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[QUOTE=NotMe00;3448001]I think I read the Tiger lineup is Yumi, Lisa, and Sofie. No idea if that is still accurate.
I'm coming up on my first Warren visit. Final questions: I have the impression that the Tigers are older but also nicer than the people of the sun. Is that impression accurate? How much of an age gap and how much of a niceness gap? And finally, is there any one standout I should request? I read enough to guess that I'd love Cherry, but it looks like she's on vacation. TIA and if you ever have DC area questions feel free to pm me.[/QUOTE]As of yesterday at Tiger was candy Sofie and Lisa. I prefer lisa over all.
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[QUOTE=Hungryeye;3449038]All of our comments and post are subjective, go to both and within each establishment you find variation, what I like you may not and vice versa. Get it wet with a couple of them and let us know what you think.[/QUOTE]Well said Frank 69.
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[QUOTE=StefanXl;3449728]As of yesterday at Tiger was candy Sofie and Lisa. I prefer lisa over all.[/QUOTE]Cherry or nothing sorry.
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Cherry
[QUOTE=RickMann;3451417]Cherry or nothing sorry.[/QUOTE]I had the same opinion once it was cherry. I tried Lisa. At least for me she's a close second. You my not agree and that's alright.
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No problems
[QUOTE=RickMann;3451417]Cherry or nothing sorry.[/QUOTE]Less of a line for me.
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Vicky at Sun
Had Vicky for the first time today.
All I can say is holy shit those nipples. How has this not been mentioned yet? Giant puff balls hanging off the front of already perfect tits? You want to bite them off and put them with spaghetti.
Combine that with great service and she's my new favorite. The rest can sit in the corner. Only one that holds a flame is maybe Connie when she returns.
Full review already up at a certain AMP review site.
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Vicky
[QUOTE=Ddave1939;3452224]Had Vicky for the first time today.
All I can say is holy shit those nipples. How has this not been mentioned yet? Giant puff balls hanging off the front of already perfect tits? You want to bite them off and put them with spaghetti.
Combine that with great service and she's my new favorite. The rest can sit in the corner. Only one that holds a flame is maybe Connie when she returns.
Full review already up at a certain AMP review site.[/QUOTE]Hey does vicky do BBBJ? And what's her height and weight approximately?
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[QUOTE=Mith4321;3452983]Hey does vicky do BBBJ? And what's her height and weight approximately?[/QUOTE]5'5" maybe though I have no idea. Don't really pay attention to it. She does seem tall for her ethnicity, though. 120-130 lbs? She's thin with a bubble butt and nice tits. The tiniest of pooch bellies from a kid probably, thought we were both talking about our respective beer bellies. I mean, it really is nonexistent, though. She's the cutest girl there, afaic.
No idea if she does BBBJ, she started on me with what I thought was bare, but I found a condom on my cock a few minutes later and have no idea when she put it on. Maybe repeats or the right tip will earn BBBJ.
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Vicky not My ATF.
[QUOTE=Ddave1939;3452224]Had Vicky for the first time today.
All I can say is holy shit those nipples. How has this not been mentioned yet? Giant puff balls hanging off the front of already perfect tits? You want to bite them off and put them with spaghetti.
Combine that with great service and she's my new favorite. The rest can sit in the corner. Only one that holds a flame is maybe Connie when she returns.
Full review already up at a certain AMP review site.[/QUOTE]Well with the great revue on Vicky I had to go see her today. Called in advance like I always do to request her. I got there and Mamasan told me about a 5 min wait. I figured that was OK. She came back in a min later and asked if a wanted her to do the shower and I politely told her I would wait for Vicky. About 10 minutes later she came in and said sorry you had to wait, which I thought was nice. She is a nice looking girl like has been said, great body and what looked like a great ass and rack. So we head of to for the shower as she is holding my hand like most all of them do. Standard shower cleaning with nothing special to mention. She dries me of and into the sauna for a couple minutes then back to the room. She gives my the massage which was ok. She does a lot for pushing down and your body not that much actual massaging. It was ok though have had a lot better but some worse. I figured if the next step was great it wouldn't matter anyway, So She tells me to flip over and asked what I wanted. I told her the works with a smile. Now she does seem to know English better than most and wanted to be paid before hand which is always a little bit of a turn off for me. So I hand her my customary $ and she said no Its $.2 and I said $ is all I have So she said next time bring the $,2 . Now this really pisses me off and I thought well there isn't going to be a next time for me. I have seen a lot of the talent at both spas in Warren and most don't ask how much I plan to give them and I hand it to them at the end. I have never had them say " Oh that's not enough" anyway back to the details. So she leaves. Yet another ding on her in my opinion. She gets back and undresses and we start. She gives a really good BJ but is covered. The other review wasn't sure but it is, She's just really good about putting the condom on with her mouth. She goes at it for a while and then gets up to go cowgirl on me and I say wait I want to dine on you for a while too. I get a no signal and I think what kind of girl doesn't like that? Anyway just another big disappointment for that. OK so we do the CG for a while and she never really bends forward for me to take part on the great nips she does have, So she lays down for Mish and I hope for at least some kissing. Nope that's not on the menu either. By this time it's even getting hard for me to stay hard and so I say let's try doggy. She says "boy are you strong" which in their language means " you're taking too long to blow" So she stops and lays me down removes the cover and try's to get me off with a BJ. Well she almost gets the job down but I just won't go, She then gives up because I think her arm is about to fall off. LOL She wipes me off and half asses dresses me and says thank you and leaves for the next guy. Now I have NEVER had that happen and thought to myself what a bunch of shit that is, Anyway The Mamasan comes in and helps me put my shoes on at least. LOL She asked how Vicky was and I told her ok, But I think she could tell I was disappointed with the service. Well that's my adventure with Vicky. She is a decent provider I guess but not in the way I like. I'm really into the GFE experience and the other things she wouldn't do so as always YMMV but this guy is going back to Tiger and Sophia. Now she's MY ATF.
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[QUOTE=Kiser;3454235]... So she leaves. Yet another ding on her in my opinion....[/QUOTE]Your experience aside, I'm still planning on trying Vicky, and hopefully my mileage will be better. However I did want to toss in one thought: In my experience, MOST of the girls at both Tiger and Sun will ask for the money up front if you are new to them. Don't take it personally.
I'm a regular at both places, and if it's my first time with a particular girl, I often get asked what I want and how much I'm offering. I always say "everything" and offer $120, with a promise of extra if we have a nice time (e.g. If they are willing to give me lots of kissing). This makes them happy, but they still leave with the money and return a few minutes later. If I repeat with that specific girl, and she remembers me (and I always make sure they will), then they usually wait until the end for their tip on return visits.
Just my 2 cents worth. But of course, Kiser, it sounds like you too are a regular, so I'm probably not telling you anything you don't already know. But as often as I've experienced that whole pay-me-up-front-I'll-be-back routine, I'm surprised that this would be the first time you've had it happen to you.
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[QUOTE=Kiser;3454235] She says "boy are you strong" which in their language means " you're taking too long to blow" So she stops and lays me down removes the cover and try's to get me off with a BJ. Well she almost gets the job down but I just won't go, She then gives up because I think her arm is about to fall off. LOL She wipes me off and half asses dresses me and says thank you and leaves for the next guy. Now I have NEVER had that happen [/QUOTE]Wait, so you didn't even get to finish? I doubt my review to mamasan would have been that "she's OK."
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[QUOTE=Torchkit;3454599]Wait, so you didn't even get to finish? I doubt my review to mamasan would have been that "she's OK."[/QUOTE]What would your reply have been? She tried really hard but didn't make me cum? I just don't want to make waves for a place I frequent a lot and piss people off. Not worth loosing the good rapport I have there.
Also about the other comment from MisterJao this wasn't the first time that happened to me but it pisses me off anyway. For me MOST of the time they don't ask for the donation up front or how mush I'll be giving them. I think its be that I am a long time regular and I always call in advance to reserve a certain girl so I don't have to wait an hour to get her. I think at both places they know my voice or have caller I D and let the girl, if she's new that I am a regular and a good client. As for spending an extra 20 to get her to kiss me isn't going to happen all that does is make it more expensive for the rest of us who have been paying $ for full service all along. When I read all the good reviews about Connie all she did was ask me what I wanted and that was it. Off to the races we went and it included a lot of kissing and the same thing with Sophie at Tiger She kissed me a ton and does the full service even before my massage and it was that way from the first visit and only $ that they were both very happy to get. Anyway I hope you have a good visit with Vicky and let us know how it goes.
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[QUOTE=Kiser;3454639]... Also about the other comment from MisterJao this wasn't the first time that happened to me but it pisses me off anyway....[/QUOTE]
I get what you're saying. I didn't say I like when they ask for money up front, but I certainly understand it. After all, do YOU do work without knowing up front what kind of pay you'll receive? If you see any of the non-spa providers in this business (say from Back Page), many will ask for money up front too. So I might not like it, but to get pissed off? Easier to just go with the flow, and not let it ruin my mood or the experience.
Keep in mind that the house mother might have indeed told the girl that you're a good customer. But that could simply mean you're a regular, that you're a friendly guy, that she should treat you well, etc. But it probably doesn't give the girl any indication at all how much she could expect to receive from you. Every time you walk in the door, they don't go running to the cash ledger to see what you paid last time. And just because you give one girl XX amount does not automatically mean the next girl will get the same amount.
As for my promise of an extra $20 if they like kissing, at Tiger all the girls are into kissing, but at Sun not all the girls do. So I don't look at it as making it more expensive for everyone else. Rather, I look at it the same way as tipping at a restaurant. If the service is exceptional, it does not raise the price of the meal for everyone else, but simply ensures that when I return, I will be remembered not by the house mother, but by the girl herself, and she will be more likely to continue providing top-notch service.
In any case, will report back on Vicky when I can. Hope you have a good 4th.
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[QUOTE=Kiser;3454639]What would your reply have been? [/QUOTE]A very simple "Not good."
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[QUOTE=MisterJao;3454923]I get what you're saying. I didn't say I like when they ask for money up front, but I certainly understand it. After all, do YOU do work without knowing up front what kind of pay you'll receive? If you see any of the non-spa providers in this business (say from Back Page), many will ask for money up front too. So I might not like it, but to get pissed off? Easier to just go with the flow, and not let it ruin my mood or the experience.
Keep in mind that the house mother might have indeed told the girl that you're a good customer. But that could simply mean you're a regular, that you're a friendly guy, that she should treat you well, etc. But it probably doesn't give the girl any indication at all how much she could expect to receive from you. Every time you walk in the door, they don't go running to the cash ledger to see what you paid last time. And just because you give one girl XX amount does not automatically mean the next girl will get the same amount.
As for my promise of an extra $20 if they like kissing, at Tiger all the girls are into kissing, but at Sun not all the girls do. So I don't look at it as making it more expensive for everyone else. Rather, I look at it the same way as tipping at a restaurant. If the service is exceptional, it does not raise the price of the meal for everyone else, but simply ensures that when I return, I will be remembered not by the house mother, but by the girl herself, and she will be more likely to continue providing top-notch service.
In any case, will report back on Vicky when I can. Hope you have a good 4th.[/QUOTE]OK, Well its a new day and I've cooled down a bit. LOL All your points are well taken and understood. Thanks. You have a good 4th too.