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[QUOTE=LofterB;7003428]There is no justification, these girls need to get a job and I need another raise smh.[/QUOTE]Apparently it works for some. I had a few dates with Katie back in the indi days before she traveled the isles and I can say that she was one of the better times that I had, but no way would I fork over the new rate. She would have to make me see Jesus. But then I am on a budget getting close to retirement, maybe someone who has more disposable income than me may feel that it was a bargain. It takes all kinds.
If one looks at it like the biz that it is a repeat customer is more profitable then one or very infrequent shots. The key is finding that sweet spot rate with enough repeats to make it profitable. But many of these women are not business minded.
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[QUOTE=DrWho;7003596]Apparently it works for some. I had a few dates with Katie back in the indi days before she traveled the isles and I can say that she was one of the better times that I had, but no way would I fork over the new rate. She would have to make me see Jesus. But then I am on a budget getting close to retirement, maybe someone who has more disposable income than me may feel that it was a bargain. It takes all kinds.
If one looks at it like the biz that it is a repeat customer is more profitable then one or very infrequent shots. The key is finding that sweet spot rate with enough repeats to make it profitable. But many of these women are not business minded.[/QUOTE]I personally will hit 30 in a few months so my margin for risk is larger than yours and I still can't justify her new rates, I don't even like spending 200 for hhr unless I know for a fact a good time is guaranteed. But then again I've always been conservative with how I spend my money and been finessed to many times to just pay whatever they as. I'm sure theirs plenty of dudes who are okay spending what they do but unless they make 100 k after taxes or really close to it they're all suckers to me. Plus, if you read up on some of these sexworker subs on reddit most of these working women hate men in general and if you comment something they don't agree with watch how quick your downvoted and banned smh. If they could get paid without fucking they probably wouldn't even speak to their own fathers.
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[QUOTE=DrWho;7003596].If one looks at it like the biz that it is a repeat customer is more profitable then one or very infrequent shots. The key is finding that sweet spot rate with enough repeats to make it profitable. But many of these women are not business minded.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is very true and something almost all of these providers seem to not understand. The amount they were asking for before was still A LOT I have expressed before that most people don't even make 150-200 in a DAY, getting that much for 30 min is insane. I'd be willing to do almost anything within my personal orientation if a woman offered me 150 for 30 minutes LOL much less 200. That's not chump change, getting 150 for a hh even if at a hotel you could see 2 clients and be set for the day paying off the hotel and still having more left over than the average person makes in a day, not to mention if they have their own private place or only do outcall and dont have to worry about that kind of fee. Getting paid 20 an hour for an 8 hour day still only comes out to 160 and that's before taxes, getting 150-200 for 30 minutes untaxed is insane. Any provider who says they had to raise their donations because everything is getting more expensive and acts like they can't get by off of 150 for 30 minutes is full of it, its just greed and they see other girls doing it and getting away with it so they know they can too. These girls get BLOWN UP when they make posts, like hundreds of potential clients everyday, if you watch Chris Hansen show, they make fake accounts on skipthegames to catch guys seeking underage girls and they say they get on average 1000-3000 texts in a day off of one post. All these girls have to do is see 1-3 at 150 for hh and if they see 3 they are already making half or more of what the average wage person gets for a whole week, and if they have expensive candy habits then that's their problem tbh, but I'd still be willing to bet that even with a habit they would be fine asking for that much. 400 for an hour is just absolutely bananas LOL but there are still girls with reasonable asking rates and those are a lot smarter imo because as you stated they retain repeat customers. I'd have to save up and put mario coins for like 2-3 months if I wanted to comfortably see a girl asking 400 for an hour even once LOL.
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Don't see upseller. Agreed on 300 hour and she wanted 400 extra for FS after taking payment.
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[QUOTE=Pawgs;7004034]400 for an hour is just absolutely bananas LOL but there are still girls with reasonable asking rates and those are a lot smarter imo because as you stated they retain repeat customers. I'd have to save up and put mario coins for like 2-3 months if I wanted to comfortably see a girl asking 400 for an hour even once LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree, my usual budget is 300 max / hour including Uber. And if all goes well with no surprise bills that is every 2 weeks or so (got to plan for retirement and moving to Italy). I am older and had prostate cancer so I need an hour, and since special cookies help me achieve I do outcalls (don't want to drive with that) which is becoming rare. Even those who advertise outcall will ignore outcall requests if they are getting enough incalls.
But to be totally honest, that was until I encountered Cali. When she replied with her rate I politely declined, we then started text chatting some and I was so intrigued I decided to splurge just this one time, now I know when a date IS worth it. I have been hobbying since the inception of the indiboard (I was around member #10) so this wasn't my first rodeo. At first I figured that she was really good at working me, but when I met her I realized that even if so the date was worth it, she was amazing in all ways. If I were 35 years younger she would be in trouble LOL. I am adjusting my play intervals to be able to see her moving forward. Of course she is an incredible GFE which is what I lean towards. I realize this is just me, but Cali did help me understand why some would see a higher rate provider, that is IF they delivered. Everyone has their own view of a bargain.
Happy mongering.
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[QUOTE=Pawgs;7004034]Yes, this is very true and something almost all of these providers seem to not understand. The amount they were asking for before was still A LOT I have expressed before that most people don't even make 150-200 in a DAY, getting that much for 30 min is insane. I'd be willing to do almost anything within my personal orientation if a woman offered me 150 for 30 minutes LOL much less 200. That's not chump change, getting 150 for a hh even if at a hotel you could see 2 clients and be set for the day paying off the hotel and still having more left over than the average person makes in a day, not to mention if they have their own private place or only do outcall and dont have to worry about that kind of fee. Getting paid 20 an hour for an 8 hour day still only comes out to 160 and that's before taxes, getting 150-200 for 30 minutes untaxed is insane. Any provider who says they had to raise their donations because everything is getting more expensive and acts like they can't get by off of 150 for 30 minutes is full of it, its just greed and they see other girls doing it and getting away with it so they know they can too. These girls get BLOWN UP when they make posts, like hundreds of potential clients everyday, if you watch Chris Hansen show, they make fake accounts on skipthegames to catch guys seeking underage girls and they say they get on average 1000-3000 texts in a day off of one post. All these girls have to do is see 1-3 at 150 for hh and if they see 3 they are already making half or more of what the average wage person gets for a whole week, and if they have expensive candy habits then that's their problem tbh, but I'd still be willing to bet that even with a habit they would be fine asking for that much. 400 for an hour is just absolutely bananas LOL but there are still girls with reasonable asking rates and those are a lot smarter imo because as you stated they retain repeat customers. I'd have to save up and put mario coins for like 2-3 months if I wanted to comfortably see a girl asking 400 for an hour even once LOL.[/QUOTE]Preach, brotha.
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[QUOTE=CuboneFL;7003589]The picture is almost certainly BS, but that doesn't mean there isn't a super thin Asian on the other side of that phone.[/QUOTE]Interesting the links come from the superasian section. I had first found there ads in the Alligator section under Ft. Lauderdale and had Followed them for a while hoping to find some reviews on this site before jumping in. With Indi Board gone, my MO is preferably not see anyone new unless there has been a review from someone that looks to be reliable / posting history.
I must have been browsing the Super Asian section then went to my Following section to get the links and when you do that it will bring up the girls ad but with the superasian URL to it. Odd.
Here are more normal links.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/174811089[/URL]
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/ftlauderdale/174788370[/URL]
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Yes, the day's of $160 an hour from a young hottie from an agency like Adorables or even an indi from the boards are over. Just like the quality of girls you could get for that $160 for an hour. I thought that was a lot myself for a hobby but I was younger.
[URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20060310013031/http://www.adorablexxx.com/home.html[/URL]
I think $200 hhr and $300 hr is more realistic now on the low end.
[QUOTE=DrWho;7004381]I agree, my usual budget is 300 max / hour including Uber. And if all goes well with no surprise bills that is every 2 weeks or so (got to plan for retirement and moving to Italy). I am older and had prostate cancer so I need an hour, and since special cookies help me achieve I do outcalls (don't want to drive with that) which is becoming rare. Even those who advertise outcall will ignore outcall requests if they are getting enough incalls.
But to be totally honest, that was until I encountered Cali. When she replied with her rate I politely declined, we then started text chatting some and I was so intrigued I decided to splurge just this one time, now I know when a date IS worth it. I have been hobbying since the inception of the indiboard (I was around member #10) so this wasn't my first rodeo. At first I figured that she was really good at working me, but when I met her I realized that even if so the date was worth it, she was amazing in all ways. If I were 35 years younger she would be in trouble LOL. I am adjusting my play intervals to be able to see her moving forward. Of course she is an incredible GFE which is what I lean towards. I realize this is just me, but Cali did help me understand why some would see a higher rate provider, that is IF they delivered. Everyone has their own view of a bargain.
Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dragon527;7004499]Yes, the day's of $160 an hour from a young hottie from an agency like Adorables or even an indi from the boards are over. Just like the quality of girls you could get for that $160 for an hour. I thought that was a lot myself for a hobby but I was younger.
[URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20060310013031/http://www.adorablexxx.com/home.html[/URL]
I think $200 hhr and $300 hr is more realistic now on the low end.[/QUOTE]Now why did you have to post the Adorables link, I miss them. I saw Jack's ladies way back before he got clean. They were pretty good then but vastly improved after he shed the junk. .
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Broken record
PAWGS, serious question, how long have you been in the hobby? It can't be that long. Once again, I have to state that 20+ years ago, 300 was the going rate for a woman with all her teeth, freshly showered and wasn't nodding off.
[URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20020802140742/http://www.sophisticata.com/index2.htm[/URL]
The fact that you can still find a decent looking date at or around that price all these years later is pretty stunning. Before the indi / agency boom, 200-300 was a normal rate, and this was 25 years ago. When the agencies started looking for overseas talent, prices went down. Adorables was the LC of the time. 160 for a candy queen who hopefully didn't smell like 10 day old snapper. The industry has changed. Now you have people paying 200-300 for the walking dead on LC. Furthermore, you have the strip club aficionados who are paying 200-300 for 3 songs. Thats nine fucking minutes of fun time, at that insane rate. Of course these women who make 300 in nine minutes are going to ask 500+ for an hour of time. If anyone ruined the game, its the DD / Tootsies / BT mongers who are willing to walk in, drop 200 for 10 minutes and walk out. There are so many options out there. You just have to be patient, and find what works for you and your budget. Times change, the agencies all for the most part are gone. Its your choice to entertain the GPS girls or not. They are making a living. Trying to pretend what a good business model for them is futile. Work with what you got or try finding talent in other places. AMPs, LMPS, seeking and the cuddle sites all work for other mongers at various budgets. I've got a nice line up to choose from depending on what I'm looking for at the time. I know other vet mongers have something similar. It wasn't handed to them though. It took time to develop.
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[QUOTE=Dragon527;7004499]Yes, the day's of $160 an hour from a young hottie from an agency like Adorables or even an indi from the boards are over. Just like the quality of girls you could get for that $160 for an hour. I thought that was a lot myself for a hobby but I was younger.
[URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20060310013031/http://www.adorablexxx.com/home.html[/URL]
I think $200 hhr and $300 hr is more realistic now on the low end.[/QUOTE]Yes miss the good days with the agencies. Quality and girls were better. Platinum, banana split, and sosexy had good selection and always good service. The k-agency is one of the few left that have good quality services. Wish more agencies would return.
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[QUOTE=CoolBreeze99;7004590]PAWGS, serious question, how long have you been in the hobby? It can't be that long. Once again, I have to state that 20+ years ago, 300 was the going rate for a woman with all her teeth, freshly showered and wasn't nodding off.
[URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20020802140742/http://www.sophisticata.com/index2.htm[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I think I saw Lisa Ann ad somewhere recently. Sheesh.
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[QUOTE=DrWho;7004563]Now why did you have to post the Adorables link, I miss them. I saw Jack's ladies way back before he got clean. They were pretty good then but vastly improved after he shed the junk. .[/QUOTE]Couldn't help take a stroll down memory lane and how things were.