"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Eagle7415;6403340][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/acbc2512-c0ab-4746-8112-9051e8177fe9[/URL]

Had a good time with her recently. She's fun, but don't fall for giving her any coin up front. Talks a lot about crazy stuff but totally harmless. She came to me. Be nice and respectful, DTF. Seniors PM for details.[/QUOTE]From what I've read previously about her, I hope you wrapped it. I can't speak personally, but there's a thread in here somewhere about it. I was pursuing her for awhile but gave up even before that due to her craziness.

[QUOTE=JaJunk;6484901]From what I've read previously about her, I hope you wrapped it. I can't speak personally, but there's a thread in here somewhere about it. I was pursuing her for awhile but gave up even before that due to her craziness.[/QUOTE]Anyone who doesn't wrap it really needs a reality check. Most of these ladies see many dudes, I know she does. She is crazy but really submissive and but does talk crazy! Good luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4c9583a4-34a3-4e88-80f8-bf7f334bfe02?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]

M & G, she is more attractive in person then her pics and about 5'10". She is very open minded about everything, a lot of adult experience including currently an exotic dancer. So she knows how to work a guy, also complained about dead beat daddies-LOL I didn't feel a connection, but she did want to get together but is too expensive and transaction like for me. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6433781]So are you giving up on the old OneVanilla, now Secure Spend, card?[/QUOTE]I tried Secure Spend Visa card and it did not work for me. Also the Secure Spend Visa card has no option to enter any personal / sugar information such as name or address. Only showing the card balance and select the personal pins.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6430267]I posted about this in a preliminary way, search for that.

I found cards that are issued by Blackhawk. I include a picture of the exact card I used. When I bought it the cashier tore open a window on the back. Once I opened the packaging and saw the card, I recognized it from one I had long ago that worked.

I did go to the card website and put in a bunch of fake sugar info for the address, etc, and also put in a PIN.

I went to seeking and tried to pay with it. I got the usual message that they don't have a great success rate w / prepaid debit cards and they hope that I will use a major credit card. I went ahead anyway. I also used the discount code I posted about recently. The site was grinding away for a while, but ultimately, my membership renewal went through. With the discount. I gave up no personal information to do so.[/QUOTE]What store did you find this Blackhawk card? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Eagle7415;6485681][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4c9583a4-34a3-4e88-80f8-bf7f334bfe02?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]

M & G, she is more attractive in person then her pics and about 5'10". She is very open minded about everything, a lot of adult experience including currently an exotic dancer. So she knows how to work a guy, also complained about dead beat daddies-LOL I didn't feel a connection, but she did want to get together but is too expensive and transaction like for me. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I heard that she over priced before. Thanks for the heads up.

[QUOTE=JaJunk;6484901]From what I've read previously about her, I hope you wrapped it. I can't speak personally, but there's a thread in here somewhere about it. I was pursuing her for awhile but gave up even before that due to her craziness.[/QUOTE]I met up with her and her gf Savannah B about a year ago. Extremely heavy monkey presence, like street walker looks at that time. They were on LC at the time. I turned and walked away they looked so bad.

[QUOTE=Eagle7415;6485681][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4c9583a4-34a3-4e88-80f8-bf7f334bfe02?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]

M & G, she is more attractive in person then her pics and about 5'10". She is very open minded about everything, a lot of adult experience including currently an exotic dancer. So she knows how to work a guy, also complained about dead beat daddies-LOL I didn't feel a connection, but she did want to get together but is too expensive and transaction like for me. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I met up with Jane-Alice. She wanted 500 and up. I asked if she had a half hour rate and she agreed to 300. The best part is the time did not start until we were done with conversation. Only bed time counted. I found her a bit mechanical and I really did not enjoy my time. Everything covered. She is quite attractive. YMMV.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;6485871]What store did you find this Blackhawk card? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Recall I am in California. I read this thread because it is one of the common national posting sites for sugar.

I went to a grocery chain called Gelson's. I have read in other people's posts that you can also get these cards at one of the home improvement chains (HD or Lowe's, don't recall which), and some other grocery chains we don't have in CA.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;6485869]I tried Secure Spend Visa card and it did not work for me. Also the Secure Spend Visa card has no option to enter any personal / sugar information such as name or address. Only showing the card balance and select the personal pins.[/QUOTE]OK, so sometimes those SecureSpend take a little bit of "doing. " So a few thoughts, from my experience, that perhaps you could try?

I have often seen a warning with the prepaid cards that you have to wait 24-hrs to be able to use them. That said, I have often been able to use them right away when buying SA subscription. I usually wait until I can check the balance before trying to use the card.

Also, others have reported that they had to call SA to have them manually enter the PrePaid card and complete the transaction. If one calls from a burner phone or app they should stay protected, anonymous.

Now something you wrote has me scratching my head. Perhaps I'm too literal and all, but you are unhappy with the SecureSpend card because you can't enter any personal / sugar information? Huh? Isn't the point of an anonymous form of payment, that your identity is totally hidden or anonymous? So NOT having to enter such info would be ideal, no? Or am I missing something?

I have found that often, doing something new leads me to failure. So I have to try, try again to get things to work. If I quit each time I initially got "no' for an answer, or something didn't work for me like it worked for others, I wouldn't be in a position to hobby.

Hope things work out for you! Good luck!

The second they ask for any upfront $$ - I tell them I do not use or have ANY cash apps on my simple phone (voice and txt only) . And only use cash face to face.

This gets rid of all scammers right away -- occasionally I do get a real girl trying it on and she will meet -- but most evaporate!

[QUOTE=TopGun9;6477419]Posted this in my home SA forum, but wanted to repost here to get your inputs / feedbacks.

Another time waster!

Started out with good communications, agreed to ppm terms pretty quickly, easy to setup FC date, send nice pics leading up to the FC date.

Then boom, the morning of FC date she hit you with the 'my phone got shut down' and she doesn't feel comfortable going to meet you with her phone off. How convenient that it get shuts off on this EXACT day, but she's still able to text you with her phone off. LMFAO.

Of course you know what's next, she ask if you can help her pay her phone to get it back on so she can go ahead and meet at the FC later. Well, if you were thinking with the small head, you might go ahead and cashapp her the money for her phone and look like an f* moron afterward.

These scams are getting more complex and time consuming to identify. There's really no great ways to weed out these scammers until the very end; but then hours and days have been wasted talking to them and setting up FC date, etc.

If you have better ways to weed these f*kers out, I love to hear them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6486120]OK, so sometimes those SecureSpend take a little bit of "doing. " So a few thoughts, from my experience, that perhaps you could try?

I have often seen a warning with the prepaid cards that you have to wait 24-hrs to be able to use them. That said, I have often been able to use them right away when buying SA subscription. I usually wait until I can check the balance before trying to use the card.

Also, others have reported that they had to call SA to have them manually enter the PrePaid card and complete the transaction. If one calls from a burner phone or app they should stay protected, anonymous.

Now something you wrote has me scratching my head. Perhaps I'm too literal and all, but you are unhappy with the SecureSpend card because you can't enter any personal / sugar information? Huh? Isn't the point of an anonymous form of payment, that your identity is totally hidden or anonymous? So NOT having to enter such info would be ideal, no? Or am I missing something?

I have found that often, doing something new leads me to failure. So I have to try, try again to get things to work. If I quit each time I initially got "no' for an answer, or something didn't work for me like it worked for others, I wouldn't be in a position to hobby.

Hope things work out for you! Good luck![/QUOTE]Sorry for confusing. The OP reported he was entering the address and phone number for the prepaid card registration that why I said there was no such options. Off course I have never registered my real name and address.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6486018]Recall I am in California. I read this thread because it is one of the common national posting sites for sugar.

I went to a grocery chain called Gelson's. I have read in other people's posts that you can also get these cards at one of the home improvement chains (HD or Lowe's, don't recall which), and some other grocery chains we don't have in CA.[/QUOTE]It is a funny looking card BTW. I think I posted a photo of one earlier. Though perhaps in the packaging. Most prepaids look like regular credit cards once opened. These, they look cheap. Like they were stamped out of one big sheet of cheap plastic. Once you've seen one you'll never forget it.

You need to look closely at the packaging to find out it is issued by Blackhawk. I would also recommend searching this site for 'Blackhawk' and find all relevant posts.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6430267]I posted about this in a preliminary way, search for that.

I found cards that are issued by Blackhawk. I include a picture of the exact card I used. When I bought it the cashier tore open a window on the back. Once I opened the packaging and saw the card, I recognized it from one I had long ago that worked.

I did go to the card website and put in a bunch of fake sugar info for the address, etc, and also put in a PIN.

I went to seeking and tried to pay with it. I got the usual message that they don't have a great success rate w / prepaid debit cards and they hope that I will use a major credit card. I went ahead anyway. I also used the discount code I posted about recently. The site was grinding away for a while, but ultimately, my membership renewal went through. With the discount. I gave up no personal information to do so.[/QUOTE]I had been using Secure Spend for quite some time but started having problems getting it to go through. I had read on here about the Blackhawk card. I found one at Lowe's that had Five Back Gift Card but it was distributed by Blackhawk. I entered all the fictitious info, name, address, etc. I waited 24 hrs to try it on SA and it was approved without problem thanks to the info on this site!!

Traveling through and staying in Richmond this week. You all have one of the best forums!

Anyone met Faith333? Was quick to send me digits which makes me wonder.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/42a88ccf-bdd9-48c2-b3d6-02517ec3a046[/URL]

Any other fun recommendations?

Sincerely appreciated!

A few years ago, I used a One Vanilla and put in fake name and address and it went thru. My question is will it go thru now with Blackhawk using a different fake name and address as I do not remember what I used a few years ago. Or did you have to open up a new account with SA?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6430267]I posted about this in a preliminary way, search for that.

I found cards that are issued by Blackhawk. I include a picture of the exact card I used. When I bought it the cashier tore open a window on the back. Once I opened the packaging and saw the card, I recognized it from one I had long ago that worked.

I did go to the card website and put in a bunch of fake sugar info for the address, etc, and also put in a PIN.

I went to seeking and tried to pay with it. I got the usual message that they don't have a great success rate w / prepaid debit cards and they hope that I will use a major credit card. I went ahead anyway. I also used the discount code I posted about recently. The site was grinding away for a while, but ultimately, my membership renewal went through. With the discount. I gave up no personal information to do so.[/QUOTE]

I used a One Vanilla years ago with a fake name and address. If I use a Blackhawk with a fake name and address, do I need to set up a new SA account? I forgot what I used back when they took One Vanilla.

[QUOTE=DrSugarD;6487554]I had been using Secure Spend for quite some time but started having problems getting it to go through. I had read on here about the Blackhawk card. I found one at Lowe's that had Five Back Gift Card but it was distributed by Blackhawk. I entered all the fictitious info, name, address, etc. I waited 24 hrs to try it on SA and it was approved without problem thanks to the info on this site!![/QUOTE]

So I don't have a membership and I hear there is a lot of issues using gift cards. So what I do is just let some girls view my private pics. I've sent these two my pic and they replied. I can't read it so I am wondering if it is worth it.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/38ec246b-351a-41aa-a161-b4a06988d321[/URL] - this one I haven't heard too much about I think I read something about her being thick. Would love to know if anyone has seen her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ea46412-5ef6-416b-b22e-246a26e5e0a2[/URL] - this one I know one of you guys have seen a few times but I hear that she laughs when offered 300 which honestly I am not sure she is worth that much. I get a feeling she is high volume and potentially semi pro.

Let me know what you guys think. Is it worth getting a membership? It's been a while since I got back on this site.

What is the deal with this one? She has been reviewed here before but it was under a different username I cannot recall.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/22c15d74-2412-4058-8005-6c4bbc5e1917[/URL]

[QUOTE=TennisStud90;6490861]What is the deal with this one? She has been reviewed here before but it was under a different username I cannot recall.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/22c15d74-2412-4058-8005-6c4bbc5e1917[/URL][/QUOTE]The good. The price is right and she hosts at her apartment in the The Fan area. At least she was when I met her last Fall. Petite spinner type body.

The bad. A little flighty and will talk your ear off, even during the deed. Was texting during our one encounter LOL. Once she has your number she'll blow up your phone wanting to meet constantly.

[QUOTE=TennisStud90;6490861]What is the deal with this one? She has been reviewed here before but it was under a different username I cannot recall.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/22c15d74-2412-4058-8005-6c4bbc5e1917[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw her a while back once. One of the worst encounters I've ever had. Almost certain she was on some sort of drug, slurring her words a bit etc. As someone else said, she talked like non-stop, and I mean NON-stop. Performance was pretty lackluster but got the job done. Won't be back. I wouldn't bother personally.

[QUOTE=LoriTruck;6438534]A quick question to the frequent flyers. Do I leave the sugaring phone at home? Or risk it all and take it on a trip with the SO? We are planning on traveling for 2 weeks and I can't remember for the life of me if phones have to be taken out of any carry on bags and placed in the trays when going through the security check point at the airport. In the past I only had 1 phone and used a texting app. Things are different now so I'm just wondering if it's best to leave it at home or check a bag and have the phone in that luggage.[/QUOTE]Don't have a second phone. Use google voice in a private browser and always close it when you're done using it. Zero chance of being caught. Even your burner in the bottom of a golf bag can be found.

Any one have info on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8eebf5ac-f976-4be7-aedb-81be3df172cd[/URL]

[QUOTE=CarpenterP2017;6492168]Don't have a second phone. Use google voice in a private browser and always close it when you're done using it. Zero chance of being caught. Even your burner in the bottom of a golf bag can be found.[/QUOTE]No doubt, if we all behave perfectly, that works. People can't always remember everything though. And, I personally have fallen asleep at my screen, if someone came up while that app was open, Katy bar the door.

I have also heard examples of guys using GV on their IRL cell phones, and somehow having cross-over to their sugar life. Divulging their real cell phone # to the SB. Obviously, this is *completely* unacceptable.

I want to be in a position to hand my phone or laptop to my SO at any time and invite her to peruse it. I do use a private browser on my computer to access GV when I am at home. And through a VPN.

Is this only me or does anyone has this issue. No matter whatever profile I try to open or click it says profile not found.

Any advise.

This girl has an enormous buttaface GPS problem. Says she already has one SD who gives her $1300 per visit. But he doesn't fuck her enough so she's looking for another. As much as I know this is bullshit I didn't even reply.

[QUOTE=Tidad;6497129]This girl has an enormous buttaface GPS problem. Says she already has one SD who gives her $1300 per visit. But he doesn't fuck her enough so she's looking for another. As much as I know this is bullshit I didn't even reply.[/QUOTE]You might be surprised by how much some of the mongers her spend, if they have nothing but cash, and just want to hook up or "buy" the girl, it can happen. I knew one guy paying a SB 3 x-4 x her regular rate.

[QUOTE=JohnySlayer56;6497135]You might be surprised by how much some of the mongers her spend, if they have nothing but cash, and just want to hook up or "buy" the girl, it can happen. I knew one guy paying a SB 3 x-4 x her regular rate.[/QUOTE]I have my one utr SB that I spend pretty substantial (for me) money on. But she's 20 years old w a beautiful face to go w the flawless body and I fuck her 3 nights a week for much less than that.

[QUOTE=Tidad;6497129]This girl has an enormous buttaface GPS problem. Says she already has one SD who gives her $1300 per visit. But he doesn't fuck her enough so she's looking for another. As much as I know this is bullshit I didn't even reply.[/QUOTE][U]In general comment[/U]

[I]I recognize the buttaface might have been the primary turn off[/I]

Eh, if youse gotts a few minutes try a reply, you never know! I had one who told me at the M&G she got 1300 for an overnight with a dude and she wanted 500-700 PPM as that is what she got from her last SD. I told her, "You better track that dude down again!" In the end this smoking hot, petite, spinner, blonde, headed off to the FC with me on the promise of 200. I ended up extending her to two pops for 300.

So I dunno, maybe the Monger Gods smiled on me that day? Maybe it was the approach as it sure wasn't my good looks!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6498283][U]In general comment[/U]

[I]I recognize the buttaface might have been the primary turn off[/I]

Eh, if youse gotts a few minutes try a reply, you never know! I had one who told me at the M&G she got 1300 for an overnight with a dude and she wanted 500-700 PPM as that is what she got from her last SD. I told her, "You better track that dude down again!" In the end this smoking hot, petite, spinner, blonde, headed off to the FC with me on the promise of 200. I ended up extending her to two pops for 300.

So I dunno, maybe the Monger Gods smiled on me that day? Maybe it was the approach as it sure wasn't my good looks![/QUOTE]You are absolutely right, making a counter offer only takes a moment and costs nothing. But frankly my utr SB is taking almost every bit of dick I can muster so I was only half interested anyway.

While we are on that subject, let me send this out to the masses who have been hitting me up: I cannot think of any reason why I would want to help my utr fuck other dudes. I'm sure she's getting a couple other cocks besides mine but I won't be helping. I'll be banging her until I die, she says "no" or she prices me out. If you are looking, stop bugging me and find one of your own the same way I found her: send a TON of well written messages, don't be a jerk and be willing to pay.

Haven't pulled the trigger on a premium membership yet but this one caught my eye. Anyone have any experience with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/09f64dfe-80b7-44cb-a46e-696a0b0ffd45[/URL]

Thanks.

RR.

[QUOTE=RomanRich;6499612]Haven't pulled the trigger on a premium membership yet but this one caught my eye. Anyone have any experience with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/09f64dfe-80b7-44cb-a46e-696a0b0ffd45[/URL]

Thanks.

RR.[/QUOTE]She's much bigger in person, avg damage for a dream you need to have a spot. Meh.

[QUOTE=Tidad;6499316]
While we are on that subject, let me send this out to the masses who have been hitting me up: I cannot think of any reason why I would want to help my utr fuck other dudes. I'm sure she's getting a couple other cocks besides mine but I won't be helping. I'll be banging her until I die, she says "no" or she prices me out. If you are looking, stop bugging me and find one of your own the same way I found her: send a TON of well written messages, don't be a jerk and be willing to pay.[/QUOTE]Just wanted to highlight this statement and give it props!

Too many lurkers here, and only a few manning the oars, finding the gem pussy. If you aren't sure "how to" find a girl like Tidad, just ask here as many dudes love to share their knowledge and experience.

If you go through life getting a fish every time you ask, you'll be come a beggar. If you learn to fish, you'll eat everyday!

[QUOTE=RomanRich;6499612]Haven't pulled the trigger on a premium membership yet but this one caught my eye. Anyone have any experience with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/09f64dfe-80b7-44cb-a46e-696a0b0ffd45[/URL]

Thanks.

RR.[/QUOTE]Got off of the site and texted through Kik. Asking for $4 and won't budge off of it, and can't host. Too much for me for a big girl. She's active in the swinger forums on Reddit if you want to checkout her pics. Replace the underscore and digits of her SA username and replace with 4448.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;6500034]Got off of the site and texted through Kik. Asking for $4 and won't budge off of it, and can't host. Too much for me for a big girl. She's active in the swinger forums on Reddit if you want to checkout her pics. Replace the underscore and digits of her SA username and replace with 4448.[/QUOTE]Why do an arrangement when you can just pick her up via a swingers bar.

Totally agree with Shampoo and Tidad. There's plenty of info on this site. Do the work to find it.

A hint. Search a contributor named "Zcochran00" - he compiled an index a while back on the Richmond SB Board. A lot still applies.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6500008]Just wanted to highlight this statement and give it props!

Too many lurkers here, and only a few manning the oars, finding the gem pussy. If you aren't sure "how to" find a girl like Tidad, just ask here as many dudes love to share their knowledge and experience.

If you go through life getting a fish every time you ask, you'll be come a beggar. If you learn to fish, you'll eat everyday![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6501694]Totally agree with Shampoo and Tidad. There's plenty of info on this site. Do the work to find it.

A hint. Search a contributor named "Zcochran00" - he compiled an index a while back on the Richmond SB Board. A lot still applies.[/QUOTE]No, there is a separate thread here, called the "Archive" of all of the pertinent sugar posts. It was put together by JZLizard, he used to be the king of the Richmond thread. Dropped off some time ago.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6502297]No, there is a separate thread here, called the "Archive" of all of the pertinent sugar posts. It was put together by JZLizard, he used to be the king of the Richmond thread. Dropped off some time ago.[/QUOTE]Apologies, it is.

Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ.

Thanks FFA. The point is, it's there if you look.

Any idea whatever happened to the OG? JZLIzard, Revvo, Hernando. . .

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6503220]Apologies, it is.

Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone been in a room with this one? My schedule is usually pretty full but my utr is out of town for 3 weeks and a short term sub is in order. She is talking a good game and her pics REALLY sell the experience. No mention of $$ yet.