Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=AMP Fme; 1445491]Report is appreciated. You have a plan that works for you and seems to make you happy, so no way do I criticize anyone in that respect. It does strike me that if your approach is shared and practiced by many, this could explain the change in our AMP scene. If girls can keep getting guys to come back with a tease of something in the future, why would they risk the repeat business by actually following through with the tease?

Swear I am not taking issue with your post, but am curious what others think. At what point does priming a pump that does not produce become fruitless? And at what point do we stop trying and either move on or resign ourselves to accept the massage for what it is, versus what it is not? My approach works for me, but can't say I have ever stopped and truly considered how other's approach might impact mine.[/QUOTE]I meant to add for someone to enjoy my methods you have to concede that there is value in a legit massage and any extras are gravy. I am sure I would get a couple of massages a week if I had never had any extras. For many the extras are the primary driver and the massage is gravy.

Curious about Q Massage. Been there before did not get the sense that any extra was offered at all. I've seen some posts of people saying that it is an they received HE. Who did you see and was there only one person working at the time? When I went there was another lady sitting on the couch on a laptop. That could be why no hint at extra was offered.

[QUOTE=Wynnluvr;1443583]But back to the question, any Korean bars or room salons (where you pay for overpriced liquor while girls pretend to like you)?[/QUOTE]There is a lot. Across from Barnacles and Purple rain is one.

Another is across from Toyota dealership. There's probably 10 more.

Did you go to the one on Cobb parkway at 285 or the one at Barrett parkway and 41?

The one at 285 does not seem to provide extras. If you went to Barrett parkway and didn't get a HE then that is unusual.

[QUOTE=WilFos;1445611]Curious about Q Massage. Been there before did not get the sense that any extra was offered at all. I've seen some posts of people saying that it is an they received HE. Who did you see and was there only one person working at the time? When I went there was another lady sitting on the couch on a laptop. That could be why no hint at extra was offered.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Itsart;1445604]I meant to add for someone to enjoy my methods you have to concede that there is value in a legit massage and any extras are gravy. I am sure I would get a couple of massages a week if I had never had any extras. For many the extras are the primary driver and the massage is gravy.[/QUOTE]I agree with the value of a legit masage (the Holy Grail of course is a hottie with excellent technique, and who will hand out extras for you). And I've also had limited success with "legit only" girls. But over a year with Missy? Dude. My guess is Hong will be a dead end as well. Not trying to bust your chops, but you obviously have more patience than me. Using your earlier bar analogy, if there's no progress by the 3rd or especially the 4th visit, I cut my losses and move on. Plenty of girls out there (and you're right, not just in the AMP's).

For me the massage is the primary driver. If I get extras then I am happy right away. If I don't get extras then my wife and I are both happy when I get home.

[QUOTE=Itsart;1445604]I meant to add for someone to enjoy my methods you have to concede that there is value in a legit massage and any extras are gravy. I am sure I would get a couple of massages a week if I had never had any extras. For many the extras are the primary driver and the massage is gravy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cocknballs;1445733]I agree with the value of a legit masage (the Holy Grail of course is a hottie with excellent technique, and who will hand out extras for you). And I've also had limited success with "legit only" girls. But over a year with Missy? Dude. My guess is Hong will be a dead end as well. Not trying to bust your chops, but you obviously have more patience than me. Using your earlier bar analogy, if there's no progress by the 3rd or especially the 4th visit, I cut my losses and move on. Plenty of girls out there (and you're right, not just in the AMP's).[/QUOTE]You are right I am probably way to patient and and stupid about how I go about all this. Believe me I know there are easier and cheaper ways to score with very hot Asian girls. I have never seen anyone as long as I did Missy without success and was always hopeful it was right around the corner. If I did not think the massage and time without any extras were worth the money obviously I would have moved on long ago. When you mention no chance at a place like Hong I would agree unless you get them out of the shop. Many of these girls are asked out on a daily bases and turn most of us down initially. But they often have very lonley lives. It's the patience that pays off, take them to dinner after 10pm a couple of times and things start to get more interesting.

[QUOTE=Rod8432; 1445513]I agree with the premise of your comment, and would say it applies to nearly every free-market situation I can think of where those wishing to pay lower prices feel frustrated by those willing to pay more to get less. Certainly that's working in this case, and yes, if I were an AMP provider and thought I could make decent money by stringing guys along with a tease, I'd do it. Why put out more than I have to?

As to whether it's good or bad, I think it's really neutral or perhaps not relevant, because trying to cajole or urge consumers not to exercise their perception of value never works. We, as a freely purchasing and non-organized consumer group, are like water in a vessel. The price / service equation will find its natural level. There will always be those for whom the lesser value offering (ie, the tease) is worth it (our friend Itsart) and those for whom it's a complete waste of time and money.

But that goes for every other item of value. Every time someone pays an exorbitant price for a sports or music ticket, it makes it just that much harder for me to see the same event for what I consider to be fair and reasonable price. Want to ding those people across the noggin for spending so much, because in my mind, it sends the wrong message. But then, so it goes with everything, hotel rooms at crowded venues, flowers during Valentine's day, airfares over Thanksgiving, ad nauseum.

In the end though, I realize I also enjoy the fruits of this free market situation. The comparatively lower prices I can score if I'm willing to not go with the herd. Therefore, I travel on "shoulder" months, eat out on Wednesday nights, and fly overseas for legal sex options that most guys won't do. It's a matter of perspective. While I acknowledge the pressure on prices that Itsart's action cause for the rest of us, I can't say he's wrong for deciding the value proposition is appropriate for him. No more than I'd want him doing that to me for spending more than he would on some items I find more valuable than he.[/QUOTE]I'm not quite the cerebral economist as you. But for the record, it is not now, nor ever has been, my intention to "cajole or urge" mongers not to proceed in any manner other than which they are comfortable. I do not appreciate the implication you are implying that I said. I agree and have posted many times here, it is each person's money and their decision on how they choose to spend their money. But thank you for the lecture in economics. And when you start visiting AMPs here then I will be interested in your approach as well.

[QUOTE=Itsart;1445604]I meant to add for someone to enjoy my methods you have to concede that there is value in a legit massage and any extras are gravy. I am sure I would get a couple of massages a week if I had never had any extras. For many the extras are the primary driver and the massage is gravy.[/QUOTE]I know that you don't know me and I have no idea how long you have lurked, but I sense there may be a misunderstanding here. I get regular legit massages. I try for weekly massages, but sometimes I miss a week. But, where we differ is that I don't try or care about the extras when I am going for the legit. If it happens, it does so with little or no urging from me. Your approach seems to be geared towards long term goal of FS whilst getting legit massages over an extended period of time. I separate the two.

Also, you said you
"find great enjoyment in finally getting the "I never do that" girl to want me as much as I want her. This has led to knowing several girls that I enjoyed long term full service relationships with at no cost beyond the 20 dollar tip normally paid for a legit massage."

Addtionally. you also said you were not interested in getting extras from a girl that offer them for $50 (usually $40 BTW.) As for this being better for your heath and marriage. Nope, I'll buy and appreciate the former, but that latter dog doesn't hunt. I have just never known heard of anyone investing that much energy in picking up ladies for an encounter in an AMP. It just surprises me.

But you did sum up nicely one of the things I was trying to ultimately understand. "for many the extras are the primary driver and the massage is gravy." To rephrase, I am curious if others that participate in AMPs here share that feeling or if they separate out the legit massage vs an experience that includes massage with extras. On this forum I always assumed it was the latter, but maybe I am wrong?

I will get off this because I think ultimately I am either going to piss people off or get pissed off. Shame too, because it strikes me as a topic worth discussing.

[QUOTE=Matt Reynolds;1445571]I am similar to you in that a big part of the fun of the experience is the chase and not being sure what is available. Leads to a lot of frustration at times but also a hell of a lot of fun at others. Anyhow, how would you say Amy rates in the looks department?[/QUOTE]Nobody will be seeing Amy because she is a beautiful. Very tall and slender, maybe 40 years old but She is certainly not ugly.

[QUOTE=AMP Fme; 1445791]I know that you don't know me and I have no idea how long you have lurked, but I sense there may be a misunderstanding here. I get regular legit massages. I try for weekly massages, but sometimes I miss a week. But, where we differ is that I don't try or care about the extras when I am going for the legit. If it happens, it does so with little or no urging from me. Your approach seems to be geared towards long term goal of FS whilst getting legit massages over an extended period of time. I separate the two.

Also, you said you.

"find great enjoyment in finally getting the "I never do that" girl to want me as much as I want her. This has led to knowing several girls that I enjoyed long term full service relationships with at no cost beyond the 20 dollar tip normally paid for a legit massage."

Addtionally. You also said you were not interested in getting extras from a girl that offer them for $50 (usually $40 BTW.) As for this being better for your heath and marriage. Nope, I'll buy and appreciate the former, but that latter dog doesn't hunt. I have just never known heard of anyone investing that much energy in picking up ladies for an encounter in an AMP. It just surprises me.

But you did sum up nicely one of the things I was trying to ultimately understand."for many the extras are the primary driver and the massage is gravy." To rephrase, I am curious if others that participate in AMPs here share that feeling or if they separate out the legit massage vs an experience that includes massage with extras. On this forum I always assumed it was the latter, but maybe I am wrong?

I will get off this because I think ultimately I am either going to piss people off or get pissed off. Shame too, because it strikes me as a topic worth discussing.[/QUOTE]You may have explained my goals better than I did. My goal is to turn a legit massage into much more at no additional cost over an extended period of time. It takes me a while to find someone I am interested in investing that sort of time on and then it takes even longer to get them to cooperate. I am absolutely sure that is not the purpose of this forum as I have been a long time lurker.

[QUOTE=Amp Fme;1445784]I'm not quite the cerebral economist as you. But for the record, it is not now, nor ever has been, my intention to "cajole or urge" mongers not to proceed in any manner other than which they are comfortable. I do not appreciate the implication you are implying that I said. I agree and have posted many times here, it is each person's money and their decision on how they choose to spend their money. But thank you for the lecture in economics. And when you start visiting AMPs here then I will be interested in your approach as well.[/QUOTE]Hey, no offense intended. You asked for what others think, and that's what your post made me think.

I've read many times on this board and others like it when fellow mongers DO scold others for spending too much, suggesting they're driving prices up for the rest of us. I'm not saying you did, and you were very careful to stay away from any implication you were. In any case, I'm always left with the impression of hey, to each his own. After reading Itsart's follow-on posts, it's clear he likes the chase. And for his circumstances, I guess it makes sense.

But I'm with you, at least I think I am. I don't find the chase to be of any value at all. I hate the wink and nod, the implications of service that never happens, and the stupid haggling. I've been there many times. If people are paying for that and thereby "rewarding" AMP providers for that behavior, I hate to see it happen from my personal viewpoint.

Regarding AMP visits, I've stopped going after Maia closed, preferring to stick with strip club VIPs. Maia was the best though, and I was spoiled. I have been thinking, however, of making a return trip to the re-branded Doshi ever since I've read a positive review or two on it. Once there, I suspect my approach is like most mongers here. I'll pay my $60 house fee and get my steam room, TS, and basic massage. Then I'll negotiate on the flip for whatever I feel like I want, and based on how frisky and cute the masseuse happens to be. I'll generally pay $40-$60 addnl for a nude HJ, $80 for nude BJ, and $120 for FS. From what I can tell, that's fairly middle-of-the-road.

When I go, I'll be sure to add to the reviews.

[QUOTE=Cocknballs;1445531]Thanks for the report Fengzi (BTW, wth does Fengzi mean?). Anyway, how often have you had hits at H? I always had misses there and haven't been in quite a while. And I don't recall any reports of hits there either, so let me know if I missed something. I'd love to hear extras are avail there as it's a good location for me.[/QUOTE]Fengzi is Chinese for "crazy." By hit or miss, I meant the quality of the therapeutic massage only. That's all I wanted at H-Massage. Sometimes it is not so good, sometimes ok. The one I got was just mediocre at best.

Chi Massage got busted tonight around 7:15 pm. Gwinnett's finest had an undercover inside, then later an officer in riot gear, a ski mask and dark glasses came storming in and rattled cages. Mongers had identification checked and then were released. At least one of the two masseuses was arrested. Guess we'll have to peruse Gwinnett mug shots for her face and name.

[QUOTE=Jimmia;1445342]Went to pileo today in s springs after seeing it mentioned here. What a let down."yuki" said she had been there 4 years, talked wayyyy to much during the massage, covered me on the flip and when I removed the towell at the end and said what about the little guy she said nope don't do that. Went to elite instead and scored a HE with what is becoming a sure thing. Yuki was very small,"be" looking bolt ons and she looked near 40 perhaps. Not a bad spinner look but looks didn't do much. She said they don't advertise because they get plenty of regulars. I am wondering who the hell the regulars are that go back again and again. Anyone ever get better service than this? Damage massage only was 60 bucks to house.[/QUOTE]Pileo stinks as you found out. A couple years ago, FS was the norm but I suspect LE raids have scared them. They do get an occasional new girl who will do FS but it's rare.