The Massholes

[QUOTE=Admin2;2064993][BLUE]I never expected the backlash on the Bombshell issue. As I often do when presented with a conundrum like this I put the question out to a couple threads that I participate in as a guy not an Admin. I asked the guys in The Octagon (Cincy) and The Massholes (Boston) what they thought. The response wasn't overwhelming but the majority was clear. Ban the users, don't inhibit the convo.

With some stuff we have to dictate terms, but with community issues I like to solicit feedback. Clearly I was in the wrong on this one. Subsequently in the future I won't be doing that anymore. The policy will be to ban the user but not the convo.

Plumber I've taken you off moderation and removed all the notes from what happened. I realize that your posts had an agenda but I was the one responsible for starting it and I was on the wrong side. Apologies.

For you guys that contributed about this in MCM, thanks.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]It's a done deal.

[QUOTE=Rito1;2065263]My opinion is you did the right thing. The only exception is I think we should be able to post reviews on everyone. What if she becomes a shitty provider and we can't relay that. We all lose.[/QUOTE]Was no comments unless it's a shitty review. I want to thank you guys that contributed here both personally and [BLUE]professionally[/BLUE] for the hand. I have probably overreacted in the past with this issue because I fucking hate it when chicks make user accounts and try and post for themselves. Maybe it's because I have a couple conniving ex wives, I don't know but dishonesty just really pisses me the fuck off. It's why I publicly humiliate the assholes that have multiple accounts and use them to buttress their own arguments. I just hate that shit.

Again, thanks to the guys (and Deb) that took the time to respond. Your comments weighed heavily on my decision to change the way I handle this issue going forward.

A2.

[QUOTE=StressedOut;2065165]Hey Yellow..now we have a good rapport here on USA. Some good leads, info and good pm's. Now I don't give a care if you want to get your shots in here at Sperm. I've stayed here on the sideline enjoying the show. But I'm going to respectfully ask that you keep your shots to those that are involved and giving them. I certainly don't remember Deb getting involved or giving you any shots here during this 'war'. So don't bring her into the conversation especially with the comments you made. Again I am asking respectfully here and I expect the in kind return.
And before you ask yes Deb is capable of answering for herself however I would rather not put her in the position to have to do so. (other positions yes lol) Thanks SO.[/QUOTE]SO, My shots were taken at Sperm Guzzler. As my esteemed fellow members have already stated any member is open game in this thread including myself. I think you have forgotten the rules of this forum and thread because what you are doing is telling me how to post, what I can say or not say and who I can say it about.

And I do have a big ass, always have even when I was thinner LOL. And as far as eating corn, I am a vegetarian so it is possible. But to eat it? Not into brown showers, I don't partake in that fetish LOL.

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2065491]SO, My shots were taken at Sperm Guzzler. As my esteemed fellow members have already stated any member is open game in this thread including myself. I think you have forgotten the rules of this forum and thread because what you are doing is telling me how to post, what I can say or not say and who I can say it about.[/QUOTE]I haven't forgotten the rules of the forum. I didn't tell you how to post nor did I tell you what to say..I simply asked (politely) or stuck up for anyone (monger or provider) who gets an underhanded shot needlessly and w / out provocation. And if you check my posts you will see this has been done consistently over the past. I know the shots were taken at Sperm (how can we forget since it has been needlessly going on for at least a week) and we are ALL open game in this forum. But if I'm having a pissing contest with xxxx about an issue I have with him and I compare him to you and call you a cock sucking little dick of a man and you aren't involved in the pissing contest to begin with then you are going to have a problem with me. Right? That's all I ask of you and others. Now if our friend A2 finds this acceptable then I will be happy to oblige and take needless shots with every post I make in THIS forum. And acc to your logic this will be ok since you can't tell me what to say, who to say it to or under what circumstances to say it. And sadly I guess I'm off your good list.....too bad since we have shared some good info in the past.

[QUOTE=PwHerman;2065241]SO, with all due respect, Deb has decided, on her own, to participate in a "no holds barred" forum. By doing so she opens herself up to any criticism levied.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with you PW. And you are absolutely right. She / me and anyone else is open to any criticism she deserves for any post she makes, any review she receives or any other comment that deserves a backlash or criticism. What I was getting at is that the criticism leveled should be for something deserved and not 'collateral damage' in someone else's pissing contest. Just like if someone took a shot at me or you out of the blue because they were pissed at someone else.

Now if someone wants to take a shot at me for sticking up for Deb...and BTW I have stuck up for many mongers and providers over time....then so be it. I'm open to that....I put myself in that position so go ahead.

Of course I think it seems just a little bit interesting that the shot was taken at the only provider that posts here (and there has been more than one shot at her by YF (see post 147) and was personal in nature. A little sexist maybe. If YF had told Sperm to go suck someone's little dick then....oh well another day here in Massholes.

[QUOTE=StressedOut;2065165]Hey Yellow..now we have a good rapport here on USA. Some good leads, info and good pm's. Now I don't give a care if you want to get your shots in here at Sperm. I've stayed here on the sideline enjoying the show. But I'm going to respectfully ask that you keep your shots to those that are involved and giving them. I certainly don't remember Deb getting involved or giving you any shots here during this 'war'. So don't bring her into the conversation especially with the comments you made. Again I am asking respectfully here and I expect the in kind return.
And before you ask yes Deb is capable of answering for herself however I would rather not put her in the position to have to do so. (other positions yes lol) Thanks SO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2065136]Spermbag, the only purpose you serve here is to post useless commentary and eat the corn out of Deb's shit on your way to kissing her fat ass. Get back under your rock.[/QUOTE]It seems clear that YF is pointing out the ceaseless Deb rumpswabbing obsession of Spermsac and in the heat of the moment used her ass as a metaphor. I suspect that your preference would be to have this become the Kumbaya thread however as has been pointed out everything is fair game here including Deb's ass. I know you have met Deb personally and formed a bond however in the past you have also been known to suck up to more than a few providers who were members here however they were providers you had never met and you went on and on about how great they were even though you had no personal experience with them. This can be a slippery slope as at least one of those providers was a known hard drug user masquerading as a respectable agency owner here and you may have put other members here in harms way as you continued to ignore others who pointed out the danger and fawned over her like she was the greatest thing that ever happened. I for one was against providers posting here because when women are in men's pockets here the lines are easily blurred.

[QUOTE=StressedOut;2065165]Hey Yellow..now we have a good rapport here on USA. Some good leads, info and good pm's. Now I don't give a care if you want to get your shots in here at Sperm. I've stayed here on the sideline enjoying the show. But I'm going to respectfully ask that you keep your shots to those that are involved and giving them. I certainly don't remember Deb getting involved or giving you any shots here during this 'war'. So don't bring her into the conversation especially with the comments you made. Again I am asking respectfully here and I expect the in kind return.
And before you ask yes Deb is capable of answering for herself however I would rather not put her in the position to have to do so. (other positions yes lol) Thanks SO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2065491]SO, My shots were taken at Sperm Guzzler. As my esteemed fellow members have already stated any member is open game in this thread including myself. I think you have forgotten the rules of this forum and thread because what you are doing is telling me how to post, what I can say or not say and who I can say it about.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StressedOut;2065565]I haven't forgotten the rules of the forum. I didn't tell you how to post nor did I tell you what to say..I simply asked (politely) or stuck up for anyone (monger or provider) who gets an underhanded shot needlessly and w / out provocation. And if you check my posts you will see this has been done consistently over the past. I know the shots were taken at Sperm (how can we forget since it has been needlessly going on for at least a week) and we are ALL open game in this forum. But if I'm having a pissing contest with xxxx about an issue I have with him and I compare him to you and call you a cock sucking little dick of a man and you aren't involved in the pissing contest to begin with then you are going to have a problem with me. Right? That's all I ask of you and others. Now if our friend A2 finds this acceptable then I will be happy to oblige and take needless shots with every post I make in THIS forum. And acc to your logic this will be ok since you can't tell me what to say, who to say it to or under what circumstances to say it. And sadly I guess I'm off your good list.....too bad since we have shared some good info in the past.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2065535]And I do have a big ass, always have even when I was thinner LOL. And as far as eating corn, I am a vegetarian so it is possible. But to eat it? Not into brown showers, I don't partake in that fetish LOL.[/QUOTE]Threads like this are a hard hat area. Anybody coming in, myself included, better check their safety equipment before coming in the door.

SO, while your chivalry is well placed, methinks Deb is no damsel in distress. I'm guessing she can break balls with the best of us.

There is no ruling that all posts must be antagonistic, however if somebody wants to hurl poo everytime the walk through the door they can. They will become known as an incessant hurler of poo though.

A2.

Couldn't find it. For one, Stressed Out I doubt he's trying to suck up to women, I think that he is respectful towards women in general and although we all know what the board is geared towards he likes women and men to be treated in a respectful manner. Only thing is that this is the masshole board LOL. As far as me being in any man's pockets I'm the least so. Damn I care so little about money now, that I don't really care to promote myself. Only thing is that I'd stress out if I didn't have a popular advertising site to advertise on. Otherwise I'm not desperate for money, could care less about the money, because it doesn't have to be a priority for me anymore. When I first started escorting it was a different story back then. I'm not one of those escorts who blows their money on stupid shit then begs the guys to give them business because they can't pay their phone bills LOL. Not sure what you meant by being in a man's pocket though. LOL. Maybe pocket doesn't have anything to do with money. I like posting, because for one thing I can vent here about customers bad behaviors and get feedback from you guys and 2, I find so many interesting articles and resources for the guys here. I've been pming guys who are seeking information on various escorts, even seniors. I've been able to find out information various ways. I just thought I'd like to help out. I enjoy the hobbyists most likely more than the escorts (bad escort experiences on my end too).

[QUOTE=Admin2;2065628]Threads like this are a hard hat area. Anybody coming in, myself included, better check their safety equipment before coming in the door.

SO, while your chivalry is well placed, methinks Deb is no damsel in distress. I'm guessing she can break balls with the best of us.

There is no ruling that all posts must be antagonistic, however if somebody wants to hurl poo everytime the walk through the door they can. They will become known as an incessant hurler of poo though.

A2.[/QUOTE]I thank-you for your guidance sir! It is well placed and informative. And yes I've got my hard hat on. I'm a big boy and can take anything as long as it is factual and deserved. And yes Deb is no damsel in distress..far from it. She is no shrinking violet. And she is absolutely good at / with balls in any situation including breaking them.

Your advice about antagonism is will be well heeded. Although it is better to be known as a hurler of poo than an eater of same.

SO.

[QUOTE=Yardape08;2065606]It seems clear that YF is pointing out the ceaseless Deb rumpswabbing obsession of Spermsac and in the heat of the moment used her ass as a metaphor. I suspect that your preference would be to have this become the Kumbaya thread however as has been pointed out everything is fair game here including Deb's ass. I know you have met Deb personally and formed a bond however in the past you have also been known to suck up to more than a few providers who were members here however they were providers you had never met and you went on and on about how great they were even though you had no personal experience with them. This can be a slippery slope as at least one of those providers was a known hard drug user masquerading as a respectable agency owner here and you may have put other members here in harms way as you continued to ignore others who pointed out the danger and fawned over her like she was the greatest thing that ever happened. I for one was against providers posting here because when women are in men's pockets here the lines are easily blurred.[/QUOTE]Now here is a good and fair post. I have no issue with the rebuttal. And no I have no preference of this becoming the Kumbaya thread. And as has been pointed out everything is fair game in context but my opinion has been given on that.

Have I been known to suck (up) to a few providers in the past. Sure I have. I challenge you to go through all your posts and tell me that you haven't sucked up to any or passed on good words about them. I never have said I saw someone when I didn't. And you, I or any other poster here is guilty of reporting on providers that they haven't personally seen. Word of mouth is exactly that.....

As far as your accusation about putting others in danger. I think that is a little far fetched. Two of the most senior members and well respected gents were involved in that agency in one way or another. And yes I never saw the 'owner' of the agency and it was well reported by me. I reported on reviews and word of mouth about her and several of the girls she had in her agency. I actually met one of her girls for a session and other than young, inexperienced and naïve she wasn't a user at least IMHO. Did any of her girls (or her) use drugs...possibly / maybe / who knows. Did we read of any monger that was in danger from seeing her or one of the girls. Maybe I missed something during my hiatis but I don't remember hearing of anyone being beat up, landing in jail or getting anything from seeing her. But it would be naïve to think that most of the streetwalkers and strip club girls (esp the old Pink Palace girls) that we talk about aren't users. And I'd surely bet that many of the CL and BP ladies we read about and see aren't doing it for the pleasure of fucking horny guys like us but need the money to support some sore of habit. And truth be told whether we like it or not aren't we all supporting 'users' when we go to one of the spas that the owner collects all of the entrance fee and the girl works just for the tips. A waitress isn't even treated that 'badly'.

Now once again bravo for the post. It was well received and hopefully we will remain compadres here. And my apologies if I have brought up any 'delicate' issues. SO.

I actually tried to in and edit my post to add this but when I went in to edit the heading was there but the message was blank.

I just wanted to add that when some of the accusations of 'use' came to light with at least one of the 'agency' ladies you referred to (Brockton forum I believe) I was one of the ones who went toe to toe with the 'owner' about the issue. I had no qualms about letting her know that there was no place for having ladies in her employ who were dangerous and using. Whether she knew beforehand or not...the ladies in question were not around after those accusations surfaced. Now back to the stooges of Massholes.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2065636]Couldn't find it. For one, Stressed Out I doubt he's trying to suck up to women, I think that he is respectful towards women in general and although we all know what the board is geared towards he likes women and men to be treated in a respectful manner. Only thing is that this is the masshole board LOL. As far as me being in any man's pockets I'm the least so. Damn I care so little about money now, that I don't really care to promote myself. Only thing is that I'd stress out if I didn't have a popular advertising site to advertise on. Otherwise I'm not desperate for money, could care less about the money, because it doesn't have to be a priority for me anymore. When I first started escorting it was a different story back then. I'm not one of those escorts who blows their money on stupid shit then begs the guys to give them business because they can't pay their phone bills LOL. Not sure what you meant by being in a man's pocket though. LOL. Maybe pocket doesn't have anything to do with money. I like posting, because for one thing I can vent here about customers bad behaviors and get feedback from you guys and 2, I find so many interesting articles and resources for the guys here. I've been pming guys who are seeking information on various escorts, even seniors. I've been able to find out information various ways. I just thought I'd like to help out. I enjoy the hobbyists most likely more than the escorts (bad escort experiences on my end too).[/QUOTE]Ahh yes chivalry and respect...long lost and yes forgotten....after all this is the masshole board! You can't blame a gent for trying...Onward and forward we must go. Let's resume the back and forth on the number of postings and the quality of same. But I did try and bring something different here. Lesson learned and remembered and not repeated. Over and yes...out! SO.

I don't think I'm going to use the "off the boat" phrase for a few years. Horrible disaster off Jeju / Cheju. If you see any Korean-American providers, please show sympathy.

[URL]http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/16/world/asia/south-korea-sinking-ship-students/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2065636]Couldn't find it. For one, Stressed Out I doubt he's trying to suck up to women, I think that he is respectful towards women in general and although we all know what the board is geared towards he likes women and men to be treated in a respectful manner. Only thing is that this is the masshole board LOL. As far as me being in any man's pockets I'm the least so. Damn I care so little about money now, that I don't really care to promote myself. Only thing is that I'd stress out if I didn't have a popular advertising site to advertise on. Otherwise I'm not desperate for money, could care less about the money, because it doesn't have to be a priority for me anymore. When I first started escorting it was a different story back then. I'm not one of those escorts who blows their money on stupid shit then begs the guys to give them business because they can't pay their phone bills LOL. Not sure what you meant by being in a man's pocket though. LOL. Maybe pocket doesn't have anything to do with money. I like posting, because for one thing I can vent here about customers bad behaviors and get feedback from you guys and 2, I find so many interesting articles and resources for the guys here. I've been pming guys who are seeking information on various escorts, even seniors. I've been able to find out information various ways. I just thought I'd like to help out. I enjoy the hobbyists most likely more than the escorts (bad escort experiences on my end too).[/QUOTE]The reference to "in men's pockets" is just a phrase Deb. What I meant is that for men it becomes difficult to be objective once they become attached to a provider. This is the context I was referring to. It is not a reflection of your intentions or money habits. It's refreshing to see you are thick skinned enough to hang out here. When I say I was against women posting here it was certainly nothing personal towards you.