[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3242066]This, but what's AF? - and I did check the glossary at the Richmond thread.[/QUOTE]African American.
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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3242066]This, but what's AF? - and I did check the glossary at the Richmond thread.[/QUOTE]African American.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;3243423]African American.[/QUOTE]Why not use AA like others?
This super hottie (pictured) hit me up today from her new profile. I guess she forgot I was that cheap dude that insulted her with an offer under $$$ or $$$$$ or whatever it was she was after. LOL. But boys the pickens are so easy right now. I have never seen this many willing girls at a $. In 3 weeks I got a dozen names and numbers and turned down two dozen more. So far i have been on 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$$$$. With varying degrees of success. From making out and rolling around on the floor, to a hot car date at a laundromat to the traditional FC date in my palace. My lack of funds has forced me to up my game, get a little more honest, and spend some real time showing an interest.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3243566]This super hottie (pictured) hit me up today from her new profile. I guess she forgot I was that cheap dude that insulted her with an offer under $$$ or $$$$$ or whatever it was she was after. LOL. But boys the pickens are so easy right now. I have never seen this many willing girls at a $. In 3 weeks I got a dozen names and numbers and turned down two dozen more. So far i have been on 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$$$$. With varying degrees of success. From making out and rolling around on the floor, to a hot car date at a laundromat to the traditional FC date in my palace. My lack of funds has forced me to up my game, get a little more honest, and spend some real time showing an interest.[/QUOTE]She sure looks delicious though!
TTM.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3237051]The one pictured below is a POT I have been talking to off and on for a year and never met. In the beginning she was so adamant about her $$ so I just kept shining her on. Today she says, she has a day off coming soon, and will make the one hour train ride to my area for $ and maybe just hang out for a few hours. She is very sweet looking, 21 and in shape.[/QUOTE]I spoke to her on the phone today. She sounds awesome. She only met two other guys off the site in a year of being on there. Both were really pushing their luck. It makes no sense as this is a naturally giving type girl. And just my type (5. 8 and 115 lbs). A real SB that want to hang out, maybe stay over. It; s all about the chemistry. She is looking for a once a week arrangement. I can handle that.
7 dates just under 10 k! Jesus Daddt money bags haha! Lucky girls! What did you mean? $$ I would guess yes.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3243566]This super hottie (pictured) hit me up today from her new profile. I guess she forgot I was that cheap dude that insulted her with an offer under $$$ or $$$$$ or whatever it was she was after. LOL. But boys the pickens are so easy right now. I have never seen this many willing girls at a $. In 3 weeks I got a dozen names and numbers and turned down two dozen more. So far i have been on 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$$$$. With varying degrees of success. From making out and rolling around on the floor, to a hot car date at a laundromat to the traditional FC date in my palace. My lack of funds has forced me to up my game, get a little more honest, and spend some real time showing an interest.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3243512]Why not use AA like others?[/QUOTE]Just brain dead is all.
[QUOTE=DrMcNaughty;3244905]7 dates just under 10 k! Jesus Daddt money bags haha! Lucky girls! What did you mean? $$ I would guess yes.[/QUOTE]He said 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$ not 10 k. At less than $ per date, that's a good cost per bang.
I was joking I realized fully that he Daddy Good Deal had an extra $ . "settke down now" haha.
[QUOTE=Dolato;3245960]He said 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$ not 10 k. At less than $ per date, that's a good cost per bang.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dolato;3245960]He said 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$ not 10 k. At less than $ per date, that's a good cost per bang.[/QUOTE]Actually it says 7 dates for just under $$$$$. Thats five $ or about .7 per date.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3246178]Actually it says 7 dates for just under $$$$$. Thats five $ or about .7 per date.[/QUOTE]Yea I understood what you wrote. I copied and pasted your line and must have missed the extra $s at the end. Still not sure what the other guy's going on about though. I guess he's making jokes?
Wow. She looks super delicious. So did she come down from her original price?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3243566]This super hottie (pictured) hit me up today from her new profile. I guess she forgot I was that cheap dude that insulted her with an offer under $$$ or $$$$$ or whatever it was she was after. LOL. But boys the pickens are so easy right now. I have never seen this many willing girls at a $. In 3 weeks I got a dozen names and numbers and turned down two dozen more. So far i have been on 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$$$$. With varying degrees of success. From making out and rolling around on the floor, to a hot car date at a laundromat to the traditional FC date in my palace. My lack of funds has forced me to up my game, get a little more honest, and spend some real time showing an interest.[/QUOTE]
The majority is blacks and Latinas. Most are not that good-looking, but do think their pussies are pure gold.
Quite a few do quick pay for play. Their fees plus hotel would run into $$ A thick Asian woman wanted $$ for a short session. I never messaged her again.
Older Caucasians and Latinas want lots of wine and dine at expensive restaurants with no assurance of sex after. Damn.
Many young girls want no physical relationships, just on line talk for money. WTF?
Most young girls want set monthly allowances, $2,000 to $5,000 or more for fucking a few times a month. These dim-witted, uneducated women think their pussies are worth a lot. Fuck their haughty attitudes. Women in the US are so stupid and spoiled. They all are blatant about taking advantages of and abusing the guys. I hope they end up with pimps who work them for nothing.
I can skip all the bullshit, go down to Tijuana, party, drink all night and fuck some of the hottest young girls every weekend for less than $100. Repeat next week.
The thick Asian woman wanted $500 for a ST fuck. WTF?
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3246997] Quite a few do quick pay for play. Their fees plus hotel would run into $$ A thick Asian woman wanted $500 for a short session. I never messaged her again.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3246997]The majority is blacks and Latinas. Most are not that good-looking, but do think their pussies are pure gold.
Quite a few do quick pay for play. Their fees plus hotel would run into $$ A thick Asian woman wanted $$ for a short session. I never messaged her again.
Older Caucasians and Latinas want lots of wine and dine at expensive restaurants with no assurance of sex after. Damn.
Many young girls want no physical relationships, just on line talk for money. WTF?
Most young girls want set monthly allowances, $2,000 to $5,000 or more for fucking a few times a month. These dim-witted, uneducated women think their pussies are worth a lot. Fuck their haughty attitudes. Women in the US are so stupid and spoiled. They all are blatant about taking advantages of and abusing the guys. I hope they end up with pimps who work them for nothing.
I can skip all the bullshit, go down to Tijuana, party, drink all night and fuck some of the hottest young girls every weekend for less than $100. Repeat next week.[/QUOTE]This is all mostly true. While I love hearing about the stories on here, you have to realize that most of these girls being referred to here are AA and AA girls command a much lower price in every realm of paid sex work. So SA is not really the haven that you would think from reading these stories. You can get a 6/6 AA girl for little to no money, but good luck trying to get a 9/9 white or Asian girl for anything less than $$.
I was smoking a wee bit tooo much of the ghost train haze. Yes I was joking!
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[QUOTE=Dolato;3246248]Yea I understood what you wrote. I copied and pasted your line and must have missed the extra $s at the end. Still not sure what the other guy's going on about though. I guess he's making jokes?[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Stolper;3247643]This is all mostly true. While I love hearing about the stories on here, you have to realize that most of these girls being referred to here are AA and AA girls command a much lower price in every realm of paid sex work. So SA is not really the haven that you would think from reading these stories. You can get a 6/6 AA girl for little to no money, but good luck trying to get a 9/9 white or Asian girl for anything less than $$.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but you guys are reaping what you sow. I totally disagree with your characterization of the women on SA. I am on there a lot when my membership is active, and in my area, it isn't what you describe. I don't know what axe you have to grind w / them, but I can assure you that you're not competing w / me in the bowl, and the women on SA that I talk to will be happy not to have you messaging them.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3250243]Sorry, but you guys are reaping what you sow. I totally disagree with your characterization of the women on SA. I am on there a lot when my membership is active, and in my area, it isn't what you describe. I don't know what axe you have to grind w / them, but I can assure you that you're not competing w / me in the bowl, and the women on SA that I talk to will be happy not to have you messaging them.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where you are, but I've been in the bowl in multiple major cities. Maybe because I tend to go for the under 30's crowd. Maybe because I've only sugared in the "major" cities, but my experience has been exactly this. The ones who are willing to go straight to FC for little to no money have been AA, Latinas, "Mixed (aka AA)", or not super attractive (at least relative to the non-BP escort market). The ones that are white or Asian and slightly more attractive usually command a much higher rate, something like 400-500 for a night. And I'm talking about the ones actually willing to meet up, not that ones that promise you all sorts of things and don't show up. Maybe you have significantly better luck or a better approach, but from a quick read of your recent LA forum history, all I see are mostly complaints about SBs flaking or promises of FC meetups without follow throughs, or reports about less attractive than expected women. If you're actually meeting a ton of hot women who are going to FC for little to no money, then kudos to you. I'm just pointing out the other side, which is that people reading this forum shouldn't be misled and expect to find gorgeous 9/9 non-AA SBs just dying to have sex with you for less than 4-5 $ sugar.
Most women show face piercing, huge tattoos, funny retouched pics, low level or no education, menial and clerical jobs, poor grammar and bad spelling errors. They look like trailer trash to me, but they want to trade whatever little they have to be "taken care of," for world travel, expensive shopping at fancy stores, wine and dine at fancy restaurants, spoiled with flattering and gifts, lots of stupid bullshit. They are dreaming their stupid dreams and make me laugh out of my ass. Hehe.
A few girls use pics copied off the internet, which can be easily found using tineye.
A few list their addresses in tony beach cities, but they actually live somewhere else, and target rich guys living near the beaches.
A few divorcees and alleged college students wanted to do ST quickly to pay expenses.
Messaged a few good-looking young students but they canceled their SA accounts and no longer responded. I hope they found their billionaire sugar daddies.
Found a tall and lanky Russian girl. Her face is not that pretty. She's on a tourist visa, trying to find ways to stay in the US to better her future. She was ready to do ST the next day but flaked out and moved to another town too far for me too meet. She was short of money and would do anything.
An attractive woman wanted to meet at a Starbuck Coffee. I made a mistake inviting her to a quick lunch. She wanted to go to fancy restaurants with a long drive so I had to cancel her. Now she wants to meet only in restaurants, no more Starbucks hehe.
A couple women claimed young children, wanted $20 per hour for baby sitters if we meet.
A fairly attractive business woman drove 50 miles to meet me then drove me out to lunch. She's single now and not so young, but still fairly attractive with her tight assets, with extended family nearby but still lonely, wanting companies for local trips and to be fucked for sure. She agreed to a few driving trips. After lunch I was kissing and groping her in the car. She was in a daze, looking horny for a good fuck, but insisted that she had to go to meetings.
She wanted to meet again next week. Will arrange for a local trips when I will fuck her all night, well, unless her boobs and her ass are too saggy and her pussy too loose that kill off my libido. It's hard to seduce me. I am jaded with the hot, fun, sexy, passionate and tight young spinners in Tijuana hehe. You can say I have many hot, sexy and flirty GF's there. I don't even look at women in the US anymore unless they are young and extremely attractive.
A few other interesting young girls wanted to meet, stating minimal expectations. I will definitely help those with genuine needs, but will play the stupid, greedy, ugly fools with way-inflated sense of self-worth hehe.
BACKPAGE's escort sections are now censored. Most advertisers moved to the dating sections, eventually may be a lot of them will be in SEEKING ARRANGEMENT.
US men have been beaten down and legally enslaved to US pussies. Even stupid clerical biitches working for DMV, cities, counties and state office are haughty and rude, need to be put in their proper clerical places. Don't let them abuse and exploit you like fools.
[QUOTE=Stolper;3250394]I'm not sure where you are, but I've been in the bowl in multiple major cities. Maybe because I tend to go for the under 30's crowd. Maybe because I've only sugared in the "major" cities, but my experience has been exactly this. The ones who are willing to go straight to FC for little to no money have been AA, Latinas, "Mixed (aka AA)", or not super attractive (at least relative to the non-BP escort market). The ones that are white or Asian and slightly more attractive usually command a much higher rate, something like 400-500 for a night. And I'm talking about the ones actually willing to meet up, not that ones that promise you all sorts of things and don't show up. Maybe you have significantly better luck or a better approach, but from a quick read of your recent LA forum history, all I see are mostly complaints about SBs flaking or promises of FC meetups without follow throughs, or reports about less attractive than expected women. If you're actually meeting a ton of hot women who are going to FC for little to no money, then kudos to you. I'm just pointing out the other side, which is that people reading this forum shouldn't be misled and expect to find gorgeous 9/9 non-AA SBs just dying to have sex with you for less than 4-5 $ sugar.[/QUOTE]And who ever said you ought to be getting this for free? It's called sugar dating. It's not regular. After the excellent experience you've shown with your 9 posts, I am sure everyone is waiting w / bated breath to hear your next pronouncement.
I've had plenty of good experiences. The purpose of this forum in my view is to help each other out, share experiences good and bad, and maybe brag a little. B / c there are very few outlets available to discuss this matter, intrinsically.
So, Captain, you want to run down all the women on SA in favor of the far superior women in Tijuana; perhaps you're just a shill for them and don't like seeing your business drop off b / c we don't need to head to Mexico anymore.
If you want to know about my and other's experience in the bowl, you should really go over to the Richmond VA Sugar Daddy thread (its the defacto national thread, the New York Times of sugaring), and you'll get an eyeful.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3250835]Most women show face piercing, huge tattoos, funny retouched pics, low level or no education, menial and clerical jobs, poor grammar and bad spelling errors. They look like trailer trash to me, but they want to trade whatever little they have to be "taken care of," for world travel, expensive shopping at fancy stores, wine and dine at fancy restaurants, spoiled with flattering and gifts, lots of stupid bullshit. They are dreaming their stupid dreams and make me laugh out of my ass. Hehe.
A few girls use pics copied off the internet, which can be easily found using tineye.
A few list their addresses in tony beach cities, but they actually live somewhere else, and target rich guys living near the beaches.
A few divorcees and alleged college students wanted to do ST quickly to pay expenses.
Messaged a few good-looking young students but they canceled their SA accounts and no longer responded. I hope they found their billionaire sugar daddies.
Found a tall and lanky Russian girl. Her face is not that pretty. She's on a tourist visa, trying to find ways to stay in the US to better her future. She was ready to do ST the next day but flaked out and moved to another town too far for me too meet. She was short of money and would do anything.
An attractive woman wanted to meet at a Starbuck Coffee. I made a mistake inviting her to a quick lunch. She wanted to go to fancy restaurants with a long drive so I had to cancel her. Now she wants to meet only in restaurants, no more Starbucks hehe.
A couple women claimed young children, wanted $20 per hour for baby sitters if we meet.
A fairly attractive business woman drove 50 miles to meet me then drove me out to lunch. She's single now and not so young, but still fairly attractive with her tight assets, with extended family nearby but still lonely, wanting companies for local trips and to be fucked for sure. She agreed to a few driving trips. After lunch I was kissing and groping her in the car. She was in a daze, looking horny for a good fuck, but insisted that she had to go to meetings.
She wanted to meet again next week. Will arrange for a local trips when I will fuck her all night, well, unless her boobs and her ass are too saggy and her pussy too loose that kill off my libido. It's hard to seduce me. I am jaded with the hot, fun, sexy, passionate and tight young spinners in Tijuana hehe. You can say I have many hot, sexy and flirty GF's there. I don't even look at women in the US anymore unless they are young and extremely attractive.
A few other interesting young girls wanted to meet, stating minimal expectations. I will definitely help those with genuine needs, but will play the stupid, greedy, ugly fools with way-inflated sense of self-worth hehe.
BACKPAGE's escort sections are now censored. Most advertisers moved to the dating sections, eventually may be a lot of them will be in SEEKING ARRANGEMENT.
US men have been beaten down and legally enslaved to US pussies. Even stupid clerical biitches working for DMV, cities, counties and state office are haughty and rude, need to be put in their proper clerical places. Don't let them abuse and exploit you like fools.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dolato;3245960]He said 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$ not 10 k. At less than $ per date, that's a good cost per bang.[/QUOTE]In my day we used to call that type of math the CPH factor. Cost Per Hose. LOL.
By laws in most states, exchanging sex for money, or any sorts of valuable compensation, is prostitution. I am surprised there are so many girls and women in may age groups, some with responsible jobs and families, are asking for money to fuck. The feds most likely have undercover agents in all suspected sites already. After busting Craigslist and Backpage, they will go after their next targets. They may even set up stings to trap these sugar babies in their acts.
Almost all girls and women in SA want money in exchange for their companies and of course, sex. They try to manipulate guys into thinking they are good girls, not prostitutes, therefore their sexual services are worth more. Some require long-term arrangements of $5,000 to $8,000 a month for a few meetings and fuck sessions. If they can string 10 guys along, then they can make serious money. Good luck finding those guys and not the cheap mongers who want to fuck for free. Hope the sugar babies won't starve while waiting for their big breaks.
I guess a few old, lonely guys, perhaps drug traffickers, with lots of easy money to burn, may spend that kind of money just to spoil and fuck a few young pussies. Too bad El Chapo is in the slammer. Good luck finding more guys like him who have lots of easy drugs money to waste. Sugar babies may starve while waiting for arrangements with those kinds of guys. Of course getting close to gangsters and criminals can bring serious security risks. With any suspicion of infidelity or snitching to DEA, the bad boys have been known to cut the throats and dispose of their GFs easily.
The woman I just met is not in her 20's but still pretty, tight and firm in all the right places. She acted horny and liked me so much that she started talking about a few trips we will take together. She wanted me to go to her church, WTF? Perhaps she's a sugar mommy and I am her baby hehe.
A few super scholars claimed post graduate degrees but had no ideas what fields they were in, may be just hoing for money hehe. Will look into the finances of a few young and pretty students and help them out accordingly.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3251548]By laws in most states, exchanging sex for money, or any sorts of valuable compensation, is prostitution. I am surprised there are so many girls and women in may age groups, some with responsible jobs and families, are asking for money to fuck. The feds most likely have undercover agents in all suspected sites already. After busting Craigslist and Backpage, they will go after their next targets. They may even set up stings to trap these sugar babies in their acts.
Almost all girls and women in SA want money in exchange for their companies and of course, sex. They try to manipulate guys into thinking they are good girls, not prostitutes, therefore their sexual services are worth more. Some require long-term arrangements of $5,000 to $8,000 a month for a few meetings and fuck sessions. If they can string 10 guys along, then they can make serious money. Good luck finding those guys and not the cheap mongers who want to fuck for free. Hope the sugar babies won't starve while waiting for their big breaks.
I guess a few old, lonely guys, perhaps drug traffickers, with lots of easy money to burn, may spend that kind of money just to spoil and fuck a few young pussies. Too bad El Chapo is in the slammer. Good luck finding more guys like him who have lots of easy drugs money to waste. Sugar babies may starve while waiting for arrangements with those kinds of guys. Of course getting close to gangsters and criminals can bring serious security risks. With any suspicion of infidelity or snitching to DEA, the bad boys have been known to cut the throats and dispose of their GFs easily.
The woman I just met is not in her 20's but still pretty, tight and firm in all the right places. She acted horny and liked me so much that she started talking about a few trips we will take together. She wanted me to go to her church, WTF? Perhaps she's a sugar mommy and I am her baby hehe.
A few super scholars claimed post graduate degrees but had no ideas what fields they were in, may be just hoing for money hehe. Will look into the finances of a few young and pretty students and help them out accordingly.[/QUOTE]I don't pay women for sex. I pay them to leave afterwards.
Charlie Sheen for president!
I paid $75 for 3 months in [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL] just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL] so you don't have to pay subscription.
There are some very attractive and accomplished females in [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL], albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.
In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.
Anyone indulge in this 23 yo sluttty girl?
I have similar experiences as you about SA. SA used to have less pros, but now most of SA gals are pros (in my area. San Diego). Unfortunately, [URL]Match.com[/URL] does not work well for mongers with SO. Like myself.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3252271]I paid $75 for 3 months in [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL] just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL] so you don't have to pay subscription.
There are some very attractive and accomplished females in [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL], albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.
In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.[/QUOTE]
Dog Rice.
That is why I left SA. It was getting so hard wading through the pro's there. SD4 ME was the same. The search for that allusive NP goes on. I, have a SO so my play time is limited.
[QUOTE=DogRice;3252524]I have similar experiences as you about SA. SA used to have less pros, but now most of SA gals are pros (in my area. San Diego). Unfortunately, [URL]Match.com[/URL] does not work well for mongers with SO. Like myself.[/QUOTE]
Now you're talking my language! I'll drink to that!
Dutch.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3252271]I paid $75 for 3 months in [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL] just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL] so you don't have to pay subscription.
There are some very attractive and accomplished females in [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL], albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.
In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SA2222;3252502]Anyone indulge in this 23 yo sluttty girl?[/QUOTE]Would help with link or pic 🤔.
I messaged about 50 of the best -looking young babes.
A few wanted front money to pay for lost phones so they can arrange to meet. Ya right!
A few alleged college students have been texting me again and again, wanting to meet.
Others would go around and around, sending me messages asking what kinds of arrangements I wanted. It's obvious they are just fishing around for the highest prices. Eventually I told them they are the asking parties, so I want the hear their proposals. Their normal range is $300 for 1 hour and $400 for 90 minutes. I suppose prices can be haggled down.
Talked to a few alleged young girls with the prettiest pictures. They sounded very nice and sweet, but would not meet face to face until arrangements have been made, like $2 K to $8 K a month, meeting a few times each month. May be movie stars and Hollywood execs have lots of slush money they can spend on their young fuck toys.
The compensation arrangements range from pay per meet, to supposed long-term exclusive relationships, and anything in between. The young girls were talking details of the arrangements like good contract lawyers. It sure sounds like an established industry to me. A simple signature on a contract may obligate signers to millions in obligations, which can be collected. So be very careful what contracts you sign.
[QUOTE=DogRice;3252524]I have similar experiences as you about SA. SA used to have less pros, but now most of SA gals are pros (in my area. San Diego). Unfortunately, [URL]Match.com[/URL] does not work well for mongers with SO. Like myself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lebruno;3246386]Wow. She looks super delicious. So did she come down from her original price?[/QUOTE]I haven't bothered to ask yet.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3252271]I paid $75 for 3 months in [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL] just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL] so you don't have to pay subscription.
There are some very attractive and accomplished females in [URL]MATCH.COM[/URL], albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.
In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.[/QUOTE]You get what you put into it. I stick by my prior statement. There are many hot girls you can get for $$ a date (meaning $$ cash to her). Maybe asian and super hot white girls are $$$. There may be extras like a room or a meal or whatever (or not). You will need some game to do it. But it's very doable. Any race. Any age. Just develop your game. And read their profiles.
Look for girls that says they dont know what they are looking for, or that want a real connection, or that like to chill at home, etc.
Does that mean every girl is to be had? Of course not. But with so many competing for your business, its just about having to spend the hours. And it is a lot of hours. If you dont have the time then you are going to spend more. Maybe a lot more. God has blessed me with a love for AA women so I do get off a bit easier for sure. AA models are $$ all day. And for a $ I have no trouble getting ones with great bodies even if they are less in the looks dept. But far from average. But it comes down to game. My x the stripper who routinely turns down 5 bills for sex (and never takes less than a $ just to go on a dinner date) is currently more than happy to let me off easy. But thats a LTR that I have a lot of time invested into. But if all you have to offer (or want to offer) is cash. Expect to pay more.
For now I will stick to my $ girls, and there are no shortages.
Truth is, lots of those SA women are overweight, look trashy with piercing and tattoos, not my types. I would never fuck them.
Most will quickly agree to ST sessions from $200 to $500 plus hotels, which can be steep. Did find a fairly good-looking business woman in her 30's. Went to lunch with her and got along great. She just wants fun and to release stress hehe.
The hot ones won't meet until they have long-term arrangements, costing $5 K to $8 K a month to meet 3 to 4 times. Not even sure if their pics are real. I suppose if they keep fishing they may find a few guys with big money in Los Angeles who can afford to spoil their sugar babies with that kind of money.
This girl April told me she's still going to school, volunteering for Suicide Prevention ect. Then she ratted off clauses in the agreement and different levels of pricing like a lawyer. If any guys stupid enough to sign such agreement, they may be liable for big money that can be collected in court. Collection lawyers are cheap and ready. Meanwhile she can string along dozens guys at the same time. This looks like a big scam.
I have other alternatives with known better quality that cost much less time and money.
Will not renew the SA sub.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3252953]You get what you put into it. I stick by my prior statement. There are many hot girls you can get for $$ a date (meaning $$ cash to her). Maybe asian and super hot white girls are $$$. There may be extras like a room or a meal or whatever (or not). You will need some game to do it. But it's very doable. Any race. Any age. Just develop your game. And read their profiles.
Look for girls that says they dont know what they are looking for, or that want a real connection, or that like to chill at home, etc.
Does that mean every girl is to be had? Of course not. But with so many competing for your business, its just about having to spend the hours. And it is a lot of hours. If you dont have the time then you are going to spend more. Maybe a lot more. God has blessed me with a love for AA women so I do get off a bit easier for sure. AA models are $$ all day. And for a $ I have no trouble getting ones with great bodies even if they are less in the looks dept. But far from average. But it comes down to game. My x the stripper who routinely turns down 5 bills for sex (and never takes less than a $ just to go on a dinner date) is currently more than happy to let me off easy. But thats a LTR that I have a lot of time invested into. But if all you have to offer (or want to offer) is cash. Expect to pay more.
For now I will stick to my $ girls, and there are no shortages.[/QUOTE]
I have always given money to girls, women, even friends in need. No problems with that. I just hate the stupid little games these women play about dates and sex, which are not available until you pay. These women are all pay-for-play fuck toys.
There are plenty beautiful young women available for play that cost a lot less time and money. One sweet and very beautiful young girl in NewPort Beach would do a full hour massage and sex in her hotel room for $100. An Asian woman in her late 20's with banging body would do suck and fuck in her hotel room for $50. She works in Anaheim near Disney. PM me if you want her tel. At least they are honest about what they do and deserve my respect.
I would drive down to Tijuana about every week and party with dozens of hot young girls in bars. Some of those girls look and feel as good as super models. Even some of the $20 girls on the streets look good enough to turn heads in Los Angeles. I can speak only very little Spanish and the girls very little English. We can't do meaningful conversation, not sure if I even want to get into deep personal relationships with them, but enough interaction that I have enough fun and sexual fulfillment every week hehe. The Mexican girls are at least honest about what they want.
Will not waste any more time chasing old, ugly, trashy gold diggers in SA, who play hard games to extract maximum money from me.
[QUOTE=DutchTreat;3252674]Now you're talking my language! I'll drink to that!
Dutch.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3253195]Truth is, lots of those SA women are overweight, look trashy with piercing and tattoos, not my types. I would never fuck them.
Most will quickly agree to ST sessions from $200 to $500 plus hotels, which can be steep. Did find a fairly good-looking business woman in her 30's. Went to lunch with her and got along great. She just wants fun and to release stress hehe.
The hot ones won't meet until they have long-term arrangements, costing $5 K to $8 K a month to meet 3 to 4 times. Not even sure if their pics are real. I suppose if they keep fishing they may find a few guys with big money in Los Angeles who can afford to spoil their sugar babies with that kind of money.
This girl April told me she's still going to school, volunteering for Suicide Prevention ect. Then she ratted off clauses in the agreement and different levels of pricing like a lawyer. If any guys stupid enough to sign such agreement, they may be liable for big money that can be collected in court. Collection lawyers are cheap and ready. Meanwhile she can string along dozens guys at the same time. This looks like a big scam.
I have other alternatives with known better quality that cost much less time and money.
Will not renew the SA sub.[/QUOTE]K the horse is pretty well beaten to death so why keep beating it. You don't like SA. Its not for everyone and pretty clear not for you. Move on to what's your cup of tea.
OK, you've given your opinion on SA. Not your thing, not your cup of tea. Gotcha. Move on. Next topic. No problem. For me, however, for HG and others, it has worked. A lot of work, granted, and I can get a 20 something "Amazo. Hottie" off HX all day long for a lot less trouble but I, just me talking here, doesn't have to be you, have found some women there who are a blast! Are they 8,9,10's? Nope. But they truly get into it, do incredible things with and to me that no amount of cheddar on HX will get me. Call me a softie but I also, like a lot of the ladies there am looking for an emotional connection along with the 'tang. My MO is to hit it hard for a month or so and let the natural process of attrition take over until I boil it down to a couple or even one who is what I'm looking for. Until I get bored and do it all over again!
To each his own, no harm no foul.
Oh, and, I'm sure you will want to flame me with whatever names you feel appropo since I don't happen to agree with you. Flame away.
[QUOTE=Raslan;3253360]OK, you've given your opinion on SA. Not your thing, not your cup of tea. Gotcha. Move on. Next topic. No problem. For me, however, for HG and others, it has worked. A lot of work, granted, and I can get a 20 something "Amazo. Hottie" off HX all day long for a lot less trouble but I, just me talking here, doesn't have to be you, have found some women there who are a blast! Are they 8,9,10's? Nope. But they truly get into it, do incredible things with and to me that no amount of cheddar on HX will get me. Call me a softie but I also, like a lot of the ladies there am looking for an emotional connection along with the 'tang. My MO is to hit it hard for a month or so and let the natural process of attrition take over until I boil it down to a couple or even one who is what I'm looking for. Until I get bored and do it all over again!
To each his own, no harm no foul.
Oh, and, I'm sure you will want to flame me with whatever names you feel appropo since I don't happen to agree with you. Flame away.[/QUOTE]Its kinda like going out to dinner. You can just go to mastros and get the best steak in town (for top dollar) or you can look for the hidden gems (like taylors). Maybe not as good, but more than satisfying for half the price. Also I do believe we all do SA looking for the "fresher" girls. The mileage that a known pro has may not be so appealing to some and not a big deal to others. I prefer the raw talent as opposed to the more experienced providers (that may not be all that anyway), from all that I have read and experienced.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;3243423]African American.[/QUOTE]This was in response to my question as to what AF means. I found on another thread it refers to the Arrangement Finders site too.