Philly Sugar

I apologize for incorrect link. Thanks for the info even though it's disappointing that she is a lousy lay. Anybody else have similar experience with her?

Thanks and Be Safe.

[QUOTE=HenryT458;5494315]Now that I fixed the link. That is Kayla. I fucked her. She was 400. She insisted on covered sex. She was 19 YO when I saw her and not a great fuck. She is cute and has a good body but she was 19 so that is to be expected at her age. I met her a second time hoping things would improve with familiarity. They did not. An average fuck at best. I didn't return.[/QUOTE]

I am curious how to get around giving out my Mr and Mrs credit card numbers when trying to get in the door with SB. I now have purchased a master card debit card that they (master card) won't accept because its a subscription. Just curious if anyone has a work around to keep it on the down low at home?

I use to use visa vanilla card for SA and SB. They changed a few years back on what they would accept so now you have to use cards that can be used internationally like Amex gift cards or centurian Visa cards. Just remember to do the transaction via a vpn to conceal the transaction.

Best of luck and Be Safe.

[QUOTE=BawMore1;5498844]I am curious how to get around giving out my Mr and Mrs credit card numbers when trying to get in the door with SB. I now have purchased a master card debit card that they (master card) won't accept because its a subscription. Just curious if anyone has a work around to keep it on the down low at home?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BawMore1;5498844]I am curious how to get around giving out my Mr and Mrs credit card numbers when trying to get in the door with SB. I now have purchased a master card debit card that they (master card) won't accept because its a subscription. Just curious if anyone has a work around to keep it on the down low at home?[/QUOTE]I'm with BurbsMonger, the OneVannilla is the way to go with SA. That worked as recently as a month ago.

Not sure about SB however. Suggest you look on the FAQ section or contact Cust Svcs at SB and ask which prepaid cards they accept. That kind of question should be answered ASAP as they want to collect the $ and the only time SB gets paid is when you buy credits.

The point of the OneVanilla is that, I believe, it works with foreign transactions and I believe these sites use overseas processors? That maybe why the MC no worky? Hope if I'm wrong someone chimes in.

But kudos to you for looking for a way to keep this private! Pay cash for the purchase of the OneVanilla, wear your mask and don't buy it in any place you frequent.

But a question. Why SB? Seems like general reports are that SA is better than SB. Once one signs up with SA one can contact as many girls as they can/wish in a month. With SB you burn credits to contact girls and some reports suggest there are many fake profiles and even bots that contact you to get you to respond and spend credits. After all, the only thing SB is selling are credits, so the incentive is to get you to spend as many as possible, to have to buy more.

I appreciate the several of you that sent me dms on this one. I decided to pass as several of you confirmed that she is way overpriced and provides a very lackluster experience. I am grateful that you toftt and apologize for the poor return on investment. Saved me the time and expense.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;5494481]I apologize for incorrect link. Thanks for the info even though it's disappointing that she is a lousy lay. Anybody else have similar experience with her?

Thanks and Be Safe.[/QUOTE]

Are students coming back to campus this semester? There seems to be a much lower number of college age girls on site than 2 years ago. One "student" I texted with says her semester already started. I am wondering if that is true.

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;5518404]Are students coming back to campus this semester? There seems to be a much lower number of college age girls on site than 2 years ago. One "student" I texted with says her semester already started. I am wondering if that is true.[/QUOTE]Classes begin August 31. Move in days were this week. I've noticed a slight uptick in new profiles, but not what I have been hoping for.

Has anyone seen Mandee from West Chester? She messaged me but my account isn't active. She has a look I like and is nearby. If she's real I might pay for another month.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/05b00dbe-6d30-4292-8d19-dd4d1a95d518[/URL]

Agreed, I have seen some additional profiles but no where near the number in years past. After a few weeks in school, money starts to get tight so you might see lower expectations shortly, at least I am hoping.

Be Safe.

QUOTE=MerryIvory;5518506]Classes begin August 31. Move in days were this week. I've noticed a slight uptick in new profiles, but not what I have been hoping for.

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but the SB I've been seeing for a few months is interested in being with a woman, either alone or in a threesome with us. She's looking to give DATY more than receive but I assume both. I suggested lining up an escort I know who sees women and I believe is gay IRL (Latte Luv) but she kind of balked at the pay for sex part of it (ironically).

I'm vaguely aware of swinger clubs like The Pleasure Garden Club over by Purple Orchid. Is that an option? Anyone know what it's like? Can she do a little girl on girl action there?

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5526504]Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but the SB I've been seeing for a few months is interested in being with a woman, either alone or in a threesome with us. She's looking to give DATY more than receive but I assume both. I suggested lining up an escort I know who sees women and I believe is gay IRL (Latte Luv) but she kind of balked at the pay for sex part of it (ironically).

I'm vaguely aware of swinger clubs like The Pleasure Garden Club over by Purple Orchid. Is that an option? Anyone know what it's like? Can she do a little girl on girl action there?[/QUOTE]

Why don't you join one of the Swinger websites? I'm guessing there is a list on The Pleasure Garden Club website. SLS comes to mind. That way BOTH of you can review the girl, trade emails with her and get a vibe or not. This is adult dating and now instead or two people having to vibe, you need to get 3 to vibe.

What you are looking for, a singe female (SF), is in the swinging world a unicorn! Everyone wants them: single guys, couples and other single females. So SFs figure this out early in their ventures in 'the lifestyle' and quite a few of them become divas. Even the BBWs! But just like the SB sites SFs on the swinger sites get TONNES of emails, so a no reply situation isn't uncommon. But with patience and the right attitude you should fin success!

Now if you venture into the Lifestyle, you need to be honest. Lots of drama and potential drama there so many will "interview" you to see who you are and what you are about as a way to avoid any drama. As such if there is a large age difference between you and your SB that will be noted and asked about that. What is your story going to be?

While Swinging is, in many ways, a "liberal" kind of thing, there are a number of unwritten rules out there that are VERY conservative. Thus, just like your SB doesn't want to engage a P2 P situation, many swingers look down on or frown on P2 P situations. It may be viewed as a risk situation. Pros could be looked at as unclean or unsafe. After all, this is recreational sex and in many swinger's minds anyone who has to P2 P must be "off" in some way.

Now a few questions that you could focus on [i](for you two, no need to answer here)[/i], and perhaps it was brevity that they weren't stated here. 1) How did her desire arise to play with a woman and what is behind that? 2) What EXACTLY is she looking for from the F2F contact? Kissing? Mutual touching? Toys? Give/receive DATY? Strap-on play? You said you assumed... 3) Are you part of the equation and how? Leaving them alone? Just watching? Watching and then joining in? All 3 together at once? Overall point is that most couples (and you two are a "couple") that are successful have excellent communication and discuss everything involved, all possibilities as a way to avoid in encounter speed bumps or drama.

But kudos to you! First, you found a SB that has hung around for several months! Then she feels comfortable enough with you to be willing to explore her sexuality with you!

It came up in conversation that when she got on SA she was also on Tinder looking for a woman. She's interested in the whole experience, but focused on giving oral. I offered to set her up with Latte Love who I'm pretty sure is gay IRL. It was just going to be the two of them, but if it worked out I would also be open to a threesome. That still might happen (the 2 of them), but Latte travels constantly and was already out of town when I reached out. As an aside, Latte also kind of chastised me for playing the middle man, saying she'd be more comfortable just hearing from the woman. I've never had a threesome (although I've thought about it with Stacey and Karla advertising them in DE) so it wasn't really my motivation, just trying to do something nice.

I guess I've been seeing her for about 6 months, 1-2 x / week. Sometimes a straight up booty call, but more often dates. Dinner, music, sports etc. She's met some of my friends as well. We've done a handful of overnights but that's a bit challenging with her kids. Next up is a weekend in NYC. Lots of contact outside of that as well, mostly texts. All in all it's been great. Part of that is being really open and honest about sex. For example, she asked me if I was having sex with other women so I said yes and told her more or less what (AMPs, stripper extras etc) but also said she's the only person I'm having unprotected sex with. She also asked how I met my last "SB" who was really just a prostitute who grew into a SB. No issues with either response, AFAIK. And the sex just keeps getting better. It's also pretty amazing to be involved with someone in this way who is NOT a drug user. I don't want to go through that again, ever.

I don't think I'm ready for the swinger thing, seems a bit much. Thanks for the low down. It just occurred to me it might be an option for her so I thought I'd ask.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5527817]Why don't you join one of the Swinger websites? I'm guessing there is a list on The Pleasure Garden Club website. SLS comes to mind. That way BOTH of you can review the girl, trade emails with her and get a vibe or not. This is adult dating and now instead or two people having to vibe, you need to get 3 to vibe.

What you are looking for, a singe female (SF), is in the swinging world a unicorn! Everyone wants them: single guys, couples and other single females. So SFs figure this out early in their ventures in 'the lifestyle' and quite a few of them become divas. Even the BBWs! But just like the SB sites SFs on the swinger sites get TONNES of emails, so a no reply situation isn't uncommon. But with patience and the right attitude you should fin success!

Now if you venture into the Lifestyle, you need to be honest. Lots of drama and potential drama there so many will "interview" you to see who you are and what you are about as a way to avoid any drama. As such if there is a large age difference between you and your SB that will be noted and asked about that. What is your story going to be?

While Swinging is, in many ways, a "liberal" kind of thing, there are a number of unwritten rules out there that are VERY conservative. Thus, just like your SB doesn't want to engage a P2 P situation, many swingers look down on or frown on P2 P situations. It may be viewed as a risk situation. Pros could be looked at as unclean or unsafe. After all, this is recreational sex and in many swinger's minds anyone who has to P2 P must be "off" in some way.

Now a few questions that you could focus on [i](for you two, no need to answer here)[/i], and perhaps it was brevity that they weren't stated here. 1) How did her desire arise to play with a woman and what is behind that? 2) What EXACTLY is she looking for from the F2F contact? Kissing? Mutual touching? Toys? Give/receive DATY? Strap-on play? You said you assumed... 3) Are you part of the equation and how? Leaving them alone? Just watching? Watching and then joining in? All 3 together at once? Overall point is that most couples (and you two are a "couple") that are successful have excellent communication and discuss everything involved, all possibilities as a way to avoid in encounter speed bumps or drama.

But kudos to you! First, you found a SB that has hung around for several months! Then she feels comfortable enough with you to be willing to explore her sexuality with you![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5527956]It came up in conversation that when she got on SA she was also on Tinder looking for a woman. She's interested in the whole experience, but focused on giving oral. I offered to set her up with Latte Love who I'm pretty sure is gay IRL. It was just going to be the two of them, but if it worked out I would also be open to a threesome. That still might happen (the 2 of them), but Latte travels constantly and was already out of town when I reached out. As an aside, Latte also kind of chastised me for playing the middle man, saying she'd be more comfortable just hearing from the woman. I've never had a threesome (although I've thought about it with Stacey and Karla advertising them in DE) so it wasn't really my motivation, just trying to do something nice.

I guess I've been seeing her for about 6 months, 1-2 x / week. Sometimes a straight up booty call, but more often dates. Dinner, music, sports etc. She's met some of my friends as well. We've done a handful of overnights but that's a bit challenging with her kids. Next up is a weekend in NYC. Lots of contact outside of that as well, mostly texts. All in all it's been great. Part of that is being really open and honest about sex. For example, she asked me if I was having sex with other women so I said yes and told her more or less what (AMPs, stripper extras etc) but also said she's the only person I'm having unprotected sex with. She also asked how I met my last "SB" who was really just a prostitute who grew into a SB. No issues with either response, AFAIK. And the sex just keeps getting better. It's also pretty amazing to be involved with someone in this way who is NOT a drug user. I don't want to go through that again, ever.

I don't think I'm ready for the swinger thing, seems a bit much. Thanks for the low down. It just occurred to me it might be an option for her so I thought I'd ask.[/QUOTE]Just a general dumb question, please don't shoot the messenger. But Latte Love is right. Why are you in the middle of this? IF F2 F is something the SB wants to do, let her do it. You can be supportive without driving the bus. Why would I want to pay some girl to hook up with my SB? Perhaps the SB would be put off by a hard core dyke or a pro sex provider?

There is a kinda unwritten rule in the Lifestyle. The women are really in charge. The women make the final decision as to who plays, so let her decide who she wants and then feel her out as to if you are welcome to join and what would be your role in the encounter. So let her do her thing, looking around. Resist the temptation to be "Mr. Fixit" in this situation, unless specifically requested.

But in general it sounds like she is more of a GF than a SB at this point? Not judging, just observing.

Good luck and have fun!

Well, she's never set up time with an escort before and I was willing to pay. I took Latte's chiding. She's right. So when she comes back around I'm make my offer to my SB again and send her the link. That said, as I mentioned in the other post she seemed uncomfortable about the 'paying for sex' part. I had zero issues with paying for a woman to hook up with her. It's something she said she wanted and I proposed a way to get (one she had not considered). Like any other gift.

As far as being girlfriend vs SB, in my mind if I'm paying a weekly stipend she's still a SB (and I am). That said, it's a very GFE situation, which I'm enjoying (and I think she is too). Sometimes I ask myself why do I prefer this kind of relationship right now and part of the answer is coming out of a long marriage I don't want to be in a relationship where I'm constantly trying to get sex. There's no question we're having sex when we see each, usually more than once. The other issue is my work and personal life is pretty complicated at this point so this was my way to simplify my sex life.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5528438]Just a general dumb question, please don't shoot the messenger. But Latte Love is right. Why are you in the middle of this? IF F2 F is something the SB wants to do, let her do it. You can be supportive without driving the bus. Why would I want to pay some girl to hook up with my SB? Perhaps the SB would be put off by a hard core dyke or a pro sex provider?

There is a kinda unwritten rule in the Lifestyle. The women are really in charge. The women make the final decision as to who plays, so let her decide who she wants and then feel her out as to if you are welcome to join and what would be your role in the encounter. So let her do her thing, looking around. Resist the temptation to be "Mr. Fixit" in this situation, unless specifically requested.

But in general it sounds like she is more of a GF than a SB at this point? Not judging, just observing.

Good luck and have fun![/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6044540e-c164-46e2-84b3-b7d1beffb4bc[/URL]

Gents any info on this one? I'm chatting with her but it's hard to get a handle on what she's really about.