Price Tricks .... That Works !!!!
Even if you are getting it from the Chat Line, on a $$per/min bases you are getting a better bargain than a street deal, especially if you are getting it on an hour base rate. Fifty for an hour is great. Fifty for a "Hit It and Quit It" is getting into being a little pricey, but far to the lower limit of that, so it is NOT a Bad Thing. You are still getting Safety & Security for your Money. Well, it should be a matter of Safety and a Secure place to do it at.
That is NOT always the case. You are walking into their territory, and their Scam. You have to be where. I have even had some women walk me through her place so I can feel secure. I gave them a line about being Scammed. They had no problem doing it. They wanted that Money/Cheddar.
[b]Anytime I negotiate a price, I always mentally have the set price 5-10 buck lower than the price I am willing to pay. If she wants 30, I tell 25w/5tip if she does well. If does not "No Tip"! I cut her a break anyway and give it to her, but only after I tell her I was NOT happy with her service.
If she settles for 20-25, again it is a price of 15-20 w/5tip. You will NEVER get this unless you can talk, about something more than "Hello". You have to be friendly, and make the SW feel you are a decent, nice, person, not rude, and crude. Being just a nice person will get you a whole lot more, and I mean a lot more extras, and she will come to you first over others, who might even pay more. I have had some SW's have the dude stop, jump out of their car, to get in mine. If that happened to any of you, I Apologize. It was her choice!
If she is a decent SW about an #8 or above, in Body & Face, she might have a slight atitude, and she will want more money. She knows it, the dealers have gotten there first, far before you, and they have told her so. Chances are she has hear it before them, at home or school/college.
Anyway, she will be wanting a starting price of 40, but you can almost always get her to 30-35, then you through in the 5-10 tip. She is often unwilling to go below 30 because she knows the streets and what the other girlz will take. Once you have negotiated the price ALWAYS tell her that you are paying this price because of her, and you won't pay this to anyone else, or to her again. Tell her this is a First Timer Price, but you like her, and want to be with her again, on a regular basis. She will see that as a good constant flow of money and very often will say, Yes. Set the price for next time, and hope she remembers. Be certain to get her digits, and call them while she is sitting in the car. These SW's change number so much, with lost and stolen phones that they can't remember new digits very well. I have been given old numbers before and they were wondering why I never called. I did to the wrong number. Then we got it straight, and after a few week again a new number, or no minutes.
If the SW thinks she is getting something special then she will be a lot more cooperative, and will remember you. If you can drive her to a store so she can pick up a few thing or be driven to get something to eat, she will she that as a PLUS, and treat you well. Not every SW is like this. Some are head Strong and expect it. Those you always be cautious of. They can turn on you in a second. They see themselves as Stars of the Streets.
Never ever drive her to get drugs. Never! If she needs drugs, then do the deed first, give her her money, and drop her azz off to do her drugs. Make that a "rule".
Lastly G-Man is right, watch out for the Tranny's for those of you who like me avoid them.
But if you like them. Don't let me stop Ya!
[QUOTE=Giani]Do NOT succumb to inflated fee schedules! Mr. Boomer says and did exactly the right thing, and so should all knowledgeable mongers.
While I do not aim for rock bottom prices, these are general Cincy rates:
0.2 + tip for BBBJCIM
0.4 + tip for CFS.
I may be willing to negotiate a little for service from a fresh SW with looks above 8. Also, if I know her, and know that she is exceptionally skilled and a GFE, I give her a raise. With the raise, she is happy and eager to see me the next time (I like that...)
On the other hand, mongers need to exert a FIRM hand from the start. As always, negotiate only after LE checks are made and you are out of the red zone. But... I no longer ask what she is asking. Always, once negotiations open, tell her what you alway pay. If she is not willing to budge on inflated prices like I see posted, tell her a matter of factly (with no hesitation or hostility) "Thanks anyway, but you are out of my price range. I'll take you back." Period. Turn around on the dime. Often, she will reconsider. But do NOT negotiate to a point much above the prices listed above. Dropping them back off is the best move you can make for obvious reasons. Do yourself and your fellow mongers the favor.
BTW--Trannys are sometimes more common than SWs. Here is a picture of one recently... If they are too tall, too thin, and too obviously in hooker attire... Look out
Giani[/QUOTE]
Quiet Streets Can Be A Plus .... Sometimes ????
(con't)
I now use a go between for the Ladies out there. Just tell the SW's you regularly use you want something different and tell her you are willing to pay a finders fee of 5-10, and see what happens. I get several calls a week and it works. Some call it Pimpin/Madam, I just call it referrals. They always have friends in need of cash and the friend is open, and unafraid because you come highly recommended and safe. One SW's I know just got ripped off/robbed of her purse, money, and drugs. She tried to Rip me off once, but I would let it. Now it happened to her, right near the old KFC. The pictures G-Man post if where the girls use to be. I always asked why they would hang around such a HOT area, and of course they said, because the tricks come by here. I knew that, but we do drive other areas. It is really because the deals are close by, and they don't have to go far to score. They are NEVER far from each other.
Still, once I got a few SW's to think about moving from the HOT area, they did and got more money, and it was safer. Only a few LE, but more drivers, and a better view of the situation.
Some are back there now, until they start to back sliding on heavier drugs. Then it is right back to her old ways. They make it easy for the Police. Too Easy!
The area of Findlay btw, Vine & Race is now the Hottest area, right at that very Small Park. The SW's hang too close to that area, and won't move aways. This is why it is so hard to find anyone.
That area is too exposed, and too unsafe. LE patrols it well. You can find a lot of the regulars, that have turned Hard Core there now. Even they will often take 15-20 now, when they use to take 30-40. Not for Me!
Looking at the Street $$per/min rate we really are paying the MOST, because we have less time to do anything. We may have to pay extra for a Short Room, or for what might be 15-20 of time. About a 1-1. 25 dollars per minute. Maybe a little more? This is why you have to play they game about not paying more for service.
It is bad enough Duke Energy is ripping-us-off, why let anyone else join that Club.
You can go without the SW's, but not without Heat. And Duke is Ripping Everyone Off, including LE.
THEY SHOULD BE arresting them (Duke) instead of SW's.
They are the Real Criminals. Duke Energy!
But White Collar Crime is NEVER as IMPORTANT. They have better Lawyers.
[QUOTE=Giani]I took a tour through OTR streets recently, and was struck by how empty they are. I took a number of pictures for old times sake. "Old timers" will recognize them, for sure. And I don't think I am revealing anything new to LE since they have swept these streets clean. But sometime in the future, the spring flowers may bloom.
Here are comments from the past on the pix in the present:
McM before Race: Used to be extremely hot. Often three SWs in the single block. But LE has good surveillance from the church. Never wise to pick up there. Nada now.
McM at Race: This corner was an excellent pick up point. Same caution as above only more so.
Findlay East of the Market: Very hot drug zone. A friend of mine often met an SW there, but once had his wallet stolen by some brothers standing next to the playground (stretches from Vine to Findlay). Many crack houses within a stone's throw.
Shell Station on Liberty: WAY too open, but lots of SWs would hang around there. Side streets made a pick up possible. LE often sat in the station lot.
West on Findlay: Bust going down. There are so few SWs these days, I would guess this is a dealer getting busted.[/QUOTE]
I THINK I SMELL "PORK" .... DO WE HAVE SOME POSERS ON THE FORUM ????
I would start double checking info given on this Forum for Posers/ LE.
Like they don't have enough Drug Dealers, Murders and Thieves to bust?
My Spider Senses are Tingling, and I feel LE crawling about.
I name "NO NAMES", but it will be a matter of time before the Truth is revealed.
The rest of you especially the Seniors know how to go into Discovery Mode, and to Beware of those you do not know. We have become "TOO Relaxed", and letting our defenses down.
As a "Warning" do not exchange person info, specific details unless they have given you factual details in the past and you trust them.
Never Ever give out your personal phone number/cell, or anyone elses unless you know them for a fact to be Ligit.
Use "UnCommon Sense"; take Precautious; heed Warning Signs; Trust No One New; hide Details; and Never Ever meet up with anyone, unless you personally know them, or they can be Vouched for.
There are more WARNING I am certain others will Add, after this Post?
ForEver Faithful!
Weirdest Response From CL
This girl goes by the name unluckystarr, here's what she sent me and BTW she said her man was black. So it kind of sounds like a scam type deal with a pimp and his girl on CL.
Sorry, I don't give out my phone number on the first date =)
Thanks for your interest. You flatter me! Heres the details:
*I have my own place. My roommate will be present but HE does not have to be in the room at the time. Sorry, but safety is my first priority and frankly some of you guys weird me out "wink wink giggles"
*I'm asking for a donation of 100.
*I primarily only do oral. However if you can give more of a donation I may be interested in doing more.
*There is no time limit, I will not try to rush you out the door. I have a vast assortment of porn you can watch! And I love Star Wars!
*I may want to video tape me in action and maybe take some pictures for my website. If you are ok with this, your face will not be in the pictures at all.
*I do have a selection of different outfits so if you have any special fetishes let know.
*I'm not asking for any doctor's papers or anything but I begging that you be clean. If you drop you pants and you cock has bumps and rashes on it all bets are off.
*If you want to see more of me, check out my webstie at [url]www.charliesangelz.info/unluckystarr.htm[/url]
If I haven't scared you away, which I hope I haven't, please write back and let me know.
Not for the money she wants!
Sounds like her Pimp Boyfriend is trying to make a Silk purse from a Sows Ear.
Not for the money she wants dude! Here Pimp is trying to turn this Porker into his Money Train, and she neither has the looks or build for it. She/He must be thinking Far Too Highly of her Looks. Far Too Highly for an SW.
I would bet she was working the Streets or Bars for 25-30, and he is telling her she can do better. In this way he can get a cut for "Security". Yea Right! She want 100 for oral only and more for F/S. Man PLEASE, you can go to a bar somewhere and spent 100 on drink and food, and get a Chubby in bed all night long.
This SW is too Homely to be ask for a benny for service. She is no more than a 50 buck SW at BEST, and that is giving her the benefit.
Keep your MONEY, and show her Azz the door.
Now if that is what you like, or You are in a Bad way then go ahead and PPV. Do what you need to. But if you are NOT, you can do Better, CL or Not.
Just My Opinion
[QUOTE=Jim 211]This girl goes by the name unluckystarr, here's what she sent me and BTW she said her man was black. So it kind of sounds like a scam type deal with a pimp and his girl on CL.
Sorry, I don't give out my phone number on the first date =)
Thanks for your interest. You flatter me! Heres the details:
*I have my own place. My roommate will be present but HE does not have to be in the room at the time. Sorry, but safety is my first priority and frankly some of you guys weird me out "wink wink giggles"
*I'm asking for a donation of 100.
*I primarily only do oral. However if you can give more of a donation I may be interested in doing more.
*There is no time limit, I will not try to rush you out the door. I have a vast assortment of porn you can watch! And I love Star Wars!
*I may want to video tape me in action and maybe take some pictures for my website. If you are ok with this, your face will not be in the pictures at all.
*I do have a selection of different outfits so if you have any special fetishes let know.
*I'm not asking for any doctor's papers or anything but I begging that you be clean. If you drop you pants and you cock has bumps and rashes on it all bets are off.
*If you want to see more of me, check out my webstie at [url]www.charliesangelz.info/unluckystarr.htm[/url]
If I haven't scared you away, which I hope I haven't, please write back and let me know.[/QUOTE]
Read the Old Post .... You have to do your Homework !!!!
Dude / Newbie,
It ain't gonna be that easy. You have to read the old post and the New,
and you won't have any questions.
Like everyone else you have to do your homework.
Just asking to repost what has already been posted is a waste of time.
Check out Giani, Dweezil, Word, and the people of other forums.
Look things up, read the 22 rules of Mongering, and get yourself a camera,
to show your success.
That goes to all Newbies .... Do Your HomeWork !!!! Then ask questions.
Use the Archives, they aren't that old. They will help bring you up to date.
I had to do mine to, it is unavoidable.
[QUOTE=Nymilt]I know that I'm new and haven't built up any trust yet but I'll throw this out anyway. I haven't picked up anyone in OTR in several years even though I drive through often to check it out. I've primarily used the chatlines or picked up girls in Madisonville (remember Destiny, the onetime escort? ), although that's gotten pretty dry in the last couple years. I don't like to stay in the car but often that's my only option. I don't have the luxury of a place nearby to go to and that's why I don't use OTR during the daytime. When the weather changes I'd like to give that area another try. Any tips on places that rent by the hour? What do they charge? Any info is appreciated and PM's are fine.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Your Friend Should Have Zoomed Out-of-there !!!!
Now THE MILFORD POLICE or CLERMONT CTY. POLICE IS DOING STINGS.
That is what the Folks here have been trying to tell you for Years.
Your Friend did the Right Thing. But he should have left sooner.
At the moment she refuse to let him touch/feel her, and show him or Pus_y, then "Get the HELL Out of There.
I mean "Fly / Zoom" out of there and say nothing.coming into the place say nothing.
Most good Escort/Providers will even give your Stick a Quick Lick, just to let you know she is No Decoy / Sting.
Police Decoys / Stings can NOT, by Law give your Stick a Quick Lick.
Also, people if you can get a Picture of her doing it, or a recording on a tape recorder / Cell Memo recording, agreeing to it that is even better.
If it is a Sting and she does you will be Happy you have it, and that you heard it here first.
You see these Police dept. , have to raise there arrest especially Drug and Vice in order to get the Federal and State Funds and to ask the City for a bigger crime budget.
They know there community does not warrant more money, so they have to lure people from other communities into there's to make an arrest. DON'T LET THEM DO IT!
Chat Line people the Police are Focusing on it and the C. L. , so BEWARE.
They know few SW's are on the streets, and men are using other methods as well as the other SW's.
Your Friend did the Right Thing. Buy him a Beer / Drink on me.
[QUOTE=Weedman]So a friend decided to check out the chatline the other night. A blonde in her mid to late thirties was advertising and straight to the point. My friend drives to Milford and goes to her place. She tells him that he can check the place out when he gets there. She seemed fairly attractive and immediately asks to see his package. He shows her then checks out her place. Nothing seemed strange. She asked to see money. Still being cautious, he then asks her to flash something and she refuses saying no one gets any freebies. My friend thought this was very strange. How could she feel weird about flashing, especially after already revealing his package. She then says if you don't show me some money then you can leave. My friend replied that if she doesn't show something he is going to leave. She then said bye and to not waste her time. My friend left, wondering if he had just evaded a scam. What do you guys think? Anyone else meet his girl?[/QUOTE]
