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I believe she's blocked me now, but wanted $cashapp to see her private pics. Like, WTF? I wished her all the best.
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I believe she's blocked me now, but wanted $cashapp to see her private pics. Like, WTF? I wished her all the best.
[QUOTE=MnCuckold;5137825]In the past I've been doing a quantity over quality thing on SA, choosing to enjoy the $300 college-aged girls, finding a few gems and quite a few less-than-gems. After sort of doing the math, I landed on a different strategy the past 3-4 months, which has been to go higher quality (with a commensurate higher price tag). On the plus side, it's meant weekends with models who have over 100 k instagram following in both cases (also both grad students, so intelligent). I figured the investment on my side gives me a GFE-level experience over a full evening / weekend that would cost in the thousands in the escort world and is considerably less than that on SA (although more than I am normally paying). On the other hand, it's like when you upgrade to drinking $60 bottles of wine compared to $15 bottles. The wine at $15 is still ok, but nothing like $60.
Anyway, I'm curious if any of you have employed this approach and what your luck has been?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, that approach is what those GPS girls want you to believe which increases the price for the rest including the old, fat and ugly women. I know what you are saying. But you'll be surprised that a lot of those "College" or "Intelligent Graduate" students are nothing but pro's or semi-pro's or have some expensive addiction or lazy-ass boyfriends. I've noticed a lot of average or ugly women feel they are entitled simple because they hear othe women charge big allowances, but they don't realize those women are younger and smoking hot. Back in the day, before SA and many dating platforms, a lot of college students used to work at this place during summer time, Mis of them where super hot and old guys from the neighbourhood used to hang out there exclusively to hook up with them after work. It was in the Gold Coast area. Even myself being a broken student was able to hook up with them, I even had a threesome at their apartment. Booz was their allowance and everybody was happy. Now SA is a treasure island for women especially for the pro's and ugly ones! They only need to deceive you they are college girls but in reality a lot of them are pro's or semi pro's. I'm not saying your will not find real hot and young college girls. Just the chances are getting slimmer with all the BS that goes there. I myself was so lucky to find this young and hot girl for a very affordable allowance. I'm still enjoying my honeymoon and its a proof that you don't have to pay big allowances to find quality. Since you mention the wine example, not all expensive wines are better and not all cheap wines are good. There's a balance in between and it takes time and patience to find it.
[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5137761]Thinking about seeing a few ladies from SA for the first time. I'm looking for advice on hotels.
Should I book something more upscale? Usually these do not have a side entrance that's easy to access. In this case, I should just text and meet them downstairs and walk them up?
Should I go for something more midrange? Sometimes, these do have a side door but I'm not sure what's up with Covid. In this case, do I just give them the room number?
I ask because my nightmare scenario is having a crackhead show up at a hotel lobby or some girl who has brought a pimp and cause trouble.
Maybe someone can give me some advice on scheduling because I have never even booked an outcall before, only incalls so far.[/QUOTE]I never invite a girl over my place, if she can't host, I get a hotel room. The trick for me is not about the price itself but the area. In other words, I always try to find cheap hotel / motel rooms at safe areas, like O'hare, Rosemont, Norridge, Lincoln Park, Lakeview, etc. It puts women at ease at certain degree. I also prefer hotel because of safety for everybody. They have cameras everywhere and if something goes wrong, there's evidence. Since you have to be discrete, don't go and meet them in the lobby. I usually give them a different nearby room number and wait in the hallway. When I see the girl coming and know it's her and she's by herself, I approach her and tell her I'm sorry I gave you the previous room number I was given, but they switched rooms because the Heat / AC wasn't working properly, that's why I came out to see you. Just come up with something. But if you see the girl regularly and there's is some kind of trust, obviously you invite her directly to your room. So far it has worked for me.
[QUOTE=MnCuckold;5137833][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8ff72f6e-257b-4fd7-b52f-5c33fc8d0e70[/URL]
I believe she's blocked me now, but wanted $cashapp to see her private pics. Like, WTF? I wished her all the best.[/QUOTE]It doesn't show for me either, it must be deactivated.
[QUOTE=MnCuckold;5137825]In the past I've been doing a quantity over quality thing on SA, choosing to enjoy the $300 college-aged girls, finding a few gems and quite a few less-than-gems. After sort of doing the math, I landed on a different strategy the past 3-4 months, which has been to go higher quality (with a commensurate higher price tag). On the plus side, it's meant weekends with models who have over 100 k instagram following in both cases (also both grad students, so intelligent). I figured the investment on my side gives me a GFE-level experience over a full evening / weekend that would cost in the thousands in the escort world and is considerably less than that on SA (although more than I am normally paying). On the other hand, it's like when you upgrade to drinking $60 bottles of wine compared to $15 bottles. The wine at $15 is still ok, but nothing like $60.
Anyway, I'm curious if any of you have employed this approach and what your luck has been?[/QUOTE]Can you share a few links of high end girls that look well and also deliver GFE unless obviously you are keeping your unicorns? I value performance, menu and attitude over looks but will be great to combine all of them. I try to stay in the 300 range but will consider splurging on high end 500 - 600 girls. I had a 200 - 250 girl not much of a looker but total GFE and 3 - 4 or more rounds of BBFS and BBBJ DFK, etc. And some 400 cute pretty looking girls who offer one round CFS charging based on her looks. I have been quoted 1 G by some GPS and I would have considered it for my birthday but has to be 24 hr full open menu but they don't tell you what you will get for 1 G except vaguely saying "nobody had complained yet you will enjoy it". Too much gamble for 1 G.
[QUOTE=StanKost;5138129]Can you share a few links of high end girls that look well and also deliver GFE unless obviously you are keeping your unicorns? I value performance, menu and attitude over looks but will be great to combine all of them. I try to stay in the 300 range but will consider splurging on high end 500 - 600 girls. I had a 200 - 250 girl not much of a looker but total GFE and 3 - 4 or more rounds of BBFS and BBBJ DFK, etc. And some 400 cute pretty looking girls who offer one round CFS charging based on her looks. I have been quoted 1 G by some GPS and I would have considered it for my birthday but has to be 24 hr full open menu but they don't tell you what you will get for 1 G except vaguely saying "nobody had complained yet you will enjoy it". Too much gamble for 1 G.[/QUOTE]I just have the two I've found. One is off the site now, the other still on but I'm keeping them for now, until I can't afford anymore haha, which is actually a real possibility. I do agree with you that the 24 hour open menu is important. The one who's off is enhanced and I have to say, having not partaken in fake boobs all that much before, hers are pretty amazing. She has a fan subreddit on reddit, so it's sort of crazy being able to be fucking someone that other guys are fan-swooning over on reddit. Weird world, but as I said, it comes with a cost. I'm sort of trying to talk myself into believing it's worth it.
That's not an approach I've personally tried. Never have found that high price tag equated to high quality. 90% of the time 500 never yielded anything better than 300.
That said I have never deliberately gone after that market so maybe you are on to something and am curious what your approach and findings have been. Sounds like you are pursuing overnight and full weekend type stuff, or maybe that happens organically due to the $ involved?
At this point I'm open to trying anything given the current shit show state of affairs on SA! 🤣.
[QUOTE=MnCuckold;5137825]In the past I've been doing a quantity over quality thing on SA, choosing to enjoy the $300 college-aged girls, finding a few gems and quite a few less-than-gems. After sort of doing the math, I landed on a different strategy the past 3-4 months, which has been to go higher quality (with a commensurate higher price tag). On the plus side, it's meant weekends with models who have over 100 k instagram following in both cases (also both grad students, so intelligent). I figured the investment on my side gives me a GFE-level experience over a full evening / weekend that would cost in the thousands in the escort world and is considerably less than that on SA (although more than I am normally paying). On the other hand, it's like when you upgrade to drinking $60 bottles of wine compared to $15 bottles. The wine at $15 is still ok, but nothing like $60.
Anyway, I'm curious if any of you have employed this approach and what your luck has been?[/QUOTE]
She / He / It ran the same scam with a STL location. Check post 2774 and I guess that guy bought some pics of her hoping she would meet.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?20858-Sugar-bowl-sites-and-sugar-babies&p=5091737&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5091737.
[QUOTE=Shorty58;5137551][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3fa4efeb-4a92-4e8b-b1fa-c0cd37ee2b84[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MnCuckold;5138174]I just have the two I've found. One is off the site now, the other still on but I'm keeping them for now, until I can't afford anymore haha, which is actually a real possibility. I do agree with you that the 24 hour open menu is important. The one who's off is enhanced and I have to say, having not partaken in fake boobs all that much before, hers are pretty amazing. She has a fan subreddit on reddit, so it's sort of crazy being able to be fucking someone that other guys are fan-swooning over on reddit. Weird world, but as I said, it comes with a cost. I'm sort of trying to talk myself into believing it's worth it.[/QUOTE]Several of you asked if I could share a pic or two. I don't want to share anything that can be reverse-imaged so I'm dropping a couple here without face, but the face is really beautiful.
I have had really good success with Dayuse app. The biggest drawback is that it isn't useful in all areas. But it's cheaper than full price and can be available in the morning.
[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5137761]Thinking about seeing a few ladies from SA for the first time. I'm looking for advice on hotels.
Should I book something more upscale? Usually these do not have a side entrance that's easy to access. In this case, I should just text and meet them downstairs and walk them up?
Should I go for something more midrange? Sometimes, these do have a side door but I'm not sure what's up with Covid. In this case, do I just give them the room number?
I ask because my nightmare scenario is having a crackhead show up at a hotel lobby or some girl who has brought a pimp and cause trouble.
Maybe someone can give me some advice on scheduling because I have never even booked an outcall before, only incalls so far.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5137761]Thinking about seeing a few ladies from SA for the first time. I'm looking for advice on hotels.
Should I book something more upscale? Usually these do not have a side entrance that's easy to access. In this case, I should just text and meet them downstairs and walk them up?
Should I go for something more midrange? Sometimes, these do have a side door but I'm not sure what's up with Covid. In this case, do I just give them the room number?
I ask because my nightmare scenario is having a crackhead show up at a hotel lobby or some girl who has brought a pimp and cause trouble.
Maybe someone can give me some advice on scheduling because I have never even booked an outcall before, only incalls so far.[/QUOTE]Then dayuse will give you what you need. Always meet them outside before you go in to get the room. Avoids sitting on a nice bed by yourself. I always do suburban ones so I cannot help you in the city. Depending on the place, I will text her the room number if it seems she can just walk in with no problem. Otherwise, after you've verified that she is real, get the room, come back out and try to get in a side door with her.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5137761]Thinking about seeing a few ladies from SA for the first time. I'm looking for advice on hotels.
Should I book something more upscale? Usually these do not have a side entrance that's easy to access. In this case, I should just text and meet them downstairs and walk them up?
Should I go for something more midrange? Sometimes, these do have a side door but I'm not sure what's up with Covid. In this case, do I just give them the room number?
I ask because my nightmare scenario is having a crackhead show up at a hotel lobby or some girl who has brought a pimp and cause trouble.
Maybe someone can give me some advice on scheduling because I have never even booked an outcall before, only incalls so far.[/QUOTE]I've been on the sidelines most of the year because of work from home, but in the several years pre Covid I had a lot of luck with Dayuse. Really easy booking and places were not high end upscale but nice and comfortable. Like one of the other posters said they're clustered in the W burbs and a few parts of the city, so location could be an issue depending on where you play. They also allow cancellation anytime during your window so you aren't stuck with a bill if someone disappears just before you have plans. I would usually only book a room if I'd already had a decent quick meet and greet with a girl, so I would have already seen them and been fairly sure they would show up. Not sure I would ever book and check in with someone sight unseen. The pimp, fake, etc risks definitely rise dramatically if all you've ever done is text. Even so, the morning of I'd wait near the hotel until they were confirming by text that they were very close by, and then check in and give them the room number. Only had one who bailed that late in the process, so I just swallowed my frustration and enjoyed the peace and quiet of the room for a few hours. Also never had any issues with anyone getting through the lobby and to the room, although that could be different with all the health concerns now. I also had a credit card under my control with no discretion concerns, and never had any kind of receipt, etc mailed to me after the fact. If you were going to try the last minute switch to cash which I know some guys want to do, not sure how well that would work. I think most places want some kind of card to run for 'incidentals' so I think this part of the game is tough if you don't have a card with no prying eyes.
[QUOTE=PauFord;5138664]That's not an approach I've personally tried. Never have found that high price tag equated to high quality. 90% of the time 500 never yielded anything better than 300.
That said I have never deliberately gone after that market so maybe you are on to something and am curious what your approach and findings have been. Sounds like you are pursuing overnight and full weekend type stuff, or maybe that happens organically due to the $ involved?
At this point I'm open to trying anything given the current shit show state of affairs on SA! 🤣.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more with the shit show aspect of the site. I think onlyfans is indeed cutting in a bit. I was following a girl on twitter who has an onlyfans page that grossed her over 200 k in 2020. Granted it was a weird pandemic year where folks were inside, but she was, while attractive, nothing spectacular. I just think there are other options for some girls who in the past might have done SA. I am seeing the deterioration on the lower end where the 300's are not nearly as attractive / college / young as they once were. There are still some pretty good 400's and 500's, and I have one remaining 300 who I see although she's decidedly an acquired taste (shaved head, lots of tattoos, but an amazing body).
[QUOTE=MnCuckold;5137825]In the past I've been doing a quantity over quality thing on SA, choosing to enjoy the $300 college-aged girls, finding a few gems and quite a few less-than-gems. After sort of doing the math, I landed on a different strategy the past 3-4 months, which has been to go higher quality (with a commensurate higher price tag). On the plus side, it's meant weekends with models who have over 100 k instagram following in both cases (also both grad students, so intelligent). I figured the investment on my side gives me a GFE-level experience over a full evening / weekend that would cost in the thousands in the escort world and is considerably less than that on SA (although more than I am normally paying). On the other hand, it's like when you upgrade to drinking $60 bottles of wine compared to $15 bottles. The wine at $15 is still ok, but nothing like $60.
Anyway, I'm curious if any of you have employed this approach and what your luck has been?[/QUOTE]Sort of. I'm happy to keep increasing my spend if it's productive. I've dated several girls that I'd offer $1,000 per date to if it came to that, but they agreed to $400 or $500, so I never had to. On the other hand, I've seen a few women on Tinder, Seeking and Snapchat that were curious about being a sugar baby--and smoking hot--who I've been unable to tempt into a date even if I offer $1,000. I get a "you seem nice and that's generous, but I just don't think this is for me. " Though one of those girls did finally meet me in March after years of me trying. I finally caught her in a weeks long window where she wasn't dating anyone.
I find that the bikini model types who command $2,000 per night are more like discriminating semi-pros, which is fine, but I'm not nearly as attracted to someone who is polished and experienced as I am to a Big Ten cheerleader type who is feeling secretive and naughty when she's with me.
One thing I have done a couple times this year is offer small-market hotties $7- or $800 to drive up to me from Bloomington, IN or Kalamazoo or something. I met a girl on Tinder year for lunch in Kalamazoo last who has the best natural tits I've ever seen in person. She was sugar-curious but wouldn't plan a second date with me in Kzoo for $500. When I offered her $800 to drive to me, she was suddenly responding to my texts again.
[QUOTE=TheArgent;5139994]Sort of. I'm happy to keep increasing my spend if it's productive. I've dated several girls that I'd offer $1,000 per date to if it came to that, but they agreed to $400 or $500, so I never had to. On the other hand, I've seen a few women on Tinder, Seeking and Snapchat that were curious about being a sugar baby--and smoking hot--who I've been unable to tempt into a date even if I offer $1,000. I get a "you seem nice and that's generous, but I just don't think this is for me. " Though one of those girls did finally meet me in March after years of me trying. I finally caught her in a weeks long window where she wasn't dating anyone.
I find that the bikini model types who command $2,000 per night are more like discriminating semi-pros, which is fine, but I'm not nearly as attracted to someone who is polished and experienced as I am to a Big Ten cheerleader type who is feeling secretive and naughty when she's with me.
One thing I have done a couple times this year is offer small-market hotties $7- or $800 to drive up to me from Bloomington, IN or Kalamazoo or something. I met a girl on Tinder year for lunch in Kalamazoo last who has the best natural tits I've ever seen in person. She was sugar-curious but wouldn't plan a second date with me in Kzoo for $500. When I offered her $800 to drive to me, she was suddenly responding to my texts again.[/QUOTE]That's a really great strategy on the smaller market beauties. There aren't as many wealthy guys in those towns, for one, so the prices don't get bid up as much, plus they are won't get that sort of money in the college towns. I like that idea a lot.