"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=PPJones;5999724]Secret benefits DOES work, as I have one SB from there (first one I ever messaged). Been 4+yrs now!.[/QUOTE]Interesting to hear. My experience: I've joined secret Benefits (SB) about 8 times and reviewed it a few times. I always pay the minimum, now $59, which lets you open messaging with 10 women. I have an SB now and would only exchange her for someone significantly better. In my latest attempt with SB, this month, 8 of the women were fake. They message you like "Hi, I'd like to meet you", luring you into spending credits to see the message, and then you don't hear from them again, even though they log in frequently. This is a common complaint in reviews of SB on the USASG. Two women talked to me for awhile and seemed willing to meet. This girl Mystervixon seemed nice, set up a M&G but didn't show up.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/d4ce8943b3b85e45[/URL]

And this girl TaniaChanb wanted brief discrete early morning meet ups at a hotel. I declined. But she seemed real.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/aa2b8bc927beaece[/URL]

I've met a few others in person in years past. Because of all the fakes it's a small gamble but not a complete scam, maybe only 80% scam. But if you think about it, seeking is also inefficient (depends on your skill, too). I think it would be good to have competition for seeking, that's why I kept trying, I guess. A long time ago SD4 M was good.

I'm in the process of getting my SA profile responded. After a very bad experience with a Baby in NoVa, I over reacted permanently deleted my profile, instead of just deactivating it.

If you delete it it's gone. If you deactivate it you can just click a tab to reactive it. I have a new profile but haven't given them a pic they will accept yet. I can see Babies profiles but can't message them.

This one definitely says she's DTF.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2ab60ee8-fc34-4c91-8e3c-9650629cabcc?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC9mb3J1bS9zaG93dGhyZWFkLnBocD85NzQ2LXF1b3QtU3VnYXJiYWJpZXMtcXVvdC1xdW90LUFycmFuZ2VtZW50cy1xdW90LUFtYXRldXJzLW9yLU5vdA%3D%3D[/URL]

Anyone do her yet? Love to know what her allowance & menu is like? Post here or if you don't want to share you can PM me.

Thanks,

DF.

[QUOTE=Ntcuonghm1;5999629][URL]Seeking.com[/URL] keeps blocking me due to a prior terms violation, no matter what I tried. Do you all know of any other similar sites? Have you ever tried [URL]secretbenefits.com[/URL]? There are a lot of fake profiles on these sites these days, so I wanted to ask for your experience. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Ah hem! Interesting that you keep getting blocked on SA. Have you taken all of the recommended steps to set up a profile after initial ban? Point is that once SA decides you should be off their site, they don't want you back and they track the CC#s, names, pictures, IP Address, and MAC address of "offenders. " So if you use the exact same stuff over and over again, it is going to lead to the same result.

Staying on SA has gotten a lot more difficult than in the past. I seem to go only 2 or 3 messages back & forth with a girl before I go to texting on the GV layered on the burner phone. That way there is NO conversation that could be misinterpreted as P2 P.

I bet you could get back on SA if you worked at it and religiously followed all of the steps. Wish whatever Maven who keeps the "best of" thread would look through and collect all of the "how to" get back on SA posts so that it doesn't have to keep being hashed out here.

While some have had success on SB, I won't go there as it is a waste of time. WhatIsYourPrice is a mess too AND it is owned by the same company as SA.

I used a regular vanilla gift card last month and it worked fine, same type vanilla card this month and it doesn't work. Anyone know a good loadable card that works? Thanks.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5993437]Ok, so once again the debate. Will prepaid card work on SA? So I just purchased the SecureSpend card. This was the old One Vanilla. It looks exactly like the old one vanilla. I logged on to the Secure website and saw that the money was added on the card. I went to SA to use the prepaid and once I etnered the card number in the field and immediately a message appeard that said something to effect "although we do accept prepaid cards your acceptance may be low". Now, before anyone jumps down my throat I know that I just purchased it. I've heard that some times people have to wait a day before using it. So I am going to wait. Any advice from anyone who recently used a prepaid to sign up for SA I would love to chat with you. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5998768]I understand it has always been tough to get a fake profile on FB to use to suss out POTs / SBs pages. Because I have a SO I don't want to use my real profile to look up a MILF I am currently messaging w /, IK how FB works, if you visit someone's profile, there is a chance they get suggested to you as a friend, or vice-versa, and I definitely don't want that. IK my POTs real name because she is a newbie and is using her real phone #, which I found on PeopleLooker.

Anyway, I am giving it a go to set up a sugar profile on FB. IK all of my personal information / address I would use. I started the process, and almost immediately got an email message from FB that they were checking to see if I was real and that I had to send them a photo of me. I picked up something on the web, switched it around, and sent it to them, and now I am waiting for a response. Anyone else have a similar experience in the recent past. IK if you got a profile sometime ago and haven't done anything iffy, FB will leave you alone, but alas I don't have the luxury of time travel to set that up.[/QUOTE]There are sources out there where you can purchase pre-setup, seasoned social media accounts including FB. And they aren't that expensive either, maybe $10-$20 per account or less with volume. I believe they also include the pictures. You can visit Reddit to get reviews or comments on these sites.

I am lucky enough to have set up fake FB accounts a long time ago. I had two but I did lose one to the FB police for some reason, but I still have one that I use for POT research on girls from SA, from time to time. My remaining fake account has no pictures but still hasn't been kiboshed. But I don't use it that often, as I've never had much luck tracking POTs on FB or any social media. Most the time don't even try anymore. But then again, I'm a social media retard so probably not savvy enough to know how to really drill down to get this info.

Oddly enough I lost my other fake FB account because of pictures. I got a message from the FB police that it was suspended and I needed to upload some pics. I really didn't want to go to the trouble of harvesting some rando bloke's pix off the net and altering them, so used one of these fake social media account sellers to buy a package of pictures that was pretty close to how I would describe myself physically. It was a hassle because I can't use CC for payment, but luckily most these sites take ponzicoin er, bitcoin. But in the end, for some reason, that account got kiboshed anyways after several months. I woudl say it was because I had no friends, but my other account has no friends either. I would think if you have a FB account, and have no friends, then either you're really a loser, or it's a fake account.

[QUOTE=HarryMcHardon;6002012]There are sources out there where you can purchase pre-setup, seasoned social media accounts including FB. And they aren't that expensive either, maybe $10-$20 per account or less with volume. I believe they also include the pictures. You can visit Reddit to get reviews or comments on these sites.

I am lucky enough to have set up fake FB accounts a long time ago. I had two but I did lose one to the FB police for some reason, but I still have one that I use for POT research on girls from SA, from time to time. My remaining fake account has no pictures but still hasn't been kiboshed. But I don't use it that often, as I've never had much luck tracking POTs on FB or any social media. Most the time don't even try anymore. But then again, I'm a social media retard so probably not savvy enough to know how to really drill down to get this info.

Oddly enough I lost my other fake FB account because of pictures. I got a message from the FB police that it was suspended and I needed to upload some pics. I really didn't want to go to the trouble of harvesting some rando bloke's pix off the net and altering them, so used one of these fake social media account sellers to buy a package of pictures that was pretty close to how I would describe myself physically.[/QUOTE]I have a fake FB account I use for various hobby groups I belong to unrelated to anything sexual. I used it to view a SB's FB page that I was seeing regularly. At some point my page was suggested as a friend to her. She asked me about it and wanted to know why my name was different. I told her that it was my middle name and I set it up so nosey people searching for me wouldn't be wasting my time wanting to be friends. She was cool with that. However, once FB stopped allowing people to put their phone numbers on there, it was less useful searching for and verifying SB real identities.

Update, I bought a loadable vanilla card yesterday and it worked in less than an hour. Don't figure.

[QUOTE=RedBaron69;6001632]I used a regular vanilla gift card last month and it worked fine, same type vanilla card this month and it doesn't work. Anyone know a good loadable card that works? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Saw this one recently, better looking in person. She insisted on cover, but was a great lay. Awesome petite body.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9b5c08d3-8125-4498-bc26-16a5b0ba5284[/URL]

Not her first profile, I've seen her before. Fantastic body, tall skinny and great tits. Great in bed and it was all BBFS for me with a creampie finish.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/93b2265f-bf37-4b3c-b674-9b579eacc86d[/URL]

Another one that's been on and off seeking. I have seen her and can confirm that her bio is correct, she is VERY kinky and up for pretty much anything.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/86c1d26e-58ce-4266-98b7-7a676a3b54b9[/URL]#.

[QUOTE=RedBaron69;6002599]Update, I bought a loadable vanilla card yesterday and it worked in less than an hour. Don't figure.[/QUOTE]Did you also rush out and play the lottery? .

Maybe the anti sex trafficking and no prostitution campaign is hurting the business model and they now had to convince their payment processor to accept a wider variety of cards?

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;6002801]Another one that's been on and off seeking. I have seen her and can confirm that her bio is correct, she is VERY kinky and up for pretty much anything.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/86c1d26e-58ce-4266-98b7-7a676a3b54b9[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]She is also on WYP although hasn't replied to my offer yet.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6003077]Did you also rush out and play the lottery? .

Maybe the anti sex trafficking and no prostitution campaign is hurting the business model and they now had to convince their payment processor to accept a wider variety of cards?[/QUOTE]I couldn't get mine to work. I finally had to call customer support so they had to run my pre paid card. I couldn't get a hold of them for over a day I alwats kept getting voicemail! Too much work.

[QUOTE=Round3;6003699]She is also on WYP although hasn't replied to my offer yet.[/QUOTE]She countered with 250. Will keep you updated if it goes anywhere.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/bdc9fb64-ca15-44be-896a-8545bfa57de4[/URL]

Has anyone communicated with this young lady? Price definitely seems right.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;6004823][URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/bdc9fb64-ca15-44be-896a-8545bfa57de4[/URL]

Has anyone communicated with this young lady? Price definitely seems right.[/QUOTE]That's your inbox.

Let's try this again. I messed up on the link in the initial post. Anyone communicated with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6dcb046f-3782-4363-9fb9-58ad4ef0f6d6[/URL]

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;6004968]Let's try this again. I messed up on the link in the initial post. Anyone communicated with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6dcb046f-3782-4363-9fb9-58ad4ef0f6d6[/URL][/QUOTE]Profile is gone:

Probably one of our resident limp.

Waisted white knights told her she was being discussed here.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6003734]I couldn't get mine to work. I finally had to call customer support so they had to run my pre paid card. I couldn't get a hold of them for over a day I alwats kept getting voicemail! Too much work.[/QUOTE]Yeah, seems like the collective experience has been the fastest method is the old [B]ONE[/B]Vanilla card (not the regular "Vanilla" cards), now apparently called the SecureSpend card.

[QUOTE=Ronson1;5994965][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2ab60ee8-fc34-4c91-8e3c-9650629cabcc[/URL]

Does anyone have luck with this cutie? I'm about to do m&g sometime next week.[/QUOTE]I had been texting with Spice for about a week and had time to meet today. Texted and she promptly responded with no transportation or place to meet. She is dtf. She then says I can pick her up and bring her to my place but her cousin has to come. That she wouldn't be a problem or drive her to midlothian (way to far). No way cousin is roaming my house. I said hell no and find something else for cousin to do. She became upset and called me an entitled asshole. She wanted me to pick her up in the 1900 block of Richmond Hwy, terrible area. I didn't meet her but I'm thinking low rent addict until I hear otherwise.

I've been playing the long game, a campaign w / a smoking hot 40's divorced MILF. Definitely comes from privilege, IK all her personal info, her house is as nice as mine. Ex is a hi-powered local attorney. We finally met yesterday, had all the appropriate interactions, including a make-out session in my car. After she asks my allowance, I go with 12/ mo, 5 for the first. She says the 5 is fine, but why don't we get a nice resort hotel room when my SO is out of town to really celebrate the beginning of our arrangement. My spidey senses start to tingle. What do you think? Could she be a rinser? Or just a gold-digger who wants to rain my bank account and then cast me aside. She's TV quality. I admit to my vulnerability to her kind of face / bod. You always wonder why someone gets divorced. Perhaps I should call her ex from my burner and ask him, tell him I met him former wife on a dating site, and see what he says about her. Maybe he left b / c she was a total witch just there to suck his blood. Trying to save myself aggravation, I would hate to fall for it and then end up burned.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6005340]I've been playing the long game, a campaign w / a smoking hot 40's divorced MILF. Definitely comes from privilege, IK all her personal info, her house is as nice as mine. Ex is a hi-powered local attorney. We finally met yesterday, had all the appropriate interactions, including a make-out session in my car. After she asks my allowance, I go with 12/ mo, 5 for the first. She says the 5 is fine, but why don't we get a nice resort hotel room when my SO is out of town to really celebrate the beginning of our arrangement. My spidey senses start to tingle. What do you think? Could she be a rinser? Or just a gold-digger who wants to rain my bank account and then cast me aside. She's TV quality. I admit to my vulnerability to her kind of face / bod. You always wonder why someone gets divorced. Perhaps I should call her ex from my burner and ask him, tell him I met him former wife on a dating site, and see what he says about her. Maybe he left b / c she was a total witch just there to suck his blood. Trying to save myself aggravation, I would hate to fall for it and then end up burned.[/QUOTE]If you you have a SO stay clear of asking any Ex's anything.

[QUOTE=RedBaron69;6002599]Update, I bought a loadable vanilla card yesterday and it worked in less than an hour. Don't figure.[/QUOTE]Does seeking ask for cvv code when entering card info?

She's nice and friendly and likes to chat about everyday stuff, but has been on the site for 2 years and has never met anyone face-to-face, though she says she "plans to eventually meet people". Either she's keeps getting cold feet and can't get herself to take the plunge, or she's stringing people along.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3e9ae5bb-5db8-41a3-8ceb-639b720796e5[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1d73747a-39f6-4941-9d39-5d77be917528[/URL]

As previously reported is a scam attempt. However I do think it is the girl, not a guy, as she is prepared to do M&G at a restaurant. Always in need of funds, wants help for the M&G etc.

VERY sure you will never get her into a room with her pants down after parting with $100 and the cost of lunch!

SATraveler.

Hey fellow seniors. Who are some sugar baby to see for a first timer in Seeking worlds. Been in the game to know I don't want to mess things up (high ppm / allowance, etc). The market is fucked as it is. If you can, share some profiles and I will go and report back my experience. My only request is they are open to hosting due to SO but of course not a dealbreaker.

Feel free to PM if desired.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad697c29-99ed-4e6c-9dfb-2374aa160b38[/URL] -- open minded, but not open minded enough to have sex.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f434c05-3bb8-48ae-926d-978a82fee8e4[/URL] - total smoke show and sent some nice nudes, but then went dark.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5aad1b93-27b4-48ca-a418-e8f2fc32c987[/URL] -- now reports she is off the sugar market.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9702b2ec-9940-403f-9acd-6f6a0b0f567b[/URL] - killer bod, really into it, but some likely monkey and other related legal troubles land this one on the No Fly list.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6006907][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ad697c29-99ed-4e6c-9dfb-2374aa160b38[/URL] -- open minded, but not open minded enough to have sex.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f434c05-3bb8-48ae-926d-978a82fee8e4[/URL] - total smoke show and sent some nice nudes, but then went dark.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5aad1b93-27b4-48ca-a418-e8f2fc32c987[/URL] -- now reports she is off the sugar market.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9702b2ec-9940-403f-9acd-6f6a0b0f567b[/URL] - killer bod, really into it, but some likely monkey and other related legal troubles land this one on the No Fly list.[/QUOTE]I read another post that the third link does BBFS and CIP.

Hey guys, has anyone met with this one? I have been talking to her for a week now and we are supposed to meet tomorrow. She has sent two pics and seems legit, but never hurts to seek confirmation here. Thanks in advance!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8c9af421-150b-48ad-af5e-dabfedefcde9[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;6007309]I read another post that the third link does BBFS and CIP.[/QUOTE]But I only got the covered experience.

Also, after telling me she is out, both of her profiles were active last night, and not to deactivate.

I guess I can take the hint.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6005340]I've been playing the long game, a campaign w / a smoking hot 40's divorced MILF. Definitely comes from privilege, IK all her personal info, her house is as nice as mine. Ex is a hi-powered local attorney. We finally met yesterday, had all the appropriate interactions, including a make-out session in my car. After she asks my allowance, I go with 12/ mo, 5 for the first. She says the 5 is fine, but why don't we get a nice resort hotel room when my SO is out of town to really celebrate the beginning of our arrangement. My spidey senses start to tingle. What do you think? Could she be a rinser? Or just a gold-digger who wants to rain my bank account and then cast me aside. She's TV quality. I admit to my vulnerability to her kind of face / bod. You always wonder why someone gets divorced. Perhaps I should call her ex from my burner and ask him, tell him I met him former wife on a dating site, and see what he says about her. Maybe he left b / c she was a total witch just there to suck his blood. Trying to save myself aggravation, I would hate to fall for it and then end up burned.[/QUOTE]I don't know what a rinser is but what do you you realistically expect to gain by CALLING THE HIGH POWERED LAWYER EX HUSBAND of the woman you are seeking to enter into a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY with? Do you imagine for one second she won't hear about that call? Do you think the TV quality super hot MILF won't figure out it's probably you? How do you think that's going to effect your chances of moving forward?

And as for the question about her interest in your money. You are negotiating paying her for sex. YES, SHE WANTS AS MUCH OF YOUR MONEY AS SHE CAN GET.

I really think you must be trolling with this post. Jesus Christ Man.

[QUOTE=TennisStud90;6007938]Hey guys, has anyone met with this one? I have been talking to her for a week now and we are supposed to meet tomorrow. She has sent two pics and seems legit, but never hurts to seek confirmation here. Thanks in advance!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8c9af421-150b-48ad-af5e-dabfedefcde9[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, she is real. This is a new profile for her. Personally haven't met her but she's been reviewed here before. Can't remember her other screen names to search by. Let us know how it works out. Have been considering reaching out also.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;6008225]Yes, she is real. This is a new profile for her. Personally haven't met her but she's been reviewed here before. Can't remember her other screen names to search by. Let us know how it works out. Have been considering reaching out also.[/QUOTE]I like a woman who has several toys on her Wishlist! Good luck!

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;6008225]Yes, she is real. This is a new profile for her. Personally haven't met her but she's been reviewed here before. Can't remember her other screen names to search by. Let us know how it works out. Have been considering reaching out also.[/QUOTE]She must be reaching out to everyone as she just messaged me a howdy do and I viewed her yesterday.

[QUOTE=Round3;6008942]She must be reaching out to everyone as she just messaged me a howdy do and I viewed her yesterday.[/QUOTE]Sweet Jo blocked me after viewing my private pic. Guess over 60 is too old.

Ever try a BJ when you are stoned? I highly recommend it. In the right zone you are on edge and feel like you are cumming forever.

On this occasion I offered my ATF SB a challenge. She had 15 minutes to make junior squirt. If she did that, her fee for the tryst would double. If not, I would get a future freebie. Always up for something new, she enthusiastically went to work. What she didn't know is that I had whacked-off twice in the previous hour before seeing her and was pretty stoned, the last few tokes right beforehand. I wanted to make sure I would have this continuous rolling / edging orgasm without full completion, which is exactly what happened. She was a bit sad with this result but I offered her double or nothing for another 15 minutes, which was also readily accepted. After another 15 minutes of pure ecstasy, but no spray, she was cutely pouting and perplexed, because she had always been able to create a gusher before without too much effort. So, I offered a third challenge: keep sucking until there was a result and we would be even. OMFG! I know it was at least 30 minutes or more but it felt deliciously like hours. In the end, I had her give me a sloppy rim job while stroking and I finally erupted like Vesuvius all over her forehead and hair. She kept rimming and playing with me for what must have been an hour and I still felt like I was cumming! That was the best fucking feeling EVER!

Afterwards I needed to chill out for a few hours because I was in no shape to drive. But I could still feel the lingering effects of that earth-shaking and seemingly never-ending climax. Just touching myself lightly felt incredibly good, as if each touch was magnified 100 times.

I definitely want to repeat this experience again and again and again.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;6009330]Ever try a BJ when you are stoned? I highly recommend it. In the right zone you are on edge and feel like you are cumming forever.

On this occasion I offered my ATF SB a challenge. She had 15 minutes to make junior squirt. If she did that, her fee for the tryst would double. If not, I would get a future freebie. Always up for something new, she enthusiastically went to work. What she didn't know is that I had whacked-off twice in the previous hour before seeing her and was pretty stoned, the last few tokes right beforehand. I wanted to make sure I would have this continuous rolling / edging orgasm without full completion, which is exactly what happened. She was a bit sad with this result but I offered her double or nothing for another 15 minutes, which was also readily accepted. After another 15 minutes of pure ecstasy, but no spray, she was cutely pouting and perplexed, because she had always been able to create a gusher before without too much effort. So, I offered a third challenge: keep sucking until there was a result and we would be even. OMFG! I know it was at least 30 minutes or more but it felt deliciously like hours. In the end, I had her give me a sloppy rim job while stroking and I finally erupted like Vesuvius all over her forehead and hair. She kept rimming and playing with me for what must have been an hour and I still felt like I was cumming! That was the best fucking feeling EVER!

Afterwards I needed to chill out for a few hours because I was in no shape to drive. But I could still feel the lingering effects of that earth-shaking and seemingly never-ending climax. Just touching myself lightly felt incredibly good, as if each touch was magnified 100 times.

I definitely want to repeat this experience again and again and again.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link or is this an exclusive relationship you have with her?

Thanks,

RR.

[QUOTE=VAvet;5964271]Yes she's back from a short vacation. Gained a fair amount of weight and does not look very good frankly. And you always have to be careful, don't let her wander off with your money (eg "I got to give the cash to my friend real quick I'll be right back" LOL.[/QUOTE]Has anyone met up with her since she's been back. All my experiences were positive although I know that wasn't the case for everyone. I've tried to see her but communication has been a real challenge. Not concerned if she put on a few pounds, I like that. More interested if she is still freaky with no known limits.

Stay safe.

RR.

[QUOTE=RomanRich;6009523]Do you have a link or is this an exclusive relationship you have with her?

Thanks,

RR.[/QUOTE]I have not asked her to be exclusive. I see other women and she might see other men, for all I know. She has not asked me this question nor have I asked her. She can be scatter-brained and forgetful and has a bad habit of staying out of contact for long periods of time. Whether that is deliberate or just her nature I wouldn't know. I tolerate that because she is not my sole source of sexual fun and she is so fantastic when we do get together that I appreciate sporadic dates for what they are.

As for a "link:" I don't believe she has advertised on a sugar site. In any event, I didn't find her on a sugar site. I have explained at length in the past that I prefer to do my sugaring "in the wild" so to speak.

[QUOTE=Round3;6008942]She must be reaching out to everyone as she just messaged me a howdy do and I viewed her yesterday.[/QUOTE]She wanted to meet and so I suggested an initial meet and greet for coffee or a drink and she said that would be $150 for that. I said just to talk. She said yes, so I said no. Good luck with her, she obviously values all her time.