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I guess she's back as an indie.

[url]http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/goodbye-maui-hello-oahu-23/2463695[/url]

The classic "leaving the islands for good" move. LOL. Hilarious these chicks.

[QUOTE=First Try; 1149058]I guess she's back as an indie.

[url]http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/goodbye-maui-hello-oahu-23/2463695[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kanakatak;1149387]The classic "leaving the islands for good" move. LOL. Hilarious these chicks.[/QUOTE]Passed by Rappongi, saw a popolo girl there. I believe it's the same one. Unless, it's a visiting twin.

For those who don't know me, I'm an AMP regular. Just easier with my busy schedule. But the AMP scene's been boring me so I've been peeping BP / eros for some fun. So wanted some expert opinions. Better to spend my money on a 2-hour or negotiate for a MSOG? Like in an AMP, if I'm not with an ATF. A lot of girls are prime to get you out.

If I find a 2-hour escort, do you pretty much play the 2 hours (so I'd figure MSOG is there)? Or do you get a 1-hour and negotiate a 1-hour?

I just got a nice bonus + extra paid day off from my boss for closing a PITA sale. I'm spending it, because it really wasn't worth how much much headaches I had.

[QUOTE=Pok Gai; 1151961]For those who don't know me, I'm an AMP regular. Just easier with my busy schedule. But the AMP scene's been boring me so I've been peeping BP / eros for some fun. So wanted some expert opinions. Better to spend my money on a 2-hour or negotiate for a MSOG? Like in an AMP, if I'm not with an ATF. A lot of girls are prime to get you out.

If I find a 2-hour escort, do you pretty much play the 2 hours (so I'd figure MSOG is there)? Or do you get a 1-hour and negotiate a 1-hour?

I just got a nice bonus + extra paid day off from my boss for closing a PITA sale. I'm spending it, because it really wasn't worth how much much headaches I had. [/QUOTE]I seen some of your previous posts, so I know you up and up, and you deserve some feedback on your questions.

For the 2 hour vs. The MSOG, just be careful of both BP and Eros.

A lot of the providers on both sites will just give you one shot on goal, no matter how much you spend. In the old days, you paid for the time and no matter what happened, you got the full time. So guys who can pop and then pop again right away, well if you still had time on the clock, that was ok with the provider. Now days, once you pop, all pau. The girl will give you the bums rush out the door, or get dressed and leave herself. If you lucky, maybe she will talk and stay with you for a little while or till the clock runs out. But as far as MSOG, you better get that agreed upon so you don't waste your money. And agreeing on the MSOG is kinda tough because if they don't know you, they like the money up front, but they have to do the LE check, so kinda hard to talk about what you want for how much and still be careful they not LE.

Thats why forums like this are good because if you looking for the MSOG, sometimes the guys here will tell you who does it.

A lot of the Eros and BP providers are passing through, so they don't give a shit about giving good service. To get the MSOGs, you sometimes got to see the same girl twice or more.

I have to agree.

I haven't seen any quality providers come through for a while.

Your best bet is to see someone that has a good reputation elsewhere.

The good providers tend to keep their phone numbers because they keep regulars and it's easier to find their good reviews. The bad ones change names phone numbers and pics all the time to keep you guessing. If you are going to drop $600 on an escort for 2 hours just know what her reviews are. If you can't find any then that's not a good sign either because really good providers always have reviews.

Some promote themselves with their reviews.

[QUOTE=Davehono; 1151971]I seen some of your previous posts, so I know you up and up, and you deserve some feedback on your questions.

For the 2 hour vs. The MSOG, just be careful of both BP and Eros.

A lot of the providers on both sites will just give you one shot on goal, no matter how much you spend. In the old days, you paid for the time and no matter what happened, you got the full time. So guys who can pop and then pop again right away, well if you still had time on the clock, that was ok with the provider. Now days, once you pop, all pau. The girl will give you the bums rush out the door, or get dressed and leave herself. If you lucky, maybe she will talk and stay with you for a little while or till the clock runs out. But as far as MSOG, you better get that agreed upon so you don't waste your money. And agreeing on the MSOG is kinda tough because if they don't know you, they like the money up front, but they have to do the LE check, so kinda hard to talk about what you want for how much and still be careful they not LE.

Thats why forums like this are good because if you looking for the MSOG, sometimes the guys here will tell you who does it.

A lot of the Eros and BP providers are passing through, so they don't give a shit about giving good service. To get the MSOGs, you sometimes got to see the same girl twice or more. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pok Gai;1151961]Better to spend my money on a 2-hour or negotiate for a MSOG? Like in an AMP, if I'm not with an ATF. A lot of girls are prime to get you out.[/QUOTE]I've gambled three times in the last six months on initial two-hour sessions and had good-great experiences with two of them. One of those is my current fave.

As to your first question, I don't think it should be an either / or issue.

The ads say "you're paying for my time," and I want what I paid for. MSOG should be the freaking *standard* along with BBBJ and (at least) LFK. MSOG has only come up once for me since I returned to "mongering"* in 2010, but in that case I was happy to leave.

I say try to find a girl you think will appeal to you, book as much time as you feel like spending and make sure she offers MSOG as well. The more of us that settle for less, the more we'll all have to settle for less than what we want.

[QUOTE=Pok Gai;1151961]If I find a 2-hour escort, do you pretty much play the 2 hours (so I'd figure MSOG is there)? Or do you get a 1-hour and negotiate a 1-hour? [/QUOTE]It entirely depends on your mood and the girl's. The times I've had two-hours on a first visit I told them at the beginning that I had enough for two if the first hour went well. I put the burden on them to make me feel good for an hour so she wouldn't have to go back to answering her phone right away. But one's agency wouldn't allow the flexibility and I had to commit to time beforehand. Wasn't worth it.

I also don't negotiate or tip. Whatever she charges is what she charges, and if I don't like her fee I don't see her. I feel negotiating sets an adversarial vibe at the beginning of something I want it to be friendly. Yeah, you probably don't care about that part.

* Do you guys realize we're using the word "monger" completely backwards? It means: a dealer or trader in a specified commodity (cheesemonger | fishmonger).

[QUOTE=Hornyhaole; 1152611].

* Do you guys realize we're using the word "monger" completely backwards? It means: a dealer or trader in a specified commodity (cheesemonger | fishmonger). [/QUOTE]Oh man, that is funny! Great observation. Who started this "monger" crap anyway and better yet, who has a better name?

[QUOTE=Max808;1152836]Oh man, that is funny! Great observation. Who started this "monger" crap anyway and better yet, who has a better name?[/QUOTE]Found this in the urban dictionary. Monger, short for whoremonger, I. E, one who frequents working girls and prostitutes.

[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monger[/url]

[QUOTE=Chik0848; 1152854]Found this in the urban dictionary. Monger, short for whoremonger, I. E, one who frequents working girls and prostitutes.

[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monger[/url]

[/QUOTE]Guess I'm proven wrong. Looking up the entire word "whoremonger" in my dictionary I get:

"noun archaic.
A person who has dealings with prostitutes, esp. A sexually promiscuous man."

In my defense I must point out that this is entirely inconsistent with terms like "fishmonger," which is a person who actually sells fish (AKA a "fishpimp" I guess). But when it comes to working girls it refers to the the customer?

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/monger[/url]

Mon·ger.

–noun.

1. A person who is involved with something in a petty or contemptible way (usually used in combination) : a gossipmonger.

2. Chiefly British. A dealer in or trader of a commodity (usually used in combination) : fishmonger.

So we've been using definition 1 which basically means "total loser who likes X." Whee.

[QUOTE=Hornyhaole; 1152908]Guess I'm proven wrong. Looking up the entire word "whoremonger" in my dictionary I get:

"noun archaic.

A person who has dealings with prostitutes, esp. A sexually promiscuous man."

In my defense I must point out that this is entirely inconsistent with terms like "fishmonger," which is a person who actually sells fish (AKA a "fishpimp" I guess). But when it comes to working girls it refers to the the customer? [/QUOTE]Yes.

One meaning for Monger is "Dealer"; another found online is,"A person promoting something undesirable or discreditable. Often used in combination: a scandalmonger; a warmonger."

In The House of Jackson, the definition you found (whoremonger) applies but I suppose we simply say 'monger' for brevity, also because the software auto-censors the "W" word to asterisks as offensive, as it does with the "B" word.

As for a better word, I sometimes use what Kapalua used: "Hobbyist".

To me, a great escort experience is no comparison to the AMPs. I mean, yeah, every once in awhile you find that AMP gem and that's good. But when you find that escort gem, the experience can be off the charts! So with that said, go to volcano girls. Leilani or cee. You WILL NOT be disappointed. Promise. Well worth the extra cash. Pm if you want details.

[QUOTE=Pok Gai; 1151961]For those who don't know me, I'm an AMP regular. Just easier with my busy schedule. But the AMP scene's been boring me so I've been peeping BP / eros for some fun. So wanted some expert opinions. Better to spend my money on a 2-hour or negotiate for a MSOG? Like in an AMP, if I'm not with an ATF. A lot of girls are prime to get you out.

If I find a 2-hour escort, do you pretty much play the 2 hours (so I'd figure MSOG is there)? Or do you get a 1-hour and negotiate a 1-hour?

I just got a nice bonus + extra paid day off from my boss for closing a PITA sale. I'm spending it, because it really wasn't worth how much much headaches I had.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hornyhaole;1152611]I've gambled three times in the last six months on initial two-hour sessions and had good-great experiences with two of them. One of those is my current fave.[/QUOTE]Would you care to share who the "good-great experiences with two of them" might be?

Ok, not sure if anyone remembers, but there was this spinner provider at VG 2-3 years ago maybe 4. She advertised as puertorican, and Filipino. I think. Short curly hair / skinny, nice ass. I can't remember her name, but just wondering if anyone remembers her, or has any info on her. Thanks if you do! She was definitely a hottie!

[QUOTE=Woody56;1154654]Would you care to share who the "good-great experiences with two of them" might be?[/QUOTE]Gah, I was afraid I'd be asked that. It's a fair question, but I'm afraid my answer is kind of lame.

One was visiting (has the identification number 155778 on a certain other site, she was the "good" one). She's been back since and says she'll return. If you like cute, young black spinner types she's a keeper. No BBBJ though, which was what kept her from being "great" IMO.

But the other isn't actively advertising and said she's not seeing new clients at the moment, so I guess I got in under the wire for getting on her regulars list.

But the point of my post was that if you hit it off with a girl then a mutli-hour initial meeting is a good way to become a valued customer.

*10084; * Erotic Huntress *10084; *.33.

Goes by the name Lily.

Of Lily's secret garden.

Was here ending of last year and coming back in a week. Checked thread but no reviews of her locally.

Much appreciated.

Also posted request on BP thread, but she also advertises on E* when she comes here

[QUOTE=Waipahu Prowl;1155192]Ok, not sure if anyone remembers, but there was this spinner provider at VG 2-3 years ago maybe 4. She advertised as puertorican, and Filipino. I think. Short curly hair / skinny, nice ass. I can't remember her name, but just wondering if anyone remembers her, or has any info on her. Thanks if you do! She was definitely a hottie![/QUOTE]Go on VG website and go to yahoo groups link den ask Tash same question. She tell you.

[QUOTE=Davehono; 1157286]*10084; * Erotic Huntress *10084; .33.

Goes by the name Lily.

Of Lily's secret garden.

Was here ending of last year and coming back in a week. Checked thread but no reviews of her locally.

Much appreciated.

Also posted request on BP thread, but she also advertises on E* when she comes here[/QUOTE]She has a review for the price and what she offers I would not partake of her service.

[QUOTE=Davehono; 1157286]*10084; * Erotic Huntress *10084; .33.

Goes by the name Lily.

Of Lily's secret garden.

Was here ending of last year and coming back in a week. Checked thread but no reviews of her locally.

Much appreciated.

Also posted request on BP thread, but she also advertises on E* when she comes here[/QUOTE]I did her.

Go here.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7541-Massage-Therapists/page26[/url]

Massage therapists thread, #2129.

All you need to know. Have fun.

DM

Is it just me, or does anyone agree that Tammy Mori on the morning news would make more money working at an AMP? She is HOT! Gety schlong up every morning! Thanks Tammy, the wife gets fucked hard every morning and has no idea I am picturing Miss Tammy! Awright!

Aloha,

Bruddah Guy

[QUOTE=GKaniho; 1158231]Is it just me, or does anyone agree that Tammy Mori on the morning news would make more money working at an AMP? She is HOT! Gety schlong up every morning! Thanks Tammy, the wife gets fucked hard every morning and has no idea I am picturing Miss Tammy! Awright!

Aloha,

Bruddah Guy[/QUOTE]Yeah she's dope, stephanie lum isn't bad either, but tammy mori. Lucky we live Hawaii.

[QUOTE=GKaniho; 1158231]Is it just me, or does anyone agree that Tammy Mori on the morning news would make more money working at an AMP? She is HOT! Gety schlong up every morning! Thanks Tammy, the wife gets fucked hard every morning and has no idea I am picturing Miss Tammy! Awright!

Aloha,

Bruddah Guy[/QUOTE]Ho yeah. I'd hit that! She's a hotty.

Do ya think chicks even are aware of that? I often wonder.

Imagine being on TV (I know, this is hard for guys to relate to because we are men) and you're sitting there talking about traffic, weather, buses, how to plant flowers, etc, just blabbering about crap. Then it suddenly occurs to you that there are probably dozens of men and boys (you know I'm right) , if not hundreds, on any given day that are lying in bed, before work or school, and they are yanking their pud looking at you and thinking about blasting your face with their spunk mustard? At first they are repulsed at the idea, but at some point in time you have to wonder if these chicks are getting aroused by the fact that we are lusting after them?

Hang on, I'm not a psycho, or whack job. Just speaking the truth. These chicks have to consider that at some point and I would love to know what their "inner" private thoughts are and how they deal with it in their private moments?

Does anyone else think about this, or am I a sick SOB and don't know it?

[QUOTE=GKaniho; 1158231]Is it just me, or does anyone agree that Tammy Mori on the morning news would make more money working at an AMP? She is HOT! Gety schlong up every morning! Thanks Tammy, the wife gets fucked hard every morning and has no idea I am picturing Miss Tammy! Awright!

Aloha,

Bruddah Guy[/QUOTE]Tammy is smokin' HOT! I've seen her a couple times downtown when she was with the DOT. On the street, she has that sultry, slutty look in her eye. She's hot and she knows it. I have to say, she's better looking in person than on TV IMHO.

[QUOTE=Widget;1158646]Tammy is smokin' HOT! I've seen her a couple times downtown when she was with the DOT. On the street, she has that sultry, slutty look in her eye. She's hot and she knows it. I have to say, she's better looking in person than on TV IMHO.[/QUOTE]She teaches a surf yoga class. $20 a session. You ought to check out that. Look at the website and see her laying down on a surf board in her bikini.

We should all get together and take a lesson together. She would peg us before class starts. LOL

[QUOTE=Olomana;1158435]Yeah she's dope, stephanie lum isn't bad either, but tammy mori. Lucky we live Hawaii.[/QUOTE]My vote goes to Tammy Mori. From what can barely be seen on the surf yoga page, her ass would look great in ds. Stephanie Lum has no tits but maybe she's got some long nips to suck on? Would be awesome to role play with them sort of like that porn scene that has Maria Ozawa anchoring the news. Yup, yup, both Tammy and Steph would look great with my cum all over their made-up faces. Do you think they like to suck dick?

[QUOTE=Smokin Gun;1158669]My vote goes to Tammy Mori. From what can barely be seen on the surf yoga page, her ass would look great in ds. Stephanie Lum has no tits but maybe she's got some long nips to suck on? Would be awesome to role play with them sort of like that porn scene that has Maria Ozawa anchoring the news. Yup, yup, both Tammy and Steph would look great with my cum all over their made-up faces. Do you think they like to suck dick?[/QUOTE]I know Steph's former fiancé, and YES she is apparently quite the dick sucker. I was at a party once with her and Mari Ela David there and Mari is a party girl while Steph appeared to be the good girl type. But, YES she loves to give head! Sure wish she would suck MY schlong!

Aloha,

Bruddah Guy

[QUOTE=GKaniho; 1158848]I know Steph's former fiancé, and YES she is apparently quite the dick sucker. I was at a party once with her and Mari Ela David there and Mari is a party girl while Steph appeared to be the good girl type. But, YES she loves to give head! Sure wish she would suck MY schlong!

Aloha,

Bruddah Guy[/QUOTE]I would pay good money to see Mari Ela David and Stephanie Lum do some girl on girl action! Either one of them can suck on JR all day long!

[QUOTE=GKaniho; 1158848]I know Steph's former fiancé, and YES she is apparently quite the dick sucker. I was at a party once with her and Mari Ela David there and Mari is a party girl while Steph appeared to be the good girl type. But, YES she loves to give head! Sure wish she would suck MY schlong!

Aloha,

Bruddah Guy[/QUOTE]Alas, Mari Ela is married and on the Big Island, and Stephanie is engaged again. I kinda remember a long ago post that mentioned that Stephanie loved Greek, but I can't find the post. Also remember long ago post about Liz Chun giving head to the UH football team. LOLO. (Not LOL on purpose). Who got the proof, or is this just talk?

[QUOTE=Kitie Carson; 1158648]She teaches a surf yoga class. $20 a session. You ought to check out that. Look at the website and see her laying down on a surf board in her bikini.

We should all get together and take a lesson together. She would peg us before class starts. LOL[/QUOTE]Eh, no hold out. Give us the URL.

[QUOTE=Smokin Gun;1158669]Stephanie Lum has no tits but maybe she's got some long nips to suck on?[/QUOTE]The two times I've seen Steph in public she really left a lot to be desired. To me, she looks much better on TV. Both times she had running shorts on and was sitting down. I was shocked at the amount of cellulite she had. Also, when she stood up, I was also shocked at her lack of curves. Beautiful, beautiful on TV though.

[QUOTE=Doc Wayne;1158936]Eh, no hold out. Give us the URL.[/QUOTE]Here it is: [url]http://sportsyogahawaii.com/coaches/tammy/[/url]

You guys crack me up with your news-caster posts. I'm surprised no one mentioned Malika Dudley. She can forecast about my southern swell any time.

Anyway, back to the thread's topic. After reading some reports on Nikki, I tried to see her on Thursday, but after reading Hornyhaole's report on her, I now know why she couldn't meet. Instead, I met up with Lea. I noticed her profile on the VG homepage, but it has since mysteriously disappeared. Here's a link to her BP ad:

[url]http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/long-legs-that-go-all-the-way-to-heaven-back-in-hawaii/2450437[/url]

The pics are legit, though she looks older in person. When she met me, she hadn't fully gotten ready yet so she didn't put on her make-up and gotten dolled up. I was fine without it anyway. She's tall (5'8") and curvy in the right places (Cs). She's also super friendly and actually took a while getting to know me. I was a little nervous that it would bite into the time, but she turned out to be a non-clock-watcher. I was there almost 2 hrs (YMMV as always). As far as the service was concerned, she offered BBBJ and some LFK along with the usual positions. I didn't last too long since she was very sensual and as near a GFE as I've experienced from a provider. Total damage was $$.5. She did mention she is very selective about her clientele and is definitely not a volume provider, so be good to her.

L / S/A.

8/10/10

Just saw Lei from VG for the first time on Friday night.

Called VG around 2pm Friday to see if Lei had any openings for that night.

(saw on the VG board that she was going to be on Oahu from Friday to Tuesday).

Natasha said Lei was only taking one appointment for Friday night at 8pm so I booked a 2 hour session.

This was my first time going to the new VG location. Used to go to their old location alot back in '03 to '05 to see Nani when she worked there.

Natasha gave me directions to the condo when I got closer to Waikiki and directed me to park at a spot on their lot.

I thought I was going to be late because of Friday night traffic but I ended up being 15 mins early but I was able to buzz in and wait for Lei (she was coming from the airport).

At 8pm Lei arrived and Natasha introduced us before leaving the room. After we said our hellos, Lei immediately DFK'd me for a bit before undressing and taking a quick shower.

Got undressed and waited for her on the bed (I showered before my appointment).

When she came back it was on!

Started off with more DFK while feeling her up and checking out her bolt ons and then some FIV, DATY, and CBJ we proceeded with some CG for a bit before switching to mish and then K9 for the finish (this girl is really built for the gound and pound action!). She likes it when you smack her azz and even allowed some hair pulling in K9.

Lei is the hot local chick that you see at the beach or cruising around Ala Moana or Pearlridge. She's totally cool and easy to get along with.

I'll definitely see her again in the future.

Damage was $$$$$.60 for the 2 hrs.

Next on my list: Cee Cruz

Just saw Lei from VG for the first time on Friday night.

Called VG around 2pm Friday to see if Lei had any openings for that night.

(saw on the VG board that she was going to be on Oahu from Friday to Tuesday).

Natasha said Lei was only taking one appointment for Friday night at 8pm so I booked a 2 hour session.

This was my first time going to the new VG location. Used to go to their old location alot back in '03 to '05 to see Nani when she worked there.

Natasha gave me directions to the condo when I got closer to Waikiki and directed me to park at a spot on their lot.

I thought I was going to be late because of Friday night traffic but I ended up being 15 mins early but I was able to buzz in and wait for Lei (she was coming from the airport).

At 8pm Lei arrived and Natasha introduced us before leaving the room. After we said our hellos, Lei immediately DFK'd me for a bit before undressing and taking a quick shower.

Got undressed and waited for her on the bed (I showered before my appointment).

When she came back it was on!

Started off with more DFK while feeling her up and checking out her bolt ons and then some FIV, DATY, and CBJ we proceeded with some CG for a bit before switching to mish and then K9 for the finish (this girl is really built for the gound and pound action!). She likes it when you smack her azz and even allowed some hair pulling in K9.

Lei is the hot local chick that you see at the beach or cruising around Ala Moana or Pearlridge. She's totally cool and easy to get along with.

I'll definitely see her again in the future.

Damage was $$$$$.60 for the 2 hrs.

Next on my list: Cee Cruz

I've been to the incall for Volcano Girls a couple of times. My experience there was average. So-so. Why aren't there more agencies here? The good girls command top dollar. It seems to me that a clever agency owner can get a lot of the top talent to come her for a nice split. Just buy the ticket and offer them a room to stay. With a 60/40 split, it could be a great business. There are lots of girls who want to come to Hawaii and make some bucks. On the mainland, you can get a top tier GFE experience for $150. Mark that up to $250 and you've got a nice margin with lots of happy hobbyists.

I just got a text from her.

Catch her while you can.

[QUOTE=Goser;1164129]I've been to the incall for Volcano Girls a couple of times. My experience there was average. So-so. Why aren't there more agencies here? The good girls command top dollar. It seems to me that a clever agency owner can get a lot of the top talent to come her for a nice split. Just buy the ticket and offer them a room to stay. With a 60/40 split, it could be a great business. There are lots of girls who want to come to Hawaii and make some bucks. On the mainland, you can get a top tier GFE experience for $150. Mark that up to $250 and you've got a nice margin with lots of happy hobbyists.[/QUOTE]Hey Goser, I agree with you and have the same question. Where are all the agencies on island? It seems that a top tier GFE provider on the mainland could really rake in the bucks here on a visit. I know Montreal Girlfriends was doing this for a while and provided some of the best talent I've seen here in hawaii. Unfortunately, they seemed to have "pulled out" of the market (pun intended).

An another note, can someone give me soome 411 on the provider "Karen". I've seen her advertised on several websites, and am curious how she is. I must be totally lame with trying to do searches on her as when I simply try putting in her name, nothing comes up. Anyone know her? Here's a link to her:

[url]http://www.***********.com/ads/escorts/e-sweet-sexy-filipino-asian-babe-e-1413.html[/url]

Thanks for you help!

[QUOTE=Phoenix261; 1167349]Hey Goser, I agree with you and have the same question. Where are all the agencies on island? It seems that a top tier GFE provider on the mainland could really rake in the bucks here on a visit. I know Montreal Girlfriends was doing this for a while and provided some of the best talent I've seen here in hawaii. Unfortunately, they seemed to have "pulled out" of the market (pun intended).

Thanks for you help![/QUOTE]I don't know why but can only speculate.

I've been a customer of Tasha's (VG) for many years, back when they worked out of the condo by the Ala Wai Harbor. Taking a cut from the girls for a "place" and making ends meet otherwise, I'm sure gets challenging. It's about money. I think Tash runs a good service, considering the alternatives out there. It's safe, discreet, and a cool scene I have never had any qualms about walking into.

But the "challenge" for both us and the provider is the price between collecting it all for herself (provider) and keeping the price low and reasonable (us). When a middleman gets involved, there goes some of the take. I know Tash gets hers and the girls know that going into it. But they trade this money for a safe place. We fork over a little more for good girls, good service, and a safe discreet location. But we also pay more.

MGF girls were excellent. And we also had to pay a bit more, but they were worth it. But their location sucked. If anybody was stuck like me trying to get upstairs to their place at Ala Mo hotel by security card issues, I burned 15 minutes of my "hour" I paid for. Bummer.

It's always a challenge when providers are visitors and have to get a room. It's part of the package we pay for. But then girls like Dana Von Damme who are good and get a following, slowly raise their prices to an amount that can sustain them. She started on Eros at 300 now charges 500. So mongers must still be buying, eh?

AMP girls are easy at 150 a pop and MS gets her 50 at the door. It's easy and we never think of it. But it's the same game, different pricing.

[QUOTE=Darkman808;1167959]AMP girls are easy at 150 a pop and MS gets her 50 at the door. It's easy and we never think of it. But it's the same game, different pricing.[/QUOTE]In some cases the AMP girls also either pay "rent" and / or a percentage (or set amount) per customer. It is not not necessarily the norm that the AMP girl will pocket the whole 150 tip.

[QUOTE=Darkman808; 1167959]I don't know why but can only speculate.

I've been a customer of Tasha's (VG) for many years, back when they worked out of the condo by the Ala Wai Harbor. Taking a cut from the girls for a "place" and making ends meet otherwise, I'm sure gets challenging. It's about money. I think Tash runs a good service, considering the alternatives out there. It's safe, discreet, and a cool scene I have never had any qualms about walking into.

But the "challenge" for both us and the provider is the price between collecting it all for herself (provider) and keeping the price low and reasonable (us). When a middleman gets involved, there goes some of the take. I know Tash gets hers and the girls know that going into it. But they trade this money for a safe place. We fork over a little more for good girls, good service, and a safe discreet location. But we also pay more. [/QUOTE]Tasha has a few problems with her girls when they start advertising out on BP or formerly on CL, even though they aren't supposed to do that. Kendra was doing that, charging $$$/hr, which is above the rate at the time. Some of her other girls started doing it too and Tasha fired them for doing that, but she never fired Kendra for doing the same thing because Kendra was her favorite and was in the most demand. Tasha had the habit of playing favorites, some times. Kendra even took out ads on Eros with the higher rates. Tasha makes exceptions for certain girls advertising on websites with higher rates, but won't let others do it.

Another problem I had with VG is how the girls would all badmouth each other when I would see one of them. I'd hear all about the personal stuff (which was none of my business) about all the girls, I guess the girls in less demand trying to get me not to see the other girl and just keep seeing the backstabber. Whenever a girl would get fired or quit, then I'd hear all about it if I called and tried to set-up an appt with her. I really don't need to hear about somebody's drug problems or that they had a pimp or whatever.

When I'm paying to see a girl, I don't need or want to get involved in their personal issues with each other.

Tasha would occasionally hire girls off the strip, which never resulted in good service. I'd be paying for an hour, but get 20 or 30 minutes, like an SW would do. You can usually tell which girls those are by their complete lack of reviews on another site.

But, when I've had good service, it was very good. Blue, Sharon / Darla and Misty were my ATFs when they were there.