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In my experience, great looking long time users like her have a network of friends (girls) and they share stories about whos who, etc. [/QUOTE]They very much do. I remember a year and a half ago or longer Morph being showed a list of guys from SA with notes about them AND their usernames here. It still goes on and I firmly believe there is someone on SA "recruiting" (for the lack of a better term) girls that have been up for discussion.
[QUOTE=BoilerWelder;4694916]They very much do. I remember a year and a half ago or longer Morph being showed a list of guys from SA with notes about them AND their usernames here. It still goes on and I firmly believe there is someone on SA "recruiting" (for the lack of a better term) girls that have been up for discussion.[/QUOTE]We all need to start doing searches on our burner numbers and site names. These ladies have to have a site that review men. It's virtually impossible this wouldn't exist.
[QUOTE=QueNine;4695078]We all need to start doing searches on our burner numbers and site names. These ladies have to have a site that review men. It's virtually impossible this wouldn't exist.[/QUOTE]But some dudes on here can't keep their mouth shut and women aren't any better. I just think someone would have found out by now.
Just thru simple conversation many will reveal tidbits of info if you are subtle about it. The first time I am seeing a new girl she shows up at my house for a few drinks or whatever before the main event, I always like to ask them about the site, their experiences good and bad, if they have GF's on there etc in casual conversation. It can reveal a lot about the girl I am about to have sex with. Of course a lot of it is BS but most share their bad experiences and tell me about the guys and what happened. One that I recently posted on within the past few weeks brought up this site. It went something like this tho not verbatim. She told me her friend and also her "weed guy" showed her this site and said he is on SA and also a member on here. She went on to tell me about guys posting and reviewing about 10 girls in a post they slept with and how gross it was. I just played stupid like I never heard of any site like that. This is an open public forum and any profile name that is posted here and that is Googled will link here. I am glad we have this site (and free BTW). I am sure they share information on us and really IDGAF because it's a 2 way street. There is a lot of fu*ked up guys in this hobby that ripoff, scam and sometimes even hurt these girls. When we part ways I always leave these girls better off (financially) than before they met me. I was recently seeing an SA girl that just transferred out of state to another college. My loss but to my surprise I got an unsolicited text from her GF that is not on any site. She said my SA girl gave my number to her and she was interested in the same arrangement we had. I have been seeing her about 3 weeks now. So let them review me or talk about me. I really don't care.
[QUOTE=JimmyJohn1987;4695435]But some dudes on here can't keep their mouth shut and women aren't any better. I just think someone would have found out by now.[/QUOTE]I searched my # and name nothing came up also searched johns st Louis which is a gay bar did not need that but nothing else.
Have been in contacted with these two. Not sure which one I should see 1st. Have found reports on here about butterflyana but they over a year old. Anybody have any new info on her. Could not find anything on Liz. If any could give me info please PM me. Thanks for your help.
[QUOTE=Whaler;4695716]Have been in contacted with these two. Not sure which one I should see 1st. Have found reports on here about butterflyana but they over a year old. Anybody have any new info on her. Could not find anything on Liz. If any could give me info please PM me. Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]Saw Ana on Thursday, a few pounds over when I saw her 2 years ago but still in decent shape. Def a little weird / crazy (talked about family stuff the entire time) but was quick to lose her clothes once we got back to my place. I didn't notice until after but she was possibly very tipsy or drunk. Only does CBJ but open to whatever else without covers (I don't partake of bb when they are that open about it). Not bad but not active. Will mostly just let you do whatever but doesn't seem into it at all if that matters to you. 6/10 would pick her up if in dire needs. She did say she was leaving Monday for Minnesota.
[QUOTE=Whaler;4695716]Have been in contacted with these two. Not sure which one I should see 1st. Have found reports on here about butterflyana but they over a year old. Anybody have any new info on her. Could not find anything on Liz. If any could give me info please PM me. Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]Liz is fun but a bit bigger gal than her photos show.
Any intel on her?
Or this one? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be642075-e698-41fa-866b-206a7e06fa40[/URL].
[QUOTE=DDSlim;4697378]Or this one? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be642075-e698-41fa-866b-206a7e06fa40[/URL].[/QUOTE]She is posted here too.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/41992014/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Whaler;4695716]Have been in contacted with these two. Not sure which one I should see 1st. Have found reports on here about butterflyana but they over a year old. Anybody have any new info on her. Could not find anything on Liz. If any could give me info please PM me. Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]I saw her ButterflyAna recently. I had actually seen her over a year ago as well. Quite a difference in personality in my opinion. She is dealing with some major personal things presently, and I think she is self medicating. To the point I think it's harmful to her and her decision making. She's a sweet girl but I don't think she can handle what's going on in her life right now. I actually felt a little bad during our time together. She seemed drunk and was slurring her words. As stated below, she really doesn't get too involved in the actual "fun times".
I myself just saw her after a yr or 2 absence and sadly, she has gone downhill. When she first started she was sweet with a touch of innocence. I believe she did this as she was in between jobs because she disappeared for a long time. I assume she worked. She stated she was on FMLA and doing this for the money again. I know she was "away" for 6 weeks dealing with an issue, but she has more than one. I most likely will not see her again, which is a shame because she was such a sweetie.
Dood.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy43;4698142]I saw her ButterflyAna recently. I had actually seen her over a year ago as well. Quite a difference in personality in my opinion. She is dealing with some major personal things presently, and I think she is self medicating. To the point I think it's harmful to her and her decision making. She's a sweet girl but I don't think she can handle what's going on in her life right now. I actually felt a little bad during our time together. She seemed drunk and was slurring her words. As stated below, she really doesn't get too involved in the actual "fun times".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HockeyDood;4698536]I myself just saw her after a yr or 2 absence and sadly, she has gone downhill. When she first started she was sweet with a touch of innocence. I believe she did this as she was in between jobs because she disappeared for a long time. I assume she worked. She stated she was on FMLA and doing this for the money again. I know she was "away" for 6 weeks dealing with an issue, but she has more than one. I most likely will not see her again, which is a shame because she was such a sweetie.
Dood.[/QUOTE]Is she on SA, or only WYP?
Still working thru my discounted month membership. Have collected over 80 numbers so far that some might pan out. Damn so much work now. Have only fu*ked 5 new ones so far since this round tho but several lined up.
Lilhippiegirl01 Needs 45 prepay for sitter. Told her find a sitter you don't pay in advance, plenty out there.
Laurynluvs To busy to meet but has time to sell pic's and vid's.
Stl_Kyutie Never contacted her but she messaged me. Living in a Bridgeton hotel with dog. Will probably take anything. Hard pass.
HurricaneBlueEyes To busy with school to meet but has time to sell pictures.
TheGirlNEXTDoorMilo Too far away probably DTF. If you share / post SB intel here will pass along her number.
Lizzylover2424 Selling pics and vids.
MistyPink Selling premium Snapchat.
Bhaddie0224 Looking to talk and text only and be paid for it.
Adorableloveflow No data left on phone, send money.
Kourtj17890 Wants 100 to take her out, buy her dinner and watch her eat. Nothing physical.
Sweetnej Nothing physical.
I hate what this site has become but I hate the other site's worse. It's still the best game in town to find sober, drug free, non pimped, young, clean fresh pussy.
[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4698832]Still working thru my discounted month membership. Have collected over 80 numbers so far that some might pan out. Damn so much work now. Have only fu*ked 5 new ones so far since this round tho but several lined up.
Lilhippiegirl01 Needs 45 prepay for sitter. Told her find a sitter you don't pay in advance, plenty out there.
Laurynluvs To busy to meet but has time to sell pic's and vid's.
Stl_Kyutie Never contacted her but she messaged me. Living in a Bridgeton hotel with dog. Will probably take anything. Hard pass.
HurricaneBlueEyes To busy with school to meet but has time to sell pictures.
TheGirlNEXTDoorMilo Too far away probably DTF. If you share / post SB intel here will pass along her number.
Lizzylover2424 Selling pics and vids.
MistyPink Selling premium Snapchat.
Bhaddie0224 Looking to talk and text only and be paid for it.
Adorableloveflow No data left on phone, send money.
Kourtj17890 Wants 100 to take her out, buy her dinner and watch her eat. Nothing physical.
Sweetnej Nothing physical.
I hate what this site has become but I hate the other site's worse. It's still the best game in town to find sober, drug free, non pimped, young, clean fresh pussy.[/QUOTE]Lilhippiegirl01 quoted 65 for daycare / babysitter LOL and wanted that ON TOP of an allowance HAHAHAHA.
[QUOTE=QueNine;4698801]Is she on SA, or only WYP?[/QUOTE]She had an SA for like a week a year or two ago but I don't think it's active anymore.
Kikukitten Dynamite looking little body, wants 4-500 ppm.
Lilhippiegirl01 Wants 65 for sitter.
Emoss071 dtf I haven't taken the plunge yet. She's a little too eager and in IL. She's on wyp as brookie.
Serenity4 first words she types "hi are you going to spend lots of money on me".
Halo819 wasn't up for a married guy.
Emmy080201 young and dumb, also in quincy too far for anything.
Agree she is very eager to meet. She lives in Glen Carbon, IL. Wanted $200 and said it would be well worth my time. Something seems off with this one. Interested if anyone meets her.
Been chatting with her for a while. Looks like she's gtg. Anyone know anything about her? Says she's from Florida and doesn't know the area. Lives around Florissant. Not sure on price.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy43;4699808]Been chatting with her for a while. Looks like she's gtg. Anyone know anything about her? Says she's from Florida and doesn't know the area. Lives around Florissant. Not sure on price.[/QUOTE]Told me she was living in an extended stay off 270 and Dunn, wrecked her truck so she wasn't mobile, blah blah. Has text me from 3 different numbers after I noped out. She's desperate. Not at all what I'm looking for. I got a strong pro vibe.
Lilhippiegirl01 I have been chatting with for a couple days also. Seems almost too cool. I'm wondering if the pics are even real?
[QUOTE=BoilerWelder;4699929]Lilhippiegirl01 I have been chatting with for a couple days also. Seems almost too cool. I'm wondering if the pics are even real?[/QUOTE]This girl is a scam artist tried to get me to pay for sitter so she could meet has a ton of stories about dead husband yet on IG she posted with him two days ago I wouldn't send money she agreed to meet claims she lives in mansion house so it wasn't too far from me I indulged when I got there she needed the money via cash app before she would give me her apt number pass cash only and she ghosted me total scam would not be surprised if it was a man.
[QUOTE=BoilerWelder;4699929]Lilhippiegirl01 I have been chatting with for a couple days also. Seems almost too cool. I'm wondering if the pics are even real?[/QUOTE]I told her money was tight and I'd get back to her next week. She said what about $30? I'm assuming for baby sitting but I'm starting to think she may be drug dependent. Just a hunch. Anyways, the pics do look to good to be true. Anybody first!
By the way, she said she’s staying at the Mansion House apartments. Look pretty nice.....?
[QUOTE=BoilerWelder;4699900]Told me she was living in an extended stay off 270 and Dunn, wrecked her truck so she wasn't mobile, blah blah. Has text me from 3 different numbers after I noped out. She's desperate. Not at all what I'm looking for. I got a strong pro vibe.[/QUOTE]Yeah, something is telling me to stay away as well.
Lilhippiegirl01 Said she lives at Mansion House but can't afford 30-50 for a sitter. Don't worry some fool will send her money but not me.
Emoss071 Has probably contacted all of us. Said she will drive to my house but not the first time. I would need to make the 1 1/2 hour round trip drive to her place first time. My time is to valuable for unknown, no thanks.
Curlsanddimples Has probably contacted all of us. No Co extended stay hotel and pics look like off Listcrawler, need I say more?
Selenaj548 Will only give out Kik. Selling pics.
Megan82 Claims she gets to the STL area. Then sends a text to the wrong guy says she is sitting in a cab at the bank waiting for him to Paypal her the money. Another fool prepaying but not me.
KayDL is good to go. Claimed she wanted to meet up first but after a bit of texting came straight for business. Service was good, but after 4 or 5 times it got kind of mechanical. On to the next.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy43;4700054]Yeah, something is telling me to stay away as well.[/QUOTE]She has been after me as well, she told me she was a stripper who hurt her back and could no longer dance just got here from Florida too, offered BB, no thanks.
Reported on her previously. Would not budge below 400 for me. If everyone could hold the line and say no she would do a price drop. Regrettably that is not going to happen and she is probably getting it (but not from me). I will see 2 girls this week that I would have spent on her. I refuse to prop up and support overinflated prices in STL.
[QUOTE=Maddog72;4699992]This girl is a scam artist tried to get me to pay for sitter so she could meet has a ton of stories about dead husband yet on IG she posted with him two days ago I wouldn't send money she agreed to meet claims she lives in mansion house so it wasn't too far from me I indulged when I got there she needed the money via cash app before she would give me her apt number pass cash only and she ghosted me total scam would not be surprised if it was a man.[/QUOTE]I got time today after I posted to do some digging.
[QUOTE=BoilerWelder;4700387]I got time today after I posted to do some digging.[/QUOTE]What's her IG? I did a reverse image search but didn't get any results.
[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4700341]Reported on her previously. Would not budge below 400 for me. If everyone could hold the line and say no she would do a price drop. Regrettably that is not going to happen and she is probably getting it (but not from me). I will see 2 girls this week that I would have spent on her. I refuse to prop up and support overinflated prices in STL.[/QUOTE]I look at it this way:
They know the value of what (they're receiving. We don't know until they actually leave if what we get is worth a fu8 k. I'll start out low (er) and tell them if we meet again I'll bump it. Gives us both an incentive to make it good.
And, if they really want 4-5 that's maybe once a month or longer for me (especially if I need to get a room). So, 500 once a month or every 5-6 weeks, 300 2-3 times a month, or 200-250 4 or more times. Do the math.
[QUOTE=BoilerWelder;4700387]I got time today after I posted to do some digging.[/QUOTE]Told me she moved here from Ft Wayne.
[QUOTE=Hadley6;4701311]Told me she moved here from Ft Wayne.[/QUOTE]I told her I'd be around her neck of the woods yesterday evening and I'd be happy to drop off $50 to her in the lobby. Yep, she ghosted me. Only wanted PayPal or cash app.
Doalittlegood: wants 4-5. I got her # to go over pricing and she flaked and said we should have just done this on the site and saved her some time. I told her that SA isn't really the place to be discussing $. Looked back at the site and I was blocked by her LOL.
[QUOTE=Hadley6;4701715]Doalittlegood: wants 4-5. I got her # to go over pricing and she flaked and said we should have just done this on the site and saved her some time. I told her that SA isn't really the place to be discussing $. Looked back at the site and I was blocked by her LOL.[/QUOTE]Yep, she is a wack job and block happy.
I guess we can agree to disagree on that math of yours. Once these girls get paid 400-500 (plus your hotel costs or whatever else is involved for you) the bar is usually set / raised for them (I know my worth). I have never found one that offers volume discounts of that large amount in your scenario. Sure most prefer steady, ongoing and reliable. But they (most LOL) can do math and know what economies of scale is as well. I have also found (especially when you don't really know each other in the beginning), that making promises of possibly a larger allowance for the same service in the future leaves them skeptical of that promise of words (really who can blame them). When you pay her 500 in her mind she is now worth it and deserves that. I will pay you 500 once a month to have sex with you or let me fu*k you 3 times a month for 600-800 I am pretty sure which option she will chose. Usually they will seek out a few guys willing to pay 500, unless you are the Unicorn on SA. I put myself in their position with my math (maybe I am wrong tho). Would they rather fu*k 4 times a month for 500 a pop, or have to do this 7-10 times a month for the same amount. 1 company pays you 500 an evening for your services, the other company pays you 200-300 for the same service you provide. Reverse the roles / flip the script, if I was them I would be getting the highest dollar per visit to limit the times I have to spread my legs and hold my nose to be with guy's like us (umm sorry me).
Gentleman, here is your new SA. I don't want it, neither do you but here ya go.
"At the moment I would like to start off with a friendship before I dive into anything else. I am mainly looking for something financially beneficial due to recent troubles. I have a few bills that need to be paid and one is due next week. Its the main reason I decided to get on this site. "
"My car payment. I spoiled myself when I had my job because I knew I could afford it but now that Iv lost it it's difficult".
"Yes I know!! I always wondered why he avoided talking about engagement now I know. It is 800".
"I have decided this is not for me".
"I rather take out a loan".
"Wow I feel like shit for your bad experience. Can I ask what arrangement your seeking? We never discussed".
"something short term. This was suppose to be something where I can just get fast cash in all honesty".
"just dinner with me is 300".
"I'm sorry. Not experienced at all this. I pay you 300 to buy you diner and watch you eat?
"Can I ask where did you come up with this arrangement"?
"did it in Chicago. We went to dinner had drinks and socialized. Like you I am very new to this. I asked some friends what they charge and I went from there".
"All good. Thanks for your honesty. Why didn't you keep seeing the guy? Sounds like a sweet deal. LOL".
"hes in Chicago".
Gentleman please stop paying these girls money. Please! I am beside myself as I read this shit.
[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4701879]I guess we can agree to disagree on that math of yours. Once these girls get paid 400-500 (plus your hotel costs or whatever else is involved for you) the bar is usually set / raised for them (I know my worth). I have never found one that offers volume discounts of that large amount in your scenario. Sure most prefer steady, ongoing and reliable. But they (most LOL) can do math and know what economies of scale is as well. I have also found (especially when you don't really know each other in the beginning), that making promises of possibly a larger allowance for the same service in the future leaves them skeptical of that promise of words (really who can blame them). When you pay her 500 in her mind she is now worth it and deserves that. I will pay you 500 once a month to have sex with you or let me fu*k you 3 times a month for 600-800 I am pretty sure which option she will chose. Usually they will seek out a few guys willing to pay 500, unless you are the Unicorn on SA. I put myself in their position with my math (maybe I am wrong tho). Would they rather fu*k 4 times a month for 500 a pop, or have to do this 7-10 times a month for the same amount. 1 company pays you 500 an evening for your services, the other company pays you 200-300 for the same service you provide. Reverse the roles / flip the script, if I was them I would be getting the highest dollar per visit to limit the times I have to spread my legs and hold my nose to be with guy's like us (umm sorry me).[/QUOTE]Almost Every SB on that site who says 500 ppm they all come down to 200-250 range if you have patience.
[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4701879]I guess we can agree to disagree on that math of yours. Once these girls get paid 400-500 (plus your hotel costs or whatever else is involved for you) the bar is usually set / raised for them (I know my worth). I have never found one that offers volume discounts of that large amount in your scenario. Sure most prefer steady, ongoing and reliable. But they (most LOL) can do math and know what economies of scale is as well. I have also found (especially when you don't really know each other in the beginning), that making promises of possibly a larger allowance for the same service in the future leaves them skeptical of that promise of words (really who can blame them). When you pay her 500 in her mind she is now worth it and deserves that. I will pay you 500 once a month to have sex with you or let me fu*k you 3 times a month for 600-800 I am pretty sure which option she will chose. Usually they will seek out a few guys willing to pay 500, unless you are the Unicorn on SA. I put myself in their position with my math (maybe I am wrong tho). Would they rather fu*k 4 times a month for 500 a pop, or have to do this 7-10 times a month for the same amount. 1 company pays you 500 an evening for your services, the other company pays you 200-300 for the same service you provide. Reverse the roles / flip the script, if I was them I would be getting the highest dollar per visit to limit the times I have to spread my legs and hold my nose to be with guy's like us (umm sorry me).[/QUOTE]Sometimes I think you can all infer what I can't articulate LOL.
I never pay 4-5. I was just using it as an example that if money is their prime goal (and is), then they'll make more if they are reasonable. Not saying it's real life or that any of them (not all) can figure that out.