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AMP paranoia
[QUOTE=Member #2322]And here's something to add to your paranoia. On regular glass mirrors, you can scrape away a tiny dot from the back side of the mirror and put a pinhole camera there. It is very difficult to see where the mirror finish has been scraped, especially in a dark room. It will basically look like a black dot. But the pinhole camera can see everything.[/QUOTE]Oh nooo, I feel like I opened up a paranoia discussion. Pinhole cameras? WTF! Damn, what else? Perhaps listening devices, infra red heat detectors, GPS implants or perhaps even some satellite imagery to track every movement of all of us mongers. I am no security expert, but I wouldn’t think that pinhole cameras wouldn’t need mirrors, if someone would want to place them at AMP. I suppose, because of its size, you could place it anywhere on the wall or the ceiling and in the semi dark room it is hard to see it no matter where it is. Perhaps I should give up this mongering stuff all together and use the money to buy me a piece of land and start my new hobby of growing organic herbs. And I don’t mean something you could smoke, inhale or inject. Just plain old food additives.
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[QUOTE=Member #2322]And here's something to add to your paranoia. On regular glass mirrors, you can scrape away a tiny dot from the back side of the mirror and put a pinhole camera there. It is very difficult to see where the mirror finish has been scraped, especially in a dark room. It will basically look like a black dot. But the pinhole camera can see everything.[/QUOTE]Don't forget about all those surveillance devices that are disguised as everyday household items. Think fans, dgital clocks, boom boxes...
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[QUOTE=John Ross]Don't forget about all those surveillance devices that are disguised as everyday household items. Think fans, dgital clocks, boom boxes...[/QUOTE]Gentlemen,
Do we have to make the Paranoia levels skyrocket? I mean. I don't even monger anymore. My current lover's keeping me more than satisfied. But with all the talk of Pinhole Cameras and Spy Fans and such it really makes me want to never go back to an AMP again. And I have to say that I love the whole Relaxation parlor experience.
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Paranoia
[QUOTE=Slypher]Gentlemen,
Do we have to make the Paranoia levels skyrocket? I mean. I don't even monger anymore. My current lover's keeping me more than satisfied. But with all the talk of Pinhole Cameras and Spy Fans and such it really makes me want to never go back to an AMP again. And I have to say that I love the whole Relaxation parlor experience.[/QUOTE]I was only joking in my post about starting the organic herb garden. This hobby of mongering is much more fun. Various sorts of paranoia can be applied to almost all aspects of life, therefore it can take life out of life. I live my life without thinking too much about it because truly what I do is not hurting anyone and should not bring any attention to my life style. Still, I like to be careful when situation calls for it. I think that’s the best I can do.
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smoke and mirrors
Think!
The AMPs have more than enough to worry about with LE and the Massage Licensing Board. They hardly want to get in trouble with privacy laws by illegally recording patrons in sex acts without their knowledge. In most states that would be a felony. And what would they use the tapes for? Blackmail their customers? That is an even more serious crime.
Many places have a security camera covering the entrance so they can see the person(s) ringing their door bell. They may tape that, so if they get robbed they have some evidence for LE, but I doubt that they even do that.
No need to be paranoid!
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I agree about the paranoia level being high. I doubt any AMP would record provider activities as it would provide evidence against them if there is a raid.
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[QUOTE=Mravcapo69] GPS implants or perhaps even some satellite imagery to track every movement of all of us mongers. [/QUOTE]
GPS implants? Wait a minute!
I thought that provider I had last week stuck her finger up my ass because she liked me!
Just kidding,
Primal Needs
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[QUOTE=Primal Needs]GPS implants? Wait a minute!
I thought that provider I had last week stuck her finger up my ass because she liked me!
Just kidding,
Primal Needs[/QUOTE]No man, she was just making sure you were not LE and checking if you were wired in any way, or anywhere. Sure they will tell you whatever you want to hear, like “it’s a prostate massage.” I guess one of these days you should try similar approach with her, stick your member ups her ass and tell her, sorry baby you’re feeling little hot tonight. I am just taking your temperature. Just to see how she would react to that ;-)
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Pink
Did my usually. Started at the KB. Called Pink. I asked Mama if that Japanese girl was there, the one that called in sick 2 week ago. Mama said she's available. Got there, went straight to the room. In comes a girl, cute.
Then it hits me, she looks so familiar. I asked her name, it's Angie.
I did her twice before. The 2nd time, I picked her, I had forgotton I was with her before and only realized it after we were in the room. Now, this is the 3rd
time. Don't get me wrong, Angie is O.K. I just want to do a different girl each time I go for ORT. The Japanese Girl wasn't there. Mama said she's Korean, but, she has that Japanese look.
Had to do a stand-up shower, no TS. TS room broken....for 3 weeks? Sounds like an excuse not to give TS's.
There was a tall Korean Girl there that night. I thought it was Apple.
She looked like a Michelle Wie with her hair up Prom Style. Her name was Princess. Really sexy looking girl. FYI
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[QUOTE=Mravcapo69]Oh nooo, I feel like I opened up a paranoia discussion. Pinhole cameras? WTF! Damn, what else? Perhaps listening devices, infra red heat detectors, GPS implants or perhaps even some satellite imagery to track every movement of all of us mongers. I am no security expert, but I wouldn’t think that pinhole cameras wouldn’t need mirrors, if someone would want to place them at AMP. I suppose, because of its size, you could place it anywhere on the wall or the ceiling and in the semi dark room it is hard to see it no matter where it is. Perhaps I should give up this mongering stuff all together and use the money to buy me a piece of land and start my new hobby of growing organic herbs. And I don’t mean something you could smoke, inhale or inject. Just plain old food additives.[/QUOTE]Several places I've been to you could hear what was going on in the other rooms.
Not by listening through the walls, but the sound travelled through the vents.
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Haole girls in AMP’s
From reading this forum, I understand that most of you do prefer Asian ladies over Haole/Local girls. Some even avoid Haoles all together. I am just curious what some of you would do if presented with a “laundry list” of things Haole girls don’t do. Do you just get up, collect your house fee from Mama, and walk out; or do you go with the session anyways and never repeat?
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[QUOTE=Mravcapo69]No man, she was just making sure you were not LE and checking if you were wired in any way, or anywhere. Sure they will tell you whatever you want to hear, like “it’s a prostate massage.” I guess one of these days you should try similar approach with her, stick your member ups her ass and tell her, sorry baby you’re feeling little hot tonight. I am just taking your temperature. Just to see how she would react to that ;-)[/QUOTE]
I had a provider ask me if I wanted her to fuck me in the ass. I said excuse me...she wanted to stick a finger or two up my butt. I told her no, but do you want ME to fuck YOU in the ass. She didn't reply to that.
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Purao
[QUOTE=Mravcapo69]From reading this forum, I understand that most of you do prefer Asian ladies over Haole/Local girls. Some even avoid Haoles all together. I am just curious what some of you would do if presented with a “laundry list” of things Haole girls don’t do. Do you just get up, collect your house fee from Mama, and walk out; or do you go with the session anyways and never repeat?[/QUOTE]
I aint never seen a haole girl YET in any AMP I been in. My "S.O." now is a "type" of haole. But I dont consider her one. She is just plain badass. S'why I do her...blissful GFE, every time. BBBJTCIP every time.
Life is good.
Homerun Hinode :cool:
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[QUOTE=Tommyah]There was a tall Korean Girl there that night. I thought it was Apple.
She looked like a Michelle Wie with her hair up Prom Style. Her name was Princess. Really sexy looking girl. FYI[/QUOTE]
The way Wie is playing, she might end up working there in a few years.
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[QUOTE=Belut Boy]The way Wie is playing, she might end up working there in a few years.[/QUOTE]BB,
That is a good one!
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[QUOTE=Mravcapo69]From reading this forum, I understand that most of you do prefer Asian ladies over Haole/Local girls. Some even avoid Haoles all together. I am just curious what some of you would do if presented with a “laundry list” of things Haole girls don’t do. Do you just get up, collect your house fee from Mama, and walk out; or do you go with the session anyways and never repeat?[/QUOTE]I had one like that. She was hot so I decided to do her anyway. I just never went back. Actually. I posted about it several pages back. She kept a kleenex around the base of the condom and I got freaked out cause I thought "SHit. What if she has Herpes and was 'trying' to protect me. Oh good god. "
And Hinode. You lucky SOB. I envy you. I just want you to know that.
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[QUOTE=Hinode]I aint never seen a haole girl YET in any AMP I been in. My "S.O." now is a "type" of haole. But I dont consider her one. She is just plain badass. S'why I do her...blissful GFE, every time. BBBJTCIP every time.
Life is good.
Homerun Hinode :cool:[/QUOTE]I had to give you the double high 5 on that one.
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Had Ivy @ Nirvana. PSE YMMV. L8 A10 S10. Saw another girl as I was leaving. Nice. Maybe next time.
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[QUOTE=Mravcapo69]From reading this forum, I understand that most of you do prefer Asian ladies over Haole/Local girls. Some even avoid Haoles all together. I am just curious what some of you would do if presented with a "laundry list" of things Haole girls don’t do. Do you just get up, collect your house fee from Mama, and walk out; or do you go with the session anyways and never repeat? [/QUOTE]Ahhh memories.
One 'Haole' I had, didn't know how to massage. She literally walked all over me. After my cry of pain, she admitted she didn't know how to massage. So I had her lie down and gave her some tips and gave her a nice (or so she said) rubdown and light massage.
Another 'Haole' I had, I mentioned this in another thread. Was one where we ended up talking for 45 mins or so. Then she looked at the clock and was shocked that we didn't get to the. Err. Usual stuff. I said no prob, I was here to relax and I was relaxing with a nice person. Paid for FS because the conversation was totally worth it.
Although I did have some Haole's that thought that forplay was them getting naked. Or they convinced me that they were doing me a favor and should pay accordingly.
So. Like everything else. YMMV.
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Smile Spa
I am sure that you have all noticed that Smile Spa currently has a $20 off coupon in the Pennysaver good until the end of the month. They have also been bringing in new girls from places such as California. One girl told me a few weeks back that they are placing adds in some ethnic publication(s) to recruit girls. They have at least 10 women currently working there. I know that I saw a whole bunch of women sitting on the sofa the last time I was there. They also put mirrors in their hallways a few months ago which makes the place look more spacious (Hidden spy cameras? ...just kidding.) A month ago, there was one girl of Italian ancestry working there. I don't know if she is still there or not. Most of the other girls are Asian (i.e. Vietnamese and who knows what else). A number of the girls have only been there for a month or two.
In spite of all of these incentives (i.e. the discount and the selection), the place hasn't seemed particularly crowded when I have visited there. You guys may want to check it out. Has anyone else been there of late?
Incidentally, if any of you ladies from Smile Spa (or any other Spa) are reading this, make sure that you provide good service if you want to have repeat business. Otherwise you will find yourself spending most of your day just sitting on the sofas. If you want us to explain what good service is, just ask. All it takes is a few simple things and guy will be much more likely to come back to see you again.
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Recently I visited the same masseuse visited earlier this month by Asian975. She has a small ad ("Japanese Style Massage") in the Honolulu Advertiser classified section, and provides her telephone number in the ad. She works in her apartment, located on the fourth floor of the relatively new building at 215 North King Street, which is slightly Ewa of the River Street intersection and across from the makai side of Aala Park. The location is especially convenient for customers who work or live downtown. When you call for an appointment, she will tell you the apartment number. If you need to wash before or after the massage, there is a clean bathroom with a shower.
As posted by Asian975, this masseuse is "old" (I would estimate in her fifties) and neither particularly attractive nor unattractive for her age. I agree with Asian975 that the massage "was ok" and that "she does ball massage too." Just like Asian975, I paid $60 for the massage and $40 for a hand job. However, unlike Asian975, I did not receive a bj. Although I asked two times if anything beyond the hand job was available, she didn't offer any bj. Yet, she did permit touching of her body, including her breasts. In my experience she had a nice personality, was quite friendly, and provided a good hand job. However, it doesn't seem that a bj is automatically available for every customer.
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Ivy
[QUOTE=Joe Som]Had Ivy @ Nirvana. PSE YMMV. L8 A10 S10. Saw another girl as I was leaving. Nice. Maybe next time.[/QUOTE]
If this is the same woman that I called Poison Ivy over a year ago, then good for her--She has moved into the Ivy League. Maybe she has finally gotten her act together and has learned how to provide great service. Whether it is the same woman or not, it goes to prove a point. When you provide great service, you benefit by sometimes getting repeat business. You also generate new business via word of mouth.
Ladies, if your service is bad or mediocre, and we hear about it, we will avoid you. You aren't worth our time or hard-earned money. On the other hand, if we hear that you are going out of your way to provide excellent service (i.e. a GFE or a PSE or both), then we are more likely to pay you a visit. Even when business is slow, the best providers will still have customers.
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[QUOTE=Nightknight]I am sure that you have all noticed that Smile Spa currently has a $20 off coupon in the Pennysaver good until the end of the month. They have also been bringing in new girls from places such as California. One girl told me a few weeks back that they are placing adds in some ethnic publication(s) to recruit girls. They have at least 10 women currently working there. I know that I saw a whole bunch of women sitting on the sofa the last time I was there. They also put mirrors in their hallways a few months ago which makes the place look more spacious (Hidden spy cameras? ...just kidding.) A month ago, there was one girl of Italian ancestry working there. I don't know if she is still there or not. Most of the other girls are Asian (i.e. Vietnamese and who knows what else). A number of the girls have only been there for a month or two.
In spite of all of these incentives (i.e. the discount and the selection), the place hasn't seemed particularly crowded when I have visited there. You guys may want to check it out. Has anyone else been there of late?
Incidentally, if any of you ladies from Smile Spa (or any other Spa) are reading this, make sure that you provide good service if you want to have repeat business. Otherwise you will find yourself spending most of your day just sitting on the sofas. If you want us to explain what good service is, just ask. All it takes is a few simple things and guy will be much more likely to come back to see you again.[/QUOTE]I was there in early August and it wasnt bussy then also, but it was a day visit. There were 3-4 girls at the time. The mama looked hotter then most of the girls but acording to the girl I was with most of the providers where out shopping. I remember after the shower even my provider got lost because of the mirrors.
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Can any one rate princess at Pink that look like Michelle Wie?
Thanks thanks for the info Tommy.
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Ivy
Seen a Ivy long ago was'nt very good as I recall, seen this new Ivy 8, 9, 9
Hope this help.
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Silence is Golden
[QUOTE=Slypher]And Hinode. You lucky SOB. I envy you. I just want you to know that.[/QUOTE]
Slypher, Big Keoni (Keone) (sp),
Thanks for the compliments guys; you're both right; I am very lucky, and like most cool local guys, no need fo brag. I been through dry spells at times; but yeah, for the past 12 YEARS I'll say I've been a _VERY_ lucky man; I don't need Viagra, or none of that stuff (yet), I consider myself handsome; if 10 out of 10 providers say I have a decent sized/nice cock, I'll believe that; simply because all my EX's and current S.O. all say the same damn thing; I get really nice chicks, for long durations at a time; (Years) And I get to experience sensual GFE like I'm sure every guy wants to go home to one girl like that.
In the short year and a half since I stumbled upon this site/forum, the O.G.s have shown me the way as far as learning from the braddahs on who to avoid, who gives great service, etc.
I've learned real quick (too many times in drunken states) that there is NO GFE at AMPs, KBs, VBs, etc.
YMMV. I speak from my OWN personal experience.
So it's not about getting my heart broken when I wanna DFK, cuddle, what not; it's all business for the girls.
I understand 100% now.
That's my S.O.'s job. NOT a provider.
I think braddah Primal needs said it best once. If I'm crediting the wrong braddah, then I apologize; "LH should have a revolving door, God bless the women there!" Or something to that effect. Point is, even after a GREAT BBBJCIM from either Kyong, Sunny, or Choi, it's wham-bam-thank-you-sir-bye-bye-out-the-side-door. No kissing, No DFK, No hugging, No cuddling, No waiting around, lying down holding hands shit. Cya! Next!
I *HUMBLY* appreciate the compliments.
Humble Hinode :cool:
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Congrats from me, too!
[QUOTE=Hinode]
I think braddah Primal needs said it best once. If I'm crediting the wrong braddah, then I apologize; "LH should have a revolving door, God bless the women there!" Or something to that effect. Point is, even after a GREAT BBBJCIM from either Kyong, Sunny, or Choi, it's wham-bam-thank-you-sir-bye-bye-out-the-side-door. No kissing, No DFK, No hugging, No cuddling, No waiting around, lying down holding hands shit. Cya! Next!
I *HUMBLY* appreciate the compliments.
Humble Hinode :cool:[/QUOTE]
I think that was me. The revolving door part sounds familiar. I also call LH the McDonald's of KBs. It's not the best quality out there, but it's cheap and you know what you're going to get, because the same thing has been served there a gazillion times. "I'll have a number one, with Kyong, and a medium Heineken."
And congrats. Glad to hear that someone's having fun out there with their SO. Not going to Thailand was a bummer, but not so bad when you think about what you have at home, huh? You'll get there one day, and we'll be waiting for your detailed and entertaining reports.
Primal Needs
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re: Smile Spa
Personally, and as always YMMV, even recently from the latest edition of providers at this place I have consistently still not received decent service. In fact, it's a complete waste for me IMHO to even report anything specific from Smile Spa any more. Case-in-point today after work I passed by to give it another shot and check out the new stock. Instead I was greeted with rudely by the average looking local type who questioned me like they were LE. WTF. No wonder the noob providers who start out there eventually leave as quickly as they can and relocate to another AMP. Anyway, most of you whom are regulars are familiar with my straight forward reports. The level of service everywhere is more suspect than last year. I wish you well when you visit Smile Spa and hopefully after Smile Spa girls read this and other reports hopefully most of the girls will start providing better service for our hard-earned days income or weeks and months savings for others.
[QUOTE=Nightknight]I am sure that you have all noticed that Smile Spa currently has a $20 off coupon in the Pennysaver good until the end of the month. They have also been bringing in new girls from places such as California. One girl told me a few weeks back that they are placing adds in some ethnic publication(s) to recruit girls. They have at least 10 women currently working there. I know that I saw a whole bunch of women sitting on the sofa the last time I was there. They also put mirrors in their hallways a few months ago which makes the place look more spacious (Hidden spy cameras? ...just kidding.) A month ago, there was one girl of Italian ancestry working there. I don't know if she is still there or not. Most of the other girls are Asian (i.e. Vietnamese and who knows what else). A number of the girls have only been there for a month or two.
In spite of all of these incentives (i.e. the discount and the selection), the place hasn't seemed particularly crowded when I have visited there. You guys may want to check it out. Has anyone else been there of late?
Incidentally, if any of you ladies from Smile Spa (or any other Spa) are reading this, make sure that you provide good service if you want to have repeat business. Otherwise you will find yourself spending most of your day just sitting on the sofas. If you want us to explain what good service is, just ask. All it takes is a few simple things and guy will be much more likely to come back to see you again.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hinode]I've learned real quick (too many times in drunken states) that there is NO GFE at AMPs, KBs, VBs, etc.
YMMV. I speak from my OWN personal experience.
So it's not about getting my heart broken when I wanna DFK, cuddle, what not; it's all business for the girls.
I understand 100% now.
That's my S.O.'s job. NOT a provider.
I think braddah Primal needs said it best once. If I'm crediting the wrong braddah, then I apologize; "LH should have a revolving door, God bless the women there!" Or something to that effect. Point is, even after a GREAT BBBJCIM from either Kyong, Sunny, or Choi, it's wham-bam-thank-you-sir-bye-bye-out-the-side-door. No kissing, No DFK, No hugging, No cuddling, No waiting around, lying down holding hands shit. Cya! Next!
I *HUMBLY* appreciate the compliments.
Humble Hinode :cool:[/QUOTE]While I would add my compliment to your luck (and curse my own :p) I must also agree that YMMV. I've had hugging, cuddling, kissing (no DFK, but French at least) and lying down just savoring each other's presence. and I found that I get those things if I do treat the providers like people with feelings. Granted not right away, but usually after I become one of their 'regulars'.
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Please I need help
I started going to VIP, and it was great. I go there often, but now I'm curious about all the other AMP's. Please help me find some good ones, and please refer the women who do BBBJ's too.
Thanks
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Blonde at VIP.. info?
Hey guys,
New here. Was just wondering if anyone has any info on the blonde at VIPs with the big breasts. Id appreciate your input!
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Youngho]I started going to VIP, and it was great. I go there often, but now I'm curious about all the other AMP's. Please help me find some good ones, and please refer the women who do BBBJ's too.
Thanks[/QUOTE]You go to VIP often, yet you've never posted any reviews or anything else before? and now you expect us to reveal the hidden gems? Help us all out, give us some info on VIP, do some legwork and toftt at another amp, and RTFF.
Mahalo
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I think a quick RTFF is in order for Youngho and Secretagnt. Youngho more than Secret, but the point still stands.
You both have a single post under your belt, which means you're new here. That's all well and good, but I mean, both topics have been covered in this thread. The info might be out of date, but really, if you go down to VIP you can see who's got big tits and if you just browse through 5 or 6 pages, you'll see a couple of other AMPs that have decent providers.
On top of that. I don't trust either of you. Now. It may just be that I'm drunk while typing this. But single post question askers tend to feel like LE. I admit that I started with a single question. But at the same time, I had read the forums and asked questions about specific people in specific places.
Long story short. RTFF, go out and experience the world. Report back to us. Then we'll be more helpful.
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Vip Blond
I think you're talking about Ling Ling from Georgia.
Tall, slim, got her da kindas about year ago?
She was natural when I was with her. Looks too big now.
Fun girl, great personality.
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I've also had GFE at lots of AMPs ... Not in Hawaii yet, but ...
But yeah, it certainly wasn't anything I got right away. Usually multiple visits and lots of charm, plus some luck.
If I had to quantify it, I guess I'd say maybe 30 percent of girls are potential GFEs with some work. But certainly that could vary by region. The majority of my experiences, but not all, were in MI and GA
[QUOTE=Sdrom]While I would add my compliment to your luck (and curse my own :p) I must also agree that YMMV. I've had hugging, cuddling, kissing (no DFK, but French at least) and lying down just savoring each other's presence. and I found that I get those things if I do treat the providers like people with feelings. Granted not right away, but usually after I become one of their 'regulars'.[/QUOTE]
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gfe
Think the best GFE I had with an amp girl was a few years ago with Coco from Smile Spa. After becoming one of her regulars, always had good service with her. Could do any position with her, even would let you do anal for a bigger tip. Lotsa kissing and caressing. Would lay next to me after and talk and cuddle and eventually fall asleep...lol. Always had the knock at the door. And one thing you never see anymore, was that she always helped me get dress, even putting on my socks and shoes and tying them too. Then upon leaving a hug and kiss. :)
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[QUOTE=Kauai Guy #1]You go to VIP often, yet you've never posted any reviews or anything else before? and now you expect us to reveal the hidden gems? Help us all out, give us some info on VIP, do some legwork and toftt at another amp, and RTFF.
Mahalo[/QUOTE]Kauai,
You're right, young may be the LE.
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Coco
[QUOTE=Oysterogo]Think the best GFE I had with an amp girl was a few years ago with Coco from Smile Spa.[/quote]Coco, use to be at Pink? If that's her, Yea, she's fun. Gave me her #, never called. She use to wear black often.
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[QUOTE=Oysterogo]Think the best GFE I had with an amp girl was a few years ago with Coco from Smile Spa. After becoming one of her regulars, always had good service with her. Could do any position with her, even would let you do anal for a bigger tip. Lotsa kissing and caressing. Would lay next to me after and talk and cuddle and eventually fall asleep...lol. Always had the knock at the door. And one thing you never see anymore, was that she always helped me get dress, even putting on my socks and shoes and tying them too. Then upon leaving a hug and kiss. :)[/QUOTE]No anal. But yea, the cuddling, and falling asleep. (Pinky. I miss you.) and yes, there are AMPs that help you get dressed.
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CoCo @ Si Si's
Got a massage from CoCo @ Si Si's place the other week. Older chinese women. Decent massage for about 45 mins. Nice slow HJ to finish. Pd .5 for massage and .4 for tip. Allowed me to rub her butt but not her breasts.
I don't believe she is the same person as Jenny. Would not repeat. Will try others.
L=5
A=8
S=8