Hot Young Asian Girls

You said almost exactly the same thing I thought.

Grading is too much work for me who doesn't care about the grading. Even if I want to be fair on TER, I would feel like the other side (MILF lovers) is not playing fair. Some TER people are lazy and just look at scores and don't read details either. TER is especially useless to me cause they don't review new and hot young girls. Friend of NG who someone said was the hottest HYA he ever banged got like 0 review on TER. Yeah I banged her before anyone shared intel and certified her here too. I may not be the first to review but I will review.

I can just tell from a quick read of TER General Details which girl may worth a try, if they reviewed someone I was considering seeing. Don't even need VIP or look at rating.

Some people are very good with PLEASER descriptions. I am not but I try to describe looks.

It was fun discussing but I should get back to TOFTT.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7117818]I believe grades don't work...

We can't agree on the rating... And that's why we label girls HYA, MILF, GILF. We all have two eyes and tend to agree.

Even worse is TER... I used to read through thousands of TER reviews until I realized it didn't even help me choose a girl since I have particular tastes and the reviews rarely give any intel on that.

I'm not saying don't use grades, go ahead. It's just useless to me. Accurate factual descriptions are all that matter to a lot of people. Just tell me if a girl is young, what her body is like, how tall she is. Each one of these things is missing from the majority of TER reviews, but matter more than the entire TER reviews. There are PLEASER reviews where I can literally tell I'll like a girl that the reviewer didn't like, because he described the girl. I rushed to see her, of course I liked her. PLEASER reviews are fundamentally better because they remind people of the bare minimum. Don't even get me started on the fan fiction that fills TER that has caused problems. PM me for details, it is not pleasant for public discussion...

For my part I have not uttered one good word about a girl that I didn't mean... You'll never hear me complain of them or say guys shouldn't see them, quite the opposite in my HYA lists I always remind guys that most guys should ignore my list and go after MILFs instead. That said, believe me when I say I'm just not interested in them anymore, with exceptions. I respect and appreciate them still, and if I toftt and get a MILF I think "here we go again" and brace myself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RocketManP;7117123]I've heard of this concept before, and it's a very problematic concept imo. Because if you put getting new hyas to come here before the integrity of reviews, then you get this loop of writing exaggerated reviews with no real negatives just to butter up the girls so they'd tell their friends oh it's so easy to make $$$ here you should come.

What ends up happening is that people who don't ant more hyas to come straight up lie an give all these mediocre / rudimentary service girls 9's in service and shit.

I think it's dishonest and sad when a real service MILF who swallows all your spunk after no hand DTing your cock and spending 50 minutes of fucking you hard as hell. Gets the same service grade as hyas who just lie around and take it. Just because people want hyas to get good reviews so they stay.

Why not just give HYas great grades in f / b / looks and what they deserve in service / skills? Fair and honest.[/QUOTE]Not to put words into Boner's mouth, but I took it to mean that the more reviews of HYAs gets posted the more they are likely to recommend / recruit friends who are open to this line of work. However, that only works if the reviews are positive, that they are from reliable people, and it attracts enough exposure to keep them busy. I mentioned it before but the demand for HYA is there but less so than BB MILFs. Now add on to that, someone who seeks out HYAs [B]and[/B] posts honest reviews and you've got yourself a very small subset of the mongering pie. You can tell there's a lack of intel by the amount of posts asking if anyone's seen so and so. Lurkers and posters alike just aren't willing to share info freely like in the past for whatever reason. It's no wonder gatekeeping and private chats are a thing. With a smallish cohort, you can cover a specific niche like HYA pretty easily, even in a market as large as LA. Say you have 5 people, everyone takes turns trying out a new HYA and reports back the group. Therefore when you get an influx of up to 5 HYAs at a time, a single monger only has to spend money for one session to get complete intel coverage. From there, you narrow down who sounds like a winner for you and repeat.

I think it goes without saying that HYAs are much more likely to be poor service. I'm sure there are outliers but that should be the default assumption going in. As for fabricated reviews, that's already happening so it's nothing new. And it's not just HYAs either, reviews that are fake or inflated are being used to push MILFs, HYAs, and others. It's more work but if there's a review of a girl you are looking to see, it behooves you to make it a habit to checkout the reviewer's post history especially if it's low in count. By doing this, it'll help you fill in the gaps regarding the motives of their post. Similary for the other site, just look at their review history to help gauge how much of fan fic author they are.

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7117850]Just like you, I think it's dishonest when an MILF is described as being in her 20's, or even 30's when I think she might be 40+, or that she gets 9 in looks like HYA[/QUOTE]This, absolutely. Most of the time I have seen that "9" MILF, I can even name several MILFs that are several points higher. Let alone HYAs who are higher than those other MILFs.

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7117850]Back to HYA like Nali / Joah who had like 3 reviews while Tifa had 56 reviews in the same 2 months. Now you see why I am not happy about reviews.[/QUOTE]I've had people recommend Nali to me in private. Yes, I know why you aren't happy about reviews. I noticed LA has had less reviews this year than last, while SD has had more. There are natural ups and downs because people come and go.

I've been encouraging reviews in many cities. But in LA it can get weird because out of many great and reliable agencies there's going to be some problem. Full disclosure, I had to report to admin a very unhinged and threatening post made, obviously from a non-English speaker reading the LA board. Their lack of English maybe led them to misunderstand people saying "post honest reviews", because they even agreed in their post that that was admirable. But then it pro-actively threatened revenge and to dox people for reviews (okay this person is definitely Korean). Would be nice to know which agency has that policy lol. What an escalation, 80% of reviews are quite positive and drive the business. If 100% of reviews were positive, then no one would believe them.

The last time an agency tried something over reviews, they were 100% banned from TER, every girl who was on their roster was permanently wiped. You could not even post a new review for that agency. This was over just banning customers, let alone threats to harm them.

Think about this more. It is always an idle threat to harm customers because they know if they cross that red line and actually do it, everyone would soon know which agency is dangerous. I can understand banning customers, you don't have to serve anyone you don't like. You'll just lose TER like the last agency. But harming your own best customers who all know each other, some in real life? Who is going to screen or book with an agency that does this? People in the past have already done more to units, for lesser reasons. They already know that, so they would not do it. They literally have more to lose.

Antagonizing customers simply encourages negative reviews btw. And NYC is quite playful with their negative descriptions, you'd miss it if you weren't a native speaker.

That said, people have also had trouble with rebrands. Having to walk in and see a girl they already saw. A girl they can accept seeing the first time, but not accidentally booking for a forced repeat this way. While the previous threat was made by an owner, for rebrands the weird questions happen from bookers PMing users. I think it's fair enough to politely ask, but if any user feels uncomfortable or there's some implication, that's a safety issue with that agency. I have reassured several users that all bookers can do is make them vaguely uncomfortable. Again, they have more to lose. I doubt it would happen but if there are outright threats, just name them. What do you expect.

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7117894]Some people are very good with PLEASER descriptions. I am not but I try to describe looks.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, and it's great for beginners. Even when I don't recognize a reviewer the typical PLEASER is accurate.

I honestly feel half of it is just identifying the HYA. Below 30 years old, above average looks, that's Hot Young Asian to most people

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7117850]I was neither pressuring people to review nor asking them to exaggerate. It's my knee jerk reaction whenever someone brings up rate or quality and I haven't banged a new HYA in a few days.

Just like you, I think it's dishonest when an MILF is described as being in her 20's, or even 30's when I think she might be 40+, or that she gets 9 in looks like HYA.[/QUOTE]I totally get where you're coming from if service isn't a big factor in who you choose to see. Everyone has their own criteria and you do you. But I think it's a bit misleading to support your point for the lack of HYA reviews by comparing Nali to Tifa. There's a bit more context and nuance going on for this particular comparison.

Nali is locked behind one (rather tough to get into) booker and worked a very limited schedule when she first came back, only to open it up slightly later on. Meanwhile, Tifa pretty much hit the ground running with her name everywhere and worked the usual 12 hour shift. The difference in accessibility and availability between the two is rather stark. Hence, it stands to reason that you'll have a large disparity in the quantity of reviews. However, this doesn't invalid what you have said. That HYA reviews are very low in comparison to MILFs. It's just you chose a very poor example to highlight it.

My take on why HYA reviews are so low is that the HYA seeking crowd is just less inclined to post reviews and share intel (for whatever reason) compared to the MILF crowd.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7117937]However, this doesn't invalid what you have said. That HYA reviews are very low in comparison to MILFs..My take on why HYA reviews are so low is that the HYA seeking crowd is just less inclined to post reviews and share intel (for whatever reason) compared to the MILF crowd.[/QUOTE]I think there are just fewer HYAs and many have short tours compared to MILFs. Same thing with jgirls. This is one reason jgirls get multiple day one reviews, they might stay only 1 to 5 days at a place due to the corg system. Corgs understand reviews are necessary and jgirls are ready to change locations often. So people share constantly and it's 80% positive anyways. The proof this works is there used to be few jgirls. TER is useless for girls that stay 1 to 5 days, so USAG is doing all the work. There are actually a ton of kgirls and cgirls but no one talks about them. Lastly, NYC is very safe for the hobby, which favors USAG.

It helps that the reviewers have seen hundreds of each other's takes. And since they focus on just the pool of jgirls, it's possible to see every single girl. You can see the parallels with HYA here, you just need to label who is a candidate and people have a fair shot. 80% of the jgirls are worth seeing, if you are a jgirl lover. Maybe the same is true of HYA. For borderline girls the comments are nice but you get a clear honest picture. Rarely, there are a few girls not worth seeing no matter your taste. Dead silence.

I actually saw a ton of great intel in OC, people just come and go. At least 8 'mini reviewers' who love HYA as much as me, but fall into one of the categories I listed. Like they see every girl for 2 months and then go back to their life, or they found the one and we never hear of them again, and so on. I have found a few girls I can't stop seeing, what can I do. Boner is the anomaly, he is the explorer of HYA, combing the wilderness for new ones.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7118289]I think there are just fewer HYAs and many have short tours compared to MILFs... [/QUOTE]Logically this would support a higher review count. If the pool of HYA seekers who actually post reviews are held constant while the number of HYA diminishes, the overall chance that monger meets HYA increases. As a result, reviews should be more forthcoming, at least in theory. But if these type of mongers normally are averse to posting reviews and sharing their insights / opinions, then you get said outcome of low reviews of HYAs in general. That's just the conclusion I've arrived at.

Been reading up this thread. Don't know what y'all talking about half the time, but I think what we have to do is clear. Just post here girls who are actually young and not old, and build ep because I guess TER doesn't have rep. And no fuck your solid ass bonerific girls or whatever, that's honestly just stupid. There are other threads for that, it's literally off topic. I assure you American women are so fat, old, and ugly on average that Asian MILFs and whatnot will never go away. All we can do is try to give young girls more business.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7118367]Logically this would support a higher review count. If the pool of HYA seekers who actually post reviews are held constant while the number of HYA diminishes, the overall chance that monger meets HYA increases. As a result, reviews should be more forthcoming, at least in theory. But if these type of mongers normally are averse to posting reviews and sharing their insights / opinions, then you get said outcome of low reviews of HYAs in general. That's just the conclusion I've arrived at.[/QUOTE]This only happens if I have an clue who is young. Starting from scratch, all we can do ise see the Baby monkier in OK It's helpful but no guarantee, only half the bookers use it. I also rely on friends public and private. I wonder if the K label for CAKD serves as an alternative for HYA because I see the correlation. It is just my opinion, but the Baby moniker matches HYA 60%-80% of the time.

80% if you are easy to please like me, but drop it to 60% if you really care about face. I actually don't mind face if the girl is young and sweet, I just make her smile and we're both happy. Other guys have different taste, that's why I did reviews for them. It was an experiment to see how helpful description reviews are (body, hair, skin tone, attitude, etc..).

[QUOTE=CornMuffins;7118521]Been reading up this thread. Don't know what y'all talking about half the time, but I think what we have to do is clear. Just post here girls who are actually young and not old, and build ep because I guess TER doesn't have rep. And no fuck your solid ass bonerific girls or whatever, that's honestly just stupid. There are other threads for that, it's literally off topic. I assure you American women are so fat, old, and ugly on average that Asian MILFs and whatnot will never go away. All we can do is try to give young girls more business.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input, I agree young or old is what a lot of people want to know. I respect the older women, for 10 years MILFs have shown me a fantastic time. But I just want HYA for a change, so I want to know the same thing - young or old. Maybe a clue if a girl is cute or beautiful, just a hint. Boner calls them bonerific, it's his opinion everyone can say what they like or call girls how they want. Your opinion is just as valuable. In case there's confusion though, he pretty much only talks about HYA now, but he makes a few exceptions that's why he has a blanket term. Use whatever term you like.

[B]Leslie K[/B], [B]Hanni[/B], [B]Apink[/B], and [B]AllieDD[/B] have limited tours and are in OC, some for just a few days. Leslie K and Hanni are pretty solid HYAs but always read the HYA descriptions in my roster to know details. Leslie K with an alternative look with shoulder tattoos, Hanni is young with a cute face and womanly body. The other two are special too. I don't know [B]Ericka[/B] and [B]Jenny[/B] schedules but they are also HYA in my book. Ericka is very good looking and Jenny is dtf and encourages 2 shot ymmv. I mention this because I know friends who literally saw some HYA on their very last day, driving from LA. Just FYI. Other people will list different girls, I encourage them to show me who I'm missing because they are usually right.
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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7118733]This only happens if I have an clue who is young. Starting from scratch, all we can do ise see the Baby monkier in OK It's helpful but no guarantee, only half the bookers use it. I also rely on friends public and private. I wonder if the K label for CAKD serves as an alternative for HYA because I see the correlation. It is just my opinion, but the Baby moniker matches HYA 60%-80% of the time.

80% if you are easy to please like me, but drop it to 60% if you really care about face. I actually don't mind face if the girl is young and sweet, I just make her smile and we're both happy. Other guys have different taste, that's why I did reviews for them. It was an experiment to see how helpful description reviews are (body, hair, skin tone, attitude, etc..).

Thanks for your input, I agree young or old is what a lot of people want to know. I respect the older women, for 10 years MILFs have shown me a fantastic time. But I just want HYA for a change, so I want to know the same thing - young or old. Maybe a clue if a girl is cute or beautiful, just a hint. Boner calls them bonerific, it's his opinion everyone can say what they like or call girls how they want. Your opinion is just as valuable. In case there's confusion though, he pretty much only talks about HYA now, but he makes a few exceptions that's why he has a blanket term. Use whatever term you like.

[B]Leslie K[/B], [B]Hanni[/B], [B]Apink[/B], and [B]AllieDD[/B] have limited tours and are in OC, some for just a few days. Leslie K and Hanni are pretty solid HYAs but always read the HYA descriptions in my roster to know details. Leslie K with an alternative look with shoulder tattoos, Hanni is young with a cute face and womanly body. The other two are special too. I don't know [B]Ericka[/B] and [B]Jenny[/B] schedules but they are also HYA in my book. Ericka is very good looking and Jenny is dtf and encourages 2 shot ymmv. I mention this because I know friends who literally saw some HYA on their very last day, driving from LA. Just FYI. Other people will list different girls, I encourage them to show me who I'm missing because they are usually right.
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[URL]https://www.sweetasiangem.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]The Baby moniker has become unreliable. Ericka is listed as Baby Ericka on a few booker sites and she ain't no damn baby!

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7113360]I like to thank the HYAs and Superior favorites for giving Boner many happy endings. There is no Boner without you. Please treat any kind old guy (OG) like your oppa and give him a passionate boning. That OG may be Boner.

Boner is hard at work on a concept of a plan to deport MILFs next year. Hot Asian Girls (HAG) and Boner Solid Companions (BSC) will be exempted.[/QUOTE]I will say that I think I mostly have similar taste to Boner. Saw Lily-K and she was very much my taste. Great toned body, cute face. I just wish she was a little smaller as I tend to lean towards spinners. Service was ok. Not sure if I would repeat but definitely worth a visit if you have not seen her before.

Imo you guys are focusing on the wrong part of my post.

My point was that if the focus on keeping and bringing more hyas here, inevitably and irrevocably mongers will care about keeping the girls happy by any means. Which, as noble and chivalrous it may appear, will misrepresent and mislead mongers. And that's against my religion. Being truthful and straightforward is way more important than pussy supply of hyas / milfs / whatever your preference is. Imo. Focusing on giving girls biz will result in some dedicated mongers writing multiple reviews, possibly under different names. When that girl moves some might follow her to the local forums and then write reviews for her as if they lived there etc. It just snowballs so many things.

Hence my position is quite simple. Write the truth and don't have any ulterior motives for reviews. The only motive should be next brother here getting truthful information of what to be expected. It shouldn't be buttering up the hya supply in Korea.

It doesn't matter what the assumption is, if I give a looker a 9 in service it means she's on the level of a 9 service queen. And it's not like looks where it's subjective. A lot of service is very skill dependent. How can a girl who can only have endurance for 2 minutes in cg, get the same service grade of someone who can go on and on for 10 minutes in perfect rhythm of hard acg snu snu?

How can someone who sucks only the tip get the same service grade who swallows the dick whole and then uses her tongue to scrape the underside of my balls? And then swallows all my spunk in a form of a throat pie? Some girls are on a different planet service wise. Why should they get the same service grade as someone who is simply hot. All because you want her to get biz and bring more friends over or stay longer?

I do agree with Boner that it goes both ways. Service milfs shouldn't get passes in their looks either. But hot young girls shouldn't be given great service grades simply because you don't care about service much and want to keep them around.

And BTW I never said that this was about Boner. I've heard it on forums, like ter forums, someone literally said to keep hot girls we must write reviews that give them good service grades even if it wasn't good service. Especially in comparison.

Boner, as far as Yuffie and Nali / Joah not sure why you brought those specific girls up.

I've seen both in the bay area. I gave Joah 5 for her service and I gave Yuffie 6 for looks which was probably a bit generous in 2020.

The problem arises when you want to compare services and if you look at my reviews for example it's easy to see who I think are top service girls. And who I think are lookers. The Vienn diagram for this is pretty much two circles with no union. With few exceptions here and there.

The problem here is that neither of my review would be considered purely "positive" or would contribute to girls staying or going. And yet both of those reviews kinda are! One of them is an atf and another one of the best looking kgirls I've seen.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7117919]Not to put words into Boner's mouth, but I took it to mean that the more reviews of HYAs gets posted the more they are likely to recommend / recruit friends who are open to this line of work. However, that only works if the reviews are positive, that they are from reliable people, and it attracts enough exposure to keep them busy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CornMuffins;7118521]Been reading up this thread. Don't know what y'all talking about half the time, but I think what we have to do is clear. Just post here girls who are actually young and not old, and build ep because I guess TER doesn't have rep. And no fuck your solid ass bonerific girls or whatever, that's honestly just stupid. There are other threads for that, it's literally off topic. I assure you American women are so fat, old, and ugly on average that Asian MILFs and whatnot will never go away. All we can do is try to give young girls more business.[/QUOTE]K. I. S. S. Keep It Simple, Stupid.

And stop paying $420-$450 donations for MILFS, God Damn It. That's for HYA's only.

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7117850]Back to HYA like Nali / Joah who had like 3 reviews while Tifa had 56 reviews in the same 2 months. Now you see why I am not happy about reviews.[/QUOTE]Nali could truly be a case of gatekeeping. She's so beautiful, and so young, and so skilled that I can understand why some guys wouldn't want to spread the word and make it even more difficult to book an appointment with her. Also, her booker is very strict about screening new customers. (Which is a good thing, IMO.).

Whereas, Tifa is booked by nearly every booker in LA. It's much easier to get an appointment with her.

But, in general, I don't rely on public reviews. As we all know, the best recommendations come from other trusted bros, usually in private conversations.

I knew you saw Nali and Yuffie was your ATF based on your posts, so I wanted to see if you think I am being fair. I think you are fair based on your POV. It seems we also agreed on Yuffie's looks. I thought I might be horny and her juicy ass and tits in the pics might have nudged a 5 to a 6.

Like you, I tend to grade or rank based on comparison of ALL girls I saw. If I care about service, I would never rate an HYA higher than an MILF if her service is not actually equivalent. Since I only care about the happiness meter, Nali's performance score ended up being high, and an MILF performance score might end up very low, like a 3 or a 2.

My big issue is the clear biases and exaggeration BB MILFs had, false intel, and lack of intel for any girl besides BB MILFs. So I joined this forum and tried to be nice and focused on only reviewing and answering questions. Yet people accused me of overrating girls on looks, or criticized their service not as good as MILF. From my POV, nobody complained about BB MILFs for their looks and age. Some people also exaggerated the service of MILFs.

That caused me to go full Boner and started the HYA movement. I completely agree that we should have truthful reviews to help everyone make better decisions. I bolded the text I complete agreed. Main problem to me is still that HYAs don't get reviewed much and MILFs have the most exaggerated reviews.

I am surprised you saw people saying "to keep hot girls we must write reviews that give them good service grades". I thought everyone was gatekeeping hot girls LOL.

[QUOTE=RocketManP;7119085]...
[b]My point was that if the focus on keeping and bringing more hyas here, inevitably and irrevocably mongers will care about keeping the girls happy by any means.[/b] Which, as noble and chivalrous it may appear, [b]will misrepresent and mislead mongers.[/b] And that's against my religion. [b]Being truthful and straightforward is way more important[/b] than pussy supply of hyas / milfs / whatever your preference is...

Hence my position is quite simple. [b]Write the truth and don't have any ulterior motives for reviews. The only motive should be next brother here getting truthful information of what to be expected.[/b] It shouldn't be buttering up the hya supply in Korea.

It doesn't matter what the assumption is, if I give a looker a 9 in service it means she's on the level of a 9 service queen. And it's not like looks where it's subjective. A lot of service is very skill dependent...

I do agree with Boner that it goes both ways. Service milfs shouldn't get passes in their looks either. But hot young girls shouldn't be given great service grades simply because you don't care about service much and want to keep them around.

And BTW I never said that this was about Boner. I've heard it on forums, like ter forums, someone literally said to keep hot girls we must write reviews that give them good service grades even if it wasn't good service. Especially in comparison.

Boner, as far as Yuffie and Nali / Joah not sure why you brought those specific girls up.

I've seen both in the bay area. I gave Joah 5 for her service and I gave Yuffie 6 for looks which was probably a bit generous in 2020.

The problem arises when you want to compare services and if you look at my reviews for example it's easy to see who I think are top service girls. And who I think are lookers. The Vienn diagram for this is pretty much two circles with no union. With few exceptions here and there.

The problem here is that neither of my review would be considered purely "positive" or would contribute to girls staying or going. And yet both of those reviews kinda are! One of them is an atf and another one of the best looking kgirls I've seen.[/QUOTE]

I forgot Nali was actually being gate kept cause she was hard to book. I tried to bust the gatekeeping by reviewing her. Let's use Baby Yui as another example. 0 review on TER and 1 review from Boner, and 2 recs from others. She was pretty busy enough. I can't help but grumbling when I saw a hot girl who seemed busy but got no review. I might have missed out!

As you said, I think most people like BB MILFs, HYAs, GFE only girls in that order, and HYAs don't get reviewed much. I might be the idiot who TOFTT while everyone else is in their little private groups and helping each other. Perhaps things still turn out the same if I did nothing. Someone did say market will self-correct after all.

I think I will stop trying so hard and just observe for a few months. It seems people prefer things the way it is. I feel like bros already know how to find HYAs.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7117937]... However, this doesn't invalid what you have said. That HYA reviews are very low in comparison to MILFs. It's just you chose a very poor example to highlight it.

My take on why HYA reviews are so low is that [b]the HYA seeking crowd is just less inclined to post reviews and share intel (for whatever reason) compared to the MILF crowd.[/b][/QUOTE]