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[QUOTE=JohnPot;6195121]Nah, because we all pay the current advertised price. Otherwise, me would have fill up on 99 c / gal gas right now.
What do you even think? Because the girl said so? If that the case, then there would be at least 10 hot girls being single right now because they all said they would never married if it's not me. P.S.:. All 10 married now.[/QUOTE]It's naive to think everyone pays the same rate. Most, yes, but definitively not all. Like any business, there's preferential rates. It could be because of chemistry, being a long time repeat customer, or other quid pro quo arrangements. Now, don't take this as impetus to start negotiating rates with your ATF unless you want to risk being BL. The opportunities tend to pop up organically and usually from her end.
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Exactly.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6195553]It's naive to think everyone pays the same rate. Most, yes, but definitively not all. Like any business, there's preferential rates. It could be because of chemistry, being a long time repeat customer, or other quid pro quo arrangements. Now, don't take this as impetus to start negotiating rates with your ATF unless you want to risk being BL. The opportunities tend to pop up organically and usually from her end.[/QUOTE]I have known this provider for many, many years and we have spent a ton of OTC time together, etc. So, it was definitely preferential treatment based on a long established rapport. As she has progressively raised her rate, she has repeatedly reminded me that the old rate applied to me and would continue to. And to be clear, I always paid her more than what she asked of me (tip), but what I gave her was still less than her normal rate for others. JohnPot, by your logic, you would have me pay $6 for a gallon of gas that the station owner offered me for $4. That makes no sense. Of course I am not going to pay the normal rate when I am repeatedly told an older, lower rate is reserved for me.
In response to Boner, you are absolutely right that I have to choice to pay the advertised rate or walk away. I don't feel entitled to a lower rate, and I actually would not have had a problem had she told me "I am sorry, but I am going to have to ask you to pay the full rate from now on. " That would be reasonable and understandable, especially considering how generous she has been to me in multiple ways. What pissed me off is the accusation of intentionally shorting her over and over. That really makes no sense. Do any of us really believe that a single one of these girls would let us walk out the door even once if they thought we shorted them? Let alone allow it to happen repeatedly for years, but still see us and hang out with us OTC? Totally ridiculous. She knows. She didn't forget.
To Hapa, I don't think it has anything to do with what other customers said. No one could name drop me because no one here or anywhere else knows my actual identity, and I am not going to name this provider in the context of this situation, not here, and not in PM (several requests already). I have other theories about why she raised it on me, but I am not at liberty to discuss it here.
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Bro, All I say is this. To a certain point, it just pure taking advantage of people. I have a friend, who I saved his life twice, who own a restaurant. He always insist that I eat at his restaurant for free. I took the offered once and that's it. All subsequence times that I eat at his restaurant, I always go at the time that he's not there and insist on paying for my meals. By your logic, I will eat at his restaurant Free for the rest of my life because he said so. But then, everybody have their standard. I have mine, you have yours.
[QUOTE=FiatVoluptas;6195966]I have known this provider for many, many years and we have spent a ton of OTC time together, etc. So, it was definitely preferential treatment based on a long established rapport. As she has progressively raised her rate, she has repeatedly reminded me that the old rate applied to me and would continue to. And to be clear, I always paid her more than what she asked of me (tip), but what I gave her was still less than her normal rate for others. JohnPot, by your logic, you would have me pay $6 for a gallon of gas that the station owner offered me for $4. That makes no sense. Of course I am not going to pay the normal rate when I am repeatedly told an older, lower rate is reserved for me.
In response to Boner, you are absolutely right that I have to choice to pay the advertised rate or walk away. I don't feel entitled to a lower rate, and I actually would not have had a problem had she told me "I am sorry, but I am going to have to ask you to pay the full rate from now on. " That would be reasonable and understandable, especially considering how generous she has been to me in multiple ways. What pissed me off is the accusation of intentionally shorting her over and over. That really makes no sense. Do any of us really believe that a single one of these girls would let us walk out the door even once if they thought we shorted them? Let alone allow it to happen repeatedly for years, but still see us and hang out with us OTC? Totally ridiculous. She knows. She didn't forget.
To Hapa, I don't think it has anything to do with what other customers said. No one could name drop me because no one here or anywhere else knows my actual identity, and I am not going to name this provider in the context of this situation, not here, and not in PM (several requests already). I have other theories about why she raised it on me, but I am not at liberty to discuss it here.[/QUOTE]
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False equivocation.
[QUOTE=JohnPot;6198386]Bro, All I say is this. To a certain point, it just pure taking advantage of people. I have a friend, who I saved his life twice, who own a restaurant. He always insist that I eat at his restaurant for free. I took the offered once and that's it. All subsequence times that I eat at his restaurant, I always go at the time that he's not there and insist on paying for my meals. By your logic, I will eat at his restaurant Free for the rest of my life because he said so. But then, everybody have their standard. I have mine, you have yours.[/QUOTE]You've made a false equivocation on two accounts. First you're talking about a friend. I'm talking about someone with whom I have a business relationship. Secondly, you're talking about taking something for free, whereas I'm talking about accepting an offered discount. These situations are not remotely equivocal. I was not "taking advantage" of anyone. Your insinuation that I am somehow morally in the wrong here is way off base.
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Let it go
[QUOTE=FiatVoluptas;6195966]I have known this provider for many, many years and we have spent a ton of OTC time together, etc. So, it was definitely preferential treatment based on a long established rapport. As she has progressively raised her rate, she has repeatedly reminded me that the old rate applied to me and would continue to. And to be clear, I always paid her more than what she asked of me (tip), but what I gave her was still less than her normal rate for others. JohnPot, by your logic, you would have me pay $6 for a gallon of gas that the station owner offered me for $4. That makes no sense. Of course I am not going to pay the normal rate when I am repeatedly told an older, lower rate is reserved for me.
In response to Boner, you are absolutely right that I have to choice to pay the advertised rate or walk away. I don't feel entitled to a lower rate, and I actually would not have had a problem had she told me "I am sorry, but I am going to have to ask you to pay the full rate from now on. " That would be reasonable and understandable, especially considering how generous she has been to me in multiple ways. What pissed me off is the accusation of intentionally shorting her over and over. That really makes no sense. Do any of us really believe that a single one of these girls would let us walk out the door even once if they thought we shorted them? Let alone allow it to happen repeatedly for years, but still see us and hang out with us OTC? Totally ridiculous. She knows. She didn't forget.[/QUOTE]From the information that was presented, I would assume that this is her way of saying not to see her anymore. Something must've happened on either your last visit or the one prior that made her become paranoid. Another possibility is she tried to borrow money from you and you respectfully declined. Another possibility is you've been increasingly more demanding with the type of service you wanted and it made her feel uncomfortable in some way. The most realistic possibility is that if a girl is constantly reminding you that her rates have increased means she's hinting that she clearly wants you to pay more even if she is saying that the rate will stay the same for you. Either way, for her to make those types of accusations means she no longer values you as a client and it's best to just find another girl.
I don't think you understand the type of mindset you need to have to have sex with hundreds if not thousands of different men that they don't like. The type of principals that you're talking about or trying to logical rationalise how these people think is pointless. They're not normal. We clearly don't have the whole picture but I'm already assuming you know the real reason.
But really for your sake, stay away from her. If you underestimate these types of girls it will only hurt you. They're not smart and look harmless but any animal backed into a corner can inflict an incredible amount of damage.
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Good points.
[QUOTE=PoopsAndGiggle;6198501]From the information that was presented, I would assume that this is her way of saying not to see her anymore. Something must've happened on either your last visit or the one prior that made her become paranoid. Another possibility is she tried to borrow money from you and you respectfully declined. Another possibility is you've been increasingly more demanding with the type of service you wanted and it made her feel uncomfortable in some way. The most realistic possibility is that if a girl is constantly reminding you that her rates have increased means she's hinting that she clearly wants you to pay more even if she is saying that the rate will stay the same for you. Either way, for her to make those types of accusations means she no longer values you as a client and it's best to just find another girl.
I don't think you understand the type of mindset you need to have to have sex with hundreds if not thousands of different men that they don't like. The type of principals that you're talking about or trying to logical rationalise how these people think is pointless. They're not normal. We clearly don't have the whole picture but I'm already assuming you know the real reason.
But really for your sake, stay away from her. If you underestimate these types of girls it will only hurt you. They're not smart and look harmless but any animal backed into a corner can inflict an incredible amount of damage.[/QUOTE]These are good insights. I think you are right with just about everything you said here.
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Bro, let agree to disagree. Different people have different mindset.
My old man told me once: There is no free lunch. In this case, there is no such thing is discount lunch. Always true.
Back to the ho business. I've heard that there's a gem just came to LA. Hope you all enjoy her taco.
[QUOTE=FiatVoluptas;6198466]You've made a false equivocation on two accounts. First you're talking about a friend. I'm talking about someone with whom I have a business relationship. Secondly, you're talking about taking something for free, whereas I'm talking about accepting an offered discount. These situations are not remotely equivocal. I was not "taking advantage" of anyone. Your insinuation that I am somehow morally in the wrong here is way off base.[/QUOTE]
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Eva, Shani, Mira, Asia
Ventured out a bit this week and to try girls that aren't Elle, here are some reports:
Eva. Very good looking, probably the prettiest face after Rie. Nice body, super sweet girl, really soft and long BBBJ.
Shani. Lacking in the face, kind of average and round. Body is stocky and not really a spinner like I expected. Good BBBJ, but wasn't really into the session.
Mira. Pretty face, but body is pretty average. Not skinny, boobs are kinda weird shape. Really PSE though and great in bed.
Asia. Nice body, almost as nice as Elle's, but appears too old for me. Amazing BBBJ though and great 69 action. Of the MILF types, I would say Lyn is still the best, as she's prettier and offers similar service.
It was a nice break for me, but going back to Elle since I still can't find anyone as good as her.
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Holiday are coming and what does that mean girls want to buy those LV, Chanel, Gucci, Fendi goods.
Few Kgals reached out to me Reah and Rozel.
I look forward to seeing them soon!
Don't ask about Reah cause she only contacting peeps she "wants" to see!
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Rozel
[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;6201698]Holiday are coming and what does that mean girls want to buy those LV, Chanel, Gucci, Fendi goods.
Few Kgals reached out to me Reah and Rozel.
I look forward to seeing them soon!
Don't ask about Reah cause she only contacting peeps she "wants" to see![/QUOTE]LOL, Rozel's cheating on her hub already? Wonder what she wanted.
I can guess what Reah wants since she was into one brand only.
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Sounds accurate
[QUOTE=AlexisDavis;6199965]Ventured out a bit this week and to try girls that aren't Elle, here are some reports:
Eva. Very good looking, probably the prettiest face after Rie. Nice body, super sweet girl, really soft and long BBBJ.
Shani. Lacking in the face, kind of average and round. Body is stocky and not really a spinner like I expected. Good BBBJ, but wasn't really into the session.
Mira. Pretty face, but body is pretty average. Not skinny, boobs are kinda weird shape. Really PSE though and great in bed.
Asia. Nice body, almost as nice as Elle's, but appears too old for me. Amazing BBBJ though and great 69 action. Of the MILF types, I would say Lyn is still the best, as she's prettier and offers similar service.
It was a nice break for me, but going back to Elle since I still can't find anyone as good as her.[/QUOTE]I can second everything you said except saying Eva is very good looking. She's pretty but nothing special.
Regarding Shani, that's EXACTLY what I was thinking. Multiple people mentioned she had a spinner type of body and she clearly doesn't. Can anyone else confirm this?
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[QUOTE=TDLeafs;6202466]LOL, Rozel's cheating on her hub already? Wonder what she wanted.
I can guess what Reah wants since she was into one brand only.[/QUOTE]I knew Rozel got married to some guy. A previous client? I always wanted to ask what would compel a guy who would legally wife up someone who was in this line of work. This guy sounds like he has the means to find something (subjectively) better.
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[QUOTE=TDLeafs;6202466]LOL, Rozel's cheating on her hub already? Wonder what she wanted.
I can guess what Reah wants since she was into one brand only.[/QUOTE]Hermes lmao. Her in agent provacateur -- chef's kiss.
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Reah
Survey how many would marry Rear if they could? I'll be the first one who else
[QUOTE=Loafy;6203304]Hermes lmao. Her in agent provacateur -- chef's kiss.[/QUOTE].