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[QUOTE=TheGark;1534826]How can someone who makes $175 / hour come up short for rent?[/QUOTE]Many of these ladies are not fiscally responsible, plain and simple. Often the influx of easy money turns into poorly planned shopping extravaganzas. Or many have drug or alcohol habits. Also some are enablers. They earn money that goes into the pockets of deadbeat baby daddies, derelict husbands or mooching families. Over the years I have seen way too many women who have no idea how to manage the quick and easy money they make.

[QUOTE=Quick Draw; 1535022]Since I brought this up, I didn't think there would be this much interest. I do feel 2 or 3 close ladies should be the judges. This may even out the way we are scored. One providor may not care for a monger as much a another. There maybe some scheduling issues etc. Or, spread the wealth to 3 ladies instead of 1. Just thinking out loud.

Be Safe QD.[/QUOTE]We would be counting on the integrity of the judges 100% here. They would HAVE to rate based solely on the skill and not the monger's personality. And they should not be talking with each other about the various participants. I think it would be up to the provider and monger to schedule a time during the competition period (say a 30 day stretch) and ONLY provide DATY at that meeting. Any bribes would immediately disqualify the participant. If we got 7 providers, then we could drop the high and low scores (like they do in the Olympics) and average out the middle 5. Less than 7 and we just average the scores.

The "organizer" should be made aware of the meeting time (NOT location, just time) and the judge should send results with 30-60 minutes after the meeting so that there is no mis-remembering.

For providers / judges, we would need to decide on the price for your services. We do not want the entry fee to be prohibitive and we would want enough left over for the prize.

Also, I think that the two providers chosen by the winner would have to be from the judging pool and of course be willing to do a session together.

-BigBird69

[QUOTE=Lilly21;1534958]How much did Buddha pay you to say that?[/QUOTE]I know B and I know that posts such as this are because he is reliable, fair and takes care of both the provider and the client. I've never had a situation where B let me down. He's never paid me nor made any quid pro quo part of the equation.

I am all about this-I can be a participant, but I think I would be a great organizer / judge.

Here's the deal: We make a score sheet with categories and score each category on a scale of one to ten. Email scoresheets to the providers, and after the session they email the scores to the judge. The hobbyists should not be allowed to see their individual reviews from the providers (don't want to hurt anyone's feelings if they get bad marks). Not every provider has to see each contestant, but each contestant should have, let's say. 5 DATY trials. The judge then averages the scores, and at the end, we can compile an overall DATY winner, and then we can post the winners in each category. Instead of dropping the highest and lowest scores, any scoresheet will all 1's or all 10's in each category should be eliminated (this will help keep away bribes for high scores!)

But we also need a way to compile the contest money, and determine the fee, and keep the money in a safe place (a paypal account would be a great way to store the cash).

Instead of doing this over a 30 day period, I think it needs to be done in a week-each girl can test out one guy per day.

And at the end, we can let the guys see their scoresheets so they know what to work on in terms of DATY, but leave the provider's name off their scoresheet.

Just some ideas I have. When I get some free time, I will create a rough draft of a possible scoresheet, and then we can all work on it from there.

Molly

[QUOTE=Sinful Dreams; 1534122]Sounds like a GREAT idea. I can already nominate quite a few. I am willing to do it, just let me know when.

Stay Safe,

Ally[/QUOTE]So how much do we charge each of the ladies to participate and be pleasures with great day? { LOL }

[QUOTE=Nday Guy;1535260]So how much do we charge each of the ladies to participate and be pleasures with great day? { LOL }[/QUOTE]I think it should depend on the number of contestants-the more contestants, the bigger the prize money will be. So more contestants (guys) could make a low entry fee.

[QUOTE=TheGark;1534826]How can someone who makes $175 / hour come up short for rent?[/QUOTE]Let's do a little bit of math for a LOW volume provider, say 5 appts a week and we'll assume full hour not half hours.

That's $875 / week or $42k a year.

Now, if you allow for other expenses such as food, school (books, fees, etc very heavy at this time of year) or a car repair it can be very easy to have problems making rent.

You need to think more like someone in their early 20's just starting out rather than someone 15 years or so older that has gotten established in life.

You cannot assume how many appointments a lady successfully books (as in guy cancels or worse does a no show) and you have to remember they do have slow seasons (Christmas, tax time, the summer. The times when the guys' surplus cash is committed elsewhere).

[QUOTE=BigBird69; 1535138]We would be counting on the integrity of the judges 100% here. They would HAVE to rate based solely on the skill and not the monger's personality. And they should not be talking with each other about the various participants. I think it would be up to the provider and monger to schedule a time during the competition period (say a 30 day stretch) and ONLY provide DATY at that meeting. Any bribes would immediately disqualify the participant. If we got 7 providers, then we could drop the high and low scores (like they do in the Olympics) and average out the middle 5. Less than 7 and we just average the scores.

The "organizer" should be made aware of the meeting time (NOT location, just time) and the judge should send results with 30-60 minutes after the meeting so that there is no mis-remembering.

For providers / judges, we would need to decide on the price for your services. We do not want the entry fee to be prohibitive and we would want enough left over for the prize.

Also, I think that the two providers chosen by the winner would have to be from the judging pool and of course be willing to do a session together.

-BigBird69[/QUOTE]1) Maximum amount of time allowed.

2) Extra points if the lady pops solely from DATY (with additional for multiple pops)

3) Variations on technique allowed.

4) Deductions for no no's.

5) Deductions for going over

First time posting. Dreamed of summer early this morning, actually woke her up. She was able to be ready for me withing a half hour. It was perfect, when I walked in the place was filled with candles everywhere. The massage was just what I needed and she made me feel perfectly at ease the second I walked in. I know she would have done anything I needed if I just asked but I was fully satisfied rubbing on her amazing knockers.

Thanks for the amazing time, I will repeat when ever I can pull the funds together.

[QUOTE=WarlockKy; 1535404]Let's do a little bit of math for a LOW volume provider, say 5 appts a week and we'll assume full hour not half hours.

That's $875 / week or $42k a year.

Now, if you allow for other expenses such as food, school (books, fees, etc very heavy at this time of year) or a car repair it can be very easy to have problems making rent.

You need to think more like someone in their early 20's just starting out rather than someone 15 years or so older that has gotten established in life.

You cannot assume how many appointments a lady successfully books (as in guy cancels or worse does a no show) and you have to remember they do have slow seasons (Christmas, tax time, the summer. The times when the guys' surplus cash is committed elsewhere).[/QUOTE]Did you figure in the fact that the ladies are not paying Federal, State or Local income tax? And then there is FICA that isn't being withheld. So in reality, $42K is well over $50K.

[QUOTE=TheBigRed1;1535495]Did you figure in the fact that the ladies are not paying Federal, State or Local income tax? And then there is FICA that isn't being withheld. So in reality, $42K is well over $50K.[/QUOTE]I realize that the ladies don't pay taxes on their income from this business. That means that they will not get social security. What do they do when they are too old to work? I realize also (sorry for bringing this up) that their life expectancy is below average, but some of them must make it to old age. Just wondering.

I can not speak for all of the providers but I can speak for myself. I do not use this as an only source of income but as a way to suppliment my income. I have worked a full time job since the age of 16. I have a family that I care for as a single mother and also care for my disabled mother. I myself have a very small group of friends which visit on a regular basis (once a month or so) and only post to meet new friends. So when I come to the age to where I can retire I will have social security to rely on if it is still available.

I'm in if its set during a week I don't have my son. .

[QUOTE=WarlockKy; 1535409]1) Maximum amount of time allowed.

2) Extra points if the lady pops solely from DATY (with additional for multiple pops)

3) Variations on technique allowed.

4) Deductions for no no's.

5) Deductions for going over[/QUOTE]

So I will be a nice guy and not bring things up. To answer your question, he has given me nothing, I have not seen his girls, and I have not talked to him in many months. And the few times I did talk to him were not pleasant for either of us. And even then I did not see any of his girls. I think with all the arrests for various things, as well as television shows, and seniors turning on girls I will be very very choosy. I hope that answered your question.

[QUOTE=Lilly21;1534958]How much did Buddha pay you to say that?[/QUOTE]

You are very right! Some of the ladies aren't smart enough like Myself who has a career job. This I only do for the fun and extra help. I actually pay My taxes and do not live off of any government assistance and don't depend on this as income at all.

As far as life expectancy, Where do You get that "We" would have a shorter life expectancy? I play it safe 100% and I do not hook up with a lot. I'm very picky and do not have high traffic in and out of My house so I'm sure I will live just as long as a Lady working at P&G who doesn't have a "side" job. LOL.

[QUOTE=Golden3;1535573]I realize that the ladies don't pay taxes on their income from this business. That means that they will not get social security. What do they do when they are too old to work? I realize also (sorry for bringing this up) that their life expectancy is below average, but some of them must make it to old age. Just wondering.[/QUOTE]

Since Molly wants to help spear head this up, I fully agree to let her. She has been around and is a trusted lady and who wouldn't want her to judge. Molly I saw you once incase you forgot. Molly, pm me if you would like me to call and we can go over some details, or maybe I can come over for a fun / business visit!

Be Safe QD.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1535186]I am all about this-I can be a participant, but I think I would be a great organizer / judge.

Here's the deal: We make a score sheet with categories and score each category on a scale of one to ten. Email scoresheets to the providers, and after the session they email the scores to the judge. The hobbyists should not be allowed to see their individual reviews from the providers (don't want to hurt anyone's feelings if they get bad marks). Not every provider has to see each contestant, but each contestant should have, let's say. 5 DATY trials. The judge then averages the scores, and at the end, we can compile an overall DATY winner, and then we can post the winners in each category. Instead of dropping the highest and lowest scores, any scoresheet will all 1's or all 10's in each category should be eliminated (this will help keep away bribes for high scores!)

But we also need a way to compile the contest money, and determine the fee, and keep the money in a safe place (a paypal account would be a great way to store the cash).

Instead of doing this over a 30 day period, I think it needs to be done in a week-each girl can test out one guy per day.

And at the end, we can let the guys see their scoresheets so they know what to work on in terms of DATY, but leave the provider's name off their scoresheet.

Just some ideas I have. When I get some free time, I will create a rough draft of a possible scoresheet, and then we can all work on it from there.

Molly[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Quick Draw;1535845]Since Molly wants to help.[/QUOTE]I personally don't feel prepared enough to compete at this level. If interested providers would like to be my coach, I'd like them to reach out to me.

[QUOTE=Golden3;1535573]I realize that the ladies don't pay taxes on their income from this business. That means that they will not get social security. What do they do when they are too old to work? I realize also (sorry for bringing this up) that their life expectancy is below average, but some of them must make it to old age. Just wondering.[/QUOTE]Like the old saying goes, when you assume you make an ASS-U-ME (ass out of you & me). I really don't think that one could draw any useful conclusion as to what a provider will be doing, successful or otherwise. 40 yrs from now. The fact that she may not be paying FICA now has no relavence IMO. Lots of things can and do change for these gals over time, just as they do for hobbyists. In fact one could just as easily draw some hairbrained conclusion that if you or I are out dropping 100's of dollas on pleasures of the flesh with these same providers, that we aren't apt to end up with anything either. See how crazy that is.

The musings of the DATY contest are much more productive, so lets stay focused on such things rather than passing judgment on ladies of the hobby.

That sounds like a great idea. I would love to know how I really do without someone pumping up my ego. I'm sure I am great but it would be nice to be sure. LOL.

I will step aside and let you run with it. A week is not enough time as you make the assumption that the mongers can get away every day of the week.

Have fun and good luck to all the participants.

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1535186]I am all about this-I can be a participant, but I think I would be a great organizer / judge.

Here's the deal: We make a score sheet with categories and score each category on a scale of one to ten. Email scoresheets to the providers, and after the session they email the scores to the judge. The hobbyists should not be allowed to see their individual reviews from the providers (don't want to hurt anyone's feelings if they get bad marks). Not every provider has to see each contestant, but each contestant should have, let's say. 5 DATY trials. The judge then averages the scores, and at the end, we can compile an overall DATY winner, and then we can post the winners in each category. Instead of dropping the highest and lowest scores, any scoresheet will all 1's or all 10's in each category should be eliminated (this will help keep away bribes for high scores!)

But we also need a way to compile the contest money, and determine the fee, and keep the money in a safe place (a paypal account would be a great way to store the cash).

Instead of doing this over a 30 day period, I think it needs to be done in a week-each girl can test out one guy per day.

And at the end, we can let the guys see their scoresheets so they know what to work on in terms of DATY, but leave the provider's name off their scoresheet.

Just some ideas I have. When I get some free time, I will create a rough draft of a possible scoresheet, and then we can all work on it from there.

Molly[/QUOTE]

I had a dream about Candice last week. She definitely wants to please. Nice BBBJCIM. Not rushed and safe.

[QUOTE=Tit Man Too;1535975]I had a dream about Candice last week. She definitely wants to please. Nice BBBJCIM. Not rushed and safe.[/QUOTE]I had a similar dream last week. It was absolutely wonderful. I will be dreaming about her again.

[QUOTE=BigBird69; 1535914]I will step aside and let you run with it. A week is not enough time as you make the assumption that the mongers can get away every day of the week.

Have fun and good luck to all the participants.

-BigBird69.[/QUOTE]I will step away and leave it to you guys. It was just an opinion.

Molly

I would love to see your Boo, but your inbox is full and she can't get any more PM's.

Would you please send me a PM so we can get together?

Thwack

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1536054]I will step away and leave it to you guys. It was just an opinion.

Molly[/QUOTE]My response did not read the way I meant it, I was trying for brevity and ended up sounding whiny. I have no problem letting your organize it. I am 100% OK with it.

However, one week is not enough in my opinion as I WANT to participate but could not see 5 ladies in one week simply for scheduling reasons. If everybody else can and that is what is decided, then I will just wait until the next one.

Sorry for not taking the time to read my own post.

-BigBird69

Sorry I have deleted my inbox and can now receive messages.

Golly Molly,

I thought you ladies were paying us guys for this.
Each lady pays a small fee and the guys work real hard to be the winner.
It's a lot of tongue work providing you ladies with so much pleasure.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;1535277]I think it should depend on the number of contestants-the more contestants, the bigger the prize money will be. So more contestants (guys) could make a low entry fee.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thwack; 1536168]I would love to see your Boo, but your inbox is full and she can't get any more PM's.

Would you please send me a PM so we can get together?

Thwack[/QUOTE]You could just email here at: i_will_be_ur_boo@yahoo.com

Highly recommend her for a couple of reasons; 1) service and 2) she is just a very sweet gal

[QUOTE=BigBird69; 1535914]I will step aside and let you run with it. A week is not enough time as you make the assumption that the mongers can get away every day of the week.

Have fun and good luck to all the participants.

-BigBird69.[/QUOTE]I am the undisputed champion. LOL my tounge has been clocked at over 100mph. Oh and I play a trumpet. I know no fair. LOL

Once again UTR delivers what he promises.

Genvive is indeed back and is the one I delighted in today. I was gone for about a month and was disapointed last week when she was no longer going to be available. When I came to town this morning and saw UTRs ad, I called and scheduled a session.

It was perfect. Everything was as good as it was the last time I had a session, though last time I had an outcall and this time I went to the hotel in NKY it was worth the ride.

Genvive is an absolutely lovely spinner with the greatest attitude out there and genuinely enjoys what she does and does everything to make sure you do too. A definate 12 on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the best. A definate repeat and for 1. 25 for the full non rushed hr, well worth it.

But I will just sit on the sidelines waiting for the results, as the shrapnel is going to be epic when this is all over!

[QUOTE=Varoom;1535900]Like the old saying goes, when you assume you make an ASS-U-ME (ass out of you & me). I really don't think that one could draw any useful conclusion as to what a provider will be doing, successful or otherwise. 40 yrs from now. The fact that she may not be paying FICA now has no relavence IMO.[/QUOTE]You're right. After I posted that thought, I realized how dumb it was.

Since this is one of my personal favorite things and I have been told that I am talented in this "sport", I would like to participate. So, add me to the list of contestants.

I may not win the Olympics, but just participating sounds like a [B][I]win[/I][/B] to me anyhow and hopefully for the participating ladies too. And, this would be a great way for me to meet some of the Providers that I have not had the opportunity to meet (like Molly).

I would like to see the scoring categories before the competition (so I know what to do during practice) and any other Judging Criteria or Rules.

I love the idea and it sounds like Molly and others have a good plan for how to do this.

Post a list of participating ladies and gentlemen, when that info is available too.

This should be fun!

JRW1

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;1535186]I am all about this-I can be a participant, but I think I would be a great organizer / judge.

Here's the deal: We make a score sheet with categories and score each category on a scale of one to ten. Email scoresheets to the providers, and after the session they email the scores to the judge. The hobbyists should not be allowed to see their individual reviews from the providers (don't want to hurt anyone's feelings if they get bad marks). Not every provider has to see each contestant, but each contestant should have, let's say. 5 DATY trials. The judge then averages the scores, and at the end, we can compile an overall DATY winner, and then we can post the winners in each category. Instead of dropping the highest and lowest scores, any scoresheet will all 1's or all 10's in each category should be eliminated (this will help keep away bribes for high scores!)

But we also need a way to compile the contest money, and determine the fee, and keep the money in a safe place (a paypal account would be a great way to store the cash).

Instead of doing this over a 30 day period, I think it needs to be done in a week-each girl can test out one guy per day.

And at the end, we can let the guys see their scoresheets so they know what to work on in terms of DATY, but leave the provider's name off their scoresheet.

Just some ideas I have. When I get some free time, I will create a rough draft of a possible scoresheet, and then we can all work on it from there.

Molly[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WarlockKy;1535409]1) Maximum amount of time allowed.

2) Extra points if the lady pops solely from DATY (with additional for multiple pops)

3) Variations on technique allowed.

4) Deductions for no no's.

5) Deductions for going over[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheBigRed1;1535495]Did you figure in the fact that the ladies are not paying Federal, State or Local income tax? And then there is FICA that isn't being withheld. So in reality, $42K is well over $50K.[/QUOTE]But you also have to deduct for babysitters, car expenses, parking, cost of incall, medical costs, phone and all of the other odds and ends.

Think of it as a business and apply everything to it that you would for any other P&L.

Or to put it another way how much does a newbie doc or an attorney make if they try to hang out their own shingle without joining a practice / firm first.

[QUOTE=Jay Malibu;1535173]I know B and I know that posts such as this are because he is reliable, fair and takes care of both the provider and the client. I've never had a situation where B let me down. He's never paid me nor made any quid pro quo part of the equation.[/QUOTE]Theres a little that you don't know baby cakes. From what I heard of be he doesn't pay he steals. Or robs whatever. He told me specifically himslef. He told wingman todd not to bring any new girls onto the board. He said wingman todd disobeyed him (yeah because we are supposed to obey a half ass pimp?). He told me that he went to wingmans house. And I heard the same story from who-dey man and wingman todd. Anyway he sat at the table with wingman and pulls out a gun. Who dey man told me that buddah had guys outside in the car also. But when me and buddah talked about it. Buddah said it was a lie. He told wingman he did but there was nobody else. Well. Buddah told me he had wingman take him to the bank and forced wingman to withdraw 1500. When I asked buddah why. He replied with I told wingman not to bring any new girls onto the board I want my son to have a good Christmas. Wow what about the providers who needed xtra money for there kids Christmas? The ones that wingman introducd to the board at the time. Buddah has a complex. A king complex. When you sit up here and hoop and holler on about Buddah. Your feeding that. You know nothing of Buddah. I have friends who know him personally outside the hobby. And it makes you sound like a groupie. Thats just my opinion. Pimps are awful. They beat and take money from the girls. I know I'm not giving half of anything I make to anyone minus my child.

Anyone heard anything on Stormy? She was a "first" for me. The last week of June. Been looking for her, but seems to have disappeared. Any recommendations for similar providers?

Thanks

I don't post much, but I do check in daily I is getting a little silly with all this other bull. To sort thru. I'm not talking about the DATY Olympics that is a great idea. I'm just saying I don't know one person other than a provider who gives a crap about how much a provider makes just how much we pay. Not to rant just saying