I hear Taylor has an athletic build, which peaks my interest. How are her ass and tits? And is she still there? I might have to go visit.
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I hear Taylor has an athletic build, which peaks my interest. How are her ass and tits? And is she still there? I might have to go visit.
When I book, I always use SMS. I don't always book a session in advance though.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7244425]When booking a session, how do you contact Iris / Alyssa (or the other MMS at your AMP of choice)?
BTW, does Iris / Alyssa send photos of new girls to any of you veterans? I had asked her once and she had replied "the photos are not very real. You come here, meet the girls and choose. " Other AMPs do send photos, without having to ask. E. g. Graton.[/QUOTE]Yes, but I only trust 10% of what I see. Very true what she says. Those are usually super touched-up (maybe except Yuki and Lulu. They were the closest thing to her photos that I received).
[QUOTE=CharlesPeligro;7244106]If it is the same, I have a number saved for a Kiki, from Shanghai 😅small dragon tattoo on her ankle this time. I honestly don't remember if it is the same girl from the past. I'll defer to the experts who remember better than me.
I'd recommend Kiki just for her looks alone. She is genuinely sexy, and I forgot to mention she gets very wet, ymmv of course.
I've had better connections with the likes of Amy, Sophia, and other who don't immediately come to mind.
Treat Kiki well[/QUOTE]Its the same Kiki, very attractive 9 face, middle of the back brown hair, C's HWP. I only recognize her, I never had a session with her.
Tiffany left for CA. I believe Cici and Annie are leaving today.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7244425]
BTW, does Iris / Alyssa send photos of new girls to any of you veterans? I had asked her once and she had replied "the photos are not very real. You come here, meet the girls and choose. " Other AMPs do send photos, without having to ask. E. g. Graton.[/QUOTE]For me the face is "AI" or doctored, but I think the body is real. The pictures I saw of Lulu and Hattie looked like 100% real.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7244425]When booking a session, how do you contact Iris / Alyssa (or the other MMS at your AMP of choice)?
1. Text via SMS or WeChat.
2. Traditional phone call.
3. WeChat video call.
I stick to #1, because that's just easier to communicate, as each party can use translator. Also, I'm anti-photogenic, so I look like an ass on video. LOL.
BTW, does Iris / Alyssa send photos of new girls to any of you veterans? I had asked her once and she had replied "the photos are not very real. You come here, meet the girls and choose. " Other AMPs do send photos, without having to ask. E. g. Graton.[/QUOTE]Contact is always through my burner app and sms. I've had girls pull up WeChat and try to convince me to download it to contact outside of the normal channels.
I've received photos in the past, although they are most definitely filtered and although the body matches, the face looks like a generic stock photo that could be any petite Chinese girl ran through the same filter.
I haven't received photos for a few months though.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7244425]When booking a session, how do you contact Iris / Alyssa (or the other MMS at your AMP of choice)?
1. Text via SMS or WeChat.
2. Traditional phone call.
3. WeChat video call.
I stick to #1, because that's just easier to communicate, as each party can use translator. Also, I'm anti-photogenic, so I look like an ass on video. LOL.
BTW, does Iris / Alyssa send photos of new girls to any of you veterans? I had asked her once and she had replied "the photos are not very real. You come here, meet the girls and choose. " Other AMPs do send photos, without having to ask. E. g. Graton.[/QUOTE]Always text to have appt set up before going in. DO NOT GO TO goods / shanghai without appt, the place is busy like Walmart Black Friday, you will get who's available at that time or worst wasting your precious time away, 50/50 you get the girl treats you like king or dope, and 50/50 you won't see all the girls there. So its comes to down to reading reviews on choosing which girls is good or nah before appt, beware of simp reviews though.
As for photos, yeah got bamboozled way too many tomes, pics are heavily photoshopped, ai, filtered etc. IMO its still better than going in blank, in some way it builds up excitement.
[QUOTE=IstlFun;7244834]Always text to have appt set up before going in. DO NOT GO TO goods / shanghai without appt, the place is busy like Walmart Black Friday, you will get who's available at that time or worst wasting your precious time away, 50/50 you get the girl treats you like king or dope, and 50/50 you won't see all the girls there. So its comes to down to reading reviews on choosing which girls is good or nah before appt, beware of simp reviews though.
As for photos, yeah got bamboozled way too many tomes, pics are heavily photoshopped, ai, filtered etc. IMO its still better than going in blank, in some way it builds up excitement.[/QUOTE]Yep, I always always make an appointment before going. Even then, Iris sometimes pulls a "oh, I forgot / missed it" (or something similar) even though she herself had confirmed the appointment on text. I have never not kept an appointment, and yet had to wait a few times. I don't mind that when Iris sits down with me and we talk during the wait. I had to wait 25 minutes last Thursday, when Alyssa was there. Our first meet, so we didn't talk much. Even with appointment, it comes down to "luck".
W. are. T. Photos, yes I understand they'll be heavily touched up. Yet, as you said, still better than going in blank. Say there are 3 girls and 1 of them are not my type at all (from photos). So, before going, I'd ask Iris whether either of the other two are available. But if I don't check that beforehand and land the one I didn't quite like, my trip will be wasted. May not be a big deal for others, but since I have to spend 1 hour in back-and-forth commute, it is kinda important to me. But Iris has never sent me photos. And looks like she sends only to VVIPs. I thought I'm at least in the VIP category, LOL.
Question. The MTs thoroughly clean our nether region with wipes and stuff before doing BJ / BLS / TUMA etc. Spending minutes on it. But when you are doing DATY / DATO, do you pick up wipes and lotion to clean her up before the act? Or do you just assume that she's clean?
Iris told me there would be a Japanese girl starting new today, so I had to visit.
Aki was the name and she is 1/2 Japanese, 1/2 Chinese. She speaks both language but not much English. Using translator app is encouraged.
The look-wise, she a bit older side, probably late 20's, early 30's but not older than that. Her body is stunning. Nice natural C, hairy pussy but damn they tasted good. Her face has both side of cute and seductive. Her natural boobs were my favorite for sure. Nice flat abs, cute ass, just perfect.
She came straight from Japan last night so I thought she would be tired but nope. She was energetic and passionate throughout.
She asked massage then boom boom or boom boom then massage? I said boom boom first. She spoke some Japanese to me which was kind of cute, too. Started with sloppy DFK and kissing each other throughout body. She smelt nice. And she had plenty of fluid both top and bottom (maybe being earlier in the day).
She gave me one of sloppiest BBBJ ever, lasted about good 10 minutes or so. I wanted to eat her out and damn, she was wet AF. I could actually tell it wasn't oil or added fluid, it was actually from her. If she faked her O during DATY, she deserves an Emmy or two. We started with standing mish after she put the cover and then she might have another O. Maybe it was real because when I pulled out and flipped her around, it was really really wet. I licked up and sucked her O and why out, and damn, it was tasty. My jr slid right back in without any added oil or lub, pounded her standin k9 then sideway. She got on me for CG and she pounded me this time. I was ready to pop so we switched side and I was on the top pounding her, running to finish, and damn. It was a good good session. She said massage? I said no, let's just lay down and cuddle and she gladly accepted. We chatted some more using the app, and my time was up, and she cleaned me up with hot towel. Got to see Kiki on my way out and she looked super cute, too. Damn, Alyssa and Iris is doing so well with bringing cute girls month after month.
Just got the word that another favorite of mine has returned to Everett. Las time I saw her was 04 Oct24 at Good. Needless to say, she left an impression. So, I have no issues with dropping a recommendation for this lovely lady. I thought she was incredibly sexy, and K9 really showed off her tiny waist leading to that heart shaped ass.
Provider Details: Beauty: 4/5, Body: 4/5, Personality: 4/5, Service: 4/5.
Overall Ranking: 4.0.
Shanni is absolutely adorable. She looks young. She wasn't wearing much makeup so her natural attractiveness really showed. Long black hair, and with her hair up and glasses on, she looks that sexy math teacher you always wanted to have in school. She has a petite frame with some very lovely curves; her body is very nice. Lovely MM C's, and a nice round ass that compliments her physique.
Service Details: BBBJ, DATY, DATO, CFS.
If you are in the are, I certainly recommend paying her a visit.
Man, I hate to be that guy but here I am. I [I]think[/I] that the rates, all-inclusive, at the places listed below are [B]200 per hour[/B]. Using the so-called Aussie method--plunk down the entire donation at the start, eliminating later negotiations--I want to verify that I'm paying market rates.
Shanghai (Everett).
One Spa (Everett).
Vivi (Lynnwood-Everett border).
Lucky Star (Lynnwood-Everett border).
It seems that Good and Tokyo, in Renton, subject to inflation, have slightly higher rates: 260 per hour, and 200 for half an hour.
[QUOTE=Original703;7245918]Man, I hate to be that guy but here I am. I [I]think[/I] that the rates, all-inclusive, at the places listed below are [B]200 per hour[/B]. Using the so-called Aussie method--plunk down the entire donation at the start, eliminating later negotiations--I want to verify that I'm paying market rates.
Shanghai (Everett).
One Spa (Everett).
Vivi (Lynnwood-Everett border).
Lucky Star (Lynnwood-Everett border).
It seems that Good and Tokyo, in Renton, subject to inflation, have slightly higher rates: 260 per hour, and 200 for half an hour.[/QUOTE]Wait what, been dropping $$ at good and Tokyo for an hr, if you desire extra pop then it's . 60 more at Tokyo, extra pop at good YMMV others can chime in.
[QUOTE=IstlFun;7245942]Wait what, been dropping $$ at good and Tokyo for an hr, if you desire extra pop then it's . 60 more at Tokyo, extra pop at good YMMV others can chime in.[/QUOTE]Tokyo has been 2 for 30 min since the Bliss era and 260 for 1 hr. Maybe you've been lucky.
[QUOTE=FlyingGolfball;7245969]Tokyo has been 2 for 30 min since the Bliss era and 260 for 1 hr. Maybe you've been lucky.[/QUOTE]Tokyo is 200 total, 300 for a duo 30-45 minutes, 400 for a duo for an hour. In my experience, just do the 300 duo. I was still shorted on time at 400.
Hold the door dude. Hoeflation is real.
[QUOTE=FlyingGolfball;7245969]Tokyo has been 2 for 30 min since the Bliss era and 260 for 1 hr. Maybe you've been lucky.[/QUOTE]Can confirm from recent visits 2 for an hour, and 3 for 30 minutes duo, at Good and Tokyo.
There's nothing to gain from paying more than the going rate. It doesn't get you better service, a prettier masseuse, ensure your time isn't shorted, or anything like that. Its just paying more.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7245263]Question. Or do you just assume that she's clean?[/QUOTE]If you're lucky she's thoroughly showered her box before your turn.
Intro: I was intrigued when I read about Aki. I messaged Iris and asked for pics of both Shanni and Aki for giggles and shits. Aki's pic had an AI watermark at the bottom. I'd say the pics are just about useless. What isn't useless is how well these shops have been bringing in top girls. Aki is well worth the trip.
Provider Details: Beauty: 4.5/5, Body: 4.2/5, Personality: 3.5/5, Service: 4/5.
Overall Ranking: 4.2
Aki is a stunner. She is petite, yet has some killer curves. Her face is a little more exotic and the Japanese shows. The surgeon who made her breasts just dethroned Kiki's surgeon. If you like incredible breasts, manmade or otherwise, go see Aki. Full Cs, possible Ds that although manmade, it is hard to tell. The faint scars don't lie, though. The rest of her curves match. She will turn heads wherever she goes.
Age: Mid to late 20's.
HT: 5' 1".
WT: 100 lbs.
Measurements: 33 D-24-33.
Service Details: GFE, DFK (very), BBBJ (wet, sloppy), BLS, DATY, FIV, CFS, CIM.
Details: Aki is very sensual, and very vocal. She took her time and gave a great BBBJ, lots of touching and pampering. There was likely some PSR or she had a very strong O. I will say some girls like to sports fuck. Aki likes it slow and to build up. Once you get her going, she is intense.
Multiple positions, lots of fun.
Conclusion: highly recommend.
Recommendation: YES.
(Shanghai / One / Good Seniors, pm me. You know who you are. If you don't share Intel, you definitely are not).
Saw Aki this morning. Bottom line, she's another great addition to the line up who provides the kind of excellent service that this place is known for. First thought was rather a plain face, but soon her wonderful smile and lovely eyes made that easy to overlook. That and her truly fantastic body. I like a slender fit build, and Aki was really magnificent. A true joy to look at. Her breasts were clearly enhanced based on the well hidden scars that were visible only when she lay down, but they were very well constructed and super soft to the touch. A true miracle of modern medical science, and not surprising that a previous reviewer thought they were fully natural, because they felt great and her nipples were really responsive. Wonderful gentle kisser on dfk. Super great BJ skills. Very responsive also to daty. Wonderfully tight on standing mish and k9 where the view was simply mind-blowing. Very limited English skills but very attentive, and clever and quick in understanding intentions. Really charming afterwards conversing by translation app. She comes from Tokyo and has a Japanese father and Chinese mother, and speaks both Japanese and Mandarin. This is her first time in America. Very solid performer who reminded me in many ways of Amy from last month with a body more like a cross between Judy and Cici. Totally concur with the two other positive reviews below in all other respects. I had a really great time with her, and she's definitely worth seeing. Introduced to Kiki on the way out, and she also looked really great. Hat tip to the management!
[QUOTE=Captainpussymo;7246337]If you're lucky she's thoroughly showered her box before your turn.[/QUOTE]Not sure what was the need to be so condescending.
Yes, I know they are getting railed every hour of every day. That's why I asked that question - "when you are doing DATY / DATO, do you pick up wipes and lotion to clean her up before the act?" and if not, "do you just assume that she's clean?
[QUOTE=CharlesPeligro;7246352]Intro: I was intrigued when I read about Aki. I messaged Iris and asked for pics of both Shanni and Aki for giggles and shits. Aki's pic had an AI watermark at the bottom 😆. I'd say the pics are just about useless. What isn't useless is how well these shops have been bringing in top girls. Aki is well worth the trip.
[/QUOTE]THe picture I got of Aki from Alyssa did not look anything like the real thing. All three ladies are HWP, middle of the back hair. 8 face. I think Kiki is the best looking with 9 face.
Review of Coco, first the good then the bad and then my take.
Good: she is a cute girl, average body.
Bad: boring, lots of "no's", complained of pain, being tired, and kept asking me to hurry (takes me a while).
My take: she isn't good at her job, no one likes to see anyone not into what they do, she is boring boring print and truly lame, avoid at all cost.
[QUOTE=CharlesPeligro;7246352]Intro: I was intrigued when I read about Aki. I messaged Iris and asked for pics of both Shanni and Aki for giggles and shits. Aki's pic had an AI watermark at the bottom 😆. I'd say the pics are just about useless. What isn't useless is how well these shops have been bringing in top girls. Aki is well worth the trip.
Provider Details: Beauty: 4.5/5, Body: 4.2/5, Personality: 3.5/5, Service: 4/5.
Overall Ranking: 4.2
[/QUOTE]Yeah Iris don't share any pics at least not to me, alyss on the other hand doesn't care much most likely share them.
Is Aki pretty initiative like not reserve, holding back to somewhat want to cut the action time short? Rlly dislike some girls try to put on innocent act, want to be reserve oh don't touch here, I'm sensitive there, you big strong go slow, b**ch you see more dudes than I do cut the act and show me what you got, prefer girls not afraid getting down dirty hehe.
I'd assume dirty. Very. I avoid these 3 places. Are the women usually hot, yes. Have I and others gotten sick and it sore throats after. Yes. I love daty dato and dfk and BBFS but it's strict safety there. On my part. There are decent looking women nearby there that offer everything but Greek and even shower before asking me to wait while they clean up. Not worth it and the busy door.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7246673]Not sure what was the need to be so condescending.
Yes, I know they are getting railed every hour of every day. That's why I asked that question - "when you are doing DATY / DATO, do you pick up wipes and lotion to clean her up before the act?" and if not, "do you just assume that she's clean?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LorenDaiz;7247113]I'd assume dirty. Very. I avoid these 3 places. Are the women usually hot, yes. Have I and others gotten sick and it sore throats after. Yes. I love daty dato and dfk and BBFS but it's strict safety there. On my part. There are decent looking women nearby there that offer everything but Greek and even shower before asking me to wait while they clean up. Not worth it and the busy door.[/QUOTE]But every review I read here. Almost every single one of them mentions they did DATY / DATO. So, that's what I was wondering about. Do they personally wipe down the MT, just like the MT wipes us down? Or do they just hope that the MT cleaned up before starting the session? Or just don't care and risk catching some bug from the DATY / DATO?
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7247125]But every review I read here. Almost every single one of them mentions they did DATY / DATO. So, that's what I was wondering about. Do they personally wipe down the MT, just like the MT wipes us down? Or do they just hope that the MT cleaned up before starting the session? Or just don't care and risk catching some bug from the DATY / DATO?[/QUOTE]Girls before like Angela, Maggie / Amy, and a few other would clean up first usually washing in the shower, but some of the girls lately do not unless they did it before they entered the room. The only one who has sent me pics is Alyssa and they were not pics of the girls that were there. The same is true of all the AMP's in the area. The girls really don't want their pics shared. Iris always tells me Shanghai is not busy, but whenever I am there the doorbell is always ringing. Seems like a pretty good revolving door. I am guessing Good in Renton is the same. I have only ever had one girl who jumped on for BBFS. She did it because she wanted to have round two. LOL It was Joey. I have bought larger condoms and left them there because the little ones they use are difficult for the girls to get on my shaft. In fact recently, one split while the girl was riding me.
After reading all the rave reviews, I was super looking forward to my session with Aki this evening. But the start itself was a downer. {-} She entered the room in a "yes, what do you want" manner. No hugs, or teasing or anything. Took the money, went out, came back. Then told me to take the clothes off. No help there. After some initial play and a BJ, she picked up the condom and motioned for fucking! {-} So soon. ! I know that once you burst, they don't let you play anymore, so I always save f-ing for the last. Then itself I understood that I am going to be shortchanged today.
Told her to lay on the bed and started DATY. {-} She had long bushes on the kitty. I had read that in earlier reviews, but wasn't expecting this much. {+} She was seemingly responding well to the DATY, moaning loudly, arching her back and all, sometimes grabbing my hand.
We swapped places and she started the BBBJ. She spit some saliva on her hand and then rubbed it on balls while doing the BJ. {+} It felt different and. Good!? {-} But no BLS. As soon as that was done, {- she again jumped and fetched the condom. Again told her "that will be the last thing".
Told her to get on the bed and kissed her all over. The stories are true. Her boobs are really one of the best I've played with in last 5 months. I was getting handsy, but she held my hand and {-} didn't let me finger her.
{-} She again motioned for fuck, and I again had to tell her "later". Told her to give me kisses on the back. {- I was kinda pissed at this point. Why the hell am I having to tell you what to do! Can't you do something sexy on your own, make me feel wanted? (Other than "let's fuck" so that you can kick me out in 10 minutes.) Totally killed the mood. Anyway she started licking and kissing the back, {- but didn't go below the waist at all!! No BLS, no TUMA. She quickly wrapped that up, {- AGAIN pushed for fuck. It had only been 30 minutes. Told her that we should cuddle for some time and then we can fuck. So we cuddled. She was mostly laying there like a dead fish, occasionally running her hands on my back. Told her to sleep on top of me, hoping that she'll do some tit rub, kiss my neck or something. {-} Nope, she just laid like a dead log on me. After 1-2 minute, she said that we're nearing the 50 min, so we should fuck and get it over with.
So I finally had the condom put on me and we finished the final course. She took the condom off, and took me to shower. Gave me a shower, with less touching of the junk than other girls had done before. When mine was done, I tried to give her a shower. Squeezed some soap in my hand. But she made me hand it over to her, {-} not letting me rub it on her. So I gave up and started drying myself with the towel. When she was done, we went back to the room. I dressed myself, no help from her there either.
She told me to see at Kiki next time. Walked me to the door and I was out. It had been 45 minutes.
Neither at Iris nor at Alyssa were there.
I'm noticing a pattern that the MTs very popular with other mongers give me very poor service. Nisa in Feb, Judy in March, and now Aki in April.
Probably because of my below avg looks and lazy eye and lack of assertiveness. I'm always a little shy, and let the woman take the lead. So they do the bare minimum. They know they don't have to bother retaining me as a customer because they are already "famous" and have no shortage of customers.
Or maybe it is because I hand over the money right after entering the room and they think they already got the money, so they don't have to "earn" it.
Anyone have recommendations for places to get a decent massage by a younger attractive masseuse? Sometimes I do crave an actual massage instead of pure action like at Good, One, Tokya, etc.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7247900]I'm noticing a pattern that the MTs very popular with other mongers give me very poor service. Nisa in Feb, Judy in March, and now Aki in April.
Probably because of my below avg looks and lazy eye and lack of assertiveness. I'm always a little shy, and let the woman take the lead. So they do the bare minimum. They know they don't have to bother retaining me as a customer because they are already "famous" and have no shortage of customers.
Or maybe it is because I hand over the money right after entering the room and they think they already got the money, so they don't have to "earn" it.[/QUOTE]It happens just need to realized you're not in Shanghai club, bring your exp to mms. If they don't do anything about it, they'll lose loyal patrons. For them girls top and bottom line is $, once they have the $ they have control how they want to service. On rare occasion, some girls will do their trickery- bare minimum service / gps. For us monger bottom line is leave with a big smile, drained, and an exp worth the buck, and we'll return for next time. Nope some girls just don't get that. Once again if a girl treat a guy like a king, she's that guy's atf and that's not a good business. Also had more than a few bad sessions bcuz of their trickeries, lesson learn is don't pay for gps be rdy to walk out with $ back.
Appreciate post like this, was planning to see her.
[QUOTE=AnonyWA;7248079]Anyone have recommendations for places to get a decent massage by a younger attractive masseuse? Sometimes I do crave an actual massage instead of pure action like at Good, One, Tokya, etc.[/QUOTE]Rainbow Health Center is okay for that. I'd say in their 30's or so.
[QUOTE=AnonyWA;7248079]Anyone have recommendations for places to get a decent massage by a younger attractive masseuse? Sometimes I do crave an actual massage instead of pure action like at Good, One, Tokya, etc.[/QUOTE]Cici at Edmond Best Massage is fairly attractive, 7-8 looks. I'm guessing mid 20's. Massage only, pretty good massage. 0.60 for an hour.
2261* 76th Ave W Edmonds.
Its behind 85 degrees bakery.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7247896]
{-} She again motioned for fuck, and I again had to tell her "later". Told her to give me kisses on the back. {- I was kinda pissed at this point. Why the hell am I having to tell you what to do! Can't you do something sexy on your own, make me feel wanted? (Other than "let's fuck" so that you can kick me out in 10 minutes.) Totally killed the mood. Anyway she started licking and kissing the back, {- but didn't go below the waist at all!! No BLS, no TUMA. She quickly wrapped that up, {- AGAIN pushed for fuck. It had only been 30 minutes. Told her that we should cuddle for some time and then we can fuck. So we cuddled. She was mostly laying there like a dead fish, occasionally running her hands on my back. Told her to sleep on top of me, hoping that she'll do some tit rub, kiss my neck or something. {-} Nope, she just laid like a dead log on me. After 1-2 minute, she said that we're nearing the 50 min, so we should fuck and get it over with.
So I finally had the condom put on me and we finished the final course. She took the condom off, and took me to shower. Gave me a shower, with less touching of the junk than other girls had done before. When mine was done, I tried to give her a shower. Squeezed some soap in my hand. But she made me hand it over to her, {-} not letting me rub it on her. So I gave up and started drying myself with the towel. When she was done, we went back to the room. I dressed myself, no help from her there either.
She told me to see at Kiki next time. Walked me to the door and I was out. It had been 45 minutes.
[/QUOTE]Sorry to be blunt here but the way you describe your behavior is off-putting. Telling a working girl to "sleep on top of you" is never going to go over well unless you've established an authentic connection, which it sounds like you hadn't.
Not trying to beat you up but try adjusting your behavior and attitude and you'll get better service. Many mongers are ugly but are treated to GFE because they're charming.
Better luck next time.
Or cause of money.
[QUOTE=Bonnaryi;7249017]Sorry to be blunt here but the way you describe your behavior is off-putting. Telling a working girl to "sleep on top of you" is never going to go over well unless you've established an authentic connection, which it sounds like you hadn't.
Not trying to beat you up but try adjusting your behavior and attitude and you'll get better service. Many mongers are ugly but are treated to GFE because they're charming.
Better luck next time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7247900]I'm noticing a pattern that the MTs very popular with other mongers give me very poor service. Nisa in Feb, Judy in March, and now Aki in April.[/QUOTE]This is a lot more of a "vibe" business than anyone participating in it would like to admit. And a lot of times if the chemistry isn't there everyone will have a lousy time, and it isn't really anybody's fault.
The only thing I'd say is that if you are consistently getting poor service from girls that consistently get great reviews you might need to ask yourself some tough questions. I don't think it is because of your looks (bluntly, there are damned few handsome devils in this hobby) either. Also keep in mind that the managers have incredible memories about customers and often pre-brief the girls about them, so you might have gotten a bad reputation from something arbitrary in the past and are now stuck with it. The memories of the managers can either work for you or against you and sometimes it is total luck of the draw which will happen.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7249258]This is a lot more of a "vibe" business than anyone participating in it would like to admit. And a lot of times if the chemistry isn't there everyone will have a lousy time, and it isn't really anybody's fault.
The only thing I'd say is that if you are consistently getting poor service from girls that consistently get great reviews you might need to ask yourself some tough questions. I don't think it is because of your looks (bluntly, there are damned few handsome devils in this hobby) either. Also keep in mind that the managers have incredible memories about customers and often pre-brief the girls about them, so you might have gotten a bad reputation from something arbitrary in the past and are now stuck with it. The memories of the managers can either work for you or against you and sometimes it is total luck of the draw which will happen.[/QUOTE]Marko Ramius is absolutely correct when he states it is a lot more about "vibe". He is also correct about the managers incredible memories about customers. I have been going to Shanghai since it opened, in fact I was the first customer the day it opened under the new ownership. I knew Iris from another store and she is great at pre-briefing the girls about what I like. Alyssa is good about doing the same with the girls. I disagree with the comment someone made about not being in the Shanghai Club. If you treat the girls well and you are good to them they will respond accordingly.
I know some mongers have complained about Iris as the manager. If you talk to her about your not so good experience with a girl Iris listens and takes care of it. Alyssa does the same. So, instead of submitting a bad review, first speak to the manager about your experience and let her deal with it.
Iris and Alyssa have done an excellent job getting beautiful young ladies into the stores. Keep in mind that some of the girls have not had much experience in this line of work when they come to this country. The owners see these bad reviews and then think the manager is not doing a good job.
I will just close with Iris has been doing a fantastic job! We are fortunate that she is managing the store / stores. The same is true of Alyssa. I have never experienced bait and switch with Iris. So, I give her high praise regarding her managing skills.
[QUOTE=Strong1954;7249334]Marko Ramius is absolutely correct when he states it is a lot more about "vibe". He is also correct about the managers incredible memories about customers. I have been going to Shanghai since it opened, in fact I was the first customer the day it opened under the new ownership. I knew Iris from another store and she is great at pre-briefing the girls about what I like. Alyssa is good about doing the same with the girls. I disagree with the comment someone made about not being in the Shanghai Club. If you treat the girls well and you are good to them they will respond accordingly.
I know some mongers have complained about Iris as the manager. If you talk to her about your not so good experience with a girl Iris listens and takes care of it. Alyssa does the same. So, instead of submitting a bad review, first speak to the manager about your experience and let her deal with it.
Iris and Alyssa have done an excellent job getting beautiful young ladies into the stores. Keep in mind that some of the girls have not had much experience in this line of work when they come to this country. The owners see these bad reviews and then think the manager is not doing a good job.
I will just close with Iris has been doing a fantastic job! We are fortunate that she is managing the store / stores. The same is true of Alyssa. I have never experienced bait and switch with Iris. So, I give her high praise regarding her managing skills.[/QUOTE]Agree with Strong and Marko, the latter of whom should know because he has the largest submarine in the fleet. On a hopefully constructive note for Legend, it's possible to get better results by adopting a more positive persona. Not by changing yourself in a deep way, but just by pretending to be someone else. The girls are playing characters. You should play one too. You don't have to change yourself. Just pretend for an hour to be a happy, positive, confident guy who knows the ladies enjoy him. They'll key off the persona you project. After a while you'll start to become that guy. It's not about handsome. Look at Bogart. It's about confident. And you don't have to be confident at first. Just pretend to be someone who's confident. Watch some movies of confident guys. Or read a book. Pretend to be that guy. Seriously. It works.
[QUOTE=Gibs789;7249453]Agree with Strong and Marko, the latter of whom should know because he has the largest submarine in the fleet. On a hopefully constructive note for Legend, it's possible to get better results by adopting a more positive persona. Not by changing yourself in a deep way, but just by pretending to be someone else. The girls are playing characters. You should play one too. You don't have to change yourself. Just pretend for an hour to be a happy, positive, confident guy who knows the ladies enjoy him. They'll key off the persona you project. After a while you'll start to become that guy. It's not about handsome. Look at Bogart. It's about confident. And you don't have to be confident at first. Just pretend to be someone who's confident. Watch some movies of confident guys. Or read a book. Pretend to be that guy. Seriously. It works.[/QUOTE]I am not a great writer so I will say this. I agree with what other folks stated here (quoted here). There is no Shanghai club per se. Wherever I go, I treat girls nicely and I always get it back with their service level. So yeh, I don't think it's anything to do with your look or physical appearance but how you treat them.
There are other individuals like yourself (no need to point fingers, but you know who you are) that need to understand that you are the common denominator.
Setting yourself up with high expectations or expecting the girls to behave a specific way is an easy way to be disappointed.
Ultimately it's the girls giving additional services at an AMP, and to expect XYZ because someone else had an experience is just a way to ruin it for yourself. Also constant negative feedback will build yourself a negative reputation where they don't want your business.
Just be kind and charismatic like gibs said, and generally they'll match the energy.
[QUOTE=Legendaddy;7247900]I'm noticing a pattern that the MTs very popular with other mongers give me very poor service. Nisa in Feb, Judy in March, and now Aki in April.
Probably because of my below avg looks and lazy eye and lack of assertiveness. I'm always a little shy, and let the woman take the lead. So they do the bare minimum. They know they don't have to bother retaining me as a customer because they are already "famous" and have no shortage of customers.
Or maybe it is because I hand over the money right after entering the room and they think they already got the money, so they don't have to "earn" it.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Legendaddy;7247896]After reading all the rave reviews, I was super looking forward to my session with Aki this evening. But the start itself was a downer. {-} She entered the room in a "yes, what do you want" manner. No hugs, or teasing or anything. Took the money, went out, came back. Then told me to take the clothes off. No help there. After some initial play and a BJ, she picked up the condom and motioned for fucking! {-} So soon. ! I know that once you burst, they don't let you play anymore, so I always save f-ing for the last. Then itself I understood that I am going to be shortchanged today.
Told her to lay on the bed and started DATY. {-} She had long bushes on the kitty. I had read that in earlier reviews, but wasn't expecting this much. {+} She was seemingly responding well to the DATY, moaning loudly, arching her back and all, sometimes grabbing my hand..[/QUOTE]
Let me be the first to say I am a frequent to Shanghai and nearly always have a good time. I am nice to the girls, Iris knows me by name (not my real one) and I nearly always get a handy or whatever on top of the main course. So with that, I had a very rare bad experience yesterday.
I always go in the morning, just my experience that the girls are a bit less tired early. Text Iris ask how long the wait is she said just come 2 girls are free. I hadn't tried the new April girls so was looking forward to it. Pulled Misa, typical shanghai girl, young, skinny, etc. She seemed chipper but also tired, which probably was a red flag. She is from Taiwan, and has been in the US for 3 years (mostly in LA) but is new to the area.
I actually wanted a little rub first to get me in the mood, and she didn't even try. Before people say "you don't go there for the massage" I know that, but typically the girls at least do some teasing or whatever. She just pressed on my back a few times. I got over that quick and I went to move 2, which is me get the girl in the mood. I give great massages and have realized that even 5 minutes of massage makes these girls far more interested in giving you a good session. The second I started massaging her, the response I got was that she had never had a massage in her whole life. She was really enjoying it so I thought I was off to the races.
I will be the first to say I have issues with my dick size. It isn't long but it is thick and when girls see it like 75% hard they start to make comments "I need to get bigger condom, you too strong". I don't like it but I am used to it. But she really laid it on thick, another red flag. BJ was very mid, as she seemed to struggle with actually getting it in her mouth (other girls can do it, I am not girthmaster) and wanted boom boom too quick. She than did the thing if I catch it tell the girls not to do, slather up with so much lube that I can't DATY at all, but I didn't catch it fast enough.
Every position there was a complaint about it being too big and non-sexy ouch sounds. After a bit I ask if she wants a break and she said yes. Offers to do more BJ and I say sure. Condom off and back to sucking, this time much better, faster and more spit. I am not going to cum this way so I ask to fuck again. She makes a big ole stink about wasting a condom, to which I replied "I know you aren't going to run out" out of frustration. I get her in doggy and close my eyes and pound away, trying to drown out the "ouch, keep going" and finally bust.
Typical cleanup, water and out the door. I asked to see the other girls and met Aki, who is more of the bimbo variety. When I got in my call and texted Iris "Misa 👎" and she asked for more info, apologized and said it would be handled and to remind her next time I go, so I will probably have a better experience next time.
Anyway, had to vent, thanks for coming to my AMP Talk.