[QUOTE=TWill182;5934362]Not sure why Flynn I'm mentioned in this thread as she is not a BB girl.[/QUOTE]Agreed, she is amazing, a must see, but definitely not a BBFS girl if that's you thing!
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[QUOTE=TWill182;5934362]Not sure why Flynn I'm mentioned in this thread as she is not a BB girl.[/QUOTE]Agreed, she is amazing, a must see, but definitely not a BBFS girl if that's you thing!
[QUOTE=Slick562;5931741]She's a pleaser and guaranteed fun time. She looks young, I got lots of dfk, since the moment I walked in. She was very responsive to DATY, and I felt her performance better than Sophia.
Sophia will only let me daty for a minute before she starts getting very sensitive.
She's an excellent provider and I can see why she was popular in LA, I had a great time she offers cfs and BBFS same price.[/QUOTE]I saw Nicole for the first time right before she left L. A. For O. C. I made an hour trip to see her. Glad she is closer. Will definitely see her again.
Nicole provided a great experience. Kept telling me to slow down. Not sure if she wanted to extend the first round so there wouldn't be time for a second round. I'm usually done after one release, so it worked out. Even with skipping intro shower (just showered and first visit of the day for her), I was able to extend the fun almost to the end of the hour.
We did have a nice conversation. She made a comment about other girls charging $$ for same service. Seemed like she didn't like her special rate. I liked it, as I'll be back. I'd probably see her at $$ but she'd be further down my to-do list.
[QUOTE=GG1234;5941432]He has updated the site with a new message.
[B][url=https://losangeleskoreangirls.com/]losangeleskoreangirls.com[/url][/B][/QUOTE]I see limited benefits keeping that site up versus potential issues with LE. Boner's HYA list with URL links has more value than a site that just has links to K-org websites. There is a need for accurate information in today's k-girl environment full of re-brands so there is definitely a demand and opportunity. I've seen a successful model where dishonest orgs are blacklisted within their ecosystem; punished by not being allowed to advertise or be reviewed and where as "preferred" orgs are allowed to advertise and their girls be reviewed. Reviews of the girls of preferred businesses will also increase the level of the reviewers similar to HX. A similar model might rein in all the current k-chaos and benefit mongers.
[QUOTE=AsianHunter;5942368]I saw her before, she's very pretty!
Service was great but no DFK / LFk, so would not repeat![/QUOTE]Her smoke breath was so bad. LOL!
[QUOTE=HobbyWood;5942909]I saw Nicole for the first time right before she left L. A. For O. C. I made an hour trip to see her. Glad she is closer. Will definitely see her again.
Nicole provided a great experience. Kept telling me to slow down. Not sure if she wanted to extend the first round so there wouldn't be time for a second round. I'm usually done after one release, so it worked out. Even with skipping intro shower (just showered and first visit of the day for her), I was able to extend the fun almost to the end of the hour.
We did have a nice conversation. She made a comment about other girls charging $$ for same service. Seemed like she didn't like her special rate. I liked it, as I'll be back. I'd probably see her at $$ but she'd be further down my to-do list.[/QUOTE]What agency is Nicole w / in OC? I can't find her name on hx.
[QUOTE=VeryInterest;5945988]What agency is Nicole w / in OC? I can't find her name on hx.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.sweetasiangem.com/la-nicole[/URL]
If you want to go the HX route, the booker is [B][url=https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/PaPayaOC]PaPayaOC[/url][/B], but you won't find Nicole's pics under their albums. However, they're still in [B][url=https://www.humaniplex.com/photos/Preciousklove/134324/]PKL[/url][/B] and [B][url=https://www.humaniplex.com/photos/LAVixens/134325/]LAVixens[/url][/B]' albums.
[QUOTE=KalvinHobbs;5932581]Is she the same Zuri from NorCal. I see listed in TER but the review dates do overlap.[/QUOTE]Saw Zuri 2 weeks ago and you HAVE to experience those tits. Also, she has one of the best BBJs in the industry. But yes, a bit thicc.
[QUOTE=KGFever;5944196]Her smoke breath was so bad. LOL![/QUOTE]Responding to each point in this thread since I originally posted on Blue with LAKAngels, first, I'd guess she is not the girl in the picture, but she's similar looking. She looked pretty young to me, definitely not old, but since I'm 70+, nearly all of them look young to me. I did not sense any smoker's breath, so maybe it's an on-and-off thing with her. On reflection, I guess I didn't get any LFK or DFK, but at the time I didn't miss it. But I can still feel her tongue working my pole, FWIW.
But again, most important, her attitude. For me, sensing that my sex drive is a welcome, enjoyed presence in the room (and in the body) is what I'm there for.
Lift Her Up.
[QUOTE=GG1234;5946563][URL]https://www.sweetasiangem.com/la-nicole[/URL]
If you want to go the HX route, the booker is [B][url=https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/PaPayaOC]PaPayaOC[/url][/B], but you won't find Nicole's pics under their albums. However, they're still in [B][url=https://www.humaniplex.com/photos/Preciousklove/134324/]PKL[/url][/B] and [B][url=https://www.humaniplex.com/photos/LAVixens/134325/]LAVixens[/url][/B]' albums.[/QUOTE]Nicoles pics are under PapayaOC currently just click on there pics.
[URL]https://losangeleskoreangirls.com/[/URL]
Up and running again. Wonder why they went down for a bit.
Scrolling through the names and recognize a few from the other site. New to the OC so still trying to see which org to get verified with. Any org / providers recommendations for young providers.
[B][url=https://losangeleskoreangirls.com/]losangeleskoreangirls.com[/url][/B]
[QUOTE=KalvinHobbs;5951728]SAG and CGLA the same org?[/QUOTE]They are not the same org. LA has settled on a system where one girl may be advertised by multiple bookers. One booker, usually the one who is leasing the apartment, is the main one which all the other bookers have to coordinate with for any given girl. The girls believe that using multiple bookers gives them wider coverage in the total number of men they can reach. As you've noticed, this results in a ton of overlap between bookers. I don't know why this system came into existence in LA but not any other city.
[QUOTE=TnaStylez;5943155]There is a need for accurate information in today's k-girl environment full of re-brands so there is definitely a demand and opportunity. I've seen a successful model where dishonest orgs are blacklisted within their ecosystem; punished by not being allowed to advertise or be reviewed and where as "preferred" orgs are allowed to advertise and their girls be reviewed. Reviews of the girls of preferred businesses will also increase the level of the reviewers similar to HX. A similar model might rein in all the current k-chaos and benefit mongers.[/QUOTE]
When you posted this, it made me think back to the days of CV where the current system in LA would be impossible, because that site dictated a girl-centric advertising model where having 3-5 bookers per girl would be absurd. When CV disappeared, that created a huge void that no single site was able to fill. Eventually bookers took advertising into their own hands which led to the creation of many independent sites. Now that control of advertising has settled into the hands of bookers, it'll be very difficult to undo. There aren't any incentives for them to relinquish the power they gained.
[QUOTE=GG1234;5952112]They are not the same org. LA has settled on a system where one girl may be advertised by multiple bookers. One booker, usually the one who is leasing the apartment, is the main one which all the other bookers have to coordinate with for any given girl. The girls believe that using multiple bookers gives them wider coverage in the total number of men they can reach. As you've noticed, this results in a ton of overlap between bookers. I don't know why this system came into existence in LA but not any other city.
When you posted this, it made me think back to the days of CV where the current system in LA would be impossible, because that site dictated a girl-centric advertising model where having 3-5 bookers per girl would be absurd. When CV disappeared, that created a huge void that no single site was able to fill. Eventually bookers took advertising into their own hands which led to the creation of many independent sites. Now that control of advertising has settled into the hands of bookers, it'll be very difficult to undo. There aren't any incentives for them to relinquish the power they gained.[/QUOTE]This has become annoying as info for a girl may have like 3 or 4 names you have to search under if a booker has girl lisited in slightliy different name.
[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;5951290]Responding to each point in this thread since I originally posted on Blue with LAKAngels, first, I'd guess she is not the girl in the picture, but she's similar looking. She looked pretty young to me, definitely not old, but since I'm 70+, nearly all of them look young to me. I did not sense any smoker's breath, so maybe it's an on-and-off thing with her. On reflection, I guess I didn't get any LFK or DFK, but at the time I didn't miss it. But I can still feel her tongue working my pole, FWIW.
But again, most important, her attitude. For me, sensing that my sex drive is a welcome, enjoyed presence in the room (and in the body) is what I'm there for.
Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Agreed on Beauty in eye. However, she looks like 40+ with my Asian eye. LOL!
[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;5951623]Nicoles pics are under PapayaOC currently just click on there pics.[/QUOTE]Thanks, saw her in SAG. I'd put her late 40's 320 hr MSOG. Weak BJ like others have mentioned but nice lady.
[QUOTE=TnaStylez;5943155]I've seen a successful model where dishonest orgs are blacklisted within their ecosystem; punished by not being allowed to advertise or be reviewed and where as "preferred" orgs are allowed to advertise and their girls be reviewed. Reviews of the girls of preferred businesses will also increase the level of the reviewers similar to HX. A similar model might rein in all the current k-chaos and benefit mongers.[/QUOTE]I thought about this some more, and I think that advertising and reviewing cannot effectively coexist in the same site. The purpose of reviews is to bring truth to advertising, but if you make your money through advertising, something is going to have to give. A recent example of this is PD, where they've long been accused of allowing the deletion of negative (but not necessarily inaccurate) reviews. As if that weren't bad enough, on June 11th, they're making you upgrade your account to VIP to read reviews whereas they are currently free to read as long as you're signed in. See this discussion for details. Click on "View Original Post".
[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;5951849]Looks like PD will start charging 66 a week that will be a min 264 a month to be able to read full reviews! WTF!![/QUOTE]My conclusion is that you can be an advertising site or a review site but not both. Advertising will dominate if you try.
[B]Order out of K-Chaos[/B]
The current chaos in the K-girl scene comes from the info on K-girls being spread out and duplicated all over the place, and it's the worst in LA due to how many bookers there are per girl. This is a new problem relative to rebranding and fake info which has been a problem for as long as this business has existed. Also, I don't think it's possible to get the bookers to stop advertising independently. It's too entrenched now, and there's no benefit for them to stop. This takes advertising off the table, and any potential solution would have to be review-centric.
A solution that comes to mind is to aggregate the public data we have into one place, but that's easier said than done. There's no consistency in how K-girls are advertised, so a lot of web scraping code would have to be written and maintained. A database would also have to be designed and setup to store the scraped data and any post-scrape analysis. Things like the [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands]Kgirls Rebrands[/url][/B] thread in the LA forum could be 90%+ automated, but it would require a lot of code to be written and maintained.
With this data collected, you'd be able to have a girl-centric view where you could search for a girl and find out everything we know about her. The bookers would become a secondary detail under such a system. Review data could also be aggregated. We could link to TER. We could even link to posts in this forum. It'd be a lot of work though, and I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
[QUOTE=GG1234;5956426]
The current chaos in the K-girl scene comes from the info on K-girls being spread out and duplicated all over the place, and it's the worst in LA due to how many bookers there are per girl. This is a new problem relative to rebranding and fake info which has been a problem for as long as this business has existed. Also, I don't think it's possible to get the bookers to stop advertising independently. It's too entrenched now, and there's no benefit for them to stop. This takes advertising off the table, and any potential solution would have to be review-centric.
.[/QUOTE]The multiple booker per girl system is quite interesting. The other day, a new booker which I never dealt with said I was already verified and good to go. Which begs the question, who vouched for me and what information was shared? I can't help but be concerned about this as it only takes one bad actor to ruin lives (ie: doxxing clients or LEO obtaining from a sloppy booker).
But I understand these are the risks. Just can't help but be more mindful.
[QUOTE=GG1234;5956426][B]Order out of K-Chaos[/B]A solution that comes to mind is to aggregate the public data we have into one place, but that's easier said than done. There's no consistency in how K-girls are advertised, so a lot of web scraping code would have to be written and maintained. A database would also have to be designed and setup to store the scraped data and any post-scrape analysis. Things like the [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands]Kgirls Rebrands[/url][/B] thread in the LA forum could be 90%+ automated, but it would require a lot of code to be written and maintained.
With this data collected, you'd be able to have a girl-centric view where you could search for a girl and find out everything we know about her. The bookers would become a secondary detail under such a system. Review data could also be aggregated. We could link to TER. We could even link to posts in this forum. It'd be a lot of work though, and I'm not sure it's worth the effort.[/QUOTE]Yeah, good luck in getting people to do this. It's only "chaos" and a problem if one thinks that everything should be organized, consistent, easy to find, and comprehensive. That's the "system" out there, and customers figure it out and adjust accordingly. People who try to "fix" the kgirl business model and the way they operate is a futile exercise. One just has to learn how to navigate through this with the available information.
Saw Alexa with KStars last night. Older, average body, 6.5/10 face. Kept telling me she loved me but got BBFS no upcharge. YMMV.
Got my some time with IU, pics were deceptive but we already know that. What we come for is the top notch service.
She didn't speak much English, so in these situations I work on being extra affectionate (little kisses on her back or the top of her head while she is cleaning me). I've found it creates a tone for the session where they dovetail off of that and reciprocate all the little things that make GFE awesome (one I loved was our hands interlocked during BBBJ).
She was fantastic, others have said she takes her time, which she does, but she is still very efficient. I was concerned I was close to going over my hr, but at the end of an amazing sensual 2 pop session, I still had 5 min to spare.
We only did 1 position (cg), which worked for me since I was kind of on a chemical buzz. She gave an amazing sensual BBBJ which never felt like I was going to pop, but just felt amazing throughout. Once she climbed on top, her technique of fucking my tip with the occasional full insertion was too much for me to hold on. I told her I was cumming and she locked me inside of her working every last drop. It was incredible.
Now I don't know what you all think of this, but I found it hot. She didn't rinse out. She still had all my kiddies floating around in her while massaging me and getting me ready for round two which served as it's own kind of lube.
Now, usually my "glass dick" will attempt a 2nd round but never complete just because the amount of stimulation needed to get me there is too much for a girl to handle. To put it in perspective, I spent a whole hr with JuicyWetMary once in this state and couldn't even pop once, and she worked hard the whole hr. Was still hella fun to get worked like that though. Not IU. She worked my dick with so much fast stimulation that I came so hard for round 2. There was a point where I was almost ready to call it when she must have sensed something and kicked into high gear. And again she locked me in her so well that I didn't pop out of her until I had gone soft. The feeling of my dick popping out after slowly shrinking with every pleasure pulse was very satisfying. Only other person so far to deliver the 2nd pop in my state was Scarlett. The k-girls are special.
Def a repeat for me. I do wish she was younger, but then the skill level likely wouldn't be what it is here. She looked to be a plain early 40's, short af but was a hell of a fuckdoll. I would love a doubles session with her and Scarlett, but I can't ustify what the cost of what an msog hr BB session would be if the base is $ x 7 (more than 2 individual hrs.).
Treat her well boys.
[QUOTE=Egarii3;5956631]The multiple booker per girl system is quite interesting. The other day, a new booker which I never dealt with said I was already verified and good to go. Which begs the question, who vouched for me and what information was shared? I can't help but be concerned about this as it only takes one bad actor to ruin lives (ie: doxxing clients or LEO obtaining from a sloppy booker).
But I understand these are the risks. Just can't help but be more mindful.[/QUOTE]Just like the girls can choose to go by different names, especially on different sites, I think some bookers have multiple handles, or at least work for a larger group that arranges some stuff (apartments / transportation / visas etc).
[QUOTE=EuphoriaSeeker;5964529]Got my some time with IU, pics were deceptive but we already know that. What we come for is the top notch service.
Treat her well boys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review, but that upcharge for BBFS is a killer.
Any intel on Zayla with LAK / IKM?
[QUOTE=EuphoriaSeeker;5964529]Got my some time with IU, pics were deceptive but we already know that. What we come for is the top notch service.
She didn't speak much English, so in these situations I work on being extra affectionate (little kisses on her back or the top of her head while she is cleaning me). I've found it creates a tone for the session where they dovetail off of that and reciprocate all the little things that make GFE awesome (one I loved was our hands interlocked during BBBJ).
She was fantastic, others have said she takes her time, which she does, but she is still very efficient. I was concerned I was close to going over my hr, but at the end of an amazing sensual 2 pop session, I still had 5 min to spare.
We only did 1 position (cg), which worked for me since I was kind of on a chemical buzz. She gave an amazing sensual BBBJ which never felt like I was going to pop, but just felt amazing throughout. Once she climbed on top, her technique of fucking my tip with the occasional full insertion was too much for me to hold on. I told her I was cumming and she locked me inside of her working every last drop. It was incredible.
Now I don't know what you all think of this, but I found it hot. She didn't rinse out. She still had all my kiddies floating around in her while massaging me and getting me ready for round two which served as it's own kind of lube.[/QUOTE]May I ask if you provided additional upcharges? I saw IU and we connected well but when I asked for entry without the hat, she said no and I mentioned I would add more tips and she still denied. Also didn't want a second pop out of me. I was very respectful, clean, and and young and in good shape. Please advise.
[QUOTE=Thud1;5379658]Would someone please photoshop her nipples back on her.[/QUOTE]At least MKC remembered one of them. Smh.
[QUOTE=OcWaveRider;5966483]May I ask if you provided additional upcharges? I saw IU and we connected well but when I asked for entry without the hat, she said no and I mentioned I would add more tips and she still denied. Also didn't want a second pop out of me. I was very respectful, clean, and and young and in good shape. Please advise.[/QUOTE]I paid $40 extra for 2nd pop.
[QUOTE=OcWaveRider;5966483]May I ask if you provided additional upcharges? I saw IU and we connected well but when I asked for entry without the hat, she said no and I mentioned I would add more tips and she still denied. Also didn't want a second pop out of me. I was very respectful, clean, and and young and in good shape. Please advise.[/QUOTE]If you want extras, you need to book them with manager. He will tell you the prices (I. E. +100 for BBFS and +40 for second pop). Offering the girl a random tip may or may not get you what you are seeking. Best just to book it and be sure you get what you want.
$100 for BBFS and no negotiating. I tried LOL.
[QUOTE=OcWaveRider;5966483]May I ask if you provided additional upcharges? I saw IU and we connected well but when I asked for entry without the hat, she said no and I mentioned I would add more tips and she still denied. Also didn't want a second pop out of me. I was very respectful, clean, and and young and in good shape. Please advise.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoKipper;5967425]$100 for BBFS and no negotiating. I tried LOL.[/QUOTE]Not during the session, before the session begins with the booker.
Anyone know if the diva with luckykladies on hx is diva / Emily? Or if diva / Emily is around somewhere in the oc / la? I saw her a while back when she was with mkc, hope to see her again.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=GoKipper;5967425]$100 for BBFS and no negotiating. I tried LOL.[/QUOTE]Iu speaks minimal english. It's hard to communicate and tell her what you want.
Ace / Diva / Amora is back Friday with CG at 460 bb+msog. Sheesh.
Been almost 2 years since I've boycotted upcharge girls and agency.
[QUOTE=JungleFun;5968153]Been almost 2 years since I've boycotted upcharge girls and agency.[/QUOTE]And, boycotting never works cause your just another fish in a big Pond!
You're choice not to see a girl (s) while all the other fish or new fish will see her.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;5967835]Ace / Diva / Amora is back Friday with CG at 460 bb+msog. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]Is she as beautiful as Sexy Shannon was? Or does she Greek for that price? What is the hype on her that commands such a price?
[QUOTE=PePe44;5968716]Is she as beautiful as Sexy Shannon was? Or does she Greek for that price? What is the hype on her that commands such a price?[/QUOTE]She's known for her BBBJ and overall stamina / service. No other hype really, those have been the going rates for upcharges girls for the past year or so if you're adding all upcharges for the hour.
[QUOTE=JungleFun;5968153]Been almost 2 years since I've boycotted upcharge girls and agency.[/QUOTE]It works bro! When girls are advertising duo's and having a thousand bookers just for one girl you know they are suffering they are just tying to strong hold their high upcharge pricing I have seen many of these girls in different cities across the USA for literally half the price they charge here in the LA / OC. Lucky for me my company pays for my travels so I save money. If we all united like in a mongers union believe me they would drop their price but every single monger would have to be in on it.
[QUOTE=BastardChorum;5968787]She's known for her BBBJ and overall stamina / service. No other hype really, those have been the going rates for upcharges girls for the past year or so if you're adding all upcharges for the hour.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information. Understand now.
BBBJ is a great sub topic! Depending on the style you prefer there are many providers that offer their own style and sometimes it may or may not be in your preference.
Jane KStrs does a great job but she literally grips and grabs balls like trying to twist them off. My junk and ball sac felt taxed after a session with her wincing in between some painful segments and followed by some pleasure. Bulma is a pro and rides that fine line of award winning BBBJ also but a tad forceful also but both know how to finish you off when they need to.
IU had a soft and methodical BBBJ but relentlessly non-stop. If you can hold out with the delicate attack good on ya.
Loved Zuri with her hand and head twist. Something about the vortex in her mouth is something to try. Also Sophia who has a hand in her throat that squeezes in the DT. Really stunning.
Same Diva that was at MKC?
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;5967835]Ace / Diva / Amora is back Friday with CG at 460 bb+msog. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]