[QUOTE=Toungsten;5518495]M. Allie. Nicole (she's back).
[/QUOTE]So M is still booking for Nicole even though she's in OC? I think that might be a first. . .
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[QUOTE=Toungsten;5518495]M. Allie. Nicole (she's back).
[/QUOTE]So M is still booking for Nicole even though she's in OC? I think that might be a first. . .
[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5518947]Unsure the same either. Can someone describe Sasha body wise? I haven't seen Jelly in a long time but she is a big woman. Tall full figured. Not really the typical kgirl build.[/QUOTE]Sasha. Not the same as Jelly advertising now on and off in SM.
Just to add to the ongoing discussion- holy cow she is a small human being. And I thought Teenie / Pocket Girl was small. . .
Comparing the two, as others have said, Teenie has the edge on service, for those that have seen her. Also personally I think Teenie has more of a shapely body than Miso. Miso's body I think is just too small for curves LOL. Also she knows almost ZERO English which is kind of a bummer.
Appearance wise, interestingly enough both don't have a typical Korean girl look. Teenie sort of has a Japanese vibe to her (with her Maegami or "bangs") type hair while Miso curiously sort of looks maybe Chinese? But with a straight nose. The pics that were uploaded sometime earlier are indeed accurate. And I guess while we're talking about small girls I might as well mention that Peach also looks Vietnamese. Everything but Korean. LOL. Anyways that's enough "small talk" for now. HAH.
Some bro in Hawaii heard from an RA / MS there that Nicole was considering going back to her old AMP on the island. Is that the case? I told him she seems to be making money hand over fist in SoCal so unless its for a working vacay I couldn't see why she would leave. The monger scene on the island right now is not nearly as good as it used to be. Besides I want to slither down to LA and sample before I miss my chance.
RJ.
[QUOTE=Ramen25;5519004]So M is still booking for Nicole even though she's in OC? I think that might be a first. . .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CornDoggyDog;5517988]Okay Okay I give up. No matter what, you guys are cheap and think 300-320 is way too much. So these girls deserve to get paid what they did 6 years ago? Should You get paid the same as 6 years ago? If you don't like it, go visit your local massage parlor. I'm sure you'll get a deal.[/QUOTE]The key here is rate of change.
When you nearly double something in price over a short period of time, people arent going to like such a spike. You can have all justification in the world as to why. People aren't going to like it, no matter what their finances can afford. If, however, the rates were raised by 25 dollars each year, constituting gradual change. There'd be less pushback. People don't like sudden Msog and BB upcharges. I particularly dislike msog upcharge, because that was one of the signature things about kgirl service.
If your argument boils down to "if you don't like it go elsewhere", you didn't have much of an argument to begin with.
Saying that girl X isn't good value is a valid, subjective opinion which is what this forum is for, anyway. Value is definitely one of the criteria used to evaluate and review commodities and goods. Why are you shaming people saying theyre cheap for thinking something is not good value?
[QUOTE=Ramen25;5519004]So M is still booking for Nicole even though she's in OC? I think that might be a first. . .[/QUOTE]SFK is still booking her too. I've got an appt scheduled with her tomorrow. She's still at the WLA location according to the booker.
[QUOTE=Toungsten;5518448]Not a typo.[/QUOTE]SFK booker says no tho.
[QUOTE=CornDoggyDog;5517988]Okay Okay I give up. No matter what, you guys are cheap and think 300-320 is way too much. So these girls deserve to get paid what they did 6 years ago? Should You get paid the same as 6 years ago? If you don't like it, go visit your local massage parlor. I'm sure you'll get a deal.[/QUOTE]That is exactly what I do take my business somewhere else at prices that are reasonable too bad LA has affected San Fran k-girl scene but it's ok I travel the whole country so I got my spots the captain save-a-hoe's can't ruin.
On more than one occasion I went out to dinner with a girl after she clocked out early for the day and the girls take a photo of my car license plate and send it off to friends. No problem I got nothing to hide. But I didn't like how that info was used to know everything about me. Name address place o work. It can be used nefariously against you later if they turn on you.
[QUOTE=BuildingGuy;5516742]"Just out of curiosity, have any of you ever gotten the feeling that some of the girls know more about you than just your name rank and serial number? Have you had providers hit on you for gifts or offered a 'special' relationship? Sometimes there are strange vibes. ".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PlutoKiller;5517173]I haven't seen a Kgirl in like 2 months. Not because of the increased rates, but because of multiple reports of bugs caught.[/QUOTE]I paid zero upcharges and no daty. No bbj. No BBFS. Just straight up sport-f'ing cfs. I'm not worried about catching anything but it's not as exciting. I last longer and it's like exercise that's hot and fun.
I did mostly half hours for 220 or 230 max. 240.
One girl thought hhr was 180 and I could've left at that but I gave her 220.
I stayed 1 hr with new Momo because she was my type and so curvy and sexy. That ass and waist-to-ass ratio is off the charts.
[QUOTE=Dlee9753;5518770]Not sure what OP meant by "BBFSCIP for no upcharge" but I paid the rate listed on candygirl: BBFS for 320 + 40 MSOG.[/QUOTE]I was mistaken. I thought she was $320 flat fee. Indeed she is still $260 with a cover.
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[QUOTE=Humyiy;5519293] I stayed 1 hr with new Momo because she was my type and so curvy and sexy. That ass and waist-to-ass ratio is off the charts.[/QUOTE]Momo at 2 P.S. Right? Which did you prefer between her and Jay? Debating seeing one of them next week LOL.
I'm not shaming anyone. You guys are shaming yourselves. For a long time, prices stayed level. The increase of 40-60 is not unreasonable. Just that it happened in the past year. Is it that hard to see? Yes the upcharge is there at 100. But we don't have to take that option. Before bb was widespread, we were all happy with cfs at 260 with the occasional surprise bb. Now that there are agencies that offer bb inclusive, we are spoiled. Even complaining about bb for 320. The inclusive bb girls are only a handful. The other girls are offering it upcharge now cause that's what us nasty fucks want. They are letting us go raw and CIP. They don't want strangers nutting inside them all day! There are plenty of guys now that are happy with cfs girls just as it was in 2015.
[QUOTE=RocketManP;5519091]The key here is rate of change.
When you nearly double something in price over a short period of time, people arent going to like such a spike. You can have all justification in the world as to why. People aren't going to like it, no matter what their finances can afford. If, however, the rates were raised by 25 dollars each year, constituting gradual change. There'd be less pushback. People don't like sudden Msog and BB upcharges. I particularly dislike msog upcharge, because that was one of the signature things about kgirl service.
If your argument boils down to "if you don't like it go elsewhere", you didn't have much of an argument to begin with.
Saying that girl X isn't good value is a valid, subjective opinion which is what this forum is for, anyway. Value is definitely one of the criteria used to evaluate and review commodities and goods. Why are you shaming people saying theyre cheap for thinking something is not good value?[/QUOTE]
I know she was in OC on Friday and left by Sunday. She was not busy. Also there is no T. In OC to help these girls. The OC forum is not as active.
It doesn't matter to me if a girl is busy or not, or if there are many high rollers paying upcharge. I just don't see an upcharge girl unless I think she's hot. All I care is if a girl is hot.
[QUOTE=Ramen25;5519004]So M is still booking for Nicole even though she's in OC? I think that might be a first. . .[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about the short haired crazy keagal girl that was with booker tom and was once uipon a time in sd.
Any info is helpful, can't seem to find the as for her.
Thanks.
Woody.
[QUOTE=RocketManP;5519091]The key here is rate of change.
When you nearly double something in price over a short period of time, people arent going to like such a spike. You can have all justification in the world as to why. People aren't going to like it, no matter what their finances can afford. If, however, the rates were raised by 25 dollars each year, constituting gradual change. There'd be less pushback. People don't like sudden Msog and BB upcharges. I particularly dislike msog upcharge, because that was one of the signature things about kgirl service.
If your argument boils down to "if you don't like it go elsewhere", you didn't have much of an argument to begin with.
Saying that girl X isn't good value is a valid, subjective opinion which is what this forum is for, anyway. Value is definitely one of the criteria used to evaluate and review commodities and goods. Why are you shaming people saying theyre cheap for thinking something is not good value?[/QUOTE]Sounds like you wanted a bargain. You realized before the price increase after the cut the girls keep idk. 200? For dfk BBBJ and you wanted no upcharge for BBFS and msog? Sounds like some of you guys really need to leave this hobby and make it easier for me to get the spot I wanted. You guys do realize there are girls you don't even know existed but doesn't work in the West Coast because we have the lowest rate?
[QUOTE=Sonicus;5519146]That is exactly what I do take my business somewhere else at prices that are reasonable too bad LA has affected San Fran k-girl scene but it's ok I travel the whole country so I got my spots the captain save-a-hoe's can't ruin.[/QUOTE]Yeah.
I think what people are missing with higher prices is that mongers will be more selective and whereas people could toftt before they'd be more inclined to check sites like this one, wit main purpose of asking if girl X is worth it.
Now, what I do find ironic is the following.
When upcharges and price jacking started, some said oh there will be always people to pay whatever for pussy.
Now, when some monger say on here, girl X isn't worth the money, value-wise. The same or similar people are saying mongers are cheap or ruining girls work. Huh? So what happened to the "there will always be people who'll pay whatever"? Certainly it cannot be both, LOL.
Personally, I've seen some girls "on the borderline" in the bay which I could recommend in certain cases for 220 whom I simply cannot and will not recommend for 400. That's how it is, price does matter and is a factor in an industry with a seller and a buyer. That's just how it is.
[QUOTE=SuperMan333;5519417]Sounds like you wanted a bargain. You realized before the price increase after the cut the girls keep idk. 200? For dfk BBBJ and you wanted no upcharge for BBFS and msog? Sounds like some of you guys really need to leave this hobby and make it easier for me to get the spot I wanted. You guys do realize there are girls you don't even know existed but doesn't work in the West Coast because we have the lowest rate?[/QUOTE]I didn't understand half of what you asked me.
I was not looking for a bargain, I'm explaining how it worked in the bay. We had all inclusive services with no upcharges for 220. By all orgs.
Imagine you buy a new iphone every year. It costs let's say 1 k.
You do so for five years and it's always 1 k.
Next year it's 2 k. For same iPhone. Many people will say, hey not worth it to pay double. Many will be unhappy. Even if you say hey iPhone always cost 2 k in bumblefuck, Australia. Not many people would care. They compare present and the past, and a sharp spike in price is never favored by a consumer.
Give me a DDG Kgirl with more expensive rate. I will walk away if they are not hot.
Problem is guys are very secretive when it comes to DDG girls. From what I can see, girls in Seattle, East Coast, Texas, Las Vegas, and even Bay area (now) are nothing to write home about either. There may be some gems outside of SoCal but I am not impressed.
[QUOTE=SuperMan333;5519417]Sounds like you wanted a bargain. You realized before the price increase after the cut the girls keep idk. 200? For dfk BBBJ and you wanted no upcharge for BBFS and msog? Sounds like some of you guys really need to leave this hobby and make it easier for me to get the spot I wanted. You guys do realize there are girls you don't even know existed but doesn't work in the West Coast because we have the lowest rate?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Humyiy;5519293]I paid zero upcharges and no daty. No bbj. No BBFS. Just straight up sport-f'ing cfs. I'm not worried about catching anything but it's not as exciting.[/QUOTE]Na, that wouldn't work for me. This hobby is supposed to be fun and exciting.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;5519432]Give me a DDG Kgirl with more expensive rate. I will walk away if they are not hot.
Problem is guys are very secretive when it comes to DDG girls. From what I can see, girls in Seattle, East Coast, Texas, Las Vegas, and even Bay area (now) are nothing to write home about either. There may be some gems outside of SoCal but I am not impressed.[/QUOTE]My sentiment exactly-I am not paying $$$ for what is out there whether they are BBFS or CFS. The visual is very unattractive.
[QUOTE=BobbyO;5518108]I'd give my left nut to see her again! Or anyone who is close.[/QUOTE]Absolute f'ing HOT body, her BBBJ was incredible and sweet BB pussy always let me cip no problem.
Was my #2 at time, too bad she left LA.
Only downside was her face.
[QUOTE=DblEspresso;5518150][URL]https://www.gfeinvestments.ch/sweet-jelly/[/URL][/QUOTE]Damn, she's still working?
She was almost in MILF category when I dated her off hrs. Fun and sexy girl, voluptuous curvy body.
Bring back old memories dating her.
Surprised she's still working, probably about same age as Pepsi, might be older.
[QUOTE=Toungsten;5518313]What they don't realize is that they once were a bargain but no more. Now they are competing not only against other K-girls but against a whole slew of providers who appeal to the tastes of mongers who are no longer getting bargains in K-girl world.[/QUOTE]By all means I tell anyone on this I write little comments yet see 3-4 plus escorts and massage parlors when I get bored.
This hobby ain't for people making 18 bucks an hour. Once you try BBFS CIP.
Ain't nothin better and more addicting banging these Asian chicks raw.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;5519432]Give me a DDG Kgirl with more expensive rate. I will walk away if they are not hot.
Problem is guys are very secretive when it comes to DDG girls. From what I can see, girls in Seattle, East Coast, Texas, Las Vegas, and even Bay area (now) are nothing to write home about either. There may be some gems outside of SoCal but I am not impressed.[/QUOTE]There are some c-org that has some high end at around $500 personally I never tried because it is too close to home for me. But they got some decent review from Chinese johns.
My problem with the current situation and the on going rate is why do we have a fix rate for all girls? That is never the cases in other countries. If someone with Ravi and Hana's look is at 300, why do some ugly girls that nobody even want to touch with a shovel is charging the same rate? Wouldn't it be better if the less attractive girls start charging idk. 200 or whatever they feel is appropriate? That way I'm sure their slot will get filled up easier. Also, if a more attractive girls start to charge a bit higher than some of their peer, maybe then we should easily be able to identify who is hot and who isn't? And can we please import some really attractive girls at maybe even the $500-600 price point? In my opinion, if we are able to just look at somebody's price we instantly able to figure out who is hot and who is not will be great.
[QUOTE=RocketManP;5519425]I didn't understand half of what you asked me.
I was not looking for a bargain, I'm explaining how it worked in the bay. We had all inclusive services with no upcharges for 220. By all orgs.
Imagine you buy a new iphone every year. It costs let's say 1 k.
You do so for five years and it's always 1 k.
Next year it's 2 k. For same iPhone. Many people will say, hey not worth it to pay double. Many will be unhappy. Even if you say hey iPhone always cost 2 k in bumblefuck, Australia. Not many people would care. They compare present and the past, and a sharp spike in price is never favored by a consumer.[/QUOTE]As with everything, the market dictates the price and we as consumers don't really have an option unless we could find alternatives. Just look at the real estate price, easily gone up 20-30 percent and if you don't want to pay for that then someone else will. From what I learned during my visits, even some of the unattractive girls get 2-3 customers a day, that would still be higher than a lot of what people make so why would they give up that price? I wish we could go back to $240 but I just don't see it.
[QUOTE=SuperMan333;5520010]There are some c-org that has some high end at around $500 personally I never tried because it is too close to home for me. But they got some decent review from Chinese johns.
My problem with the current situation and the on going rate is why do we have a fix rate for all girls? That is never the cases in other countries. If someone with Ravi and Hana's look is at 300, why do some ugly girls that nobody even want to touch with a shovel is charging the same rate? Wouldn't it be better if the less attractive girls start charging idk. 200 or whatever they feel is appropriate? That way I'm sure their slot will get filled up easier. Also, if a more attractive girls start to charge a bit higher than some of their peer, maybe then we should easily be able to identify who is hot and who isn't? And can we please import some really attractive girls at maybe even the $500-600 price point? In my opinion, if we are able to just look at somebody's price we instantly able to figure out who is hot and who is not will be great.[/QUOTE]We'll never see those $250 days again.
SAG has a new Dana [URL]https://www.sweetasiangem.com/dana[/URL].
Is this the same Dana as SFK?
Pictures don't look close to the same person.
[QUOTE=SuperMan333;5520021]As with everything, the market dictates the price and we as consumers don't really have an option unless we could find alternatives. Just look at the real estate price, easily gone up 20-30 percent and if you don't want to pay for that then someone else will. From what I learned during my visits, even some of the unattractive girls get 2-3 customers a day, that would still be higher than a lot of what people make so why would they give up that price? I wish we could go back to $240 but I just don't see it.[/QUOTE]"Bad money drives out good. The legends, the gorgeous and the super freaks are as busy as they want. The old, the fat and the burn-outs (Nuri? Don't have enough business and the bookers try to push them on the clients. If you want to see the legends and the gorgeous be nice and give good tips ($100 min.). You'll be treated well. ".
[QUOTE=SuperMan333;5520021]As with everything, the market dictates the price and we as consumers don't really have an option unless we could find alternatives. Just look at the real estate price, easily gone up 20-30 percent and if you don't want to pay for that then someone else will. From what I learned during my visits, even some of the unattractive girls get 2-3 customers a day, that would still be higher than a lot of what people make so why would they give up that price? I wish we could go back to $240 but I just don't see it.[/QUOTE]Well 20-30% is not 100%. Also, real estate prices fluctuate and can and do go down. Pussy price won't go down below current rates.
I agree that we can't go back. But you also Ave to agree that many are not happy with a sudden spike and now many girls who were maybe worth a toftt or a quick visit are not worth it at the price point.
And yeah you hit on an excellent point about universal price scale for girls. I'm a service guy, and my atfs I have zero issues paying more for. In fact, I'd estimate their worth above 400 to me. They're amazing at what they do. So if anyone asks if theyre worth it just service-wise I'd say yes. Paying for a random or just OK girl for a blind date for 400 with all the upcharges? Yeah no thanks. Not worth it. I've had situations where I'd binge 4 kgirls in a row on the same day and two or even three were mediocre. That still was under 1 k.
My point was, with prices moving up, people shouldn't get on mongers case for saying certain girls are not worth it at the price point. We are simply evaluating the product and product value here.
[QUOTE=SixDNine;5513111]Welcome back. I see Jenny listed as available at SA website. Is she working or just site is not updated?[/QUOTE]Nope, got to see her one time. Super sweet and attractive. But now she is on long Vacation.
[QUOTE=BuildingGuy;5520185]"Bad money drives out good. The legends, the gorgeous and the super freaks are as busy as they want. The old, the fat and the burn-outs (Nuri? Don't have enough business and the bookers try to push them on the clients. If you want to see the legends and the gorgeous be nice and give good tips ($100 min.). You'll be treated well..[/QUOTE]Yep. I've noticed more than a handful of new reviews for Nuri. One hobbyist stated that the main issue is that she is just "shy." Trying to pump up, send business to certain providers that should not be in the business.
Nuri with her super tight pussy would be a regular on my list every week, especially since she can handle magnum. The problem is that she is as your post says 'burnt-out" and is not shy about showing that she does not like this profession.
Seriously?
Nobody likes inflation or spikes in prices. However for the past century, it's been in effect and we all adjust to it. If you are ok with the rates, enjoy yourself. If you are not ok with the rates, there are other options. If you want the Kgirl experience, going to have to pay for it.
[QUOTE=RocketManP;5519425]I didn't understand half of what you asked me.
I was not looking for a bargain, I'm explaining how it worked in the bay. We had all inclusive services with no upcharges for 220. By all orgs.
Imagine you buy a new iphone every year. It costs let's say 1 k.
You do so for five years and it's always 1 k.
Next year it's 2 k. For same iPhone. Many people will say, hey not worth it to pay double. Many will be unhappy. Even if you say hey iPhone always cost 2 k in bumblefuck, Australia. Not many people would care. They compare present and the past, and a sharp spike in price is never favored by a consumer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoofyPanda;5520166]SAG has a new Dana [URL]https://www.sweetasiangem.com/dana[/URL].
Is this the same Dana as SFK?
Pictures don't look close to the same person.[/QUOTE]Not a chance. Advertised weight is not even close.
[QUOTE=DblEspresso;5520149]We'll never see those $250 days again.[/QUOTE]Just saw LSC Cora up in the Bay for 260. Actually felt kinda weird, knowing what she could fetch in SoCal. Looks like a spinner version of JAV Natsuki Maron. If your in the area and miss La Lina / Sera /"Radeon" for her anime-sized peepers, I recommend.
A lot has been mentioned about the increase in charges regarding the Kgirls. BUT. I remember that long before the Kgirl invasion with their agencies and bookers there were a lot of Asian gals charging a lot more. Starting around 2006, some gals were at $400 per hour. Mimi LAX, Joanna, Seda, Rene (Sylvia) were just a few that I remember. I recall Seda later telling me that she had to drop her fee to $250 so as to complete with the new talent. Anyway, my point is that this increase is just a part of life. If down the line, we drop into a major recession with a loss of discretionary income, we might see a drop in fees. But I'm not really sure of that either.
[QUOTE=Veni1;5520459]A lot has been mentioned about the increase in charges regarding the Kgirls. BUT. I remember that long before the Kgirl invasion with their agencies and bookers there were a lot of Asian gals charging a lot more. Starting around 2006, some gals were at $400 per hour. Mimi LAX, Joanna, Seda, Rene (Sylvia) were just a few that I remember. I recall Seda later telling me that she had to drop her fee to $250 so as to complete with the new talent. Anyway, my point is that this increase is just a part of life. If down the line, we drop into a major recession with a loss of discretionary income, we might see a drop in fees. But I'm not really sure of that either.[/QUOTE]You're talking about top of the line girls as opposed to run of the mill girls.
[QUOTE=GoofyPanda;5520166]SAG has a new Dana [URL]https://www.sweetasiangem.com/dana[/URL].
Is this the same Dana as SFK?
Pictures don't look close to the same person.[/QUOTE]Different Dana.
M. Allie. Nicole.
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