Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Yeah, I hear you. I haven't been as active as I would have liked. I look for girls with a specific skill set. The online girls understand better than some of the locals I have met, but I'm still hoping that one of my choices here will soon pay off. Be careful with the cam sites, tho. I had been visiting one regularly. Then one day I went to the bank (to withdraw some roses to go see Delicious Dawn) and discovered my CC had been hacked. Whoever it was got almost 500 in different increments. Lots of hassle to fill out the forms to get it back.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3266106]So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.

I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.

Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?

I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3266106]So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.

I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.

Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?

I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.[/QUOTE]I understand what your saying. But for me its more like, I hate showing up to a dream and the girl in not very attractive, and I'm supposed to spend cash on someone I wouldn't even buy a drink at a club or bar. Because we gentelman have a different idea of what hot, sexy and beautiful is. I've spent a lot of time in strip club and had countless great times because I know what I'm getting or trying to. But it does suck when your walking out to the car and think, what a waste of time and money. Thank goodness for busty red, and a few utr that I have. OBR.

[QUOTE=LookingFun1;3266891]Haven't seen velvet on here in awhile, anyone know if she's ok? Have seen a few times and always had fun feel free to pm.[/QUOTE]She has an ad up. I just sent her a pm and hope to re-review her excellent skillset.

LM.

All providers reading this contact me immediately was contacted by someone with verysick fantasy as a mother I was extremely sick and offended please help me stop this monster.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3266510]Maybe I need to go to sexaholics anonymous. I'll check into it as soon as I see this last lady. HL29.[/QUOTE]LOL there HL. It's always just one more.

GB.

[QUOTE=SayWhat719;3270020]Recently learned spouse is a lifelong hobbyist. Lookin for advice on how to cope. Leaving isn't an option.[/QUOTE]Something is missing in the relationship, mental or physical maybe both. Communicate without words and see what changes follow.

I cannot stress enough how important reference checks are thru are designed to keep us safe and peace of mind do not just tell me the guy is ok just to get me off your back for instance I sent a reference check out to several providers and realized I had sent wrong number before I could correct it I get an ok hes good guy text wow that is dangerous and has led ne to not trusting said providers so please for us all if you have seen him be honest if not just say so.

OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.

I always give an hour for communication. She may of been in another appointment. Personally, I won't see a girl unless I'm first that day. Chances are slim if making that appointment that late in the afternoon.

I would call her on her bullshit though. If she didn't respond, there is no appointment. She may of thought she had your money in the bank already but by not saying yes, she has nothing to block you for.

To flip it completely, you have the money, you should block her and call her out. That's bad business.

[QUOTE=FMichaels4533;3274350]OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FMichaels4533;3274350]OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]I'm with you in this topic. I understand not getting back to someone because your busy or just need time off. Thats fine. But if you do make contact stay with it until a time is set. Don't disappear for an hour and think I'm going to wait, we don't always have lots of time to play. So our time is valuable too. We read every day of no shows, crickets when we arrive, plenty of wasting our time. So lady's you must understand this is about service, our experience starts with the first text or call we send. If it was easy set up or a pain in the ass? Is how most reviews start. And the last thing we want to do is show up pissed off because you made it diffaucult to see you. This is supposed to be easy, quick and convenient for we the customer. It's a service we look for.

If she's mad, she mad because she messed up, not you! $ lost, is money lost. It took me 5 hr to get to see someone Sunday morning, well 2:30 in the afternoon. Being stood up by Brooklyn Marie, I know I went bottom feeding, LOL but I went through all of my favorites and no respones until hours laters. And I should say thank to Lexi for making time for me. Bottom line to me is my time is as valuable as much as the Ben Franklins in my pocket. If your services lady's is good enough you will get neither. Be safe OBR.

[QUOTE=FMichaels4533;3274350]OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]This doesn't require a providers input! You inquired about a 4 pm appointment, in order for that to work it is more than obvious that a reply is needed much sooner than 4 to allow for travel time. I call bullshit on this one and out her for acting so BS. You should have gotten a reply by 3:40 ish most likely to make it work. If you would be so kind as to PM me her name so I know not to waste my time with her. Thanks.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;3266106]So, back in December, I started to be pretty broke. That caused me to stop hobbying. After a few weeks out, I started to think to myself things like, "What were you thinking? Why were you doing that?" I thought I had quit.

I returned to just jerking off to porn. But then, as the days passed, porn got boring again. So I started going to cam sites. I like when I can throw a few tokens at a girl and she responds. It's like a step up from porn.

Of course, for the past few days, my brain has started up: "Why spend money to see some girl's tits on your computer, when you can fuck hot girls anytime you want?

I guess I'm wondering if other people go through "cycles" with the hobby. Or if I just get lost in my head too much.[/QUOTE]When a marriage goes bland, it's hard to get away from this game and I'll tell you why. I've had great regulars over the years, some which even enjoyed my company so much that they stopped charging me. I've had relationship with women who aren't providers but that never goes anywhere. Have you ever hooked up with a civilian girl and found her to be a really lame fuck? LOL. That's because not all women can fuck like a skilled escort. We are always looking for the next best thing is the way I see it. There's a certain rush or excitement when you open that door to see a brand new girl. I've paid a donation to see a new girl while I had a civilian girl texting me wanting dick. It's a strange game man, just know your not alone when you begin to think, "what the fuck am I doing"?

[QUOTE=FMichaels4533;3274350]OK, I need a provider's input here. I recently tried to set an appointment with a girl (won't say who since she's already pissed at me). I texted to see if she was available that afternoon. She said yes. I texted back to see if we could meet in an hour at 4 pm. I was on a time crunch and couldn't wait forever. Anyway, I waited 45 minutes and got no confirmation on the time. Assuming I'd been blown off and running out of time to see someone, I contacted EE and was able to make an appointment. While I was on my way to my appointment, I got a text from the first girl asking if I was ready. (it was now about 4:20) I apologized for the confusion and told her that when she didn't confirm the time I made other arrangements. I got a very sarcastic text back informing me I was blocked. I'm confused. How long does a client need to reasonably wait before giving up? I figured 45 minutes was plenty. Thanks for any inputs. Stay Safe.[/QUOTE]From what I read, you are totally in the right. You inquired about an appointment. You did not receive a reply to confirm anything. You did not know where to go. You waited a fair amount of time and then decided to seek other entertainment because lady #1 did not reply to your inquiry. You went and spent your discretionary income elsewhere.

A lot of these women think that their shit doesn't stink and that we should be honored to have sex with them. That philosophy works ONLY if they are having sex with us for FREE. They have the pussy, but WE have the money.

If what you had described had happened to me, I would have simply texted / said "You did not reply in a timely fashion so I thought you were occupied and I found someone who was available. " This is a business. Yes we all have providers that we also like personally or even are our friends, but they aren't our wives, girlfriends or Civie FWBs. We pay them for their attention. They don't have any claim on us.

The woman who FINALLY contacted you 20 minutes after the requested time deserves to be put on your personal Banned list. Her attitude shows immaturity and naivete as to how to gain customers and win regulars. If she had been understanding, maybe even a little flirtatious when you said you had found someone else, she would have garnered your interest and you MIGHT have called her again when you had the urge. All she did is alienate a customer.

[QUOTE=Twisted69;3274475]This doesn't require a providers input! You inquired about a 4 pm appointment, in order for that to work it is more than obvious that a reply is needed much sooner than 4 to allow for travel time. I call bullshit on this one and out her for acting so BS. You should have gotten a reply by 3:40 ish most likely to make it work. If you would be so kind as to PM me her name so I know not to waste my time with her. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Consensus. If you aren't hearing from them 20 -30 minutes beforehand, forget it. It's called common courtesy, of which some people are obviously lacking.

[QUOTE=BTBear;3274517]From what I read, you are totally in the right. You inquired about an appointment. You did not receive a reply to confirm anything. You did not know where to go. You waited a fair amount of time and then decided to seek other entertainment because lady #1 did not reply to your inquiry. You went and spent your discretionary income elsewhere.

A lot of these women think that their shit doesn't stink and that we should be honored to have sex with them. That philosophy works ONLY if they are having sex with us for FREE. They have the pussy, but WE have the money.

If what you had described had happened to me, I would have simply texted / said "You did not reply in a timely fashion so I thought you were occupied and I found someone who was available. " This is a business. Yes we all have providers that we also like personally or even are our friends, but they aren't our wives, girlfriends or Civie FWBs. We pay them for their attention. They don't have any claim on us.

The woman who FINALLY contacted you 20 minutes after the requested time deserves to be put on your personal Banned list. Her attitude shows immaturity and naivete as to how to gain customers and win regulars. If she had been understanding, maybe even a little flirtatious when you said you had found someone else, she would have garnered your interest and you MIGHT have called her again when you had the urge. All she did is alienate a customer.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you said but I believe the power is in the pussy. Read the sexual addiction thread or how long can you go without the Pussy. Now we can chose where to spend the money but the forum is full of stories of providers who give poor service but even after 2-3 times ofbeing treated poorly mongers still give them another chance. Try fucking your money, not much satisfaction in that. You or I may not give a bad provider another chance but they really don't care for most part. Some monger will always pay them. Power is in the pussy, hence the term pussywhipped.