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[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7082168]Kat is, in fact, a lesbian. Had to pay a friend back via Venmo and I realized that's how I paid her and found her government name (not "Kat") and looked her up on social media. She is a masculine leaning lesbian with possibly a current girlfriend not quite sure as the last pic of them together is in 2023. She has some rougher pics of her looking more masculine but then she has some pretty decent pics of her dolled up too which she looks absolutely fuckable. Looks like she lost quite a bit of wait over the past 10-15 years too. She's thin now though.

I don't know, that makes the experience even better to me LOL. I always love a lesbian so desperate, they decide to take dick to get what they need. But that's just me.

So-Crates.[/QUOTE]That is so damn awesome dude! And it likely explains some stuff, like why she was worried about her roommate.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7082470]There is no longer a spot to put a discount code in on SA, you have to wait until they give you an offer. I am currently at 20% when 33% was always my go to.[/QUOTE]Tried upgrading on SA with a Visa Vanilla gift card and was declined. Is there a better card to use? Read on another post that SA will no longer accept visa vanilla gift cards. Just seeing what pre-paid card works the best.

Well, I'm fine with gifting (very!) modestly for M&Gs. And I often take them to dinner if the timing works out. You learn a lot about a girl if you take them to a nice restaurant -- and most of 'them have never been to anyplace really nice.

Some of them get obviously weirded out by it or just as obviously don't know how to behave in that situation. Which can be fun to watch and at least for me tells me a lot about whether I'll want to fuck them and put up with their shit. Also, I've had several basically throw themselves at me after taking them someplace nicer than anybody had ever taken them before.

In the worst case I got to have a nice dinner with a pretty girl. Win win and no biggie if it doesn't turn into fucking her later that night. Lots of other girls out there. And also from a practical standpoint at least for me if a hot girl can behave properly in a nice restaurant and not make an ass out of herself in the process she can be useful to me even if I don't want to fuck her.

You'd be shocked how few of them actually can manage it.

First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.

Is this good pricing?

[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.

Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]If you think it's good than it's good. If she's slamming hot, maybe. If she's your typical PNW pudge than no for me.

[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.

Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]On SA if she wants more than 500 it's just a girl with GPS and not worth it.

[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.

Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]Typical first timer experience is guys get FOMO and will agree to anything. I'm assuming you didn't negotiate at all and she will want you to pay her as soon as you meet in person. And it won't go for that long. She's knows she will get $700 for 20-40 minutes of you pumping into her and however long before and after dealing with awkward attempts at conversation, LOL.

Seriously, though. Make sure you're vetting her as best you can. A lot of women on there that are excellent communicators are manipulative and just selling an experience. Make sure you're getting what you want from it. It's YOUR cash they want, not the other way around. Remember they've fucked plenty of guys for zero dollars before, don't buy into the GPS.

All my arrangements have been 500 for half day or even overnight where we have fun (a couple of finishes) and dinner at evening and she also takes care of morning wood before we go out for breakfast.

[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.

Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;7084649]All my arrangements have been 500 for half day or even overnight where we have fun (a couple of finishes) and dinner at evening and she also takes care of morning wood before we go out for breakfast.[/QUOTE]You sounds just like my buddy in Vegas. He keeps a SB on him for a year at a time. Been with her for more than a year. He does the same, breakfast lunch and dinner. They go different places and all kinds of things. I joke with him every now and then that he's in a relationship and "when's the wedding? But I know he only kicks her back $300 at a time and takes care of everything they do.

It's a good setup if you got the initial investment and patience for it. I imagine hanging out with them gets less expensive even but I just got stand these women past post-nut clarity. "Get the fuck on!" Is my equivalent to immediately closing all of my PH windows in disgust on my laptop after I'm done.

It all boils down to the time you get out of it. If she is asking for 700 for an hour of play or less, hell no it's not worth it. If she's talking half-full day of hanging out and playing, it gets a bit more palatable.

So-Crates.

Excellent advice, thanks. I'll browse around a bit.

If anyone is experienced with this, appreciate it if we can have a chat to discuss dos / don'ts. My DM is open.

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7084670]You sounds just like my buddy in Vegas. He keeps a SB on him for a year at a time. Been with her for more than a year. He does the same, breakfast lunch and dinner. They go different places and all kinds of things. I joke with him every now and then that he's in a relationship and "when's the wedding? But I know he only kicks her back $300 at a time and takes care of everything they do.

It's a good setup if you got the initial investment and patience for it. I imagine hanging out with them gets less expensive even but I just got stand these women past post-nut clarity. "Get the fuck on!" Is my equivalent to immediately closing all of my PH windows in disgust on my laptop after I'm done.

It all boils down to the time you get out of it. If she is asking for 700 for an hour of play or less, hell no it's not worth it. If she's talking half-full day of hanging out and playing, it gets a bit more palatable.

So-Crates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.

Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]Too pricey. My latest addition is a 28 Ukranian college graduate, gorgeous. 4 hrs of fucking for 400. Every now and then I take her to a good restaurant before the fuckfest

[QUOTE=PnwSummers;7083920]First time and first catch on SA. Communication is excellent and $700 for a 4 - 5 hour meet.

Is this good pricing?[/QUOTE]Aka the guys giving advice to show their work! Haha.

One may set the price but the other sets the terms! There's shit at 1 k and 300. Let us know how it goes.

It comes down to give time to my body to recharge and shoot again. I'm no spring chicken. When I was younger I was able to do 3 shots in an hour.

Also, women give better sex when you let them feel is not so transactional and more like between friends.

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7084670]You sounds just like my buddy in Vegas. He keeps a SB on him for a year at a time. Been with her for more than a year. He does the same, breakfast lunch and dinner. They go different places and all kinds of things. I joke with him every now and then that he's in a relationship and "when's the wedding? But I know he only kicks her back $300 at a time and takes care of everything they do.

It's a good setup if you got the initial investment and patience for it. I imagine hanging out with them gets less expensive even but I just got stand these women past post-nut clarity. "Get the fuck on!" Is my equivalent to immediately closing all of my PH windows in disgust on my laptop after I'm done.

It all boils down to the time you get out of it. If she is asking for 700 for an hour of play or less, hell no it's not worth it. If she's talking half-full day of hanging out and playing, it gets a bit more palatable.

So-Crates.[/QUOTE]

In general if you are just looking for a warm hole to deposit your seed into the sugar world isn't either cost or time efficient.

On the other hand if you are looking for a total freak who you can also hang out with and watch netflix or go out for drinks or get stoned or go on a road trip with your best option and very best return on investment is the sugar bowl.

My own experience is that the very best deals and options are divorced or separated moms who have a job but are both lonely and also a bit tight on money. For me at least the very best have been over 25 and sometimes over 35. Second best are juniors or seniors in college.

Younger girls are inexperienced and naive and much more likely to have serious GPS, obnoxious entitlement, and be total flakes.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7085636]In general if you are just looking for a warm hole to deposit your seed into the sugar world isn't either cost or time efficient.

On the other hand if you are looking for a total freak who you can also hang out with and watch netflix or go out for drinks or get stoned or go on a road trip with your best option and very best return on investment is the sugar bowl.

My own experience is that the very best deals and options are divorced or separated moms who have a job but are both lonely and also a bit tight on money. For me at least the very best have been over 25 and sometimes over 35. Second best are juniors or seniors in college.

Younger girls are inexperienced and naive and much more likely to have serious GPS, obnoxious entitlement, and be total flakes.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself. Divorced late 30's to early / mid 40's are my bread and butter. Although I just found one on SA who is a college student (dropped her off at her dorm a couple nights ago) and she is new to the site so there are hidden gems but you really can't go wrong with the older divorced tight on cash demographic.

So-Crates.