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[QUOTE=KingOfNuts;7090275]This was an
Arab chick I saw in the beginning of the year. I'm sure she probably got arrested again. Has anyone seen her recently? I attached a couple of her photos to jog anyone's memory.[/QUOTE]" She was visiting her uncle for 6 mths. She is back now, she messaged me said she dained 40 lbs, she probably looks good now. I would imagine she is back on it again, see her now before she looses weight again. She is a decent provider. ".
Does anyone has a report for this one?
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/178577028[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrWho;7090790]For her rate she should stand on her head and spin!
Saw her many times before GPS for half what she wants now.[/QUOTE]The South Florida market has changed. The influx of wealthy folks to Florida who pay whatever has caused this.
I don't think Katie has GPS at all. She held out at lower rates for a long time, but clearly, she has a right to get what the market allows, and she has always been relatively busy.
It has been a while since I've seen her, but I am less active and always searching for the next best BJ.
I would certainly recommend her to those who have not seen her yet. Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Pappy2;7092077]The South Florida market has changed. The influx of wealthy folks to Florida who pay whatever has caused this.
I don't think Katie has GPS at all. She held out at lower rates for a long time, but clearly, she has a right to get what the market allows, and she has always been relatively busy.
It has been a while since I've seen her, but I am less active and always searching for the next best BJ.
I would certainly recommend her to those who have not seen her yet. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Allow me to rephrase, ANY provider would need to stand on their and spin for me to fork out that kind of cabbage, more of a tongue in cheek remark. More power to her and any other provider, it is a free market, get what one can get. I can say that when I did see Katie I had an amazing time, but then she priced herself out of my budget and I had to move on. I also would highly recommend her to anyone who's budget she fit into. Value is in the eye of the consumer.
Same thing happened with Skye from AE many moons ago. She went indi and we saw each other for about 2 years regularly. She hiked her rates and I could not afford her. No hard feelings, I wished her well and moved on, it's business. But to this day if she popped up again as a friend I would welcome her, she was an incredible person.
It takes a lot of searching, but I have found unicorns for a reasonable rate. It may be because those are the ones who understand the value of repeat business and realize that I like getting to know the likes of my playmate and develop a rapport where we both enjoy our time together. But in the end when $ is involved, it is business, not charity.
Called her to set up the incall. Easy to find location in Davie.
Opted for the hour rate of 2 coins. Pics are accurate and she is really sweet. Spanish is needed to effectively communicate with her. Everything is covered gents.
Loves getting it hard and she allows MSOG.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/178565221[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pappy2;7092077]The South Florida market has changed. The influx of wealthy folks to Florida who pay whatever has caused this.[/QUOTE]Geez, don't get me started on this topic. If it was socially allowed, I could write an entire book on the subject. In a way the provider market is similar to the housing market. Someone renovates their house to get a higher selling price, now everyone on the block thinks their house is suddenly worth 40% more.
Weirdly enough, I don't mind the slight uptick in prices as much as the drastic nosedive in quality. SWs get a phone and a manager and now they think they can garner $$ for a QV. Hoodrats with a failed OF page and a NO list the size of a phone book are charging EROS prices. And my personal pet peeve, the "car date"
Sadly, there are enough simps and white knights to overpay for their crappy service while singing their praises in the review sections because they think it will curry favor.
[QUOTE=Sarge572;7092623]Geez, don't get me started on this topic. If it was socially allowed, I could write an entire book on the subject. In a way the provider market is similar to the housing market. Someone renovates their house to get a higher selling price, now everyone on the block thinks their house is suddenly worth 40% more.
Weirdly enough, I don't mind the slight uptick in prices as much as the drastic nosedive in quality. SWs get a phone and a manager and now they think they can garner $$ for a QV. Hoodrats with a failed OF page and a NO list the size of a phone book are charging EROS prices. And my personal pet peeve, the "car date"
Sadly, there are enough simps and white knights to overpay for their crappy service while singing their praises in the review sections because they think it will curry favor.[/QUOTE]Spot on sir. This is the era of UTR. There have been wealthy people here forever. The sudden influx has been street walkers who consider themselves escorts. IE listcrawler.
That fucking website has been a shit stain on the hobby. IMHO, LC and the associated sites should have their own section like streetwalkers. Its not escorting. I have no interest in your 15 minute date with a zombie while she was hitting the pipe.
I have been fortunate to have a small stable of UTRs who are reliable and reasonable. I'll sunset out of the hobby with those ladies. Its time for me to retire soon anyways.
[QUOTE=Driver63;7091923]" She was visiting her uncle for 6 mths. She is back now, she messaged me said she dained 40 lbs, she probably looks good now. I would imagine she is back on it again, see her now before she looses weight again. She is a decent provider. ".[/QUOTE]Can confirm the weight gain. She actually has a little ass on her now, nothing ceaY but it looks good on her frame. Haven't seen her this healthy looking in years. Decent girl for pump and dump, get in before it goes downhill, because it's definitely coming.
[QUOTE=Juan287;7092499]Called her to set up the incall. Easy to find location in Davie.
Opted for the hour rate of 2 coins. Pics are accurate and she is really sweet. Spanish is needed to effectively communicate with her. Everything is covered gents.
Loves getting it hard and she allows MSOG.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/178565221[/URL][/QUOTE]Took a chance with this provider since she was at Palm beach. $.50 for 30 minutes. Place was a bit shady.
She looks just like the pictures, gave her the donation and everything was covered. She started with a lackluster CBJ, then K9. 15 minutes past and she starts rushing me. Went downhill from there as I couldn't finish. Got my things and left.
[QUOTE=Sarge572;7092623]Weirdly enough, I don't mind the slight uptick in prices as much as the drastic nosedive in quality. SWs get a phone and a manager and now they think they can garner $$ for a QV. Hoodrats with a failed OF page and a NO list the size of a phone book are charging EROS prices. And my personal pet peeve, the "car date"
Sadly, there are enough simps and white knights to overpay for their crappy service while singing their praises in the review sections because they think it will curry favor.[/QUOTE]OMG. You hit the nail on the head!
I have been hobbying for over 30 years, ever since becoming a single parent and focusing my efforts on him. No time for "relationships", but now I am spoiled. Lately I feel like the old guy saying "in my day". LOL Social media has been a major factor on the hobby, but the largest change I have seen is the huge influx of Latino providers with GPS. If I had a dollar for every ad that listed NO GFE, NO BBBJ, NO KISSING, NO DATY, NO FUN I would be retired by now. And what is it with the giant fake asses! Bait & switch has also gotten out of hand, it seems like 80% of ads are B&S. Then we have those who advert outcall (and list an upcharge) but never reply when asked. Outcall used to be the norm and incall was often an upcharge. I have come to the conclusion the most outcall adverts are just to get the ad out there more and in only a last resort when incalls dip. It also seems that when the indiboard went down SoFla became the wild west.
The uptick in rates is to be expected over time. And even though I am one who enjoys developing a friendship/sudo relationship with a provider for comfort and sharing, this IS a business and that part must be kept separate. Too many see a provider as a GF and suck up. Being nice and kind is one thing, being gullible is just stupid. But that has always been part of the biz and a tool for providers. We must be aware and remember.
[QUOTE=CoolBreeze99;7092682]This is the era of UTR.
I have been fortunate to have a small stable of UTRs who are reliable and reasonable. I'll sunset out of the hobby with those ladies. Its time for me to retire soon anyways.[/QUOTE]Any tips on how one can create there own stable of UTR's?
[QUOTE=LofterB;7093222]Any tips on how one can create there own stable of UTR's?[/QUOTE]#1, get out of the south Floriduh bubble. There is plenty of good info on here on how other states, cities scene is currently moving. I've been at this 25 years and even this year I am learning about new websites where action can be had.
#2, YMMV. I can't tell you how many times I've read negative reviews on here on massage girls on here that were deemed "legit" or "GPS" that I was balls deep BBFS in within 2 booked sessions. Hygiene and not being an asshole can make a huge difference. I laugh sometimes when I read reviews of a girl who was an ocean of no's. I wonder, did the guy even bother to shower or brush his teeth? Was his place clean? Did he have a floating turd in his toilet? Cause, that pretty girl came to my place and rocked my world.
#3 Network. Find a like minded monger who isn't a LC chaser and ask where his latest unicorn was found. It could be a sugar site, a cuddle site, a strip club or a "legit" massage site. Chances are, if the guy isn't a piece of shit, his info is accurate, and as long as you're not a dick, you stand a chance of getting good service from a clean, drama free provider.
[QUOTE=LofterB;7093222]Any tips on how one can create there own stable of UTR's?[/QUOTE]Dancers are an option. Seeking can work but you sometimes need dinners maybe dropping $ to get know them without results. At the clerb, you can get to know them and take a test run. You get to see exactly what they look like and how they respond. And there are endless targets.
And coming ready showered looking good to the clerb helps. Don't show up from work with the shop clothes still on.
[QUOTE=About;7093545]Dancers are an option. Seeking can work but you sometimes need dinners maybe dropping $ to get know them without results. At the clerb, you can get to know them and take a test run. You get to see exactly what they look like and how they respond. And there are endless targets.
And coming ready showered looking good to the clerb helps. Don't show up from work with the shop clothes still on.[/QUOTE]Always negotiate with dancers. If they offer 6, chances are their standard price is 4 or 5. Also find out if its CBJ or BBJ. Most dancers today are CBJ, which is a no go for me.
[QUOTE=CoolBreeze99;7093456]#1, get out of the south Floriduh bubble. There is plenty of good info on here on how other states, cities scene is currently moving. I've been at this 25 years and even this year I am learning about new websites where action can be had.
#2, YMMV. I can't tell you how many times I've read negative reviews on here on massage girls on here that were deemed "legit" or "GPS" that I was balls deep BBFS in within 2 booked sessions. Hygiene and not being an asshole can make a huge difference. I laugh sometimes when I read reviews of a girl who was an ocean of no's. I wonder, did the guy even bother to shower or brush his teeth? Was his place clean? Did he have a floating turd in his toilet? Cause, that pretty girl came to my place and rocked my world.
#3 Network. Find a like minded monger who isn't a LC chaser and ask where his latest unicorn was found. It could be a sugar site, a cuddle site, a strip club or a "legit" massage site. Chances are, if the guy isn't a piece of shit, his info is accurate, and as long as you're not a dick, you stand a chance of getting good service from a clean, drama free provider.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel I thought dudes were going to a run down Burger King or checkers and offering the girls at the drive through to hook up or something, wasn't sure where to start. The only point I want to ask a bit more info on is #1 when you say get out of the South Florida Bubble do you mean forum wise or physically?