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I've seen stories that would have you believe that the majority of Asian Massage girls are victims of trafficking. This story gives a different view.
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ywak3j/asian-massage-parlors-with-happy-endings-give-these-sex-workers-a-decent-living?utm_campaign=sharebutton[/URL]
I wish all DA's had the same attitude as the one in San Fran.
[URL]https://avn.com/business/articles/legal/incoming-sf-da-we-wont-prosecute-consensual-sex-work-853787.html[/URL]#.
Interesting read. Safe mongering everyone. It's funny that $10 BJ though, the price is simply way too low!! Dead giveaway.
[URL]https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/[/URL]
[QUOTE=BedBrayBeyond;4548683]Interesting read. Safe mongering everyone. It's funny that $10 BJ though, the price is simply way too low!! Dead giveaway.
[URL]https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/[/URL][/QUOTE]All this time and resources wasted on people having consensual sex. That's more of a priority than catching bad guys using guns.
"60% of the money collected from johns' fines goes to support the Women's Justice Program, the other 40% goes to juvenile justice programs. ".
Who pays for 3 hotel rooms, police salaries, equipment like squad cars, radios etc. But the real price to be paid is that law enforcement is now preoccupied while there is real crime left unattended.
[QUOTE=BedBrayBeyond;4548683]Interesting read. Safe mongering everyone. It's funny that $10 BJ though, the price is simply way too low!! Dead giveaway.
[URL]https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Satriani;4549959]"60% of the money collected from johns' fines goes to support the Women's Justice Program, the other 40% goes to juvenile justice programs. ".
Who pays for 3 hotel rooms, police salaries, equipment like squad cars, radios etc. But the real price to be paid is that law enforcement is now preoccupied while there is real crime left unattended.[/QUOTE]Those are all paid for with the federal money they get when they classify it under trafficking. That seems to be the main reason soo many are claiming it is all trafficking, so they can justify the man hours, get the funds and not pursue the hard criminals / gangs / murders.
[QUOTE=LoveSmallPerky;4550251]Those are all paid for with the federal money they get when they classify it under trafficking. That seems to be the main reason soo many are claiming it is all trafficking, so they can justify the man hours, get the funds and not pursue the hard criminals / gangs / murders.[/QUOTE]We the Taxpayers are funding these escort stings.
[QUOTE=RonM;4549453]All this time and resources wasted on people having consensual sex. That's more of a priority than catching bad guys using guns.[/QUOTE]Don't forget how they all get to pose in front of the tv cameras patting each other on the back and throwing-out their normal platitudes about " stopping human trafficking". WTF?? Really?? Now, the vast majority of the escorts they encounter are of legal age, independent and doing this of their own free will. Many do not have the skills to hold down a 9-5 job and are willingly selling sexual favors to provide for themselves and their children. So by stopping, arresting and fining them; how exactly are you " helping them " Or is it another bullshit holier than thou campaign where you can act like " you're really making a difference " while you harass sex workers and their clients who aren't breaking any laws besides your puritanical views of sex. Really operating as legal bullies punishing regular people while they pretend that " they're fighting crime and saving children from being trafficked ". But they get they face on tv and feed the public their bullshit. Like the big massage parlor bust when they threw out the term of " human trafficking " willy-nilly. They got a lot of publicity out of that. Though months later when it was revealed they made ZERO arrests for human trafficking. But don't let facts get in the way of your " legal crusade". They have all the shootings, drugs, gangs, robberies and reckless high-speed driving under control so they can really concentrate on the real crisis gripping our society, paid BJ's! Rant over.
[QUOTE=BedBrayBeyond;4548683]Interesting read. Safe mongering everyone. It's funny that $10 BJ though, the price is simply way too low!! Dead giveaway.
[URL]https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/[/URL][/QUOTE]Typical Chicago way of collecting money through variety of fines to support the corrupted administration. The only good thing is that it doesn't go on record so no need to cry although it will be hard to explain to your wife of girlfriend how your car got towed. Also I've never been to a hotel with a keyhole, they all have card even the Red Roof. Anyway we just have to be careful to border line paranoid.
[QUOTE=LoveSmallPerky;4550251]Those are all paid for with the federal money they get when they classify it under trafficking. That seems to be the main reason soo many are claiming it is all trafficking, so they can justify the man hours, get the funds and not pursue the hard criminals / gangs / murders.[/QUOTE]That word has become a catch all phrase in our politically correct world. Ditto the patriot act! Really? Take away more of our founding father given rights and call it a patriot act! Before I get flagged for politics I will digress here. This all reminds me of a stripper and topless waitress I represented amongst others in the 90's. One day she comes into my office with a newspaper clipping (remember those?) and says guess what? I am like ok, I'll engage. Now keep in mind even though I had multiple opportunities to pimp out some of these ladies I did not. I am talking bachelor, divorce, card parties is all. Well the article showed her real name, of which since I was doing business with her I already knew, and how a group of girls that she booked as well as herself got busted for prostitution. What she told me line by line and in verse was the following- the cops stayed for several hours enjoying and partaking in all that was offered which of course included the reverse triangle and THEN busted them. She was pissed and one cop told her look if we logged in all of this surveillance time and did not come back with collars we would be chewed out by our supervisor! So I totally believe what is happening here in this current story.
[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;4551137]That word has become a catch all phrase in our politically correct world. Ditto the patriot act! Really? Take away more of our founding father given rights and call it a patriot act! Before I get flagged for politics I will digress here. This all reminds me of a stripper and topless waitress I represented amongst others in the 90's. One day she comes into my office with a newspaper clipping (remember those?) and says guess what? I am like ok, I'll engage. Now keep in mind even though I had multiple opportunities to pimp out some of these ladies I did not. I am talking bachelor, divorce, card parties is all. Well the article showed her real name, of which since I was doing business with her I already knew, and how a group of girls that she booked as well as herself got busted for prostitution. What she told me line by line and in verse was the following- the cops stayed for several hours enjoying and partaking in all that was offered which of course included the reverse triangle and THEN busted them. She was pissed and one cop told her look if we logged in all of this surveillance time and did not come back with collars we would be chewed out by our supervisor! So I totally believe what is happening here in this current story.[/QUOTE]Maybe twelve years ago, a woman I used to see regularly when she came into town every two months told me she got busted by cpd. She had been careful the first time I saw her— insisted on RS then. She told me a guy came to her hotel room downtown who had been cleared by room service. Did the deed and spent about 90 minutes with her and then busted her. They confiscated her phone, her laptop and about $1200 in cash. She called me asking for a referral to a criminal defense attorney which I gave her. Later on, she related that the charges were dismissed, she never got her phone or her cash back. I think most of all, she was offended that the cop banged the hell out of her before busting her.
[QUOTE=Randolph;4552151]Maybe twelve years ago, a woman I used to see regularly when she came into town every two months told me she got busted by cpd. She had been careful the first time I saw her insisted on RS then. She told me a guy came to her hotel room downtown who had been cleared by room service. Did the deed and spent about 90 minutes with her and then busted her. They confiscated her phone, her laptop and about $1200 in cash. She called me asking for a referral to a criminal defense attorney which I gave her. Later on, she related that the charges were dismissed, she never got her phone or her cash back. I think most of all, she was offended that the cop banged the hell out of her before busting her.[/QUOTE]Corruption and discrimination has gone no where and will go no where. The ghetto will always be the ghetto. Now if one wants to believe the idiot box talking heads, sure go ahead. All for the benefit of the tourista and more important their dollars. That pro I knew started in the biz working for an agency and she also answered phones for them as she had an incredibly sexy and friendly voice. Oh yea! Anyway a competitor dropped the dime on the agency she was working for an when cpd came in to bust all they knew that the owner had cash stashed under the floor under a desk and of course what was reported as confiscated was nowhere near what they actually found. So go ahead people believe the hype. I am an old timer, however I grew up and continue to find out the real truth and think on my feet and with both my heads prior to moving on a situation. Stay safe boys. Stosh. Out!
[QUOTE=StanKost;4550808]Typical Chicago way of collecting money through variety of fines to support the corrupted administration. The only good thing is that it doesn't go on record so no need to cry although it will be hard to explain to your wife of girlfriend how your car got towed. Also I've never been to a hotel with a keyhole, they all have card even the Red Roof. Anyway we just have to be careful to border line paranoid.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's tempting to think of L E as crime reduction and there is an aspect of their role but the blue are around mostly for revenue generation. Just a few weeks ago was in a hick town with no street lighting no signage, got pulled over and slapped with a ticket because I failed to signal a turn in time. It's like the cop was literally a troll collecting bridge money. "Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Um, because your city has no internal economic engine?
Also, I read this quote from the Time article makes no sense and felt embarrassed for the author:
The sexual cornucopia they think they are owed.
Like if you go to the store and buy a loaf of bread are you accused of thinking you are owed? Does the author not understand what a financial transaction is? Christ.
[QUOTE=GoHomeSmiling;4553074]Yeah, it's tempting to think of L E as crime reduction and there is an aspect of their role but the blue are around mostly for revenue generation. Just a few weeks ago was in a hick town with no street lighting no signage, got pulled over and slapped with a ticket because I failed to signal a turn in time. It's like the cop was literally a troll collecting bridge money. "Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Um, because your city has no internal economic engine?
Also, I read this quote from the Time article makes no sense and felt embarrassed for the author:
The sexual cornucopia they think they are owed.
Like if you go to the store and buy a loaf of bread are you accused of thinking you are owed? Does the author not understand what a financial transaction is? Christ.[/QUOTE]Why I pulled you over? My answer for the last 51 plus years- absolutely no clue, officer. Of course most all fuzz especially in our burbs around here are trolling for driving infractions. Cpd tends to not get too involved in all of that unless you are really f**king up. Been my experience anyway. And as far as the altruistic attitude that they are on the job to improve the community and to see that justice is served is complete bs, imo. All the cops I met in chi mostly in 1 or 12 would tell me that no one wants to be a cop any longer. The money is great, ditto the benifits and pension and if a guy or gal went in early they can get out early and still have a decent life left. Also I have met few cops or fire guys that don't have a side cash job. They know in advance where they will be and when as it's all in their union contract.
[QUOTE=RonM;4549453]All this time and resources wasted on people having consensual sex. That's more of a priority than catching bad guys using guns.[/QUOTE]I agree. They should be catching real criminal acts.