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[QUOTE=Mexidutch;2149031]Any recent reports on the upsells at MD's? I visited once a few months ago and they were unrealistic.[/QUOTE]I saw her earlier this week. She gives a great massage but the upsell is too high. She wanted 100.00 tip for a topless ending. Will never repeat at East-West again.
[QUOTE=CapAugieNemo;2149066]Was in the mood about a week ago for a massage, and stopped by the Oasis hoping for a better time then the last several years ago. I guess some things don't age well. I drew Katie a white woman in her thirties maybe older. Mediocre massage, mediocre happy ending, upsell for the ending and more if I wanted to see her naked.
I guess I won't be stopping back for another couple of years as there are better places to spend money.[/QUOTE]Call ahead and asked for Lexi. She has massage skills and strong hands! Casually mentions tip as she flips, but no specifics and provide stellar handshake! If you see her more than one time she remembers you and mentions nothing on flip! YMMV.
[QUOTE=OrdinaryJo;2138020][URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/body-pleaser-27/15945315[/URL]
See link above. She is located in Wyoming.[/QUOTE]Val looks and sounds very nice. I see she's posting in the Escort section now but couldn't find any other details. Is she full service or can you at least dream of a good BJ?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Mexidutch;2149031]Any recent reports on the upsells at MD's? I visited once a few months ago and they were unrealistic.[/QUOTE]I have been to mama's severl times since they opened.
First 2 time was with Annie, in my opinion, Annie gives a GREAT massage. On the first visit the flip was pretty good. The second visit. . let's just say she was VERY excited for the flip. And didn't disappoint.
Saw Malory 2 times as well, massage was ok, but kinda hurried. Flip was good.
Saw Julie twice last week, I enjoy her massage, and her company. The flip is great!
Annie = no major upsell.
Mallory = no major upsell.
Julie = a bit of an upsell, not bad in my opinion.
All visits were $60 for the hour and $40 for the tip.
Quick report on Adrianna at Panacea before I forget. She is a very sweet girl, petite and pretty. She is not your loud sexy type, but plays more cute and innocent. The massage was great, so great that I fell asleep even though the massage table is a table with a sheet on it. On the flip, she got very comfortable, and spent 10-15 minutes on the massage before the HE. She allowed nice roaming. When I am stressed, she will probably be my "go to" girl.
[QUOTE=Lakeshore1;2149771]I have been to mama's severl times since they opened.
First 2 time was with Annie, in my opinion, Annie gives a GREAT massage. On the first visit the flip was pretty good. The second visit. . let's just say she was VERY excited for the flip. And didn't disappoint.
Saw Malory 2 times as well, massage was ok, but kinda hurried. Flip was good.
Saw Julie twice last week, I enjoy her massage, and her company. The flip is great!
Annie = no major upsell.
Mallory = no major upsell.
Julie = a bit of an upsell, not bad in my opinion.
All visits were $60 for the hour and $40 for the tip.[/QUOTE]Thank you for a great first post! This should be a model first post for all newbies. Instead of begging for info, you jumped right in. Welcome to the board!
I've seen Adrianna once. I thought she was too quiet and awkward. I personally wouldn't repeat with her. My two favorites there are Natasha and Natalie. I haven't seen Lesley yet, but she looks hot too.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/panacea-is-back-open-clean-and-ready-to-relax-you-26/14127495[/URL]
[QUOTE=Donntee;2151000]Quick report on Adrianna at Panacea before I forget. She is a very sweet girl, petite and pretty. She is not your loud sexy type, but plays more cute and innocent. The massage was great, so great that I fell asleep even though the massage table is a table with a sheet on it. On the flip, she got very comfortable, and spent 10-15 minutes on the massage before the HE. She allowed nice roaming. When I am stressed, she will probably be my "go to" girl.[/QUOTE]
I've seen Lesley within the last couple of weeks and she is very attractive. Lets put it this way: she's a good fit for Panacea. She provided the same good massage, good flip as people have become accustomed to there. I would repeat. Of course I normally like girls a little more voluptuous and she's definitely not that but still nice.
[QUOTE=MikeYepthatsm;2151236]I've seen Adrianna once. I thought she was too quiet and awkward. I personally wouldn't repeat with her. My two favorites there are Natasha and Natalie. I haven't seen Lesley yet, but she looks hot too.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/panacea-is-back-open-clean-and-ready-to-relax-you-26/14127495[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Donntee;2151004]Thank you for a great first post! This should be a model first post for all newbies. Instead of begging for info, you jumped right in. Welcome to the board![/QUOTE]Agree! Thanks for the great feedback on Mama Dee's. Her ads would be a little more helpful if she included the names of all the girls in the pics!
[QUOTE=Doyle30;2138595]Interesting. Right next to the truck stop too. I might give it a couple weeks then try.[/QUOTE]Went there this afternoon, since my back was sore all over from yard work. Good massage, and like someone else mentioned, some teasing around down there, but no action to be had, although she did try to encourage me to take matters into my own hands, which I didn't do since I was pretty relaxed from the massage and couldn't be bothered (must be getting old I guess). Pretty girls (not hot but decent), good rub. I'll go back for their legit service, but looking for extras seems to be a waste of time.
[QUOTE=Donntee;2151004]Thank you for a great first post! This should be a model first post for all newbies. Instead of begging for info, you jumped right in. Welcome to the board![/QUOTE]If an accurate report all others are very much the opposite, I personally texted a cpl of the gals for rates and 40 $ wasnt on there radar name on post makes you wonder, just sayin.
[QUOTE=Grjack72;2151488]Went there this afternoon, since my back was sore all over from yard work. Good massage, and like someone else mentioned, some teasing around down there, but no action to be had, although she did try to encourage me to take matters into my own hands, which I didn't do since I was pretty relaxed from the massage and couldn't be bothered (must be getting old I guess). Pretty girls (not hot but decent), good rub. I'll go back for their legit service, but looking for extras seems to be a waste of time.[/QUOTE]I can echo this, although no sleep. I was there a week ago- I am wondering if with the teasing they will be opening their menu more. I tried to work it as well, but no luck. I might try back in a few months. I just have a hard time thinking the menu won't be opening up.
[QUOTE=Mexidutch;2149031]Any recent reports on the upsells at MD's? I visited once a few months ago and they were unrealistic.[/QUOTE]Had the pleasure five or six times there. Nikki, very nice sweet younger gal (well, younger than me at least), terrific figure, very good ms, very little tease, but a good ending. No mention of upsell whatsoever. Mikki, pretty much the same, no upsell. I actually like Dee's ms. She's a little older, but great ms, great teasing, and great ending. She did mention about wanting a big tip a few times, but whenever they do that I just say I always tip, and never let them pin me down. Seems to work. Went the full time with each session, although I made a sutle hint that on the hour sessions, that getting close to a full hour would be nice.
Whoever has been talking about the so-called new and improved Rainbow Spa is either mistaken or I went there on the wrong night and got the wrong provider because there was no fun to be had. All I got was a massage which I must admit was quite relaxing and therapeutic and absolutely nothing more! I am officially done with Rainbow Spa. Fuck that place!
[QUOTE=DjBiker;2151514]If an accurate report all others are very much the opposite, I personally texted a cpl of the gals for rates and 40 $ wasnt on there radar name on post makes you wonder, just sayin.[/QUOTE]I posted MY experiences. YMMV. .
I have NEVER discussed a tip with the aforementioned girls. All tip discussion was after the massage.
[QUOTE=Doyle30;2151730]I can echo this, although no sleep. I was there a week ago- I am wondering if with the teasing they will be opening their menu more. I tried to work it as well, but no luck. I might try back in a few months. I just have a hard time thinking the menu won't be opening up.[/QUOTE]I went to this new Asian place off the highway / truck stop place the other day too. I concur, no crank yank but some teasing, for sure. The masseuse had a low cut skirt revealing some nice legs. My hands were sticking out of the massage table and I gave them a good squeeze and said, "nice legs!" She politely said thank you. At one point the owner came into the room. Asked me how I like massage. I said very well. I was laying there fully naked, and she got a look at every inch of me. And she came up and gave my back and tush a good rub and pat, commenting on how much she liked my skin. She said she had to leave, and I gave her my credit card.
Back to the massage:
On the flip, masseuse (Lucy) smashed her tits into my face, fully clothed. But still. I lay there loving it, giving a good moan to show her I approved. But when the time came for HE, nothing. Nada. I was a little disappointed. I thought for sure it was going to happen. Well, maybe next time. I don't know. I say keep trying fellas. And report back when something out of the ordinary happens. Like others have said, it's only a matter of time before a menu opens up, maybe.
[QUOTE=Lakeshore1;2151914]I posted MY experiences. YMMV. .
I have NEVER discussed a tip with the aforementioned girls. All tip discussion was after the massage.[/QUOTE]I've seen 5 different ladies from East West / Mamma Dees and have never discussed how much I'm going to Tip until after the massage. I have been asked on the flip if I'm a Tipper, to which I reply YES! I always do an hour and never Tip more than. 40. I do know that the Ladies give out their numbers so we can call for an appointment. They figure guys that call / text for other reasons are wasting their time or stalker types.
Weird, it's same as it was. I was just there. I have hit a few of the usual joints and they were all biz as usual.
[QUOTE=JeffMcthrustr;2151769]Whoever has been talking about the so-called new and improved Rainbow Spa is either mistaken or I went there on the wrong night and got the wrong provider because there was no fun to be had. All I got was a massage which I must admit was quite relaxing and therapeutic and absolutely nothing more! I am officially done with Rainbow Spa. Fuck that place![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GMacMan;1723230]I have found this an interesting question as well, regarding tipping. When guys say here they tip $40 or more for a hh. That's $80 for a HE. You can go to BP and get an hh special with several providers for the same price and full service at that! So, why would someone pay $80 for a HE when they could get more for the same price? I just don't see it justified in paying so much for a HE when the FS market prices are generally falling. Is there some other justification to continue to pay so much for a HE? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]For me, its about the buildup. Having a beautiful girl rub me all over and tease me in a clean, safe environment is worth it. I have had quickie visits with BP providers that charge $80 and its all over so quick and usually in a very dirty (not in a sexy way) environment. A massage parlor is a great alternative to mix things up a bit. And once you find your favorite, you always have a "go to" and know what to expect.
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[QUOTE=ElJudoka;2142958]I was looking for a good rub down and maybe a little more. My main objective was to have someone relieve the tension in my back and work on my sore hamstrings. I had read that Linda gave an amazing massage so I called Pacific (on 44th) and set up an hour appointment. I wasn't sure what to expect in the looks department, having never seen her before (let me say that I am spoiled with the "new" Lin). Lets put it this way, when I say her I didn't go WOW! But I didn't feel like leaving either. Reminded myself that I was there for the massage. When I scheduled I asked to use the sauna before the massage (which is one thing I like about this place). I sat in the sauna for 15 minutes took a shower and headed back to the room. It was a bit warm out and they did not have air (at least not on) so Linda opened the window to let in some fresh air. The conversation was just right, not too chatty. Let me tell you her hands are amazing. I could have laid under her spell for hours. She did mention that it was a little warm in the room (we were upstairs) so I suggested that she take off some close (she just laughed and nothing came off). My entire body felt totally relaxed. Hands down the best massage I have had. She never asked for a tip (I hate when they start off by asking if I will be tipping). The other plus, she made it a point to give me the entire hour. If you are looking for a good massage I think Linda is your gal. We did seem to hit if off. I did leave happy and relaxed. I will be repeating with her but first I need to visit Lin again. If only I had unlimited funds![/QUOTE]How is the HE with linda? I am looking for at least a BJ, not looking for piv now, still scared of diseases out there. How much BTW is the half and full hour. Looking forward for the sauna.
Any review on Serenity? How are the massage and of course the looks. A review says Camille is Puerto Rican or Filipino? Do they have HE? HE is a must for me.
Looking for a little more, never had much luck in any of the massage places with more than a handshake. Seems like most often a handshake, nude or partially clothed has been available, usual tip $30-$40 on top of door fee. Is there ANY massage provider that does a bit more, maybe a BJ or even FS? Ideal desire is a good massage followed by a nice BJ, but I'm guessing to get both from one person is going to be nearly impossible. Probably best to reply by PM if you can share any help to me.
[QUOTE=Blackfire;2153870]Looking for a little more, never had much luck in any of the massage places with more than a handshake. Seems like most often a handshake, nude or partially clothed has been available, usual tip $30-$40 on top of door fee. Is there ANY massage provider that does a bit more, maybe a BJ or even FS? Ideal desire is a good massage followed by a nice BJ, but I'm guessing to get both from one person is going to be nearly impossible. Probably best to reply by PM if you can share any help to me.[/QUOTE]I've been lucky once or twice with a BJ. But it takes a lot of visits, luck of the draw, and a lot of guesswork. If an mp or AMP goes the extra mile, they don't want you talking about it mainly because they're.
L. E. Skittish. They want nothing posted anywhere. I can tell you this. Pacific and Mama Dees can be intereting, depending.
[QUOTE=TotoyMola;2153540] still scared of diseases out there.[/QUOTE]Been in this hobby more than 30 years, man and boy, and I can tell you now. LEAVE! There is an inherent risk associated with this hobby and you cannot be 100% protected. You can take precautions and that is about it, but if you are going to worry about what you might get from whomever you are with then that will affect your experience. To be honest, I have gotten three STD, but they were ALL with Streetwalkers giving me oral. Each time I rushed to clean my private parts, yet I ended up with a dose. So, since 1999, I ONLY see escorts of higher quality and practice safety and have NOT had a problem since. Never visited an MP, does not interest me, so I cannot comment on their overall safety record. But, I can tell you if you are afraid of catching something you are in the wrong hobby. There is a risk you might!
Guys my doctor has put me on an all Asian diet! Please tell me your Number 1 fav Asian massage lady and your favorite parts of her massage / menu. I thank you in advance for your info and I appreciate your service to our cause!
Sincerely,
NJ.
[QUOTE=Blackfire;2153870]Looking for a little more, never had much luck in any of the massage places with more than a handshake. Seems like most often a handshake, nude or partially clothed has been available, usual tip $30-$40 on top of door fee. Is there ANY massage provider that does a bit more, maybe a BJ or even FS? Ideal desire is a good massage followed by a nice BJ, but I'm guessing to get both from one person is going to be nearly impossible. Probably best to reply by PM if you can share any help to me.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to put in the extra time and money that it takes to get "lucky" in GR, then Lansing is your closest option.
Place that you recommends that never fail?
[QUOTE=Donntee;2154977]If you don't want to put in the extra time and money that it takes to get "lucky" in GR, then Lansing is your closest option.[/QUOTE]
I saw Val she started posting and I have not seen her in about a year. Same Great massage she is offering FS now as well if your looking for a great massage and a FS ending!
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-saturday-27/16169035[/URL]
I fall in the category of pretty damn lucky mongers. I've gone BBFS with at least 50-100 providers over a 22-year period, maybe more, and haven't gotten anything yet (that I know of). That includes some truly nasty SWs, but mostly AMP and backpage girls. Not recommended, but I'm addicted to BB. This isn't to start a BB debate, by the way. If you're protected, then your chances of staying clean are pretty high.
[QUOTE=BadBoyFourU;2154214]Been in this hobby more than 30 years, man and boy, and I can tell you now. LEAVE! There is an inherent risk associated with this hobby and you cannot be 100% protected. You can take precautions and that is about it, but if you are going to worry about what you might get from whomever you are with then that will affect your experience. To be honest, I have gotten three STD, but they were ALL with Streetwalkers giving me oral. Each time I rushed to clean my private parts, yet I ended up with a dose. So, since 1999, I ONLY see escorts of higher quality and practice safety and have NOT had a problem since. Never visited an MP, does not interest me, so I cannot comment on their overall safety record. But, I can tell you if you are afraid of catching something you are in the wrong hobby. There is a risk you might![/QUOTE]
I called to see if Pam or Camille was going to be available and the person answered the phone said that the girls working were Ireland and some other name I didn't recognize. Any one had a massage with any of the new ones here?
What is her upsell? She use to post on an escort board.
FastHustler;2155136]I saw Val she started posting and I have not seen her in about a year. Same Great massage she is offering FS now as well if your looking for a great massage and a FS ending!
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sensual-saturday-27/16169035[/URL]
[QUOTE=MarkWa;2155532]I called to see if Pam or Camille was going to be available and the person answered the phone said that the girls working were Ireland and some other name I didn't recognize. Any one had a massage with any of the new ones here?[/QUOTE]I've always had great sessions at Serenty, so I just asked for the luck of the draw, and Ireland was available. New at Serenty, but not to the game. Has lost some weight (50 lbs), but still pretty "stocky". Kinda cute, cheery personality, gave a really nice ms, some good teasing, and excellent on the fllip. Just a hint of upsell at the end, but nothing too serious. Will definately repeat.
I know there were some reviews or discussion late last year about Andie.
Any updates about her service etc?
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/july-is-2000-rub-month-32/14865147[/URL]
[QUOTE=Spartan191;2157325]I know there were some reviews or discussion late last year about Andie.
Any updates about her service etc?
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/BodyRubs/july-is-2000-rub-month-32/14865147[/URL][/QUOTE]Low priced. Would not repeat.
Intended to see Tash today, but got canceled on so I ended up with Kim. Sweet girl, great masseuse, but the flip was mechanical and I don't think she enjoys giving them. Never once looked at me or my crank, it's fine but she just gazed of in the corner as she finished the job. I wish she would have just said it wasn't her thing.
Hope to see Tash soon. She is totally smoking hot in my book. Will not repeat with Kim.
Not sure why they receive bad reviews on this board. The place is clean, behind a building, a couple buildings from the main road. Upsell wasn't terrible for a happy massage. I probably would repeat there.
Interested to hear different feedback.
Stopped by Pacific 44th, had not been there since one of my favs Joy moved to E / W. Got the luck of the draw with Heidi. Paid Kiet 60 for the hour and she lead me down the hall to one of the rooms. As we were getting to the door, I literally ran into a Hot Latina woman. Must be the Anita everyone raves about. WoW! She's sexy. Will look into seeing her after I'm off my all Asian Diet.
This was my first time with Heidi. She's cute and has a tight body and looks younger than she is. No talk of tip or upsell at all. She has skills and gave a great firm back massage with no teasing. On the flip we talked a bit as she massaged my legs. She gradually teased the boys while asking if it feels good and I says oh yeah. She then proceeded to give an awesome handshake with good eye contact while softly whispering to me to pop. I did not try to roam or ask for any favors.
Overall a great therapuetic massage and relaxing flip. I will repeat.
Visited there 2 weeks ago. I got sandy, she quoted $40 for a fully clothed release. $80 for topless.
This is as a tip not including the what I paid for the door fee.
I said it was a no go, I said $40 is what I typically tip for topless / nude. I wouldn't budge she wouldn't budge. This negotiation didn't start till halfway through my appt. So I just paid the door fee and called it a day.
Disappointing but glad I didn't pay her fee. Will not be going back to not going through that bs when panacea is in the same area and has great girls. Maybe some people are ok with that tip structure but not me. Spa 37 does not offer premium services that warrent premium pricing.
[QUOTE=RushBlitzer;2160832]Visited there 2 weeks ago. I got sandy, she quoted $40 for a fully clothed release. $80 for topless.
This is as a tip not including the what I paid for the door fee.
I said it was a no go, I said $40 is what I typically tip for topless / nude. I wouldn't budge she wouldn't budge. This negotiation didn't start till halfway through my appt. So I just paid the door fee and called it a day.
Disappointing but glad I didn't pay her fee. Will not be going back to not going through that bs when panacea is in the same area and has great girls. Maybe some people are ok with that tip structure but not me. Spa 37 does not offer premium services that warrent premium pricing.[/QUOTE]That is uncalled for. I will tip that when I'm not pressured into it, but when someone pressures you it just kills the appointment. You would think with panacea just a couple miles away they would take on their business model and let the customer tip be an actual tip. The girls they have at 37 spa are not unattractive. I saw Lynn walking around and she looks better than her backpage pics. Anna is good looking according to her pics and I got a thing for girls like Tash.
Caiti at momma dees / east west (I think) is another one that I think is smokin hot. So many girls I need another job.