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[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6425923]My weasel words have served me well. I think I'll be going back on Saturday to get another stamp on my frequent fuckers card. I'm conflicted because I really need to cum on those tits.[/QUOTE]Nice one! I knew she would be negotiable based on my visit. You really need to have some game and make her feel good to make that budge. After all we still need to remember these are girls, and girls love being swooped off their feet.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6425944]I agree with this. The reason why I see my ATFs so much is because they give me free BBFS, I'm not sure if they would be classified as UTR but they're definitely not the popular ones. Once they start asking me for outrageous up charges I'm outs LOL.[/QUOTE]We on same page my friend, mine is usually more on the popular ones with freebie, but they started gotten greedy since last year so I dropped them to the "junk" list and moved on with new ATF's ever since then. The old ones still reach out to me, but I just don't find it motivating enough to see them anymore cas upcharge game will affect chemistry esp long term game.
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If you look at it from her perspective, she could do 3 guys cip for 100 or 1 guy cip for 300. It is not worth the risk. Chinese are the least likely to offer BBFS. Helen was the first one I got it from and she just made it happen. In the end she is smart. Better to be safe and not sorry. And she is beautiful. She is a monthly for me but she is straight up beautiful.
All girls that are busy end up not being as tight as they were yet still tight (for me anyway). My first time with with Helen back at Grace on her first day back from China. I could feel myself stretch her out. Her pussy was near virgin tight. At first it was too much but by the end I swear I fucked her until she loved me. I fucking destroyed that little room at the end of the hallway at Grace. I was like horizontal pushing off the wall and there was a waist height bed.
It is one of the best fucks I ever had. It was so good that I didn't want to see her again. I was like nothing will ever top that with her again. I saw she was giving up the butthole at BG so saw her again and got size rejected and then she went to DDY. And that first visit at DDY she became my current ATF. I really have to be careful and not develop feelings for her but I do really like her and I will be sad when she is gone. She gave me her timeline but maybe that will change. I had to stop seeing her every week because I was way too attached. Some day she will just be gone really messed with my head. I hear some guys say she is meh or guys that don't repeat. I am like she is perfect IMO. She is perfect in every way. I know what her pussy tastes like and I know what it tastes like when she cums. She never pulls the fake shit with me.[/QUOTE]Although most Chinese are hard no on raws, but in kylies case, she was trying to knock out 3 birds with 1 stone (3 CIP at the cost of 1), a few here and there might pay it, but thanks to her the market game will have an uproar. All approaches are different, helen is a keeper for sure, I think she got mad at me for milking juices out of her pussy last time at DDY so she didn't reach out to me anymore. Better catch her before she gather enough funds for returning overseas geng. She told me she's planning to retire in a few years or so; pending eta cas she needs the funds first.
[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6425943]I've got to know the MMS at 4 different places pretty well and a lot of girls pretty well. This dude wrote a bad review on this girl saying she didn't want to kiss. I knew the girl. She was like the guy didn't cut his nails and they were long and he was fingerbanging her and he was biting her during kissing. Biting.
Another girl I know had some guy make a website saying she is a hooker and messaging her friends on FB. Another girl had some loser sit outside the AMP she worked at yelling at people and yelling how he was going to call the cops or UN or some shit.
[B]I was in a room when Kim got punched by some dude with another customer's I'd trying to get in and she punched him back.
Guys going in robbing places. Guy punching a girl's nose.[/B]
A lot of nasty stuff happens to these girls so I always am on the more compassionate side. My penis isn't but the rest of me is, haha.[/QUOTE]Are there ever any reports of customers defending them? I'm not going to lie, I'm really nice and gentle but I'm also pretty fit and grew up LA so I do have a bit of hood to me. I just need to know if this happens at any of my encounters to either leave it be or be the knight in shining armor, because I'll lay someone out if I feel endangered myself. I did train in brazilian jiu jitsu and muay thai for a number of years, don't ask me how I found this hobby LOL.
None. On a Friday. WTF is going on!
Is dr. Lisa back or retired?
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/mature-sensual-slightly-kinky-in-or-out-call-in-downtown-boulder/37901965[/URL]
I've been bareback-fucking her off and on for about a decade, from when she was based in LA, before the Colorado move. But she's now moved permanently to the NYC area, having incalls currently in Manhatten and north Jersey. The ad above is old, but that's her current number. Pissing while fucking raw is the name of her game. If you like nice, nasty, pee-play loving, big natural-titted, in-shape GILFs, you would surely enjoy her. Her face is surely mature, but her body is just fine, IMO, and her PSE skills are off the charts.
A couple of pics she just sent me, below. I havn't raw-dogged her in years, but the pics below are just as I remember her, and I've been told by those who've seen her very recently, that they are quite acurrate. If you search her name here, you'll find more pics as well as some that I myself took, years ago.
Liz is a bit of a unicorn. A breath of fresh air, these days, in which the Oldest Profession has become dominated by thug-managed junkies. Liz, on the other hand, is an old-school harlot, a dignified lady on the streets, but a cum-craving PSE whorre on the sheets. And in my opinion, one of the best. I can answer questions about her privately, what to expect, etc. , for those cuntributing seniors who are interested.
[QUOTE=Dynolas;6426338]Is dr. Lisa back or retired?[/QUOTE]I remember reading that someone got her number and is scamming guys now.
[QUOTE=IronClad999;6425994]We on same page my friend, mine is usually more on the popular ones with freebie, but they started gotten greedy since last year so I dropped them to the "junk" list and moved on with new ATF's ever since then. The old ones still reach out to me, but I just don't find it motivating enough to see them anymore cas upcharge game will affect chemistry esp long term game.[/QUOTE]LOL my ATF's span is about 2 weeks. When new girl comes, I get a new ATF!
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6426254]None. On a Friday. WTF is going on![/QUOTE]Bummer. Karin is off the cumming soon list as well. I don't think Sena / Kawano made her expected appearance in NYC as well (MMS said she missed her plane).
[QUOTE=RyanLar;6426395]LOL my ATF's span is about 2 weeks. When new girl comes, I get a new ATF![/QUOTE]My ATF is still AriaDD. I gave serious thought to flying to Seattle (hi IronClad999!) to see her. Who would have knew that she would have retired so soon.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6426254]None. On a Friday. WTF is going on![/QUOTE]I am just waiting for some reports on that big titty 600 girl at 1010 and the new k girl at PP at damn 450. They are charging more than the japanese girls ffs.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6426091]Are there ever any reports of customers defending them? I'm not going to lie, I'm really nice and gentle but I'm also pretty fit and grew up LA so I do have a bit of hood to me. I just need to know if this happens at any of my encounters to either leave it be or be the knight in shining armor, because I'll lay someone out if I feel endangered myself. I did train in brazilian jiu jitsu and muay thai for a number of years, don't ask me how I found this hobby LOL.[/QUOTE]I was naked after fucking Tori and she was post cum out cleaning or whatever and there was a ruckus but it didn't sound like a fight. It sounded like goofing around and it was like 5 seconds. The guy ran off after Kim punched him. LOL. I would have fought the guy if I'd known. Shit, could parlay that into some discounts.
[QUOTE=IronClad999;6425998]Although most Chinese are hard no on raws, but in kylies case, she was trying to knock out 3 birds with 1 stone (3 CIP at the cost of 1), a few here and there might pay it, but thanks to her the market game will have an uproar. All approaches are different, helen is a keeper for sure, I think she got mad at me for milking juices out of her pussy last time at DDY so she didn't reach out to me anymore. Better catch her before she gather enough funds for returning overseas geng. She told me she's planning to retire in a few years or so; pending eta cas she needs the funds first.[/QUOTE]I saw Kylie and never knew she did raw at all until reading it here. The first girl I remember charging 200 is Helen. Helen gave me the exact month she is leaving. Not even two years.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6426413]My ATF is still AriaDD. I gave serious thought to flying to Seattle (hi IronClad999!) to see her. Who would have knew that she would have retired so soon.[/QUOTE]Seems like we share a lot in common DK, not sure why I was mentioned here LOL.
[QUOTE=IronClad999;6426450]Seems like we share a lot in common DK, not sure why I was mentioned here LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL! It's only because I see you posting all the time on the Seattle KAngels forum.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6426408]Bummer. Karin is off the cumming soon list as well. I don't think Sena / Kawano made her expected appearance in NYC as well (MMS said she missed her plane).[/QUOTE]Spoke too soon. Looks like Xoxo has Kana, another big boobie JGirl, here for the next 3 days: [URL]https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/317[/URL].