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[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]Court,
Hey old friend go to the Valley Ball on SB & Chase.
Or to the other-side of the valley at Roscoe & Canoga's Wet Spot.
Have fun w/your girl she sounds open-minded so be sure to take it slow now so that later you can have some real fun w/her!
Peace, the I Sadist[/QUOTE]Valley Ball aka Bare Elegance is indeed a good selection. My favorite is Rouge. Girl quality and fun is about the same, with Rouge providing a bit more mileage to me.
Good luck
I finally got back to that AMP just off of Van Nuys that we were told to "run not walk to" that's named after a popular 70's t.v. show character and opted for FS and was really really really disappointed. The girl didn't seem very into it, it just wasn't fun at all. I can't remember her name (I think Mia). If anyone can throw me the name of someone they enjoy over there I would love it. I like them smaller. I'm an ass man myself. I think on Monday I'm gonna head to Rouge and then off to the AMP and this is the last chance for this place, if this next time sucks I'm gonna have to try out somewhere else.
Went for 2 pop today. First Angie (k girl) at WH on Laurel. Amazing service- a real treat- amazing body. No clock watch. Tickling, tounge, yummy- and CBJ, and cg to finish. Then later went to WL on s. Way. Met BeB. Super hott young and responsive but a clock watcher- very surgical in fact. CBJ, cg, finished. Looking for Ebony therapist.
Anybody know?
Ebony providers only on CL, BP and MRB, that's it. You will not find them at an MP (very unlikely. Maybe in Compton).
Only issue with ebony providers is personal hygiene (to be honest with you. That kind of kills it for me but it is what it is).
Buck all day, Buck all night.
[QUOTE=Scvman1]Went for 2 pop today. First Angie (k girl) at WH on Laurel. Amazing service- a real treat- amazing body. No clock watch. Tickling, tounge, yummy- and CBJ, and cg to finish. Then later went to WL on s. Way. Met BeB. Super hott young and responsive but a clock watcher- very surgical in fact. CBJ, cg, finished. Looking for Ebony therapist.
Anybody know?[/QUOTE]
Egads, no SFV MP reports in 3 weeks. Let me try to get this thing started up again.
I was passing through the SFV today between here and there and back to here, and decided to try something new on the way back here. I have two reliable locations in the SFV, a third has disappeared, and other ventures have not been worthy of return. So looking for something fresh, and preferably a rub and tug with HE only. I really had no idea where to go. I remember reading a recent non-detailed but overall thumbs up review of this regularly advertised place in NoHo, and with the novelty of an MP that actually has a name, I thought I'd give it a go.
I had no idea going in if it was asian or latina, rub and tug or FS, or price structure. I wasn't going to play games either and make any effort to make them think I'd been there before. I figure with a wide open location and display ads each week in the rags, they feel comfortable enough to treat a first timer to the whole menu...whatever that might be.
So there on Lankershim, a few blocks north of the loud NoHo Renaissance districts and in the midst of urban gloom that reminds us of what NoHo used to be, is a big storefront that is completely dark with no "open" neon sign, but the gates are open under the large sign reading BLUE. Next door is a boxing club it appears, and then a tat parlor. This is old NoHo.
I park right in front and pushed in to the large lobby. Nobody seems to be home and I ring a bell. By now I've read the price chart and realize that at .5 for hh and .9/hour, that this is a FS store. Soon I hear the familiar sound of little asian feet running towards the front. OK, asian FS I'm supposing.
When the mms appears I instantly attempt to alleviate the shock of my being an unfamiliar face and tell her in a joking way that she doesn't need to run to come greet me. So I'm invoking an instant sense of comfort and familiarity, and I'm spared the 3rd degree. She shows me to a routinely appointed massage room, and long before I'm bare ass, a girl walks in. As I complete the change into my massage suit, she begins talking to me in spanish as if I was born in Guadalajara. Don't know how these latinas figure that the white naked man in front of them who they have never met speaks spanish, but she just lets loose with a barrage of spanish. So here's surprise no. 1, this is a mixed latina/asian place. I didn't see any asian providers, but the mamasan was asian and didn't speak a word of spanish, so I think I can correctly assume that most of the providers are probably asian.
Turns out I do speak spanish, but that is just a happy accident for the chica. So que bueno, we have communication - and more than I usually find with the English challenged K-girls and Chinese girls. Chica tells me she's a 50/50 Colombia/Mexico split. She's young at 20, sort of thickly built but more voluptuous/curvy than gorda. Nice natural C mammaries. Chica doesn't really know how to put herself together to make the most of her assets. She has indigenous looks and as if she's never taken 3 steps from her ancestral village. But studying her closely, I can't conclude that she's anything but pretty - certainly pretty enough to have the privilege of servicing my ugly fat ass.
When I tell her that she is pretty, she goes to a deep place and with great sincerity, denies that she is anything close to pretty. This was an absolutely sad moment - this chica was not portraying humility to drag more compliments out of me - I saw genuine belief that she is ugly in her eyes. She was clearly robbed of her self-esteem by one or more brutes, morons, cavemen and/or jackasses. Somewhere or everywhere along the line, this chica has not been treated well, affirmed or appreciated - a Cinderella bent out of shape by ugly step sisters.
The massage was seemingly somewhat skilled, but what the fuck do I know about massage just because I've had a few hundred of them in my life. So all I can say is she made an effort, unlike the Viet rush to the rim maidens I'm used to in the OC Animal Clinic, or my latina angel PSE provider in VN who would lose a massage contest to a gentle breeze. So I'm getting massaged like the latinas frequently do it - zero sensuality, no teasing, no understanding of the mysteries of male sexuality. That's fine if the massage is skilled and therapeutic, but I don't expect to realize any such benefit from this chica's realistic simulation of real massage. I am covered by large towels most of the way, but tell her that she has good hands and my ass wants to be rubbed by them - and that my good hands want to rub her good ass. To that she giggles, "no problema", so we are in business as I knew we would be.
I turned my head around and held her head in a lovers' pose - stroked her hair and caressed her face, and continued to insist that she was pretty and why wouldn't she think so? She seemed almost to want to cry, and I felt compelled to continue this project to elevate her self-image. I added some comedy to mitigate the touching aspect of the scene, and she was with me all the way. She asked if I'd give her my number and I agreed, though what else could I say? I asked her for a kiss under the pretense of teaching her bedroom English, and it was on. Our lips stayed locked while one of my hands enjoyed exploring under her dress and panties, and the other hand gently caressing her sweet breasts, now fully exposed.
Finally down to more serious business as time flew by, she asked if I wanted "todo". I indicated there wasn't really time since I had booked only 30 minutes and enjoy my todo slow cooked. So she attended to a HE, but not particularly skilfully. As usual with young latinas, I need to provide explicit instructions telling her where my intense pleasure zones were and she found her way to them. I had a great finish, and a few seconds later, she was out the door. I figured we'd exceeded the 30 minutes but that she'd be back with a hot towel or whatever to deal with the mess I'd made. She came back with a towel and took about 1 second to clean me up, and indicated that it was a big rush that I get my ass out of there. She was concerned.
She left again and I jumped up and got dressed quickly and waited for her to return at least for a tip. But she returns with mamasan and the two of them are feverishly putting the room together for a new session - though it seems like this place is quite large with plenty of other rooms available to any new customers. I could not figure this chaotic rush that the two of them seemed to be in. I did what I could to keep the mood light - joking with the mms about her lack of spanish in an environment where she was managing girls who did not speak any other language.
And mms stood there while I delivered a standard .4 tip to my latina Cinderella and praised her in front of the mms, all of which was received with tremendous appreciation and the usual genuflecting/blessing of the donation. I am an agnostic, but have always been touched by this ritual - young women from the 3rd world genuinely embracing raw survival. No sense of entitlement to anything in this world as we have infected our own over privileged children with.
It was one of the strangest experiences I have had in an MP. I've been doing much of these MP explorations over the last 15 months, but there are still many mysteries I haven't nailed down. I had an excellent release but the overall experience lacked most of the small touches that I find important to an excellent overall experience. The deficiencies were somewhat equalized by the gratification of having the opportunity to impart the idea to a latina Cinderella, that she is in fact a princess. I hope she will begin to embrace that idea.
Man that story is great.
I enjoy most of your reads. But this one. Is really great.
Thank you.
I can't compete with the depth and intelligence of The Camel's posts, so I won't even try, but I do want to post an update to a place I've mentioned before, in the spirit of his effort to revive this thread on the forum.
The place I visited is a simple RaT place. I don't do FS, I'm sort of a RaT rat, so it's OK for me. The place is near SW and Woodman, near Taco Ball (I think they even share a parking lot). It's in a strange little two-story office building. It's in Van Nuys or Noho... I'm not sure which.
Another poster here PMd me recently that the place had closed, but I got a funny feeling from his description of it and wanted to double-check. It hasn't. I think he went to the wrong office or wrong building. One thing that has changed is there is no longer a sign on the door, or any indication that the business is there any more. No name. Nothing. Your only clue is a door bell. I don't think they are even listed on the sign on the front of the building any more. Pretty low-key.
Over the past couple of years I've visited maybe four times. Each time, the provider was an average- to not-quite-cute-looking Chinese woman (5-7), between 25 and 40 years old. Each time, I got a fantastic massage, followed by HE. I've always had the impression more was possible, once you became a regular, but with six or more months between visits, that hasn't happened for me. I've seen a different masseuse every time.
This time, I got the oldest (45?), least-cute provider yet. I figured she was the mamasan and would get the real provider for me, but after leading me to the room and leaving, she returned. I don't think she was Chinese, but the music she put on seemed to be. I didn't care that she was so uncute, as she seemed sweet and friendly, and I had actually decided not to go for HE this visit. If it was offered, I wouldn't turn it down, but I wouldn't pursue it. I really needed a good massage.
BTW, when I rang the doorbell, I waited in the hallway for a minute or so. I could hear people moving around, and women's voices. She finally opened the door and just stood there and looked at me. I said, "Are you open for business?" and she let me in. I think there was at least one other customer in the other rooms.
Anyway, for the first time ever at this place, a towel was placed over me. MMS then proceeded to give me one of the best massages I have ever had. She popped my skull, my face, my ankles... she rubbed her hands to create warm friction on my spine. She really worked me over. It was wonderful. Definitely all-time top 5.
Throughout the massage though, there was a lot of noise from the neighbors. The business upstairs (I think it is a tax accountant) was working late, and people were going up and down the stairs, loudly. It was a little annoying, but hey, it's April 14, so what can you do?
The towel stayed on for the flip. After doing my feet for the second time, my provider (whose name I can't recall - it was four or five syllables, something like Yemenifootball) gave me a Swedish-style "karate chop"/tenderizer move up and down my calves and said, "Finished." It had been easily 40 minutes for what was supposed to be a 30-minute session.
She went and got a cup of water while I rose out of my state of bliss and dressed. When she came back, she asked, "You work upstairs?" (BTW, this was about the most understandable English she'd spoken during the session.) I told her I didn't and made a comment about them working late. She laughed and said they were usually gone long before. I said something about coming back for an hour next time. She leaned in to me, and said (as far as I could tell) something about coming back when the business upstairs was closed, and she would take care of me. I looked a little confused (because I didn't understand why the business upstairs would affect their practices), and she smiled and made the universal symbol of washing the wax off a supermarket cucumber. "I take care of you," she said. "You get both." I have no idea what she meant by "both," but she smiled and made the gesture again, and I agreed to come back soon. Maybe she said "boat," as in, I would leave a boatload of DNA... but I think such puns invoking the image of sailors (or seamen) were beyond her English abilities.
Total damage: .4 + .2 tip. She seemed very pleased at the tip, did a namaste move, and said, "Please come back soon."
Maybe I won't wait 6 months this time.
On another note, I drove by the place on Roscoe east of Jack-in-the-Box, and it was dark at 9:30. Anyone know what time they close?
Its nice to hear that there seems to be a group interested in a great combination massage. For me the HE at AMP part has been easy to find in the WH area of the valley.
However the great deep massage part is difficult as well as finding a therapist who is fit youthful and attractive. Ha ha perhaps this is too much to ask. Topless would be a huge plus to LOL, but it seems The K therapists are almost clinical to there He approach. Nothing erotic about it, just mechanics.
I have found good quality at times thru CV, however the price, and the connivence of a walk in joint (AMP) is what appeals to me. I have actually found some amazing thai massages in chatsworth that I frequent for the high quality deep tissue work, but after many visits I am almost certain HE is not a possibility. Any thoughts on the possibility of making my dreams come true in the WH area?
Went to Blue on Sunday. "jenny" Korean, Maybe 90 pounds soaking wet, a cup titties, cute face. She is cute but the service was very mechanical, would not repeat with her but blue has a pretty good stable most of the time and is convenient to me.
Well, I don't know about ATF....(Sachiko in IE in the last decade takes the prize!) but that is ancient history.
Dependable, freindly and dare I say FUN!?
Mia on Thursdays....Betty on Sunday (sometimes Friday)
Great Service (Yes, they are crazies...but harmless, fun and skilled - Theatrical)
enjoy!
Props to BC ! Thanks again for Latina 1, 2 & 3!
OC Man
I had Betty on Friday. Good time.
I like Mia better - she is younger and more into it.
[QUOTE=OC Man]Well, I don't know about ATF....(Sachiko in IE in the last decade takes the prize!) but that is ancient history.
Dependable, freindly and dare I say FUN!?
Mia on Thursdays....Betty on Sunday (sometimes Friday)
Great Service (Yes, they are crazies...but harmless, fun and skilled - Theatrical)
enjoy!
Props to BC ! Thanks again for Latina 1, 2 & 3!
OC Man[/QUOTE]
Been awhile since been here, definitely more quiet now. Switched to independents/agencies awhile ago but even that has been hit and miss in the valley lately, lucky if I get a 6 nowadays.
Anyhow, I do have some successes under my belt. After searching the longest time for the holy grail of a great massage with a great HE, I finally found it from a provider that opened her own solo private shop (business, not residential) in canoga park. On a ten scale, she gives a solid 10+ HE and at least an 8. 5 massage. She is open to trying new things even and was willing to blend the HE through the 8. 5 massage for 60 minutes of unbelievable bliss, all for. 8. The HE is no where close to anywhere I've been, and I've BEEN. She doesn't advertise and only see's past customers from AMPs she saw, though she will see new customers with a referral only. I'd like to refer her some people, but she is extremely LE averse and I wouldn't refer without a solid lead that bears fruit first (she is too valuable to risk!).
Other than that, I found a WH agency in an upscale condo that stopped advertising a long time ago. Getting reacquainting with them was an adventure story in of itself! As with all the Asian agencies, they can be hit or miss, but the setting and the price of 160 is very right. Referral to them is also tough as the too are on the extreme paranoid side (for good reason!).
I am trying to get in with a valley place I got a # off a provider some time ago (626). They operate out of a house but freaked when I called months back and didn't believe my referral. Ah well.
Might have to try this Blue. Though public AMPs scare me ever since I parked near one in middle of raid! ACK!
Well thought I'd share, stay safe everyone!
Went to a new place in Winnetka on Sherman Way since it was local and my usual place on Reseda/Kittridge was closed (Wednesday 4:00). Brand new, big sign out front. .4 for a half, .5 for 1. Got an older very nice lady, attractive for older but nothing to go crazy about. Sign on wall saying no illegal or sexual activity.
Very nice massage. After a while I touched her leg and she didn't pull away so freely rubbed her leg and her ass. After what seemed like forever I'm on my back and she whispers in my ear, "How much tip?" I say .6 and she's all happy and asks where it is and brings me my jacket. I give it to her and then she continues the massage. I'm getting perplexed and frustrated and then she picks up the towel for a peek and says it's sleeping. I say it's been going up and down since we started. She grabs my hand and puts it on it and so I start stroking myself waking it up. I expect her to take over and point it towards her but she pulls away. I ask her to take over, she says no. So I have to do it myself.
Ah well. I may go back, but just tip .4 if that's what I get.
Ack, that sucks man, sorry to hear it. I'd stay away that's bait and switch! (oh and I'd pay .40 for HE tip). If your willing to pay 1, go to the house in canoga park, they are .80 and are ok with a .20 tip (though happier with a .4). I never pay more than 1 for an HE and think .80 is more than fair.
[QUOTE=Blake 4]Went to a new place in Winnetka on Sherman Way since it was local and my usual place on Reseda/Kittridge was closed (Wednesday 4:00). Brand new, big sign out front. .4 for a half, .5 for 1. Got an older very nice lady, attractive for older but nothing to go crazy about. Sign on wall saying no illegal or sexual activity...
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[QUOTE=Roomba]Ack, that sucks man, sorry to hear it. I'd stay away that's bait and switch! (oh and I'd pay .40 for HE tip). If your willing to pay 1, go to the house in canoga park, they are .80 and are ok with a .20 tip (though happier with a .4). I never pay more than 1 for an HE and think .80 is more than fair.[/QUOTE]Tell us about that raid you drove into. It sounds crazy.