"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e0d0e66-0328-44ea-bfa1-d047b3b5c1d0[/URL]

Picture seller.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6087355]She says no car, no job. But asked if I could meet in L'burg or Farmville (I'm in Cville). She said she could handle the room (semi pro set up).

I said that wouldn't work, but if she could get to Cville I'd get the room nd give her $400 for two rounds in the afternoon and another $400 for two rounds in the morning.

She said -- now get this -- "This is why we've never met. You expect too much."[/QUOTE]Actually met for a M&G coffee today. It was a pain to set up since she was late, etc. Nothing special here. Looks much older than her pics. Decent physique, Not fat, but flat chested, if you like that sort of thing. . She was in a hurry to go / do something and we chatted for only 15 min. Was driving a nice vehicle that she said was not hers, could have been a rental. I'll pass.

[QUOTE=Vince2000;6087331][URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/fef36503-8e22-4573-97d7-3f518df75741[/URL]

Anyone meet this hottie?[/QUOTE]The link goes to your messages.

[QUOTE=Vince2000;6086847][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f83fc6a6-6921-414a-88ee-2d7c6db03a74[/URL]

Started texting, she is slow is responding doesn't know what she is looking for.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/2a2cca0a-3852-4e89-8bcf-78f6084f5531[/URL]

Wants $$ upfront so she can meet. Pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/4f219b57-4d53-4fda-8d8a-e79761526ce3[/URL]

Chatting for a week doesn't want to meet until she feels comfortable itseems which I don't have a clue but she wants help LOL.

So I passed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9b174be7-5fd1-4f2b-a4f8-a22c7fe8c23c[/URL]

Needs money upfront to know you are real she asked to send some money to do nails / wax LOL.

And planning to next this weekend will update.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/0f1c99fc-5546-40b9-9887-3bc19b1cf6a5[/URL]

Want $350 per meet.

Please share your experience if you have seen anyone. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Alla the links except the first are to your messages.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2196f534-4433-4727-a888-2d6c957639e1[/URL]

Ready to meet asking $$ ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f83fc6a6-6921-414a-88ee-2d7c6db03a74[/URL]

Doesn't want to meet yet want to take it slow, very slow in responding.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e9ae5bb-5db8-41a3-8ceb-639b720796e5[/URL]

Wants $100 upfront but not ready to meet, just texting nothing much.

I am getting all kinds of girls from South America favoriting me. And this is very unusual because I keep my profile hidden from search. They are not supposed to be able to find me unless I have gone to their profiles. I put in a customer service ticket (two actually) w / SA, that something had gone wrong with that. I haven't even gotten an acknowledgment yet from them that they received it.

[QUOTE=Vince2000;6090222][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2196f534-4433-4727-a888-2d6c957639e1[/URL]

Ready to meet asking $$ ppm.

[/QUOTE]She sent me pics, and she's stretching the definition of curvy almost as much as she stretches the elastic in some XL spanx. She will host in her apartment in Hampton. I didn't partake, I don't mind curvy, but I'm not into obese.

So I've not had a paid membership for 2-3 months but have time to devote to finding some new Babies.

I was waiting to see if they'd run a Labor Day special, hopefully it's coming soon.

Also, who has had success in the last week or so using a Vanilla Card? I never had a problem when SA was $79.99-$99.99. I'd get the prepaid $100 VC & it always worked. I haven't tried one now that it's $109.99. Once a year or so ago I had bought the.

Reloadable Vanilla Card & it didn't work. I was able to get CVS to switch it out for the $100 one.

Thanks DF.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6090241]I am getting all kinds of girls from South America favoriting me. And this is very unusual because I keep my profile hidden from search. They are not supposed to be able to find me unless I have gone to their profiles. I put in a customer service ticket (two actually) w / SA, that something had gone wrong with that. I haven't even gotten an acknowledgment yet from them that they received it.[/QUOTE]Just yesterday I had the same thing happen to me. I checked my settings and the the Activity selection had flipped to from Hidden to Visible. I moved it back. It happened again today. I am going to have to check every time I log in.

BAM.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6090241]I am getting all kinds of girls from South America favoriting me. And this is very unusual because I keep my profile hidden from search. They are not supposed to be able to find me unless I have gone to their profiles. I put in a customer service ticket (two actually) w / SA, that something had gone wrong with that. I haven't even gotten an acknowledgment yet from them that they received it.[/QUOTE]Same thing was happening yesterday to me.

[QUOTE=ShaniPie;6090268]She sent me pics, and she's stretching the definition of curvy almost as much as she stretches the elastic in some XL spanx. She will host in her apartment in Hampton. I didn't partake, I don't mind curvy, but I'm not into obese.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing the details. I think she travels couple times in Richmond is what she said and that time she wants to host.

I might take a plunge. Will keep posted.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;6090163]Alla the links except the first are to your messages.[/QUOTE]I reposted the links.

[QUOTE=Tyrex2;6090660]Same thing was happening yesterday to me.[/QUOTE]I've had that problem for several months. It's a real problem.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/a8f6b0d28c3086a7[/URL]

Have any of you paid for this site and found that when you do that no women answer when you message them, I mean none at all? Is it a total rip off? I got banned from seeking so desperate to find a good sb site.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/88182637-c0e1-4bfa-ae50-6ae60d27872c[/URL]

If anyone has seen her let me know. I got a late night message from her. I got a pro vibe, but I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;6093228][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/88182637-c0e1-4bfa-ae50-6ae60d27872c[/URL]

If anyone has seen her let me know. I got a late night message from her. I got a pro vibe, but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]I saw her last March when she had a different username. See post #21118 from me and 21097 from someone else. The price is right and she can host in her apartment on Grace Street. Nothing to write home about but decent.

[QUOTE=BagIt;6093119][URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/a8f6b0d28c3086a7[/URL]

Have any of you paid for this site and found that when you do that no women answer when you message them, I mean none at all? Is it a total rip off? I got banned from seeking so desperate to find a good sb site.[/QUOTE]That site "can" work and does. That said, the whole basis of the set up is to get you to spend your credits. Unfortunately for you, it worked. There are many, many fake profiles on there and then there's some, that just don't respond. I guess my skills of spotting a fake ad have been honed over the years. I may even be an intermediate at that now🤣.

The first girl I messaged on there years ago led to a several year "relationship" that still continues today. So I KNOW it works. Many others have stated all the games and bots aren't worth the price of admission.

Not too effective in my particular area is "sugar fetch" maybe you can see if it yields better results for you. Not many SB's on there in my area. ORRR, just try picking them up "in the wild".

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;6093267]I saw her last March when she had a different username. See post #21118 from me and 21097 from someone else. The price is right and she can host in her apartment on Grace Street. Nothing to write home about but decent.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel. I may save her for when I'm in a drought.

[QUOTE=PPJones;6093546]That site "can" work and does. That said, the whole basis of the set up is to get you to spend your credits. Unfortunately for you, it worked. There are many, many fake profiles on there and then there's some, that just don't respond. I guess my skills of spotting a fake ad have been honed over the years. I may even be an intermediate at that now. [/QUOTE]Would you mind sharing how to spot a fake profile? I've found two legit SB's on the site that have lead to pleasurable encounters. But 95% of the time I don't receive a response to my message. I've wasted hundreds of dollars. SA is the much better value. I would and have given up on SB entirely but by the end of my month on SA I seem to have exhausted all potential leads and need another site to look for chicks on.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;6094337]Would you mind sharing how to spot a fake profile? I've found two legit SB's on the site that have lead to pleasurable encounters. But 95% of the time I don't receive a response to my message. I've wasted hundreds of dollars. SA is the much better value. I would and have given up on SB entirely but by the end of my month on SA I seem to have exhausted all potential leads and need another site to look for chicks on.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]So, there's a major difference in the way those two sites work. One, gets you to spend credits to message girls, while the other gives you a timeline.

SA, get on there, message as many girls as you can in your quick month, in an attempt to gain "off site" paths of communication (phone, email, SM accts).

SB,. Be selective on who your messaging and only message those that appear to be real, or at least look like they will actually meet.

The similarities:. DO NOT mention sex or money on ANY site.

Read that last line again☝65039;.

Any communication about pretty much anything should be done "off-site".

I can NOT give you what I learned in YEARS of searching in a quick write up on how to spot a fake or fraud, but I can give you a few tips.

If someone from Cali is favoriting and messaging you and you're from Virginia, haven't looked at her ad and haven't favorited her, 🚩 that's a red flag (prolly fake).

If they look to good to be true 🚩.

If wording in the ad is misspelled or grammatically incorrect 🚩.

If things just don't seem to add up🚩.

I'm sure there's many more experienced mongers here that can add to this short list, but that's what I could come up with at the time. Feel free to jump in fellas with any others.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;6093228][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/88182637-c0e1-4bfa-ae50-6ae60d27872c[/URL]

If anyone has seen her let me know. I got a late night message from her. I got a pro vibe, but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]Definitely a pro but will talk your ear off about how she isn't. She's just "looking for some help until her first paycheck from her new job". I've seen her 3 times and she was high enough that she forgot what tale she told on the first visit. She's skinny, pretty good tits and overall body but no ass or hips whatsoever. Early 30's but looks younger and told me she has never before had to pay bills on her own. Had a live-in bf (he's locked up) and she was fucking her mom's bfs for years but that dried up when mom moved. Poor thing. She's not a great lay but will get the job done and can be flexible on $$.

Can't get much traction with any of these hotties. Some read all messages, but no replies.

Anyone having better luck?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5824af20-0b63-4c55-9955-310e9aa72107[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1a4ff6ec-f54e-4845-b26b-7373b9731caf[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb47d766-952f-495d-9e96-4fa6a9f58779[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fd096726-ed54-4a70-b9fd-d7970f1fb6ab[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce19609c-5933-4750-a664-931d7f017a39[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7dd12105-2393-41d3-94fa-7284c3c2ed07[/URL]

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;6094828]Can't get much traction with any of these hotties. Some read all messages, but no replies.

Anyone having better luck?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5824af20-0b63-4c55-9955-310e9aa72107[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1a4ff6ec-f54e-4845-b26b-7373b9731caf[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb47d766-952f-495d-9e96-4fa6a9f58779[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fd096726-ed54-4a70-b9fd-d7970f1fb6ab[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce19609c-5933-4750-a664-931d7f017a39[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7dd12105-2393-41d3-94fa-7284c3c2ed07[/URL][/QUOTE]Had a brief convo with the 5th one a couple of months ago. If you are older than her stated age range you're probably SOL. Doesn't want to see older guys.

The sixth one sent me a message and I replied. No response yet but she only logs in every few days it seems.

The rest just seem fake to me so have never reached out to any of them.

First one replied saying she was looking for Online Only.

Last one blocked me after reading my last few messages -- she must be real, scammers never pass up a possible mark.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6095315]

Last one blocked me after reading my last few messages -- she must be real, scammers never pass up a possible mark.[/QUOTE]She's probably real, but she might have done you a favor. After reading her profile and checking out her pics I'd be worried she'd boil my bunny if I pissed her off. Those eyes are capable of some serious, off-the-handle anger.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;6094828]Can't get much traction with any of these hotties. Some read all messages, but no replies.

Anyone having better luck?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5824af20-0b63-4c55-9955-310e9aa72107[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1a4ff6ec-f54e-4845-b26b-7373b9731caf[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb47d766-952f-495d-9e96-4fa6a9f58779[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fd096726-ed54-4a70-b9fd-d7970f1fb6ab[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce19609c-5933-4750-a664-931d7f017a39[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7dd12105-2393-41d3-94fa-7284c3c2ed07[/URL][/QUOTE]#6 is def real. She was briefly the utr flavor of the week years back and has been through the wringer since. Monkey, greybar, rehab. The whole cycle. Last I knew she had settled in to make a run at the straight and narrow but maybe she's hit a rough patch. When I saw her last she was charming, cute (think Meg Ryan in Top Gun) and willing to please but really wasn't my favorite body style.

They are not trying to sell videos or pix or asking for money for silly reasons but seem legit.

Some guys ask for a picture of the girl with a paper with the date on it and the words Hello Joe on the paper.

Who wants to set up a hotel meet and have NO SHOW or a meet and greet with a no show.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks CM.

Just like the song says: Santa knows. I have been with this girl on and off for a few years, She was extremely shy at first, and only 18, which was hot in its own way. She'd only been with 1 guy when we got started and I believed her because I wound up teaching her what to do and having "firsts" with her was a turn-on! First time swallowing, rimming, doggy, anal, rough sex, handcuffs, bondage, spanking, deep throat, facial, blowing cum bubbles. The list goes on and on. She was definitely nice once upon a time. Now she is definitely naughty!

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;6098420]Just like the song says: Santa knows. I have been with this girl on and off for a few years, She was extremely shy at first, and only 18, which was hot in its own way. She'd only been with 1 guy when we got started and I believed her because I wound up teaching her what to do and having "firsts" with her was a turn-on! First time swallowing, rimming, doggy, anal, rough sex, handcuffs, bondage, spanking, deep throat, facial, blowing cum bubbles. The list goes on and on. She was definitely nice once upon a time. Now she is definitely naughty![/QUOTE]Is she still looking for any SD LOL.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6098069]They are not trying to sell videos or pix or asking for money for silly reasons but seem legit.

Some guys ask for a picture of the girl with a paper with the date on it and the words Hello Joe on the paper.

Who wants to set up a hotel meet and have NO SHOW or a meet and greet with a no show.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]I always require a phone call w / a POT before the meet. Now, I am usually going for the upper quality level of girls, not the bargain basement, and I am trying to build rapport with them. I did a trip to Chicago recently I have posted about. Several of my main POTs, I posted about on the Chicago sugar thread. A SD ridiculed me because it was just 'you talked to all these women'. Well, actually, the building of the relationship before hand led to great experiences once I was w / them. And I never send my real photo before I speak w / them. If the convo isn't good, I don't want my photo in the hands of someone who has absolutely no obligation to me.

It is so so easy for girls these days to engage in a text conversation. They can delude themselves they aren't really doing anything naughty, etc. And say all kinds of sexy stuff, send pix, etc. However, it is a whole different matter for them to get into their car to go have coffee with a guy twice or more their age, or prepare to meet him to bang. Why would I think a girl would do that if she wouldn't talk to me by phone? I can't tell you the number of times I have not been able to get a girl to take a call, and I eventually dropped them. If they do talk to you there is no guarantee that they won't flake the M&G, but the chances are reduced.

And about the hotel, I try to get the girl to agree to book the room at the M&G, as I have a SO and don't want the paper trail. Obviously, if she is booking the room and showing up there, she is committed. I am seeing a 20's MILF spinner this Friday, this is just our second FC. She booked the room the first time, and we have been scheduled a couple of other times, and she sort of went crickets. Well, no problem for me. I still don't know why we didn't meet those times, excuses were made, we'll see how it works out Friday. The only loss for me when she does this is that I could have tried to book another girl at that time. W / limited opportunities to get out to FC, that has value, but it isn't a terrible loss.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6098069]They are not trying to sell videos or pix or asking for money for silly reasons but seem legit.

Some guys ask for a picture of the girl with a paper with the date on it and the words Hello Joe on the paper.

Who wants to set up a hotel meet and have NO SHOW or a meet and greet with a no show.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]I think a lot of legit girls would get offended at being asked to send a pic with some kind of message. Usually you can sift them out in convo about your local area, there life etc.

But snapchat offers a great way to do that without seeming sordid. Lets chat there, and they can send a live shot with a little narration.

How to verify.

Thanks CM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af29e41a-e76b-4f03-9844-262bbf2a6223[/URL]

Her first message was.

I seek mutually beneficial arrangement that's drama free and full of fun but first I'm really bored and horny sorry if I'm being too forward how about you tip my Payapp for a sexy FaceTime or some naughty yummy content that will make you feel good and think about me all the time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d859e2b9-c880-4cc3-abfe-f07217f0881a[/URL]

Started texting it's been a week but no sign of meeting. Very slow in responding.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8f91f6f4-8cfa-4f41-8500-cd6fff00bdd7[/URL]

Going to meet weekend for a date.

[QUOTE=Vince2000;6100513][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d859e2b9-c880-4cc3-abfe-f07217f0881a[/URL]

Started texting it's been a week but no sign of meeting. Very slow in responding.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8f91f6f4-8cfa-4f41-8500-cd6fff00bdd7[/URL]

Going to meet weekend for a date.[/QUOTE]The second one is definitely dtf. I've texted with her, just haven't pulled the trigger.

SA discount SEP2022 V25 25%.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6100475][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af29e41a-e76b-4f03-9844-262bbf2a6223[/URL]

Her first message was.

I seek mutually beneficial arrangement that's drama free and full of fun but first I'm really bored and horny sorry if I'm being too forward how about you tip my Payapp for a sexy FaceTime or some naughty yummy content that will make you feel good and think about me all the time.[/QUOTE]Dude, look at the bright side. With those thunder thighs if she crossed her legs while you were eating her, you'd be freak'and history!

Haven't been in Richmond in a couple but will be returning next month. Remembering a great utr / sb who likely isn't there anymore, but she did let me take some vids. If anyone wants to trade, she was a smokin petite spinner.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c1a2c932-0361-4062-8338-92916c6adc91[/URL]

She's hosting out of her apartment in Chester. Semi-wannabe-pro, but very under priced so don't be a white knight and up her expectations. Legit Russian. Claims she's giving massages, the only thing that got massaged was the back of her throat. BBFS. She's not 5'9, more like 5'0, and add about 10 lbs to the pics. Nothing exceptional but decent and cheap if you're in the area. She didn't let me in the backdoor but all 3 are open and I could have gotten in with a little more incentive.

Well, this is really annoying.

Had my SA account for many years, and all it took was one crazy and pissed off POT to get be banned.

I have tried to sign up again using different emails, credit cards, addresses, and even VPN. But as soon as I try to pay for Premium membership, I am banned again.

So, what's the trick to get around this and to successfully create a new account?

Or maybe it's time to move on from SA, but what's the other options out there that is as good or better?

Thanks.

TG9.