"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I had the discount offer on my phone show up but when I went to use it later I could not find it.

Any ideas Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6032536]I had the discount offer on my phone show up but when I went to use it later I could not find it.

Any ideas Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]Those 20 and 25 percent offers pop up randomly. I might get it 3 or 4 times a day and then its a few days later before another one pops up. The thing is you have to use right then, you get off the payment page showing the discount, it's gone. If you have an old profile you haven't used in ages, it will usually show the discount when you log on. I keep two profiles and have switched between them keep the discounts going.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6025395]Sorry, Mr. ER89, I don't think you get to define what people do here. And in particular, I think if you are in the habit of passing girls around that you've FCed with, you're really just a glorified monger. All of your high and mighty stuff about the right way to treat SBs, but then wanting to get a menu and prices from other guys? That is just escort world. Even if UTR.

If a girl has a menu, she is an escort. If a girl has a time limit, she is an escort. There are escorts on SA to be sure, and if that is the experience you want, go for it, "hun". It isn't the reason I am on SA, and I have a good reason to be here without that.

This is a de facto national sugar baby thread. Many people who aren't in Richmond post here. So I never would seek intel about a profile from someone here, because I am 3000 miles away.[/QUOTE]I never said anything about being the nice guy or the good guy, we are really all the villains here. I'm not defining anything, I'm just calling about behavior that doesn't help the collective. What counts as passing? Several people brag about giving out the girls personal numbers, I don't do that, if you want intel on a profile sure, the menu, cost, and key details to help someone out I don't mind sharing that. "glorified monger" that describes nearly everyone here, at least I don't lord money over them like several senior members that cried to the mods / admins about getting called on stealthing, which is a crime. " then wanting to get a menu and prices from other guys?" you mean what 90% of the board is, that's literally every board in each state asking those questions and posting the girls profile, and people doxing them via arrest records like look in the mirror and do some self reflection, we aren't the heros we try to act as.

SB are escorts, with more steps. Don't kid yourself. You are a John, and they are escorts.

This is to all of us not a particular member

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6025767]ECCIE is a fucking shithole. Has some of the most angry and delusional mongers out there. Since the chicks post it's nothing but a drama-filled echo chamber with an equal number of white knights. Only useful for reading and laughing.[/QUOTE]We are just as bad, the girls aren't here but they talk through their johns, since we are literally johns.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;6033192]I never said anything about being the nice guy or the good guy, we are really all the villains here. I'm not defining anything, I'm just calling about behavior that doesn't help the collective. What counts as passing? Several people brag about giving out the girls personal numbers, I don't do that, if you want intel on a profile sure, the menu, cost, and key details to help someone out I don't mind sharing that. "glorified monger" that describes nearly everyone here, at least I don't lord money over them like several senior members that cried to the mods / admins about getting called on stealthing, which is a crime. " then wanting to get a menu and prices from other guys?" you mean what 90% of the board is, that's literally every board in each state asking those questions and posting the girls profile, and people doxing them via arrest records like look in the mirror and do some self reflection, we aren't the heros we try to act as.

SB are escorts, with more steps. Don't kid yourself. You are a John, and they are escorts.

This is to all of us not a particular member[/QUOTE]As you'll find if you read this thread more often, you get exactly the bowl you are looking for. If you want to monger, you can find the sleaziest.

I can tell you that I and many guys I have seen post here have had relationships from SA that you could not define as escort-like. But if you don't want that, knock yourself out.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;6033192]I never said anything about being the nice guy or the good guy, we are really all the villains here. I'm not defining anything, I'm just calling about behavior that doesn't help the collective. What counts as passing? Several people brag about giving out the girls personal numbers, I don't do that, if you want intel on a profile sure, the menu, cost, and key details to help someone out I don't mind sharing that. "glorified monger" that describes nearly everyone here, at least I don't lord money over them like several senior members that cried to the mods / admins about getting called on stealthing, which is a crime. " then wanting to get a menu and prices from other guys?" you mean what 90% of the board is, that's literally every board in each state asking those questions and posting the girls profile, and people doxing them via arrest records like look in the mirror and do some self reflection, we aren't the heros we try to act as.

[b]SB are escorts, with more steps. Don't kid yourself. You are a John, and they are escorts.[/b]

This is to all of us not a particular member[/QUOTE]100%. Some folks on here get really upset when they get told the truth. You aren't a sugar daddy (unless you are keeping these girls in an apartment, car, and any other spending needs). If you aren't locking her down with your sugar money, you're a monger, and they're a hooker. Seems the delusion that isn't just one-sided with the chicks.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6033353]100%. Some folks on here get really upset when they get told the truth. You aren't a sugar daddy (unless you are keeping these girls in an apartment, car, and any other spending needs). If you aren't locking her down with your sugar money, you're a monger, and they're a hooker. Seems the delusion that isn't just one-sided with the chicks.[/QUOTE]Seeking went from seeking arrangements to seeking. They did this because they wanted to shake the reputation of being a conduit for facilitating prostitution. Remember they had allowance tiers in their profiles. For guys, it was their budget. For girls, what they expected per month. Now Seeking is trying to be a "dating" site for the wealthy folks. Girls still talk about arrangements. There are lots of scammers, thieves, and girls expecting to be compensated by the hour.

In the very beginning, I tried setting up a girl in an apartment with her signing the lease and I helping with the rent. Guess what. I was squeezed out of seeing her and down 3 grand. Most wealthy guys will not risk their assets or safety using such a dangerous platform as seeking (arrangements). If a guy was truly connected and has $, he would find willing girls in his circle. That's my take. The website seeking can't shake its history or reputation. It invites scammers by its very nature.

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;6033370]Seeking went from seeking arrangements to seeking. They did this because they wanted to shake the reputation of being a conduit for facilitating prostitution. Remember they had allowance tiers in their profiles. For guys, it was their budget. For girls, what they expected per month. Now Seeking is trying to be a "dating" site for the wealthy folks. Girls still talk about arrangements. There are lots of scammers, thieves, and girls expecting to be compensated by the hour.

In the very beginning, I tried setting up a girl in an apartment with her signing the lease and I helping with the rent. Guess what. I was squeezed out of seeing her and down 3 grand. Most wealthy guys will not risk their assets or safety using such a dangerous platform as seeking (arrangements). If a guy was truly connected and has $, he would find willing girls in his circle. That's my take. The website seeking can't shake its history or reputation. It invites scammers by its very nature.[/QUOTE]I've gotten more "sugarbabies" (hookers that don't think they are) off the site than I ever did through the subscription. Everyone talking about "game" should just play the game in the wild. Seeking is just another hooker advertising site, whether folks want to admit it or not.

comment: HOLY SHIT! I'd never co-sign anything with these girls.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6033399]I've gotten more "sugarbabies" (hookers that don't think they are) off the site than I ever did through the subscription. Everyone talking about "game" should just play the game in the wild. Seeking is just another hooker advertising site, whether folks want to admit it or not.

comment: HOLY SHIT! I'd never co-sign anything with these girls.[/QUOTE]I didn't co-sign anything. You should reread what I wrote and what I was responding to.

I paid the $ for 2 months rent and security and after a few times spent at the place she cut off contact with me. I did that because I thought that's how the game was played, loyalty and all.

The guy I responded to said for the girl not to be a hooker and to be a sugar babe you need to pay their rent, car payment and some expenses. That's nonsense because most of them will try to cut you off the first chance they get something they think is better.

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;6033370]Seeking went from seeking arrangements to seeking. They did this because they wanted to shake the reputation of being a conduit for facilitating prostitution. [/QUOTE]Not to gloss over this point as it is the reason dudes get banned so fast these days. But, Seeking made the changes they made because of FOSTA / SESTA law that was passed to shutdown BP. Given what you mentioned about income levels and expected levels for meeting in the past, yeah the have to "shake the semblance of being a conduit for prostitution. " But they are doing more by firmly banning anything that looks like or smells like prostitution. Brandon Wade is trying to save his cash cow and stay out of jail. Those dudes at BP could likely have made adjustments to prevent under-aged and trafficking and still been around today. So Wade is being proactive and I am sure hopes he is building an affirmative defense.

You guys have obviously gotten onto the wrong part of the Richmond page. If you really think your view is the right one, there is a thread called 'Escort Reports' just for you.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6033783]Not to gloss over this point as it is the reason dudes get banned so fast these days. But, Seeking made the changes they made because of FOSTA / SESTA law that was passed to shutdown BP. Given what you mentioned about income levels and expected levels for meeting in the past, yeah the have to "shake the semblance of being a conduit for prostitution. " But they are doing more by firmly banning anything that looks like or smells like prostitution. Brandon Wade is trying to save his cash cow and stay out of jail. Those dudes at BP could likely have made adjustments to prevent under-aged and trafficking and still been around today. So Wade is being proactive and I am sure hopes he is building an affirmative defense.[/QUOTE]I think the site is beyond saving. There's so many scam artists, mixed in with thieves, pros, seemingly innocent College girls who want texting buddies and allowances, etc. I went to College a few decades ago. I knew of a couple girls my age back then who got their rent and some spending $ through having relations with much older guys. There was no internet back then. They went to parties or functions and mixed. Wade's getting rid of Arrangement word can't get rid of the terminology that girls or guys use on the site. It's reputation is arrangements, and its users use the site accordingly to their agenda: to scam, utr, pro, arrangement, thieve, whatever.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6033263]As you'll find if you read this thread more often, you get exactly the bowl you are looking for. If you want to monger, you can find the sleaziest.

I can tell you that I and many guys I have seen post here have had relationships from SA that you could not define as escort-like. But if you don't want that, knock yourself out.[/QUOTE]I personally would love to find a College girl who just loves older men and that's their biggest motivation in joining Seeking. There are very few left on the site who fall into the category. Have you experienced otherwise? I have experienced mostly scam artists and thieves.

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;6033905]I personally would love to find a College girl who just loves older men and that's their biggest motivation in joining Seeking. There are very few left on the site who fall into the category. Have you experienced otherwise? I have experienced mostly scam artists and thieves.[/QUOTE]Indeed I have. And I am eligible for social security. I have had at least one FC w / many girls in college in their early 20's, even a few teenagers (I was over 3 x their age). I think it all depends on your locale. I am in southern California. Every sugar bowl is local.

I have a trip upcoming to Chicago and I am fishing in their sugar bowl in advance. One issue is that there are a those who portray they are looking for long term. Obviously, as a visitor, I can't too easily promise that. My approach. Some list short term in their profiles, but I am also searching specifically within the Open Relationship and Married but Looking categories, figuring that it might be appealing to them that I already have a place to meet up, something that can be hard to arrange in some situations w / guys who have a SO (like me).

Does anyone have any other indicators to a POT who would be amenable to a guy just flying into town for business?

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;6033905]I personally would love to find a College girl who just loves older men and that's their biggest motivation in joining Seeking. There are very few left on the site who fall into the category. Have you experienced otherwise? I have experienced mostly scam artists and thieves.[/QUOTE]Adjective Noun user names are fake.

Virgnia, Virginia locations are fake.

And about 1/4 or more of the profiles in Cville and Hburg that acctually list locations end up being fake too.

Fortunately I can usually find a college girl each semester with daddy issues and sorority dues / wardrobe tastes / spring break plans beyond their means.

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;6033905]I personally would love to find a College girl who just loves older men and that's their biggest motivation in joining Seeking. There are very few left on the site who fall into the category. Have you experienced otherwise? I have experienced mostly scam artists and thieves.[/QUOTE]College apartments start their rent August 1 so keep your eyes out for returning students needing a Sugar Daddy. I have best luck with grad students. Too many pic seller undergrads.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6033795]You guys have obviously gotten onto the wrong part of the Richmond page. If you really think your view is the right one, there is a thread called 'Escort Reports' just for you.[/QUOTE]Take your delusions elsewhere.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;6034327]Take your delusions elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Lmao!! It's all the same just attitudes are different. Those that know what they are and those that don't realize it just yet. But sooner or later they all come to same conclusion. Be safe why'all.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6033795]You guys have obviously gotten onto the wrong part of the Richmond page. If you really think your view is the right one, there is a thread called 'Escort Reports' just for you.[/QUOTE]Actually, you could put this thread under "Escort Reports" and it would work just fine. Most of this thread and others are all about pay per meet, etc. That's a straight up hooker and monger outcome. Why pretend it's anything else?

Ego.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6034701]Actually, you could put this thread under "Escort Reports" and it would work just fine. Most of this thread and others are all about pay per meet, etc. That's a straight up hooker and monger outcome. Why pretend it's anything else?

Ego.[/QUOTE]Eh, not exactly. For girls I date off of STG, KA, them, EI, LS / EA, etc. I expect and it often is transactional in nature. Most of those girls don't want to go out to dinner, go to shows, attend the gallery or go to a ball game, they just want to FC and collect the money.

With a SB I am looking for more: a causal relationship as well, not just wham, bang, thank-you-mam, but all of those extra-circulars listed above. So there IS a distinction.

But hey, for many unknowledgeable dudes or less refined they don't see the distinction and treat most SBs as escorts. It is because most of the payers haven't evolved to or don't have the wherewithall to operate on a higher level, that most girls quickly give up the concept of a monthly allowance and accept the concept of PPM.

While anyone advertising on an escort website has accepted they are a prostitute, most true SBs don't want to see themselves as prostitutes. We all know if a girl is flatbacking and there is money involved then she's a prostitute. But to land some of these low mileage, higher end girls and establish an on-going relationship, one needs to feed her fantasy of SB / GF style and not treat her like a P2 P girl or a prostitute.

I know what it is, but I'm willing to play the game she wants as to land a better level of date and something on-going. But I hear the stories about my "competition" that are viewed by these girls as Neanderthals for their crude, rude approaches that threat them as common wh*res. If one can't understand the distinction, they are fishing in the wrong locale and muddying the waters for the those willing to do things on a different level.

Not bashing anyone, just offering an alternative point of view.

To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6035820]Eh, not exactly. For girls I date off of STG, KA, them, EI, LS / EA, etc. I expect and it often is transactional in nature. Most of those girls don't want to go out to dinner, go to shows, attend the gallery or go to a ball game, they just want to FC and collect the money.

With a SB I am looking for more: a causal relationship as well, not just wham, bang, thank-you-mam, but all of those extra-circulars listed above. So there IS a distinction.

But hey, for many unknowledgeable dudes or less refined they don't see the distinction and treat most SBs as escorts. It is because most of the payers haven't evolved to or don't have the wherewithall to operate on a higher level, that most girls quickly give up the concept of a monthly allowance and accept the concept of PPM.

While anyone advertising on an escort website has accepted they are a prostitute, most true SBs don't want to see themselves as prostitutes. We all know if a girl is flatbacking and there is money involved then she's a prostitute. But to land some of these low mileage, higher end girls and establish an on-going relationship, one needs to feed her fantasy of SB / GF style and not treat her like a P2 P girl or a prostitute.

I know what it is, but I'm willing to play the game she wants as to land a better level of date and something on-going. But I hear the stories about my "competition" that are viewed by these girls as Neanderthals for their crude, rude approaches that threat them as common wh*res. If one can't understand the distinction, they are fishing in the wrong locale and muddying the waters for the those willing to do things on a different level.

Not bashing anyone, just offering an alternative point of view.[/QUOTE]Generally agree. All relationships are transactional in nature, including marriage, where you pay a huge "exit" fee at the end, or get reamed in the family court. For some of us guys, we are older, no wife, no kids, retired, and have money. We like some female companionship and conversation that lasts longer than a 30 minute FC appointment. I enjoy the longer interaction, and often keep up with my best girls via text etc. Some girls will blow you off for this sort of arrangement, and are going for a quick buck. If they only knew what I have spent on longer term SB's, LOL. -Krusty.

[QUOTE=KrustyDawg7;6036315]Generally agree. All relationships are transactional in nature, including marriage, where you pay a huge "exit" fee at the end, or get reamed in the family court. For some of us guys, we are older, no wife, no kids, retired, and have money. We like some female companionship and conversation that lasts longer than a 30 minute FC appointment. I enjoy the longer interaction, and often keep up with my best girls via text etc. Some girls will blow you off for this sort of arrangement, and are going for a quick buck. If they only knew what I have spent on longer term SB's, LOL. -Krusty.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Marriage can be a VERY expensive and inconvenient transaction. I wish my present self could meet my teenage self and give him some valuable life advice in this regard. But rather than have regrets over the path not taken, I am happy to be unmarried, semi-retired and have the financial resources and free time to bang sweet young things with abandon. SWs / Escorts / UTRs? Been there, done that. Had a lot of fun. Still partake from time to time. But SBs can be superior in every way and, done right, don't break the bank. Aren't SBs just young. good looking, expensive escorts? Some of them certainly can be. Just as some SWs / Escorts / UTRs can occasionally be very worthwhile. It's just a matter of the ratio. More SBs tend to be fantastic experiences than the others. Occasionally you get the best of all worlds and find a reasonably intelligent and relatable SB who is both fun to fuck and also intriguing before and after fucking. If fucking is all a particular SB is good for, then fuck away. The shine will most likely however quickly leave that penny, and variety will be sought. However, occasionally a gem will be found and the overall transaction will be quite satisfying and worth longevity. Maybe not marriage-like longevity, but perhaps that's a good thing. At least the exit doesn't cost you half your stuff.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6033998]I have a trip upcoming to Chicago and I am fishing in their sugar bowl in advance. One issue is that there are a those who portray they are looking for long term. Obviously, as a visitor, I can't too easily promise that. My approach. Some list short term in their profiles, but I am also searching specifically within the Open Relationship and Married but Looking categories, figuring that it might be appealing to them that I already have a place to meet up, something that can be hard to arrange in some situations w / guys who have a SO (like me).

Does anyone have any other indicators to a POT who would be amenable to a guy just flying into town for business?[/QUOTE]I travel extensively so do my Sugaring away from home. Don't read the Babies profiles to literally. I've had success with some who's profile screams do me to some that say platonic. A lot of what they post, especially college girls is there for there sorority sisters or in case a guy perusing the site may recognize them (family, Dad's friends in the bowl or people they know), so they look like they aren't looking to be easy or intimate. I've had Babies tell me they put platonic to dissuade the creeps, especially if they were especially hot.

It's really a numbers game. Message all that have profile pics that get your blood flowing south. Like always, get them to text if their SA messages are positive. Get some more pics, see if they look filtered. I can usually get an ass pic, I ask in a non creepy witty way and tell them not asking for nudes. Some times they send nudes anyway. I always screen that if we have a connection if a physical or intimate aspect is something they are down with. The more you do your homework before you jump on the plane to Chi Town, the more likely you'll be successful.

I do very few M&G, but you being away from home, a couple with an extremely hot Baby.

May pay dividends. Of course unpaid.

Also, it goes without saying to go to the Chicago board & do a deep dive on the Sugar thread. Go ahead & ask for assistance from the Chicago board. I find a Daddy may share intel on a Baby he's seeing with a Daddy making a short visit.

Reading the thread will also give you a heads up on the going rates for allowances.

Good luck, hope it works out!

Ok people let's get back to what this forum is about. I am chatting with this girl and with someone this young I like to get feedback to see who has seen her. Any help is appreciated.

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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6033998]Does anyone have any other indicators to a POT who would be amenable to a guy just flying into town for business?[/QUOTE]When I'm setting up a work trip, I search my basic parameters (height, age, etc, and "recently active" Then, I send out a gazillion of the same basic message to women I'm interested in. Something that starts out along the lines of "Hey! I don't know if this is the type of arrangement you're looking for, but I'm going to be in Your City and was wondering. " From there, it's the basic numbers game. Some trips, I get no dates, others I'm busy 3 or 4 evenings. And, one of my ATF arrangements was in a city I travel to regularly.

Let us know how it goes!

Sorry for some reason my last link did not paste correctly. Just looking to see if anyone has any info on this cutie.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/2e3262c6-7c67-4150-8ddf-882f5d122f51[/URL]

Is your inbox not the profile link

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6037571]Sorry for some reason my last link did not paste correctly. Just looking to see if anyone has any info on this cutie.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/2e3262c6-7c67-4150-8ddf-882f5d122f51[/URL][/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=KrustyDawg7;6036315]Generally agree. All relationships are transactional in nature, including marriage, where you pay a huge "exit" fee at the end, or get reamed in the family court. For some of us guys, we are older, no wife, no kids, retired, and have money. We like some female companionship and conversation that lasts longer than a 30 minute FC appointment. I enjoy the longer interaction, and often keep up with my best girls via text etc. Some girls will blow you off for this sort of arrangement, and are going for a quick buck. If they only knew what I have spent on longer term SB's, LOL. -Krusty.[/QUOTE]All relationships exist on a continuum. Marriage is at one end and streetwalkers are at the other. There is a big middle. For me, a sugar baby is more like a mistress or kept woman. I often stay in touch long after the arrangement is over. I have an ex-SB sending me beach photos from her new set up in California. Another shares vacation videos. I recently had an SB from nearly five years ago recontact me. She left an abusive relationship and wanted to get back together. However, it is also true that everyone finds the sugar bowl they are seeking. The trouble comes when someone who only wants a transactional sugar bowl insists that the one they find is the only "true" sugar bowl. Or vice-versa. There are many types of bowls and they are all correct.

BAM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c12c2474-2952-4e33-ab54-5e302366aa88[/URL]

Gents good sugar dating experience with this one if you can catch her while she is posting. I've dated several times when she was in the 757 area.

BG.

Time is your friend. As mentioned earlier, it's a numbers game. I have done this each time I've have a few days out of town in a major market. A few days or weeks even before your trip, blast as many messages to girls as you can. Move them off site to discuss terms, screen out as many fakes and scams as possible, and the day or two prior to landing, line up the ones you really like or land in your budget. Keep in mind, even with 3 or 4 lined up, statistically, only one or two will be show. Also, Chicago is expensive so be prepared to pay premium for premium. I've scored pretty well when I did this in Atlanta, Orlando, and Vegas. And don't understand estimate the time it will take. Orlando was my first trip with SA and learned the hard way to be better prepared. The Atlanta trip I f*cked two the first 5 hours I was there, another the next day, and had to cancel another because I was too beat up. I'm getting too old for this shit.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6033998]I have a trip upcoming to Chicago and I am fishing in their sugar bowl in advance. One issue is that there are a those who portray they are looking for long term. Obviously, as a visitor, I can't too easily promise that. My approach. Some list short term in their profiles, but I am also searching specifically within the Open Relationship and Married but Looking categories, figuring that it might be appealing to them that I already have a place to meet up, something that can be hard to arrange in some situations w / guys who have a SO (like me).

Does anyone have any other indicators to a POT who would be amenable to a guy just flying into town for business?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;6038074]Time is your friend. As mentioned earlier, it's a numbers game. I have done this each time I've have a few days out of town in a major market. A few days or weeks even before your trip, blast as many messages to girls as you can. Move them off site to discuss terms, screen out as many fakes and scams as possible, and the day or two prior to landing, line up the ones you really like or land in your budget. Keep in mind, even with 3 or 4 lined up, statistically, only one or two will be show. Also, Chicago is expensive so be prepared to pay premium for premium. I've scored pretty well when I did this in Atlanta, Orlando, and Vegas. And don't understand estimate the time it will take. Orlando was my first trip with SA and learned the hard way to be better prepared. The Atlanta trip I f*cked two the first 5 hours I was there, another the next day, and had to cancel another because I was too beat up. I'm getting too old for this shit.[/QUOTE]LOL.

Awesome insight. But what do you mean by 'better prepared'?

Yes, those principles are similar to some I have seen in the past.

Jesus, not sure what is wrong with me today. Ok third time is a charm. Does anyone have any info on this one. I finally made contact via text but she is slow playing me. Spidey senses starting to get actived.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ac7e5f92-fda5-47e5-8f2d-b2b66ccd2c7d[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6038337]Jesus, not sure what is wrong with me today. Ok third time is a charm. Does anyone have any info on this one. I finally made contact via text but she is slow playing me. Spidey senses starting to get actived.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ac7e5f92-fda5-47e5-8f2d-b2b66ccd2c7d[/URL][/QUOTE]Working on it as well. I'll update you if anything.

[QUOTE=EasyeOne;6038512]Working on it as well. I'll update you if anything.[/QUOTE]So I texted her last night and she asked for a pic. My spidy senses were going off so I just picked a random pic of the net. Whn I sent it over she asked for more. Very fishy. I told her I would send only one and asked for another one in return. To see if the pics were the same as on the profile. Not a good start.

Going to see this one pretty soon. Does anyone have any experience with this one.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a71c7f87-5e53-4353-bd13-f1ce20a94aac[/URL]

[QUOTE=BamBam;6037681]All relationships exist on a continuum. Marriage is at one end and streetwalkers are at the other. There is a big middle. For me, a sugar baby is more like a mistress or kept woman. I often stay in touch long after the arrangement is over. I have an ex-SB sending me beach photos from her new set up in California. Another shares vacation videos. I recently had an SB from nearly five years ago recontact me. She left an abusive relationship and wanted to get back together. However, it is also true that everyone finds the sugar bowl they are seeking. The trouble comes when someone who only wants a transactional sugar bowl insists that the one they find is the only "true" sugar bowl. Or vice-versa. There are many types of bowls and they are all correct.

BAM.[/QUOTE]Yes. SDs will suggest that their sugar philosophy and approach is the right one, but everyone does what works for them, which will likely be a blend of what has worked for others. I personally have never had a SB relationship that extended beyond the end of the arrangement. I suspect that this is because I never sought that kind of connection. I have always wanted more than bang-bang, done, bye-bye, but not so much that there was a deep interpersonal bond. We are all different. They are all different. There are many ways to play in the bowl. They are all valid and, in the end, we all get what we want and how we want and for the reasons we want it.

I'd start at least a week in advance, especially if you are trying to meet a more traditoinal SB type vs. UTR / Semi Pro. The UTRs won't care, but they also have a lot more options and are more likely to bail same day when they get a better offer.

I've had most of my best sugar adventures on the road and several slumber parties over the years.

First, like them stretch the truth. I tell them I visit every month or so as work dictates, so it doesn't feel like a one off even if it is.

Second, set them at ease. I usually say something like "So if meeting a visitor on that frequency isn't too far out on the NSA end of the Sugar Spectrum for your sensibilities, I hope to hear from you".

Third, be clear on your expectations. Can't really spend time on M&G when on the road, which is why I start early. Message them frequently and get them to text ASAP so you can filter by damage and menu. But let them know you want to get to know them before landing so our time together doesn't feel so transactional. And reinforce this in your discussions, both tone and expectations. "hoping we can meet for drinks, dinner and adjourn for dessert and a midnight snack. And maybe even breakfast in bed".

Fourth -- have back ups. Schedule your preferred POT first -- 6 pm or as early as you can, your 2nd for 730 and tell her you you have to go out for drinks with client. If 6 pm shows, then discretely text your back up to cancel. "Dog / kid is throwing up and wife is freaking out, blowing up my phone all night, won't be fun to meet with all the drama / calls / texts". If not, then you have a back up. Once, my back up I cancelled texted me the next morning since she was at the gym not far from my hotel and said she still wanted to meet me. Ended up in my room for a quickie not an hour after my preferred gal left after our slumber party!

Fifth -- if you are married / involved, don't hide it unless you never get check in / good night calls from home. Nothing worse than some gal getting pissed you have to stop eating her to talk to wife if she thought you wouldn't be uninterrupted. Plus the good ones will understand and either blow you or play with themselves for you to watch while you are on the phone.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;6038985]Yes. SDs will suggest that their sugar philosophy and approach is the right one, but everyone does what works for them, which will likely be a blend of what has worked for others. I personally have never had a SB relationship that extended beyond the end of the arrangement. I suspect that this is because I never sought that kind of connection. I have always wanted more than bang-bang, done, bye-bye, but not so much that there was a deep interpersonal bond. We are all different. They are all different. There are many ways to play in the bowl. They are all valid and, in the end, we all get what we want and how we want and for the reasons we want it.[/QUOTE]I have been very lucky and on three occassions I have hooked up with SB and didn't pay anything. My SB we dated for about two months. She went back to her home state but after three years we still keep in touch. I do consider a friend and she does as well. I do like and charish those relationships. However, now, as I am back in the bowl. Those three expriences were like lightining strikes. I don't think I'll ever have that again but a guy can dream.