question, (from a person not married at all), but I guess Tax benefits?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQRDqAqwGAk[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQF7RDSjQYQ&t=587s[/URL] (PFFF score).[/QUOTE]I don't need to explain myself to you, and I didn't bother to watch the video.
My original post did say "I am getting a lot more out of the relationship than sex. ".
No not tax benefits, many factors, pretty obvious ones, like family and $.
[QUOTE=CPMachine;5712202]Link or pics?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JpLouis1313;5712043]Did previous M&G. Met for dinner and drinks. Got a hotel.
Skinny, blonde, lots of tats, decent face. She's like the 5 freeway. Easy ride, decent scenery but heavy traffic. Semi pro.
DATY. No BJ. Covered FC. Can be had for $$ 5 Might repeat.[/QUOTE]I was wondering the same thing - Who?
If you are able to increase your radius then you may hit a gold mine.
2 days back I saw a girl from SA in South OC.
I got a hotel there and spent 6 hrs with her and did all things bare.
Before doing bare I made sure we have our test resuots as I am bit paranoid.
She is 31 year old mom of 1 kid and completely non pro.
I'd rate her 8 for her body and 7 for her face.
She was a great company.
[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;5712367]It's a silly question, (from a person not married at all), but I guess Tax benefits?.[/QUOTE]Do you live in California?
You know that this is a community property state, right?
The only ones who can afford to divorce are the poor, or the rich, neither of whom care. Those in the middle though are financially ruined.
An Italian Prince. A sugar daddy. Has launched a legal action against his Belarusian SB, claiming he was conned out of hundreds of thousands of Euros.
Prince Giacomo Bonanno Di Linguaglossa, 51, fell for Tanya Yashenko.
The pair struck up a romance, with the prince taking her on holiday to glamorous places around the globe, from Cannes and Monte Carlo to Switzerland, Dubai, the Maldives and Beverly Hills.
The Italian aristocrat's generosity apparently knew no bounds – he bought his tall, blonde girlfriend a Mercedes GLC 220 worth €83,000, paid €18,000 in rent on her behalf for an apartment in the historic centre of Rome, granted her a €58,000 share in a boutique bed and breakfast and gave her cash payments of around €80,000.
The prince was the victim of a phenomenon in which "falling in love confuses the brain to the point of rendering a person incapable of understanding a situation," said his lawyer, Armando Fergola.
The supposed condition "above all affects people aged over 50." Ms Yashenko had behaved like "a sugar baby", taking advantage of the generosity of her "sugar daddy" boyfriend.
Insecure and "fragile", the prince had been "manipulated" by his young lover, his lawyer said. The aristocrat gave her cash and other property worth between €500,000 and €1 million.
The couple met in October 2019, enjoying dinners in Rome's smartest restaurants and luxury holidays around the world.
But their relations soured after a while, with Ms Yashenko increasingly unhappy with her situation and calling the prince "a cheapskate" and "a bum", according to court documents cited by the Italian press.
He was initially apologetic, at one point writing to her: "I'm deeply sorry. On Monday morning I will go to the bank and I will pay for the car. The rent is already paid. I love you. I'm mortified."
She told him: "A woman is a flower who must be protected and venerated every second of the day."
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5715405]An Italian Prince. A sugar daddy. Has launched a legal action against his Belarusian SB, claiming he was conned out of hundreds of thousands of Euros.
Prince Giacomo Bonanno Di Linguaglossa, 51, fell for Tanya Yashenko.
The pair struck up a romance, with the prince taking her on holiday to glamorous places around the globe, from Cannes and Monte Carlo to Switzerland, Dubai, the Maldives and Beverly Hills.
The Italian aristocrat's generosity apparently knew no bounds he bought his tall, blonde girlfriend a Mercedes GLC 220 worth 83,000, paid 18,000 in rent on her behalf for an apartment in the historic centre of Rome, granted her a 58,000 share in a boutique bed and breakfast and gave her cash payments of around 80,000.
The prince was the victim of a phenomenon in which "falling in love confuses the brain to the point of rendering a person incapable of understanding a situation," said his lawyer, Armando Fergola.
The supposed condition "above all affects people aged over 50." Ms Yashenko had behaved like "a sugar baby", taking advantage of the generosity of her "sugar daddy" boyfriend.
Insecure and "fragile", the prince had been "manipulated" by his young lover, his lawyer said. The aristocrat gave her cash and other property worth between 500,000 and 1 million.
The couple met in October 2019, enjoying dinners in Rome's smartest restaurants and luxury holidays around the world.
But their relations soured after a while, with Ms Yashenko increasingly unhappy with her situation and calling the prince "a cheapskate" and "a bum", according to court documents cited by the Italian press.
He was initially apologetic, at one point writing to her: "I'm deeply sorry. On Monday morning I will go to the bank and I will pay for the car. The rent is already paid. I love you. I'm mortified."
She told him: "A woman is a flower who must be protected and venerated every second of the day."[/QUOTE]A fool and his money are soon parted bur a fool and his money while he has an erection is even worse.
[QUOTE=DeepMassage;5715652]A fool and his money are soon parted bur a fool and his money while he has an erection is even worse.[/QUOTE]That she is Russian should be a warning to you. The Russian SBs are often very hot and sexual, but mostly lead to disappointment in the long run. They are mostly quite mercenary, and give a feeling of an escort. I had a short fling w / one, she was married, a mail order bride, and as soon as her daughter was 18, she was dumping the dupe who she took for a ride.
We tend to warn others on here about scammers and flakes. Very valuable info.
But there are also SBs who are real, but provide a very poor, no-repeat experience. A list of those would also be useful!
This gal is a perfect example (at least with me). A slim, petite, good looking, very fit MILF, agreeable to a reasonable allowance. But awful delivery in the bedroom.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d35bf34-84ad-4af3-9b49-2fbd2dd0e302[/URL]
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5719192]We tend to warn others on here about scammers and flakes. Very valuable info.
But there are also SBs who are real, but provide a very poor, no-repeat experience. A list of those would also be useful!
This gal is a perfect example (at least with me). A slim, petite, good looking, very fit MILF, agreeable to a reasonable allowance. But awful delivery in the bedroom.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d35bf34-84ad-4af3-9b49-2fbd2dd0e302[/URL][/QUOTE]Yea, this is a good idea. This will help us weed out the bad ones and not constantly waste 'meets. ' She is hot BTW.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f1ce1ecc-5e25-4e98-86e8-cd7214300af4[/URL]
Made plans. Said she was 29 minutes away. Never showed. 40 minutes later shows she's active on site. Waste of time.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5719192]We tend to warn others on here about scammers and flakes. Very valuable info.
But there are also SBs who are real, but provide a very poor, no-repeat experience. A list of those would also be useful!
This gal is a perfect example (at least with me). A slim, petite, good looking, very fit MILF, agreeable to a reasonable allowance. But awful delivery in the bedroom.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d35bf34-84ad-4af3-9b49-2fbd2dd0e302[/URL][/QUOTE]Can you give little more information about her awful? Thanks.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;5721039]Can you give little more information about her awful? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think it would be a mistake to start publishing public reviews of SBs.