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[QUOTE=DavidTheSancho;3221725]I miss living in Socal, so much more to choose from compared to where I am now in the Bay Area. Girls on SA have ridiculous expectations here, yet, I have had two very memorable experiences. Met a girl who had just moved from LA and was looking for someone to cover her living expenses. Our second date happened to be on her birthday and she gave me the best BJ I have ever had, spent the night and repeated in the morning before I left to work. No allowance at all, lost all contact with her a few days later though. From sleuthing her social media I guess she shacked up with some big shot in the film industry she found on SA. She was working in television so a dream come true for her.

Also met another girl who I swear was going to murder me the first time we met but we have been friends with benefits for a couple months now. No allowance except a couple gifts here and there. I shouldn't but I do get jealous as I see her profile is still up but she claims she doesn't talk to anyone and just has it for the laughs. Highly doubt it though.

Anyways, I was curious if you guys only come here to talk the bowl or if there are any other resources out there. I checked out reddit a couple times but the guys there seem like real pushovers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3222042]I had a long period in my 30's and 20's in the Bay, and my evaluation of the women there is that they are 49 ers. You know what that is, right? They're 4's, but think they're 9's. The bowl here in Orange County is great, and I think it is likely better in LA.[/QUOTE]As a Bay Area resident as well, I can agree the GPS is high due to (in my opinion) the amount of tech money in the area. I also agree there aren't as many women (especially hot) in the area compared to say Atlanta, LA or NYC. I suspect the M: F ratio is skewed more to men compared to elsewhere, so it's just a tougher market. With that said, patience is key. Your own personality and game are a huge part of it with regard to expenses. Develop a technique that isn't exhausting or time consuming and stick to it. Also, don't allow yourself to get jealous. Assume they are seeing others and that you're just along for the ride for as long as it lasts.

As far as reddit goes, I agree. I've found the posts here and in the [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not[/URL] thread have been more representative of the reality.

I've had an awful few days, not helped by it being Friday the 13th. I had two Latina POTs lined up for Wednesday near work, one for lunch and one for happy hour. #1 is 21 YO, absolutely beautiful, sent all kindsa lingerie photos, found her FB (she's in a relationship). #2 24 YO also pretty and stacked, in a relationship 6 years, complained about the BF / their sex, we've already extensively discussed FC activities, I'm looking forward to it. #1 goes crickets the day of, deactivates her profile on SA. #2 just doesn't reply to messages, 2 days later says 'had an out of town emergency'. I was supposed to be in the FC w / my regular SB Thursday am, but she wanted to party w / a GF Wednesday night and begged off. The afternoon was supposed to be a MnG w / 40's interior decorator, but she went silent as I tried to schedule. Today, I had coffee booked w / a 24 YO beautiful butchy asian / latin lesbian who says she's never had a dick but wants to try. I texted her before leaving my house, all's well, I get there and she's crickets. I messaged and then had an extensive phone conversation (yes, real voices) w / a 22 YO coed who had a 2 mo arrangement that melted down when his wife caught him. Very auspicious, we set the MnG today, she's a 5'7' spinner, found her FB / videos. I text the place to her this morning and get a text back about a deposit on an apartment. Never anything else. Huh? After I am back home w / the SO she texts she had to move and was sorry to miss our meeting, but still wants to try. Sigh. No pussy this week at all.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3230485]I've had an awful few days, not helped by it being Friday the 13th. I had two Latina POTs lined up for Wednesday near work, one for lunch and one for happy hour. #1 is 21 YO, absolutely beautiful, sent all kindsa lingerie photos, found her FB (she's in a relationship). #2 24 YO also pretty and stacked, in a relationship 6 years, complained about the BF / their sex, we've already extensively discussed FC activities, I'm looking forward to it. #1 goes crickets the day of, deactivates her profile on SA. #2 just doesn't reply to messages, 2 days later says 'had an out of town emergency'. I was supposed to be in the FC w / my regular SB Thursday am, but she wanted to party w / a GF Wednesday night and begged off. The afternoon was supposed to be a MnG w / 40's interior decorator, but she went silent as I tried to schedule. Today, I had coffee booked w / a 24 YO beautiful butchy asian / latin lesbian who says she's never had a dick but wants to try. I texted her before leaving my house, all's well, I get there and she's crickets. I messaged and then had an extensive phone conversation (yes, real voices) w / a 22 YO coed who had a 2 mo arrangement that melted down when his wife caught him. Very auspicious, we set the MnG today, she's a 5'7' spinner, found her FB / videos. I text the place to her this morning and get a text back about a deposit on an apartment. Never anything else. Huh? After I am back home w / the SO she texts she had to move and was sorry to miss our meeting, but still wants to try. Sigh. No pussy this week at all.[/QUOTE]Thats funny. But not really. When you want it and can't get it. It is OMG frustrating. I am broke and have had a few nibbles. But no real angst about slow moving, not responding, and flaking pots. I am only focusing on my target group, so when I do score at least it will be or should be rewarding. I think I have been on SA for two full weeks now. I skipped a hottie that went to the wind. Or I should say to greener pastures. And skipped on a hot UTR.

Can you or anyone else describe in detail how you find out someone's facebook or any other information?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3230485]I've had an awful few days, not helped by it being Friday the 13th. I had two Latina POTs lined up for Wednesday near work, one for lunch and one for happy hour. #1 is 21 YO, absolutely beautiful, sent all kindsa lingerie photos, found her FB (she's in a relationship).. I messaged and then had an extensive phone conversation (yes, real voices) w / a 22 YO coed who had a 2 mo arrangement that melted down when his wife caught him. Very auspicious, we set the MnG today, she's a 5'7' spinner, found her FB / videos. I text the place to her this morning and get a text back about a deposit on an apartment. Never anything else. Huh? After I am back home w / the SO she texts she had to move and was sorry to miss our meeting, but still wants to try. Sigh. No pussy this week at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3226296]I am often (or not so often) asked, what are the 5 steps to success. These steps should be relayed in 5 seperate messages.

Step 1 - Send her a message telling her about yourself and make her ponder her motives for being on the site.

Step 2 - Find out if she is just looking for an ATM or is she looking for a real connection.

Step 3 - Let her know that you are not an ATM and that you pay "this much" per date.

Setp 4 - Tell her to email you so that you can explain to her what your expectations are on a first date.

Step 5 - Now via email (or txt) Let her know its pay to play but she could opt for a "no sex, no money" date, except for normal dating expenses to get to know you better first.[/QUOTE]Also. Anytime you ask a question and the pot does not respond to it specifically (like by just jumping ahead and giving you her number, or saying lets have dinner, or lets meet tonite). Just acknowledge her response and then take her right back to the script.

It will be tempting to jump ahead, BUT experience has taught me to stay away from mind reading and just follow the script as it is laid out. Pre-screening and pre-qualifying in the aforementioned manner will help avoid bad M&G's and avoid unrealistic expectations and then wasting every ones time.

Good Luck and Happy Hunting.

Saw one of my x's last night. No sugar.

I would also like to know how to track down Facebook profiles. Seeing my 22 singer today. Was supposed to see my regular this morning but she's sick. Had a MnG setup for last night that has been in the works for weeks. She's close bu so was just supposed to come over and hang out. , maybe kiss a bit. When I repeated that no sugar suddenly she had to go to victorville! Ha! She's really cute with a nice rack and she has already texted me today, so perhaps she will come around. Had a very hot AF quote me 5 $ a meet and I gave my line, lo and behold she's fine with it.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;3232619]I would also like to know how to track down Facebook profiles. Seeing my 22 singer today. Was supposed to see my regular this morning but she's sick. Had a MnG setup for last night that has been in the works for weeks. She's close bu so was just supposed to come over and hang out. , maybe kiss a bit. When I repeated that no sugar suddenly she had to go to victorville! Ha! She's really cute with a nice rack and she has already texted me today, so perhaps she will come around. Had a very hot AF quote me 5 $ a meet and I gave my line, lo and behold she's fine with it.[/QUOTE]Hop over to the Richmond Va SB thread. I've posted over there about cyber intel. You just need your own FB page that is either your sugar identity or something else that can't be traced back to you. Supposedly, someone has tested w / several fake profiles if one can tell that another has looked at the page, and supposedly the answer is no, but I don't trust these social media companies. If you search someone's page (or their friends also) too much, I would expect FB to start suggesting them as friends or vice versa, and then the s* hits the fan.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;3232619]I would also like to know how to track down Facebook profiles. Seeing my 22 singer today. Was supposed to see my regular this morning but she's sick. Had a MnG setup for last night that has been in the works for weeks. She's close bu so was just supposed to come over and hang out. , maybe kiss a bit. When I repeated that no sugar suddenly she had to go to victorville! Ha! She's really cute with a nice rack and she has already texted me today, so perhaps she will come around. Had a very hot AF quote me 5 $ a meet and I gave my line, lo and behold she's fine with it.[/QUOTE]Lots of GPS out there. It's almost an inspiration to work overtime.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3232790]If you search someone's page (or their friends also) too much, I would expect FB to start suggesting them as friends or vice versa, and then the s* hits the fan.[/QUOTE]This is definitely true. Always use fake social media profiles for internet sleuthing with fresh email accounts and burner numbers.

So I finally did my M&G with the 20 year old (5.4 and 102 lbs) that I met on match.com. It was a lot of fun. Lots of kissing and cuddling. It could go somewhere. She actually told her mom about me already and said I would need to meet her if I wanted to date her. This girl is a virgin and is looking to lose that. She is here legally on a student visa, but I am sure a marriage would make that a lot easier. LOL. No chance of a pregnancy, but I didn't mention that to her. So the sugar was 0. As was to be expected.

Congrats HWG! Guess all the hard work is finally paying off with some zero sugar pussies! LOL.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3232919]So I finally did my M&G with the 20 year old (5.4 and 102 lbs) that I met on match.com. It was a lot of fun. Lots of kissing and cuddling. It could go somewhere. She actually told her mom about me already and said I would need to meet her if I wanted to date her. This girl is a virgin and is looking to lose that. She is here legally on a student visa, but I am sure a marriage would make that a lot easier. LOL. No chance of a pregnancy, but I didn't mention that to her. So the sugar was 0. As was to be expected.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lebruno;3233162]Congrats HWG! Guess all the hard work is finally paying off with some zero sugar pussies! LOL.[/QUOTE]Not totally. I am not really getting what I would normally get (bomb sex) if I was paying. But beggars can't be choosers.

Found an anything goes girl 2 miles from my house. A 20 year old latina college student. Admittedly overweight. But it's been a while since I had an hour long BJ. I believe she will be up to the challenge. She is a super submissive that likes being roughed up, told what to do, is a total pleaser and has basically no limits. Cute face makes it work. Her close proximity is a little scary. She could walk here. The college student part eases my fears though.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3234580]Found an anything goes girl 2 miles from my house. A 20 year old latina college student. Admittedly overweight. But it's been a while since I had an hour long BJ. I believe she will be up to the challenge. She is a super submissive that likes being roughed up, told what to do, is a total pleaser and has basically no limits. Cute face makes it work. Her close proximity is a little scary. She could walk here. The college student part eases my fears though.[/QUOTE]Another gold nugget from SA?

[QUOTE=Tipisil;3234795]Another gold nugget from SA?[/QUOTE]I am all SA. I am slowly reconnecting with a few girls from the past and talking to a few new ones. At $$ a date I would be in model heaven. At a $ I have to cut a couple of corners but they are still nice girls. I pray my fortunes reverse in a year or two so I can partake of the awesome bounty available out there. For now I will have to play on their sympathies and ask for freebies here and there. And also not even worry about frequency. But the sun is out this morning (finally) and I am going to have a blessed day.

Thanks for sharing the wisdom HWG! Can you let us know out of 10 girls, how many will get past question 2, they are looking for connection. Of those that want a connection, how many out of 10 will accept your $ per date offer?

I think we all know it takes effort, but it may be good to know the numbers so we don't get discouraged in the process.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3231463]Step 1 - Send her a message telling her about yourself and make her ponder her motives for being on the site.

Step 2 - Find out if she is just looking for an ATM or is she looking for a real connection.

Step 3 - Let her know that you are not an ATM and that you pay "this much" per date.
Good Luck and Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]

Some decent MnGs. I moved up in age to the 30's.

#1. 35 YO MILF, married but no sex at home, no bowl experience, but an affair. Near my work so minimal risk of SO discovery. Super hot spinner, red hair / blue eyes, classy dresser, jewelry, career, etc. Maybe this is just for the excitement. Foreign. I found her FB, all she said is true. Generous sugar promised. The only question at this stage is scheduling. I'll call her InlandRed.

#2. single Cali blonde, profile pic not her but I also found her FB from the cell #, so I knew she has a very pretty GND face, PeopleSmart says she is 40+, the profile / her lips? 34. In person, body maybe a little cushioned, but nice big knockers, hot legs in a dress slit up the thigh. Smart, professional job. Messaging for a week and an opening suddenly appeared in my schedule, so I texted. She couldn't go out today so invited me to her apartment complex party room. Hmm. Seemed a little sketchy but I run / drive fast so I went for it. Totally quiet spot, way better than any Sbux. Typical nice convo, she's had an arrangement. I ask some leading questions and it emerges she's submissive. Whadyaknow. Time flew and I needed to leave so I tested her, stood her up and told her to kiss me. Performed well, then blushed. Wise to stop there. No sugar talk. This is going to be fun. Her own place in a nice complex not too far from home (I know, might prefer distance, but at least I'll never be where I'm not supposed to be). I'll call her CoastBlond.

Reports after the FCs.

[QUOTE=SupDaddy;3234982]Thanks for sharing the wisdom HWG! Can you let us know out of 10 girls, how many will get past question 2, they are looking for connection. Of those that want a connection, how many out of 10 will accept your $ per date offer?

I think we all know it takes effort, but it may be good to know the numbers so we don't get discouraged in the process.[/QUOTE]Everyones numbers will vary. The more game and experience you have the easier it will get. Just get out there and have some fun.

Hot girl wanted me meet quick but wanted me to buy token+ with my bank card or PAYPAL?

Is she a scam? After I pay I will never see her.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3234950]I am all SA. I am slowly reconnecting with a few girls from the past and talking to a few new ones. At $$ a date I would be in model heaven. At a $ I have to cut a couple of corners but they are still nice girls. I pray my fortunes reverse in a year or two so I can partake of the awesome bounty available out there. For now I will have to play on their sympathies and ask for freebies here and there. And also not even worry about frequency. But the sun is out this morning (finally) and I am going to have a blessed day.[/QUOTE]

I just did a one hour M&G with he aforementioned 20 year old latina chubby sub girl today. She had been pre-trained by another guy and was really more of the masochist type. I rubbed her pussy as hard as I could otc until my arm was sore. The harder I rubbed the more she liked it. Not the greatest kisser but good enough. On our first real date I am sure her mouth will be occupied elsewhere. She is 5 minutes away and available anytime after school. The M&G was a free test run.

Talked to this one today. She is another girl from my past that says she would be very happy to reconnect. Awesome 20 year old body. Lives not too far away. I am ready for her now. LOL.

Joined SA got a couple things going but damn there are some hustlers on there, but I found a pornstar and working something out with her.

I'm young not a typical daddy type so alot trying to play me.

Any tips going forward?

I spent the night with one 0 sugar.

Did a couple M&Gen one of them legit asked for snow I noted the hell out LOL.

Got a hot 19 who is new and seems down wanting minimal sugar / pampering.

Thanks to the bros who share their info in this site.

I met a few girls potentially just ST hook ups.

Are there hourly notels along Freeway 5 that they would recommend?

Reading these stories I decided to put it in for 6 months. I'm not as experienced as many of you guys but I'm going to give try. I have a couple that want to meet prob out of my range but just go to get the hang of this.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3236575]Thanks to the bros who share their info in this site.

I met a few girls potentially just ST hook ups.

Are there hourly notels along Freeway 5 that they would recommend?[/QUOTE]Read the thread titled "hourly motels in the area" under the Los Angeles forums. Do some research and you should get some answers. Good luck.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3235947]Talked to this one today. She is another girl from my past that says she would be very happy to reconnect. Awesome 20 year old body. Lives not too far away. I am ready for her now. LOL.[/QUOTE]Damn you find some fine looking women. Hope you can get your issues resolved and get back to the level you were at before. You are the man. .

I just saw one of my UTR's from late last year. It was nice to see a familiar face and someone that's used to my quirks and eccentricities. She txted me out of the blue as she realized she was only 5 minutes from my house. So I picked her up and then dropped her off after at the train station.

The one pictured below is a POT I have been talking to off and on for a year and never met. In the beginning she was so adamant about her $$ so I just kept shining her on. Today she says, she has a day off coming soon, and will make the one hour train ride to my area for $ and maybe just hang out for a few hours. She is very sweet looking, 21 and in shape.

You never know when a pots fortunes will rise or fall, just as our own, and then their situation can be completely different. Usually over time they expect more. But not always.

[QUOTE=Steve4100;3237017]Damn you find some fine looking women. Hope you can get your issues resolved and get back to the level you were at before. You are the man. .[/QUOTE]One reason I love dating young black girls. Not only are they genetically predisposed to having better bodies a lot of them participated in sports all through school. A white girl with a body like this is going to want some serious coin to get frisky with an old fart like me. At this point, on average, I am triple these girls age. Life is good.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3237063]One reason I love dating young black girls. Not only are they genetically predisposed to having better bodies a lot of them participated in sports all through school. A white girl with a body like this is going to want some serious coin to get frisky with an old fart like me. At this point, on average, I am triple these girls age. Life is good.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree on the black girls. Most of the girls I see on a regular bases are also young and black. I even have a 51 year old black woman I see that could pass for 30. They also seem to be less inhibited. Only thing that seems to be better in white girls is that they are more likely to kiss. Black girls, for whatever reason, seem to not like to kiss. At least that has been my experience. I, like you, am much older than they are so not sure how much impact that has.

[QUOTE=Steve4100;3237073]Yes I agree on the black girls. Most of the girls I see on a regular bases are also young and black. I even have a 51 year old black woman I see that could pass for 30. They also seem to be less inhibited. Only thing that seems to be better in white girls is that they are more likely to kiss. Black girls, for whatever reason, seem to not like to kiss. At least that has been my experience. I, like you, am much older than they are so not sure how much impact that has.[/QUOTE]Most girls in general are not exactly addicted to kissing. It's a lost art. The one last night will do as I order her, and her kissing did get a little better as she got turned on. But she wasnt all that.

This one will be CoastSub. She's 32. Her profile specifically says she likes older dominant guys. Well, 1 outa 2 aint bad. She's tall, busty, way prettier in person than on SA, bright, traveled, employed. Extremely nice conversation, lots of hair tossing, etc.

I'm just having a better feel for these 30's gals. They don't flake the way many of the coeds do, they seem truly interested, and any one of them has potential to offer a real connection, something I'm looking for more after the handful of SBs I've had so far. They're half my age instead of the 1/3 my age I've been trying some. Still, 1 of the 3 30's girls I have right now will need to go to the FC for me to find if this is fertile ground to plow.

W / CoastSub. Lots of positive messages since MnG, so went for it. Drinks at the mall, and a better view of her. Not fat, but a larger frame matching her height, still a great rack, a beauty. Lots of great convo on culture, her knowledge surprised, then out to the parking garage, where I planned ahead. My car was isolated, excellent makeout session, she wants to know our next get-together. I whack her ass as she gets out. She loves it, swings it as she walks away. More + messages afterward. FC the next time for sure, but I have so many other MnGs, follow-ups, and work / travel, fitting it all in is my only problem. I know, a good one. I have so many POTs out of my last SA month, I don't mind my membership lapsing.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3235947]Talked to this one today. She is another girl from my past that says she would be very happy to reconnect. Awesome 20 year old body. Lives not too far away. I am ready for her now. LOL.[/QUOTE]I saw her today. It tuns out that 20 year old was actually an 18 college freshman. Sweet nice clingy girl. I will be seeing her again.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06d82902-8896-4541-8010-97a99ec071d0[/URL]

Princess Z: a day ago.
Hey you want to have some fun with me.

ME: a day ago.
What guy wouldn't.

Princess Z: a day ago.
Well I'm in town for the weekend if you want to 925-XXX-XXXX.

ME: a day ago.
Like the other site asks. Whats your price?

Princess Z: about 23 hours ago.
How long you want to see me for?

ME: about 23 hours ago.
An hour.

Princess Z: about 22 hours ago.
120.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3241104][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06d82902-8896-4541-8010-97a99ec071d0[/URL]

Princess Z: a day ago.
Hey you want to have some fun with me.

ME: a day ago.
What guy wouldn't.

Princess Z: a day ago.
Well I'm in town for the weekend if you want to 925-XXX-XXXX.

ME: a day ago.
Like the other site asks. Whats your price?

Princess Z: about 23 hours ago.
How long you want to see me for?

ME: about 23 hours ago.
An hour.

Princess Z: about 22 hours ago.
120.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Looks like from the pic she's a dancer😁 so limber.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;3241104][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06d82902-8896-4541-8010-97a99ec071d0[/URL]

Princess Z: a day ago.
Hey you want to have some fun with me.

ME: a day ago.
What guy wouldn't.

Princess Z: a day ago.
Well I'm in town for the weekend if you want to 925-XXX-XXXX.

ME: a day ago.
Like the other site asks. Whats your price?

Princess Z: about 23 hours ago.
How long you want to see me for?

ME: about 23 hours ago.
An hour.

Princess Z: about 22 hours ago.
120.[/QUOTE]Damn nice and nice price. I am about to report on my Sunday which was great.

Second time with a incredibly buxom AF. We didn't got to FC the first tie only because she was on her period. This time we knew we would and she couldn't even wait for me to lick her sweet pussy. She grew a bit of a patch for me and I was in heaven. Love trimmed and landing strips. We fit well and she has a killer smile. Her BJ skills are off the chart. I find out today I am like her third guy. She's been with her boyfriend, had one crazy night which she doesn't remember and now me. She's a sweetheart and th the cost was uber and one Ulysses.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;3242002]Second time with a incredibly buxom AF. We didn't got to FC the first tie only because she was on her period. This time we knew we would and she couldn't even wait for me to lick her sweet pussy. She grew a bit of a patch for me and I was in heaven. Love trimmed and landing strips. We fit well and she has a killer smile. Her BJ skills are off the chart. I find out today I am like her third guy. She's been with her boyfriend, had one crazy night which she doesn't remember and now me. She's a sweetheart and th the cost was uber and one Ulysses.[/QUOTE]This, but what's AF? - and I did check the glossary at the Richmond thread.

Hey Guys!

I was just looking in Craigslist and came across this post that I have put the link up here for an older type that wants to mentor a younger lady in the Ktown area who works in DTLA. Maybe this person doesn't even want sugar but maybe she wants sugar I don't really know but this could help one of you out so that is why I just put it here. [URL]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/w4m/5971239539.html[/URL].

Have a great day!

Justn Beaver.