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Dropped by in the morning and got Rita. She showed me to 107. She was wearing jeans shorts and a women's "a top". She's petite, about 5 ft to 5'3" with natural B's and a pretty face with decent English. In the room the usual and I went for the hour. Her massage was great and used oil which helped get some of my knots out. The usual massage for maybe a good 10-15 minutes with teasing which was nice. After flip asked what I wanted and I said everything. She started with great BBBJ and DFK. Then let me dine in 69. After she grab cover and rode me. Wanted to change positions but felt her grip on junior and let her ride till filling the bag. She kept riding enthusiastically and junior was still good to go, so she just kept riding for a few more. I told her I had busted and she was surprised. She cleaned me up and we just laid there relaxing and massaging each other. After a bit junior was ready but time was running out, she asked if I wanted round 2, but didn't want to rush the last few minutes so decided to just relax in each others arms till time was up. Went to the restroom after and go to meet the line up. Everyone is beautiful in their way. I would repeat with Rita. Hf for hr. 6 and 1. 6 tip.

Also good luck to all those in the finals of fantasy football. If I win I know how some of my winnings will be spent.

[QUOTE=ColPucker;6265032]I was just asking for advice on who to ask for if I go to Golden looking for a good legit massage.

My favorite by far is Chloe at Sakura, but it can be tough to get a booking with her so I'm looking for backup options.[/QUOTE]I recommend sticking with Chloe or Wendy at Sakura for the best legit massage. The ladies at Golden are good but they are not great like Chloe or Wendy. As a backup spot, okay and Cici is probably better for that there but she's probably the oldest and not a looker. I like a looker giving me a massage. LOL.

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Once a month I will go window shopping and try a new AMP especially when I'm in a new area. I stumbled upon one on Pacific Heights Road in Mira Mesa, in a strip mall where there is also a SDCCU bank. The sign say Holistic Acupuncture but they have a flashing massage sign. I go in and was greeted by Jessica, a 30 something cutie with long black hair. I like her look and she was friendly and welcoming so I stayed. It's $70/ hour, slightly higher than other nonFS spas but I like younger beauty over GILFs and will gladly pay the extra $10. I also like that they have a 45 minute option for $60; great when I'm on a lunch break. Jessica took me to the furthest room in the back with a bed for Thai style massage. Jessica gave an amazing medium to deep tissue massage and got out all the kinks. There was no teasing during the 30 minutes massage. After a warm towel wipe down the tease started with her rubbing my inner thighs and as soon as I spread eagle she was not shy with grabbing junior and the boys. When she saw I was doing push ups with junior (LOL) she asked me to flip over. Junior was at full attention and Jessica had a huge smile on her face. Her English was decent and she asked if junior wanted to play. Of course I said yes. Jessica has a banging body, one you would find at a FS spa. She grabs my hands and placed it on her body. I won't go into all the details of activities because these girls do want activities discussed, but she eventually got in her birthday suit. Great eye contact, nice and sensual release. YMMY, but don't think $40 tip will be enough for what I received. It was totally worth it! Jessica told me she's the oldest one at the shop with usually 3 girls working. They rotate girls often so call if you want to see a particular girl.

Because she said she was the oldest and the other girl working with her is more beautiful, I went back and saw Jenny. Jenny is one you can see in any of the ads on RubMD. She is beautiful with red highlights. I've been going to AMPs for 10 plus years and will say that Jenny is probably in my top 5 most beautiful at a nonFS AMP. She is probably number 3 in my current rotation in terms of beauty. Sorry I can't share the other 2 because they are UTRs. Again Jenny does not work there every day so call ahead.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6265926]Once a month I will go window shopping and try a new AMP especially when I'm in a new area. I stumbled upon one on Pacific Heights Road in Mira Mesa, in a strip mall where there is also a SDCCU bank. The sign say Holistic Acupuncture but they have a flashing massage sign. I go in and was greeted by Jessica, a 30 something cutie with long black hair. I like her look and she was friendly and welcoming so I stayed. It's $70/ hour, slightly higher than other nonFS spas but I like younger beauty over GILFs and will gladly pay the extra $10. I also like that they have a 45 minute option for $60; great when I'm on a lunch break. Jessica took me to the furthest room in the back with a bed for Thai style massage. Jessica gave an amazing medium to deep tissue massage and got out all the kinks. There was no teasing during the 30 minutes massage. After a warm towel wipe down the tease started with her rubbing my inner thighs and as soon as I spread eagle she was not shy with grabbing junior and the boys. When she saw I was doing push ups with junior (LOL) she asked me to flip over. Junior was at full attention and Jessica had a huge smile on her face. Her English was decent and she asked if junior wanted to play. Of course I said yes. Jessica has a banging body, one you would find at a FS spa. She grabs my hands and placed it on her body. I won't go into all the details of activities because these girls do want activities discussed, but she eventually got in her birthday suit. Great eye contact, nice and sensual release. YMMY, but don't think $40 tip will be enough for what I received. It was totally worth it! Jessica told me she's the oldest one at the shop with usually 3 girls working. They rotate girls often so call if you want to see a particular girl.

Because she said she was the oldest and the other girl working with her is more beautiful, I went back and saw Jenny. Jenny is one you can see in any of the ads on RubMD. She is beautiful with red highlights. I've been going to AMPs for 10 plus years and will say that Jenny is probably in my top 5 most beautiful at a nonFS AMP. She is probably number 3 in my current rotation in terms of beauty. Sorry I can't share the other 2 because they are UTRs. Again Jenny does not work there every day so call ahead.[/QUOTE]I just found this place a few weeks back as well while cruising through RubMd. I've seen Jessica and echo your thoughts, and Jenny is my current favorite. This place is ideal, I do some meetings a couple of times per week at Qualcomm right across the street and I love the two rooms with Thai style beds.

[QUOTE=HiroSlammer7;6266169]I just found this place a few weeks back as well while cruising through RubMd. I've seen Jessica and echo your thoughts, and Jenny is my current favorite. This place is ideal, I do some meetings a couple of times per week at Qualcomm right across the street and I love the two rooms with Thai style beds.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm thinking Jenny will be everyone's favorite. She is that hot! Jessica is not bad, but Jenny is who I want to continue dreaming about after a satisfying session. LOL.

The girls told me new girls rotate often there. I look forward to seeing more hotties there.

[QUOTE=Vegas13;6263314]Hello there!

My education level is a bit low and kind of worried.

I have been with this hobby on and off, been to 108 couple of times in last few days, it was so good, like all the reviews. Check out Rita if you haven't already, she is leaving on Sunday.

My concern is I have a gf too, that we occasionally get intimate, and if I pass on anything to her? I use cover all the time and no dfk at AMPs, any more precautions to take care?

How you folks handle that?[/QUOTE]GF? Shit some of us are married with A LOT more to lose. Covered everything. BBBJ- no thanks. Would love nothing more but no can do. Even had a couple chicks scoff and seem offended ("I'm not suckin on rubber") Fine don't care keep your mouth away from it then. Its super hard to resist but got to think with your brain and take no chances. Actually I mostly do HJ spots now because I'm not down with the risks as much anymore. I also really like the pampering experience of a good massage with happy ending.

[QUOTE=ColPucker;6245684]I think I misunderstood the question. The above are for just legit massage.[/QUOTE]A couple things to put here. First, when it's said "Sakura is just for legit massage" are you guys still expecting a HE or are we talking truly legit in every way?

Also, is there a customary tip scale for services rendered? I've never gone for a massage at a studio or anything so not sure what's appropriate. In the past I went independent so their rates were typically all I paid.

As for my activities! I went to Sakura because it sounded like the best place for a legit massage. I didn't request anyone, and I got a great massage. On the flip it got a little weird because she started asking if I had been to a massage before and how much I would tip. I legit only had 40, and she asked if I could do 60, which I couldn't so she stroked me a little and stopped saying it was too dangerous because "this store is for massage". Maybe it was a play to up my tip once she gave me a little preview, didn't work. I just said okay.

So, in the end, if anyone wants to take me under their wings as I navigate this world, would appreciate it. I'm sure some if not all of this has been covered somewhere in this thread, but hoping someone can help!

[QUOTE=ColPucker;6245684]I think I misunderstood the question. The above are for just legit massage.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, I went to get a legit massage and I was pleased with it. A few questions for everyone since I'm still new to this. 1: When you guys say legit massage place, or specifically even, Sakura, are you guys still expecting a HE? Or legit massage meaning legit 100%? I ask because when I visited Sakura today (I didn't request anyone specifically) I got a great massage, but on the flip, it got a little weird. As she started on my legs, she kept asking if I had gotten a massage before and what I would tip her before any extra. I only had. 4, she asked for. 6 with a card, I said no, just. 4 in cash. Anyways, she started stroking a little and then stops and covers me up, saying it's too dangerous and that Sakura is a real massage store, not that type of massage. I don't know if it was a ploy to get me to offer more now that she got me a little hard, but I just said "ok" and that was that.

Another question, what's the standard tip for a legit massage? For extra services? I'm completely clueless on this, and as much as I've been reading and going back to old posts, it's hard to really learn. Any chance someone wants to take me under their wings a little? My inbox is wide open LOL.

Thanks everyone!

[QUOTE=Kodak619;6266336]A couple things to put here. First, when it's said "Sakura is just for legit massage" are you guys still expecting a HE or are we talking truly legit in every way?

Also, is there a customary tip scale for services rendered? I've never gone for a massage at a studio or anything so not sure what's appropriate. In the past I went independent so their rates were typically all I paid.

As for my activities! I went to Sakura because it sounded like the best place for a legit massage. I didn't request anyone, and I got a great massage. On the flip it got a little weird because she started asking if I had been to a massage before and how much I would tip. I legit only had 40, and she asked if I could do 60, which I couldn't so she stroked me a little and stopped saying it was too dangerous because "this store is for massage". Maybe it was a play to up my tip once she gave me a little preview, didn't work. I just said okay.

So, in the end, if anyone wants to take me under their wings as I navigate this world, would appreciate it. I'm sure some if not all of this has been covered somewhere in this thread, but hoping someone can help![/QUOTE]Sakura is definitely a great place to pop the AMP cherry. I responded to your PM regarding my tipping recommendations. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Kodak619;6266336]A couple things to put here. First, when it's said "Sakura is just for legit massage" are you guys still expecting a HE or are we talking truly legit in every way?

Also, is there a customary tip scale for services rendered? I've never gone for a massage at a studio or anything so not sure what's appropriate. In the past I went independent so their rates were typically all I paid.

As for my activities! I went to Sakura because it sounded like the best place for a legit massage. I didn't request anyone, and I got a great massage. On the flip it got a little weird because she started asking if I had been to a massage before and how much I would tip. I legit only had 40, and she asked if I could do 60, which I couldn't so she stroked me a little and stopped saying it was too dangerous because "this store is for massage". Maybe it was a play to up my tip once she gave me a little preview, didn't work. I just said okay.

So, in the end, if anyone wants to take me under their wings as I navigate this world, would appreciate it. I'm sure some if not all of this has been covered somewhere in this thread, but hoping someone can help![/QUOTE]There is more info about Sakura if you hunt through this thread. But if you saw my post I indicated who to ask for for a good legit massage at Sakura. YMMV if you just walk in and take a random person.

[QUOTE=Kodak619;6266529]Thanks for the advice, I went to get a legit massage and I was pleased with it. A few questions for everyone since I'm still new to this.[/QUOTE]This is just my 2 cents and what's worked for me.

When I hear or think of Legit massage I'm considering one at a chiropractor's office or even at Massage Envy. Legit at an AMP is where the shop is mainly doing therapeutic massages with maybe some glazing and you'll leave with blue balls. I say mainly because there's at least 1 or 2 girls out of the 5 working at that AMP is offering HE to their regulars and the others are mostly giving therapeutic massages with some intentional teasing. Places like Angel Massage in Mira Mesa and Sakura is a good example of mainly legit massages. They are great and a lot cheaper than going to Massage Envy and no membership is needed.

Tips: back 10 plus years ago when nonFS AMPs charged $40 hour for a massage it was simple. When a girl did HEs, it was $40 to the house and $40 tips and everyone was happy. For me if I liked the girls and know I would see them again I would tip $50 or $60 dollars for a HE massage. This was also pre COVID and the $40/$40 was acceptable almost at any nonFS AMPs for a massage and HE. Post COVID and prices are now at $60/ hour at nonFS spas, I generally tip $40 for an ONLY legit massage. Massage with HE, I will tip the same as the HF so $60/$60. Again if I like the girls or if they are playful, and hint that more maybe available beyond a HE at subsequent visits then I might tip $70 at a first visit. Then usually at a 2nd visit menu might open and more is allowed, lots of mutual touch, clothes come off, then my tip can be $80 on up. If the girls are hot and I truly like them and will see them regularly I'll tip $100 and that has been a standard and I am getting full access without any discussions of tip on all subsequent visits. These are ones I call UTRs. Again with these girls there are trusts, comfort and chemistry that has been developed and may require lots of repeat visits.

Testing the waters to see if more is offered. At a nonFS spa if the masseuse is standing so far that she's out of your arms reach most likely you are only going to get a legit massage. If the girl's body is brushing up on your hands, arms and near your reach then you can brush on her legs, arms, etc to see if deck you once. LOL. If she does not and starts more teasing, etc then you'll get at least a HE at the end. Most girls might ask if you want something special, meaning HE or mutual touch, top off, etc..and she might tell you how much tip she wants or ask how much tip you will give her. If she's hot and the amount is reasonable I might accept it if I want to see her again. If the girl is just average than I might counter her $100 request to $70 etc if I know I'm not seeing her again.

FS spas is very different. Tips will generally start at $140 -$160 for 30 minutes session. $140 is probably CBJ, limited/rushed service. Tip as at least $160 for a better experience. $180-$200 plus for an hour session.

Again this is my 2 cents and what’s worked for me. Good luck!

[QUOTE=ColPucker;6266696]There is more info about Sakura if you hunt through this thread. But if you saw my post I indicated who to ask for for a good legit massage at Sakura. YMMV if you just walk in and take a random person.[/QUOTE]Yep, I did see your post and it helped guide me to Sakura. Didn't want to request anyone specifically in case I didn't handle the tipping right, which I don't think I did. I ultimately left there happy with getting a good massage, and albeit no HE, I left happy because I went for a massage first. Now to explore where to get just a little bit more, but still maintaining a good massage! Thanks!

First up, welcome to the club. It's addictive and fun to swim in these waters. And also at times frustrating and even a little risky, depending on the type of activity you want to indulge in. I appreciate the fact that you offered some details of your visit, rather than just ask for help without any real contribution. I'd suggest doing a search for nonfs here on the board and see the names and places that come up. And RChang's recent post contains a pretty good guide how to act and what to tip. My current nonfs favorite places include Z's, Kiss, Harmony and Crystal.

[QUOTE=Kodak619;6266336]A couple things to put here. First, when it's said "Sakura is just for legit massage" are you guys still expecting a HE or are we talking truly legit in every way?

Also, is there a customary tip scale for services rendered? I've never gone for a massage at a studio or anything so not sure what's appropriate. In the past I went independent so their rates were typically all I paid.

As for my activities! I went to Sakura because it sounded like the best place for a legit massage. I didn't request anyone, and I got a great massage. On the flip it got a little weird because she started asking if I had been to a massage before and how much I would tip. I legit only had 40, and she asked if I could do 60, which I couldn't so she stroked me a little and stopped saying it was too dangerous because "this store is for massage". Maybe it was a play to up my tip once she gave me a little preview, didn't work. I just said okay.

So, in the end, if anyone wants to take me under their wings as I navigate this world, would appreciate it. I'm sure some if not all of this has been covered somewhere in this thread, but hoping someone can help![/QUOTE]

Was in the area and had some time to kill before heading home and remembered RDKing mentioning about this massage place. Had a few knots I wanted kinked out and wanted that HE as well of course! Been a while since I've been to a non-FS place and RDKing always has the best recommendations! LOL.

Called ahead to see if Jenny was available and they said no, but new girl available and to come check her out. Got to the place and this cute 30 year old lady wear a dark blue fitted jean dress welcomes me in. She was the only one working that night as well. Paid the HF for hhr and got in the room towards the back with the bars on the wall so they can walk on your back which I was hoping for since she only looked like she weight about 120 and 5'1.

Got undressed and laid on the bed. She came in after and she started the massage on my back working on my kinks which she did get out. She even got to walk on my back and cracked my back which felt good. We were conversating during the massage as her English was not bad. We were joking around and had a few laughs but no teasing what so ever which I was ok with since I was only expecting a massage and possible HE. Plus I was having fun just chatting with her and having good chemistry was key.

After the back massage, she did the hot towel wipe down but no teasing like RDKing had. Prob because I'm not as attractive as he is LOL haha jk. But she told me to flip and sat beside me and started massaging my chest and she was smiling and started moving the towel that was covering junior and started grazing it and I was like oh ok looks like I'll have my happy ending after all! So after a few grazing she started stroking junior and looked at me smiling to make if it was ok. I responded back by feeling her B size boobs over her dress. She didn't push away so I kept doing it. She then got up and get the oil and sat next to me again but with her back against me and started to continue stroking junior slowly which felt great. She then told me to unzip her dress and I was like oh damn ok. So dress comes off and everything else revealing her nice spinner body. She then faced me and let me suck on her nice tits as she was stroking on junior. Things are goin great! I then move my hand lower and feel her kitty which was already wet. She didn't push back with me playing with kitty as well.

Things got heated and chemistry was great. Won't go into much detail since she said she doesn't want her boss to know about it which I'm not sure if this is true but I'll respect her being UTR.

Got my release and felt great. Now as RDKing always mentioning don't be expecting the same service when you go there. Always YMMV and the chemistry you get. I wasn't expecting anything but a massage and HE but I guess we had good chemistry she felt comfortable with me.

Thanks again RDKing for the recommendation on your finds! You must me good at finding Easter eggs when you were young huh? Because you always find these places where you never expect a massage place to be at! LOL.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6266746]This is just my 2 cents and what's worked for me.

When I hear or think of Legit massage I'm considering one at a chiropractor's office or even at Massage Envy. Legit at an AMP is where the shop is mainly doing therapeutic massages with maybe some glazing and you'll leave with blue balls. I say mainly because there's at least 1 or 2 girls out of the 5 working at that AMP is offering HE to their regulars and the others are mostly giving therapeutic massages with some intentional teasing. Places like Angel Massage in Mira Mesa and Sakura is a good example of mainly legit massages. They are great and a lot cheaper than going to Massage Envy and no membership is needed.

Tips: back 10 plus years ago when nonFS AMPs charged $40 hour for a massage it was simple. When a girl did HEs, it was $40 to the house and $40 tips and everyone was happy. For me if I liked the girls and know I would see them again I would tip $50 or $60 dollars for a HE massage. This was also pre COVID and the $40/$40 was acceptable almost at any nonFS AMPs for a massage and HE. Post COVID and prices are now at $60/ hour at nonFS spas, I generally tip $40 for an ONLY legit massage. Massage with HE, I will tip the same as the HF so $60/$60. Again if I like the girls or if they are playful, and hint that more maybe available beyond a HE at subsequent visits then I might tip $70 at a first visit. Then usually at a 2nd visit menu might open and more is allowed, lots of mutual touch, clothes come off, then my tip can be $80 on up. If the girls are hot and I truly like them and will see them regularly I'll tip $100 and that has been a standard and I am getting full access without any discussions of tip on all subsequent visits. These are ones I call UTRs. Again with these girls there are trusts, comfort and chemistry that has been developed and may require lots of repeat visits.

Testing the waters to see if more is offered. At a nonFS spa if the masseuse is standing so far that she's out of your arms reach most likely you are only going to get a legit massage. If the girl's body is brushing up on your hands, arms and near your reach then you can brush on her legs, arms, etc to see if deck you once. LOL. If she does not and starts more teasing, etc then you'll get at least a HE at the end. Most girls might ask if you want something special, meaning HE or mutual touch, top off, etc..and she might tell you how much tip she wants or ask how much tip you will give her. If she's hot and the amount is reasonable I might accept it if I want to see her again. If the girl is just average than I might counter her $100 request to $70 etc if I know I'm not seeing her again.

FS spas is very different. Tips will generally start at $140 -$160 for 30 minutes session. $140 is probably CBJ, limited/rushed service. Tip as at least $160 for a better experience. $180-$200 plus for an hour session.

Again this is my 2 cents and whats worked for me. Good luck![/QUOTE]I will second RCDK's comments. Especially " If the girl's body is brushing up on your hands, arms and near your reach then you can brush on her legs, arms, etc to see if deck you once. LOL. ".

If I do like them and the massage, I will pretend to have a muscle spasm and brush or touch their leg if it's near me to give them a sort of hint I'm looking for more. The other thing that has worked for me, network with others and get referrals. Tell them who sent you and the usually open up the circle of trust.

[QUOTE=DeeeezNutss;6266939]Was in the area and had some time to kill before heading home and remembered RDKing mentioning about this massage place. Had a few knots I wanted kinked out and wanted that HE as well of course! Been a while since I've been to a non-FS place and RDKing always has the best recommendations! LOL.

Called ahead to see if Jenny was available and they said no, but new girl available and to come check her out. Got to the place and this cute 30 year old lady wear a dark blue fitted jean dress welcomes me in. She was the only one working that night as well. Paid the HF for hhr and got in the room towards the back with the bars on the wall so they can walk on your back which I was hoping for since she only looked like she weight about 120 and 5'1.

Got undressed and laid on the bed. She came in after and she started the massage on my back working on my kinks which she did get out. She even got to walk on my back and cracked my back which felt good. We were conversating during the massage as her English was not bad. We were joking around and had a few laughs but no teasing what so ever which I was ok with since I was only expecting a massage and possible HE. Plus I was having fun just chatting with her and having good chemistry was key..[/QUOTE]LOL. I'm glad you had a great time. Man if your masseuse wasn't Jenny or Jessica (I know she off until next week) and you thought she was cute and only in her 30's I might have to make another trip to try this gem. You have to go see Jenny. She is hot and model like. Her massage wasn't as great as Jessica but I was admiring other things. Wink, wink. Like her beautiful face. LOL.

This is probably the new hot spot with beautiful ladies. I hope the owner keeps bringing more of them.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6266746]This is just my 2 cents and what's worked for me.

When I hear or think of Legit massage I'm considering one at a chiropractor's office or even at Massage Envy. Legit at an AMP is where the shop is mainly doing therapeutic massages with maybe some glazing and you'll leave with blue balls. I say mainly because there's at least 1 or 2 girls out of the 5 working at that AMP is offering HE to their regulars and the others are mostly giving therapeutic massages with some intentional teasing. Places like Angel Massage in Mira Mesa and Sakura is a good example of mainly legit massages. They are great and a lot cheaper than going to Massage Envy and no membership is needed.

Tips: back 10 plus years ago when nonFS AMPs charged $40 hour for a massage it was simple. When a girl did HEs, it was $40 to the house and $40 tips and everyone was happy. For me if I liked the girls and know I would see them again I would tip $50 or $60 dollars for a HE massage. This was also pre COVID and the $40/$40 was acceptable almost at any nonFS AMPs for a massage and HE. Post COVID and prices are now at $60/ hour at nonFS spas, I generally tip $40 for an ONLY legit massage. Massage with HE, I will tip the same as the HF so $60/$60. Again if I like the girls or if they are playful, and hint that more maybe available beyond a HE at subsequent visits then I might tip $70 at a first visit. Then usually at a 2nd visit menu might open and more is allowed, lots of mutual touch, clothes come off, then my tip can be $80 on up. If the girls are hot and I truly like them and will see them regularly I'll tip $100 and that has been a standard and I am getting full access without any discussions of tip on all subsequent visits. These are ones I call UTRs. Again with these girls there are trusts, comfort and chemistry that has been developed and may require lots of repeat visits.[/QUOTE]Oh and probably the most important thing. Do not be jerks and make demands for shit. Be a gentleman, have good hygiene and respect the girls' boundaries. If she likes you the extras will happen. If you don't get extras, just move on. Good tips are great and the ladies will appreciate it but they prefer gentlemen more than an extra $20.

Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

Please feel free to PM me.

Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.

[QUOTE=HKPunter99;6266992]Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

Please feel free to PM me.

Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.[/QUOTE]La jolla can be a ***** to get out way more than downtown.

Downtown has hella homeless camping on the streets.

If I had to pick from either of the two it'd be gaslamp granted you can park in the garage which I assume they have.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6266965]Oh and probably the most important thing. Do not be jerks and make demands for shit. Be a gentleman, have good hygiene and respect the girls' boundaries. If she likes you the extras will happen. If you don't get extras, just move on. Good tips are great and the ladies will appreciate it but they prefer gentlemen more than an extra $20.[/QUOTE]Just reiterating that's a good point to make, some guys get so desperate over time and money that they lose track that this is meant to be something that you enjoy.

Just try to be in the moment and enjoy it while it's happening.

[QUOTE=HKPunter99;6266992]Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

Please feel free to PM me.

Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.[/QUOTE]You will find so many choices and flavors in Kearny Mesa which is about a mile from the Marriot, do your research and make appointments.

[QUOTE=Kodak619;6266870]Yep, I did see your post and it helped guide me to Sakura. Didn't want to request anyone specifically in case I didn't handle the tipping right, which I don't think I did. I ultimately left there happy with getting a good massage, and albeit no HE, I left happy because I went for a massage first. Now to explore where to get just a little bit more, but still maintaining a good massage! Thanks![/QUOTE]Okay, well it sounds like you got a good massage out of it. I usually just tip about $25 for a good legit massage, and I've never had any complaints. (I do give more to the one girl I see regularly). It is doubtful you'll even get asked about the tip if getting a totally legit massage, although the girl's attitude and effort may decline if you repeat with her after giving a poor tip.

I am somewhat curious who you had. In my experience the gals at Sakura that do HE do a so-so massage at best.

[QUOTE=RolfTorren;6266882]First up, welcome to the club. It's addictive and fun to swim in these waters. And also at times frustrating and even a little risky, depending on the type of activity you want to indulge in. I appreciate the fact that you offered some details of your visit, rather than just ask for help without any real contribution. I'd suggest doing a search for nonfs here on the board and see the names and places that come up. And RChang's recent post contains a pretty good guide how to act and what to tip. My current nonfs favorite places include Z's, Kiss, Harmony and Crystal.[/QUOTE]I also recommend Z Massage and Harmony. I have not been to Kiss or Crystal; will definitely add them to my window shopping list. Thanks Rolf!

Went to 108 today. Despite the empty-ish parking lot, I was surprised that it was busy on this Christmas eve morning. A lot of in and out traffic. You fiends are unholy.

Had Miki / Micky / Micki. She is petite with a great body and has a very cute face, which I like. Probably late 20's, very youthful, to the untrained eye she looks early 20's. Her natural C cup knockers are incredible. Literally quite the handful. Haven't had so much fun with big naturals like that in a while.

Instead of the bubbly persona like most, she has a cool demeanor which is a nice change in my opinion.

Quick wipe down on the table, then DFK, and probably one of the best sloppy BBBJ I had at 108. Covered FS and finished CIM.

Overall I highly recommend Miki. Pretty face, great rack, good service.

On my way out I saw Monica the MMS / manager for the first time. She's hot. Also saw Gia. Wow she is gorgeous! I've had her and posted a review here, but the make up she had today was 10/10, she was a glowing beauty.

What's the best nonfs option these days, Hans? Or the others mentioned below? It's nice to see a decent number of options for a good massage plus shake!

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6267783]I also recommend Z Massage and Harmony. I have not been to Kiss or Crystal; will definitely add them to my window shopping list. Thanks Rolf![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uboatct;6268147]What's the best nonfs option these days, Hans? Or the others mentioned below? It's nice to see a decent number of options for a good massage plus shake![/QUOTE]I've only been to Hans twice and had 2 great experiences. I definitely will be going back because the girls are young and give great massage.

Others I like are MBC, Harmony, Ocean Gold, Golden A, Paradise, Z Massage, Massage Oasis (forgot new name).

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6268230]I've only been to Hans twice and had 2 great experiences. I definitely will be going back because the girls are young and give great massage.

Others I like are MBC, Harmony, Ocean Gold, Golden A, Paradise, Z Massage, Massage Oasis (forgot new name).[/QUOTE]Who do you guys recommend at Harmony and Z's, and why?

I had fully intended to not go to full-service place, and just get a good long massage and a slow, sensual hand job. But unfortunately, I went to two different places that were booked up for quite a while. You horny bastard clearly have no decency, cock blocking me on Christmas Eve. Shame on you.

So, with two strikes against me, I wandered over to 108 to see what kind of joy the holiday spirit would bring me.

When I walked in and I was greeted by Rita and Monica (the manager), Rita was enthusiastic about wanting to drag me into the room after a few minutes of giving me a warm close Hug. I asked Monica to come join us, but she declined because she was the manager now I promise next time when she's working, she would join in on the fun.

In the room I was just finished getting undressed when Rita came back in with supplies and proceeded to give me a hug and a kiss and stare deeply into my eyes. I'm sure personal chemistry had a lot to do with it (it just felt like we click together) and your mileage will vary, but she was really aggressive (in a good way) about wanting to fuck me.

While still standing in the room while she was kissing me, she pulled her top down, exposing your beautiful boobs, perfectly natural in a lovely shake. I wouldn't say she had the largest nipples, but they were definitely perfectly proportion to her perfectly shaped boobs. She's a little sensitive about her nipples being played with, but she enjoys a good firm grabbing so from time to time I really enjoyed giving them a firm squeeze. I ran my hands down her body, which is toned and firm, gave her a few gentle kisses on her ass when she had me life face down on the table and started running her hands over my body. I was enjoying the feeling of her hands gliding over my muscles. And then she moved lower down my back she was gently kissing my inner thighs, and I arch my back up and she started slowly and gently licking my balls. She was alternating between sucking and licking, it all felt good. At this moment she had me turn over and proceeded to slowly lick my shower before finally taking my whole cock in her mouth then the rhythm and the sucking motion that she was putting up was just fucking great. She gives an excellent BJ definitely knows how to suck a cock. I had her climb up on the table so that I could lick her beautiful pussy while I was still getting my cock licked. So smooth and clean. She has one of the more beautiful little pussies I've seen in a while. A couple of times, I was worried I was going to shoot my load while she was sucking on me, so I stood up and laid her down on the table while I got on my knees, and proceeded to lick her pussy some more. She was very sensitive and just needed the lightest of licking and sucking to make her squirm. She had to tell me a few times to go more gentle but once I got the hang of it, I felt like I wanted to just left on that beautiful pussy forever. Very like licking really seems to be what kids are going.

But now I really wanted to be inside of her, so she quickly suited me up, and while she was laying across the table, I slowly went and standing missionary. She is so firm and tight It took so slow, gentle strokes as I was working its way in but once we got the rhythm, she really started working with me and driving each other into a frenzy. We change positions a few times, but we were getting so hot. She was running her face over my sweaty chest and then grinding her crotch hard into my thrusts, it was wild.

Finished missionary style laying on the table and she's slowly kept pushing into my cock even after I came, I was still hard enough for her to grind be a little longer. Dripping in sweat, we just kind of lingered, and each others arms holding her close kissing, and just feeling each other's presence.

Definitely a good session and I look forward to repeating it with her again.

I'm assuming across from a Q building and a charging station?

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6265926]Once a month I will go window shopping and try a new AMP especially when I'm in a new area. I stumbled upon one on Pacific Heights Road in Mira Mesa, in a strip mall where there is also a SDCCU bank. The sign say Holistic Acupuncture but they have a flashing massage sign. I go in and was greeted by Jessica, a 30 something cutie with long black hair. I like her look and she was friendly and welcoming so I stayed. It's $70/ hour, slightly higher than other nonFS spas but I like younger beauty over GILFs and will gladly pay the extra $10. I also like that they have a 45 minute option for $60; great when I'm on a lunch break. Jessica took me to the furthest room in the back with a bed for Thai style massage. Jessica gave an amazing medium to deep tissue massage and got out all the kinks. There was no teasing during the 30 minutes massage. After a warm towel wipe down the tease started with her rubbing my inner thighs and as soon as I spread eagle she was not shy with grabbing junior and the boys. When she saw I was doing push ups with junior (LOL) she asked me to flip over. Junior was at full attention and Jessica had a huge smile on her face. Her English was decent and she asked if junior wanted to play. Of course I said yes. Jessica has a banging body, one you would find at a FS spa. She grabs my hands and placed it on her body. I won't go into all the details of activities because these girls do want activities discussed, but she eventually got in her birthday suit. Great eye contact, nice and sensual release. YMMY, but don't think $40 tip will be enough for what I received. It was totally worth it! Jessica told me she's the oldest one at the shop with usually 3 girls working. They rotate girls often so call if you want to see a particular girl.

Because she said she was the oldest and the other girl working with her is more beautiful, I went back and saw Jenny. Jenny is one you can see in any of the ads on RubMD. She is beautiful with red highlights. I've been going to AMPs for 10 plus years and will say that Jenny is probably in my top 5 most beautiful at a nonFS AMP. She is probably number 3 in my current rotation in terms of beauty. Sorry I can't share the other 2 because they are UTRs. Again Jenny does not work there every day so call ahead.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ADwightSchrute;6268495]I'm assuming across from a Q building and a charging station?[/QUOTE]I'm not familiar with the area and stumbled upon it while running errands in the area. Goggle SDCCU bank Pacific Heights and it's in the same strip mall.

[QUOTE=DragonBorn69;6268393]Who do you guys recommend at Harmony and Z's, and why?[/QUOTE]There has been many reports on Z's and generally people are happy with Anna. She probably in her 50's, but has a body of a 30 something and gives an excellent massage.

You're not going to find much reviews for Harmony because the girls do not want to be reviewed. Also girls rotate often at this shop except for the manger and maybe one other girl. I was seeing Ivy and Mia there and they have since moved on elsewhere. Also, if you go in and ask for a masseuse by name and you are not a familiar face you will most likely be given another girl, or your ending may not be what others are getting if you get the girl. You will however get a good massage. When going to a non FS spa, your first expectation is t get a good massage. If you want extras, or FS experiences then you will be disappointed. To get services above a great massage and possible HE, you'll need to develop trust, the girls need to feel comfortable with you and there need to be some chemistry at non FS spas.

I had to try somewhere I hadn't been before and decided to try this place. It was mentioned on here, not in a good way, but I still went anyway. One girl was working and I can't remember her name. She was hot, but you couldn't tell until she was naked. Nice tight body, large c cups with large nipples, nice ass that had a great shape. She was hot, but her performance was not very good. She wouldn't kiss, ok no problem. But she wouldn't let me touch her pussy at all and no daty. Just a quick covered BJ and then cfs. Best part was doggy, that ass was really nice and I enjoyed pounding her from behind. But overall I wouldn't go back, not worth it at all. As mentioned from the earlier post, she was busy watching the security cameras the whole time and two dudes came in the short time I was there. Paid for 30 min and was out in 20 min. Once I figured out that her performance was not going to be very good, I decided just to pound her hard, nut and leave. I would avoid this place unless you want bad service and multiple interruptions. But you never know you might have a better experience than me. Place has like 200 reviews on rub maps, which is weird because it hasn't been around that long.

Wow, Anna's in her 50's? She has really looked after herself.

Just to chime in on enjoying a nonfs AMP experience, here's my take. I do research here, looking for "nonfs" with the search tool. Work out some of the reputable places and then pay a visit. Convoy area is a good place to start, but Mission Gorge also has options. The cluster of AMPs along Convoy allows you to hit up a few places and test the waters. If they are booked up or put you off, just move on to another choice. I always go in to a new place with no expectations, except that I'm going to get a massage. These days the HF is not a bad investment for an hour of body work is nothing else. At a new place I always let the masseuse lead the way. Be clean, polite and friendly. You'll be amazed how that will pay off either on the first visit or. Subsequent ones. If she likes you, she'll send some signals. Tell her the massage feels great. Smile a bit as she touches you. In other words just be cool and mellow. Having no, or low expectations means that whatever. Happens, you'll hopefully feel relaxed and rejuvenated at the end of the experience. Repetition is also helpful in building a rapport based on trust. Sometimes I'll ask them if they are on WeChat, and we exchange contact information. It's been fun to share holiday greetings that way over past few days. Finally tip accordingly. That's a bit of a judgement call. I don't want to be cheap, but on the other hand I don't want to add to the inflationary cycle.

Finally thanks to all you guys who've shared your favorite places, as well as when you TOFTT.

Happy Holidays to all.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6268673]There has been many reports on Z's and generally people are happy with Anna. She probably in her 50's, but has a body of a 30 something and gives an excellent massage.

You're not going to find much reviews for Harmony because the girls do not want to be reviewed. Also girls rotate often at this shop except for the manger and maybe one other girl. I was seeing Ivy and Mia there and they have since moved on elsewhere. Also, if you go in and ask for a masseuse by name and you are not a familiar face you will most likely be given another girl, or your ending may not be what others are getting if you get the girl. You will however get a good massage. When going to a non FS spa, your first expectation is t get a good massage. If you want extras, or FS experiences then you will be disappointed. To get services above a great massage and possible HE, you'll need to develop trust, the girls need to feel comfortable with you and there need to be some chemistry at non FS spas.[/QUOTE]

Had a session with Mina at Flanders this Christmas morning. This is not the Mina from VIP / NLBC. This Mina is usually at Super Spa in Convoy but today she was at Flanders in Sorrento Valley.

Overall, it was decent. Cute face, actually young. Probably mid 20's, natural Bs, and a banging figure. But her service was passive and unenthusiastic. Light kissing, BBBJ, covered FS.

Above average looks and body, below average service.

Honestly bummed out that a nice 80 degree Christmas day was derailed by a subpar experience.

[QUOTE=SdJim;6268867]I had to try somewhere I hadn't been before and decided to try this place. It was mentioned on here, not in a good way, but I still went anyway. One girl was working and I can't remember her name. She was hot, but you couldn't tell until she was naked. Nice tight body, large c cups with large nipples, nice ass that had a great shape. She was hot, but her performance was not very good. She wouldn't kiss, ok no problem. But she wouldn't let me touch her pussy at all and no daty. Just a quick covered BJ and then cfs. Best part was doggy, that ass was really nice and I enjoyed pounding her from behind. But overall I wouldn't go back, not worth it at all. As mentioned from the earlier post, she was busy watching the security cameras the whole time and two dudes came in the short time I was there. Paid for 30 min and was out in 20 min. Once I figured out that her performance was not going to be very good, I decided just to pound her hard, nut and leave. I would avoid this place unless you want bad service and multiple interruptions. But you never know you might have a better experience than me. Place has like 200 reviews on rub maps, which is weird because it hasn't been around that long.[/QUOTE]From what I've seen, these spas are full of fake reviews on rub maps for san diego:

Massage one.

Blue sky spa.

Elf massage.

Spa bello.

And at least a few more.

I'm not saying all reviews for them are fake but if you pay close attention you will see similar usernames that post reviews to the same 5-6 places across california (san diego, santa ana, temecula, etc.) before they realize their mistake and make their profiles private.

I treat any review from a private profile as fake or shill. Sure there are some "established" members with private profiles there but I honestly don't trust them 100% either.

Be careful out there.

Merry Christmas, folks.

I kind of went a little crazy during the Christmas week and ended up on a six lady fucking tear. Lady #4 was a sexual beast, power player level, and instead of giving me a massage, we ended up having intense, passionate sex. I'm like, where did you come from? What you brought to the table was next level service that I only see from an elite few. That got my body prepared for Lady #5. Lady #5 is a well reviewed lady who is currently on the scene here in San Diego. Despite having such incredible pussy grip, she was so choking my chicken so unbelievably tight, she did make it hurt a bit, I still ended up having one of the longest lasting, epic DG sessions with her. So thank you Lady #4 for preparing me to have a long lasting session with Christmas Eve Morning girl.

Christmas rolls around, and I had maybe a little too much time on my hands. I am going for Lady #7. I contacted this one provider who has been on my to do list. I asked her if she was working or taking a break. She said she was working and gave me an address to a spa in West Covina. It's only a 90 minute drive north. So I ended up on the 15 making my way to her spa. I am just a half hour away when she drops me the message, no customers today, I went back home.

I'm like, huh? What do you want me to do? She then invited me to her place for dinner. I am thinking, thank you for your trust. I then asked for clarification, are we doing business and dinner or just dinner? She said, just dinner because they have a guest coming.

So I ended up going to the San Gabriel Valley to meet up with her. I saw the area, and I'm like, shit, you're right near the provider I had some personal drama with. Regarding that lady, she drove me absolutely nuts. Well reviewed lady on this forum, sexy spinner, and great cocksucker. I believe her San Diego career is done though. The silver lining was that she let me drive her nice car around town. Some of my coworkers were like, "Bro, what are you doing on the side?

Anyway, I go to the address and ring the door. This one lady friend, who I know, answers the door, and I see the lady I would like to fuck and there is a third roommate lady. It was interesting seeing this girl in house clothes and very minimal makeup. They have a delicious dinner prepared, and they graciously invite me to join them. They tell me they have a friend coming who is not aware of their line of work, so STFU about it. So I ended up having a normal Christmas dinner with these ladies. Yummy food and good company.

Business will have to wait some other time. Too many reviews I still need to write! Girl #7 will most likely be the new girl at 108 who is taking over Rita's spot.

I called Mimi on Christmas day and asked if they were open. Mimi said yes and I figured it would be very slow. Arrived around sunset and met the new girl at the front desk, Monica. She was looking hot AF. Asked to see a line up, Monica said 2 girls were busy and 3 were free. Someone 4 of them walked into the room. I'm guessing Gia was the only one busy as I saw her before leaving but was not part of the line up. I forgot most of the names except for Miki and Rita. Miki was looking the hotest and I had been with her during her last assignment, so I went with her.

At first she was all business with no teasing then she got comfortable after I reminded her of the last time we met. She mentioned she will be spending more time at 108 this time around.

Massage was pretty good. She used oil and mostly applied pressure with her shoulders. I know no one goes to these places for a massage but I actually enjoy the effort she puts in. Massage lasted about 15 minutes. She took her time and massage from shoulders to calves.

When she was done, she cleaned up the oil, asked me to flip and signaled with her hand for the donation. She excused herself to get some supplies.

When she came back, it's like she flipped the GFE switch on. Got on top of the bed and started kissing everywhere until she made her way to Jr and the boys. She proceeded to give me a very nice and slow BBBJ / HJ, very sloppy with a lot of suction. I asked her to get on top to 69 and she did with a smile on her face.

She stood behind my head and leaned forward, rubbed her tits on my face and let me sucked them before climbing on top of the bed. Once on top she gave me a very aggressive but enjoyable BBBJ. Any other time I would've busted on the spot but somehow I managed. She really like her kitty being eaten as she kept squeezing my head with her legs and moaning loud. I know she's not a FIV fan but I still tried, she just squeezed harder and pushed her kitty on my face.

After a few minutes she kept asking me to fuck her hard I had to be a gentleman and do as she said LOL. I joked around and asked her if she wanted hard or slow because she kept saying "fuck me hard" then she said "slow, slow, you big" LOL I told her "too late" and proceeded to rock the boat missionary. Her kitty feels very nice, it's not too tight or too lose, she squeezes just enough to make it feel good. She can actually take a good pounding, she even let me put her legs on my shoulders and go deep for a minute before saying "you too big. ".

We switched to DG and went balls deep, I rubbed her star fish with my thumb and I knew she was going to move my hand away but once she realized I wasn't trying to put my finder in she let me continue. A few minutes after, her legs must've gotten tired. She lied flat on her belly and spread her cheeks for me to put it in her kitty. She raised her butt just enough to get the right angle. She keep moaning very loud into the pillow I thought someone was going to knock on the door LOL.

When she couldn't take it anymore she told me "okay come in my mouth" I pretended I didn't hear and she said "you made me cum, now you cum in mouth. ".

I lied down on the table and she took off the cover, cleaned me up and went to town. Again, another aggressive but amazing BBBJ. She keep stroking me with her hand and spitting on, sucking hard as she was trying to make me cum fast. That didn't happen LOL she continued for a few minutes then started massaging the boys with her hand and sliding her finger in between my legs. I didn't want to hold it no more so I let it all out in her mouth. She kept sucking even after I came, my cum started dripping from the side of her mouth like in a porno. She said "oops" smiled and kept sucking more then got up and cleaned me up not before trying to kiss me with my cum all over her mouth. I pulled back and she laughed and said "taste your energy" I said "no thank you" and she kept laughing. I told her she was very nasty and she smiled LOL. She's definitely a little freak in a good way.

We cleaned up and dressed up. She told me a couple of times during our session they were having a Christmas party and I was welcome to join. I didn't make anything out of it but when she opened the door all the girls were in the lobby, well some of them were on the first room on the left side and Mimi had a table full of food. I felt bad not staying but felt kinda awkward. I go to 108 but don't really keep in touch with anyone working there. I saw Gia before leaving and she gave me a hug and kiss. Mimi was standing outside the door when we got out and she just smiled and gave me a hug. They kept insisting I stayed but I ended up leaving. Seems like everyone was having a good time. Felt kinda bad but oh well. I'm sure one of you is going to have a good story to tell.

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Wow wa weee waaa. I had a session with the new girl Anna today and she blew my wad. I would say she's in the same attractiveness level as Ivy who was here about a month or two ago. I would put her face as a 7. 5 and Ivy is a 8 to me. Ivy still a little bit more attractive to me though. She's about 5'3 with a slender body, looks and feels to have natural B size titties with large pink areolas. She's got a bit of a hairy snatch so if you're into that, she's your girl lmao. She's also got a tattoo on her lower stomach area.

She started off with a massage which was average at best, but then climbed on top giving me a tongue bath on my back. I then turned my head back so we could make out for a little bit. She then moved on and started fucking my ear with her tongue. The combination of her licking and ASMR sounds she was making directly into my ear was giving me a sensation overload that I haven't experienced before which was quite interesting. She then told me to flip over and she gave a really solid BBBJ. Her BBBJ is one of the better ones I've experience with DT and sensual licking. She wanted to 69, so I just opted to rub her clit while she was going down town on my dick and balls.

Fucking her was very PSE with tons of moaning and quite loud as well, while DFKing her was very GFE (passionate, sensual, tongue swirling), so she has the best of both worlds. She can take a pounding pretty well if you're very average like my pecker. I opted to finish with a HJ while making out with her since I was a bit tired today and could not finish in the bag like I wanted to.

She kept thanking and complimenting me a couple times throughout the session for being young and handsome which boosted my ego for most of the day lmao.

Overall she's a repeat for sure, but since there are 4 other girls that I haven't tried yet I'll try to see her again before she leaves.