Massage Parlor Reports

At the risk of piling on, Great Post D. O. G!

I just want to reinforce a couple of points he made that are spot on & usually don't get a lot of discussion:

1) Getting naked and being comfortable is huge to her being comfortable. As a side note, this goes for regular non-massage escort providers, too. If she leads you to the bedroom, Get naked! Lay down on the bed. She'll take it from there.

2) Accept the shower! DOG articulated it perfectly.

3) Use the plastic zippered bag for your valuables. In fact, bring your own. They cost like $2 at WalMart or Target and will fold up and fit in your pocket.

[QUOTE=Fengzi;1447519]And I can't think of a SINGLE foot massage place in Duluth that will turn down women. Women make up the bulk of the business. Walk into a Chinese massage joint during the day and what to you see? Groups of housewives having a foot massage party. Once again, the reactionaries are confusing the Korean AMPs with the Chinese foot massage places. I suppose Asian child sex trafficking goes on in Georgia somewhere, but it must be in some sort of underground network that none of us ever see.[/QUOTE]Exactly. However, this is a great opportunity for guys like you to speak their piece at these public hearings as both a legit customer and friend of owners / masseuses. Even though it's Duluth I think it would behoove guys like Mark at Harmony on Buford Hwy to show up, speak up and demand that these church do-gooders present one iota of evidence of impropriety at these massage parlors. Would be great if they could show photos of groups of women getting foot massages as well. Nothing like a few pictures to rebuff rumors and kill the credibility of these overzealous church assholes. If they over-regulate or ban massage parlors in Duluth, Norcross and Doraville will be next.

[QUOTE=ShortFoot; 1447486]I sure would like some of what these idiots are smoking! The average age of an Atlanta AMP's masseuse is over 40yrs old!

[url]http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/duluth-wants-crack-down-illegal-massage-parlor-act/nN5Q4/[/url][/QUOTE]Might be a good idea to give Mr. Chip a call and ask what he's smoking. He's certainly not playing with a full deck.

[QUOTE=Jailbait66; 1446449]After seeing the good reviews recently I decided to try them out today. Wasn't expecting much since I haven't had a good experience at an AMP since I moved here not long ago and maybe that is part of the reason I was so blown away.

Again, its been a long while since I had even a decent AMP experience so based on this trip I doubt ill try anywhere else for a good while. Highly, highly recommend.[/QUOTE]I needed a break after a bad experience at Tokyo's in Cartersville. After also hearing great things about Golden on here lately, I stopped by. Great location, inside looks like lounge and I pulled Summer. 5'7, face 7, body 8, attitude 10, massage 2 (she did the infamous elbows to the back. They didn't even give this girl a basic's massage class) , HE was 8 (it's all I wanted, full roaming) , damage $ 1/2hr. I will definitely go back but only ask for foot and legs massage.

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1447545]Suave:

This hobby is all about trial and error, both when you are first getting into it and when you are going to a new MP / AMP to TOFTT. But, there are some basics to this hobby that might help increase your odds of leaving with a smile on your face. Here are a few:

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

Revision 1: A mamsan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.

8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.

13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage is available. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.

This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 30+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from various "Massage" Forums. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and pass this on to other guys. Next time someone asks for "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them in the right direction, and hopefully others will share their tips and advice.

Enjoy the hobby[/QUOTE]Great post. It's very thorough and right on the money.

[QUOTE=Cbr005;1447968]I needed a break after a bad experience at Tokyo's in Cartersville. After also hearing great things about Golden on here lately, I stopped by. Great location, inside looks like lounge and I pulled Summer. 5'7, face 7, body 8, attitude 10, massage 2 (she did the infamous elbows to the back. They didn't even give this girl a basic's massage class) , HE was 8 (it's all I wanted, full roaming) , damage $ 1/2hr. I will definitely go back but only ask for foot and legs massage.[/QUOTE]Foot and leg massage only at a Korean-run massage parlor? They probably won't know how to react.

[QUOTE=Steak 404; 1447908]At the risk of piling on, Great Post D. O. G!

I just want to reinforce a couple of points he made that are spot on & usually don't get a lot of discussion:

1) Getting naked and being comfortable is huge to her being comfortable. As a side note, this goes for regular non-massage escort providers, too. If she leads you to the bedroom, Get naked! Lay down on the bed. She'll take it from there.

2) Accept the shower! DOG articulated it perfectly.

3) Use the plastic zippered bag for your valuables. In fact, bring your own. They cost like $2 at WalMart or Target and will fold up and fit in your pocket.[/QUOTE]I have held on to my 2001 Ford Explorer strictly for mongering. It is a keypad on the door, so I never bring ANYTHING inside with me other than my cash. Everything else, even keys get left in the car. Keypad never failed me once in 10 years.

[QUOTE=Svtcobra;1448209]I have held on to my 2001 Ford Explorer strictly for mongering. It is a keypad on the door, so I never bring ANYTHING inside with me other than my cash. Everything else, even keys get left in the car. Keypad never failed me once in 10 years.[/QUOTE]I do the same. The only thing I carry inside is cash and keys.

That was a great post from Dirty Old Guy. Thanks for that How-To-AMP guide. It quantifies my average experience from every AMP I've visited. Wish I had read a post like yours before my first-ever visit!

I've been polite, maybe lucky, but always received what I went into one for.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1448015]Foot and leg massage only at a Korean-run massage parlor? They probably won't know how to react.[/QUOTE]Well anything other then elbows. I don't want to complain and have an uptight HE. So what's the best way to handle?

[QUOTE=Svtcobra;1448209]I have held on to my 2001 Ford Explorer strictly for mongering. It is a keypad on the door, so I never bring ANYTHING inside with me other than my cash. Everything else, even keys get left in the car. Keypad never failed me once in 10 years.[/QUOTE]That reminds me of some newbie advice about cars: It's a good idea to drive a non-descript car to AMPs. That bright red Camaro is going to get noticed. Also be careful about business parking stickers or other identifying bumper stickers like "My Child is an Honor Student at XXX Elementary" or "First Baptist Church Men's Softball." Clear away receipts or anything else with your name on it that someone could spot. If you leave valuables in your car, be sure to keep them well hidden and make sure your car has an alarm. Do you really want report a break-in when your car is in an AMP parking lot?

[QUOTE=Svtcobra;1448209]I have held on to my 2001 Ford Explorer strictly for mongering. It is a keypad on the door, so I never bring ANYTHING inside with me other than my cash. Everything else, even keys get left in the car. Keypad never failed me once in 10 years.[/QUOTE]I used to have one of those too. Didn't realize how much I'd miss that keypad, and it never failed me either! Can't believe no one makes those anymore.

Seems like the old Ford Explorer is the mongering vehicle of choice. I have one too and only bring my cash in. Got to love that keypad!

[QUOTE=Svtcobra;1448209]I have held on to my 2001 Ford Explorer strictly for mongering. It is a keypad on the door, so I never bring ANYTHING inside with me other than my cash. Everything else, even keys get left in the car. Keypad never failed me once in 10 years.[/QUOTE]

Since my BP girl in Alpharetta didn't pan out, I went up to Buja Spa. Tiffany was the old one working. 5'0" tall, long straight hair but with no ass and bolt-ons. Turned out even the bolt-ons were not the same size. I just wanted to drop a load so gave her $140 for house and FS, did a couple of positions and got out.

[QUOTE=Cbr005;1448325]Well anything other then elbows. I don't want to complain and have an uptight HE. So what's the best way to handle?[/QUOTE]I would suggest monitoring the forum for good masseuses (it's rare but they do surface) , then go to that AMP and clearly explain what you want before handing any money over. Unless you have to go Asian, you might want to look for a white or black masseuse for a more quality massage. Plenty of them will offer a HE.

Must say this is great information especially for newbies like me.

I would add one minor thing if I may that could actually save you some cash. Before negotiating any extras on the flip, in my experience the girl may give certain signs that she is willing to perform HJ but won't touch you until you make the first move and gently guide her down "there". She may start to gently caress you with her fingernails around your crotch and stomach which can actually be very arousing. Don't be shy to grab her hand and guide her to the spot. If she goes for it, you may be in for a HJ on the house. If she resists, then you'll have to negotiate or give up altogether if she's really not going to provide any extras. This has been my experience at VIP Spa where I walk in with 70 for 1 hour.

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy; 1447545]Suave:

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.[/QUOTE]