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[QUOTE=Admin2;1772078]Welcome to my fucking world![/QUOTE]A2,
Don't see how you blokes deal with some of these wankers. The "Octagon" is one thing but in general you have to deal with 100, 000 of us from state to state, city to city. My hats off to you guys.
Lex
[QUOTE=AdamP469;1772053]My loss, I know, but when I see one of your posts that runs multiple paragraphes, I'm more than likely going to skip it.[/QUOTE]I am crestfallen and will most likely lose sleep this evening.
I did not mean to start the flame war again about the penthouse reviews.
Yes, we all know some of you love them, we all know some of you hate them, and we all know most of us could care less about everyone's personal opinion on the issue.
So, let's get back to that 'nick the dick' manscaping incident, which, unfortunately, is rather comical. I have heard that laser hair removal is relatively painless if you use the numbing gel, and you can become 'baby-smooth' after only 3 or 4 sessions.
[QUOTE=LexintonLuther; 1772146]Please use the scroll bar until you break it from holding it down so long, but I am happy to hear that you wasn't being held hostage and beside it's not just writing about "hobbying", its living it and telling the experience how it happened. You say your "not into spectator sports" But I see it one of two ways, either you are really new to this game (due to your post count) or you are a "lurker" and don't bring anything to the forum (other than opinion) and just "hobby" off everyone's efforts to build this data base of info. Again if you are not into spectator sports, get off the side line and take the field and then your opinion might be worth something other than entertainment and you have 19 post but you only have spoke of a hand full of providers and double tapped Molly with more post of opinion that hobbying, are you sure your not a spectator? (Molly is awesome) , but I hate to break it to you mate, but there are more providers out there than just Molly.
Lex[/QUOTE]First of all, there are other sites on which to report business dealings with providers beside this one, so somebody's report counts here may not be the whole story. So what's my whole story? In Jan. 2012, I began reading reviews to try and understand how to get in touch with a provider and how to carry out pay for play without getting arrested or ripped off. By Mar. '12, I found a provider I was interested in seeing, but things didn't work out at that time. It wasn't until May '12 that I found another provider I wanted to see, and that is when I finally got started. So in the year I have been at this, I've shelled out roughly 8 grand. I've seen six different providers. I've reported on four of those six here, but the two others aren't part of USAsg, so I reviewed them on the other sites where I found their profiles, instead. When you do the math on that and consider that some of my visits were over night visits, and some of that amount included tips and gifts, I see a provider roughly once every other week. And, yes, I do have a favorite provider who got the bulk of that business, and that is because I have certain requirements that most providers don't seem to meet.
1 I want a GFE provider in my age range, which means since I'm in my 30s, she should be, too. Three of the providers I saw were in their 20s, and since visits with 2 of those 3 providers were not very enjoyable, I've decided if a provider is less than 30, I'm not interested.
2. She needs to have an incall, and I don't like incalls at hotels. I've had half a dozen meetings at hotel incalls, and unless it is a repeat visit, I find the beginning of the meeting to be nerve wracking. Maybe I'm paranoid from lack of experience, but each time I went into a hotel to meet a new provider, I was half expecting to either wind up in handcuffs or getting battered by somebody's pimp. I've never tried the SW scene, nor do I want to. It seems too risky, and it sounds like it's a crap shoot when it comes to getting your money's worth.
3. I prefer independent providers. Again, the fear of a predatory pimp or angry boyfriend or angry husband comes into play there.
4. She needs to be available late night. The time that I'm free to hobby is pretty limited. I usually only have time to hobby from 2am to 6am. That alone drastically reduces the pool of available providers. I've tried scheduling time off from work to have a pre-booked appointment twice, and both times, the appointment fell through at the last minute, so I'm not wasting time doing that anymore.
5. Lastly, I prefer if the provider is doing this because she wants to, not because she has to. Yeah, I know, I shouldn't bother thinking about that, but I do. I'the rather not be taking advantage of some poor girl who's got a serious drug addiction.
Yes, when I've posted opinions, I generally keep them in the in the Rants, Raves, and Opinions thread, where they belong. Sorry if I haven't 'paid my dues, ' enough, and you think I shouldn't have any opinions about hobbying yet, but it only took my first visit with a provider to know how to hand a woman money and to find out what I could get out of the transaction in return. Therefore, I don't see why certain people here seem to take this so seriously and get so worked up about it. Hobbying as a lifestyle? If that works for you, go for it. As stated above, I'm averaging a visit with a provider about once every other week. To me, that is using a service periodically, not a lifestyle. But then again, maybe I should consider getting my hair cut a lifestyle, too? I guess I should start posting reports on my visits to my barber on Yelp, or something. Since many senior members are so territorial and think that they own this site and that they own the hobby in general, and since many of them obviously define themselves through the hobby, fine, you win. I'll give into the peer pressure and keep my opinions to myself from now on. I'm just not in your league, nor do I want to be.
[QUOTE=AdamP469; 1772592]First of all, there are other sites on which to report business dealings with providers beside this one, so somebody's report counts here may not be the whole story. So what's my whole story? In Jan. 2012, I began reading reviews to try and understand how to get in touch with a provider and how to carry out pay for play without getting arrested or ripped off. By Mar. '12, I found a provider I was interested in seeing, but things didn't work out at that time. It wasn't until May '12 that I found another provider I wanted to see, and that is when I finally got started. So in the year I have been at this, I've shelled out roughly 8 grand. I've seen six different providers. I've reported on four of those six here, but the two others aren't part of USAsg, so I reviewed them on the other sites where I found their profiles, instead. When you do the math on that and consider that some of my visits were over night visits, and some of that amount included tips and gifts, I see a provider roughly once every other week. And, yes, I do have a favorite provider who got the bulk of that business, and that is because I have certain requirements that most providers don't seem to meet.
1 I want a GFE provider in my age range, which means since I'm in my 30s, she should be, too. Three of the providers I saw were in their 20s, and since visits with 2 of those 3 providers were not very enjoyable, I've decided if a provider is less than 30, I'm not interested.
2. She needs to have an incall, and I don't like incalls at hotels. I've had half a dozen meetings at hotel incalls, and unless it is a repeat visit, I find the beginning of the meeting to be nerve wracking. Maybe I'm paranoid from lack of experience, but each time I went into a hotel to meet a new provider, I was half expecting to either wind up in handcuffs or getting battered by somebody's pimp. I've never tried the SW scene, nor do I want to. It seems too risky, and it sounds like it's a crap shoot when it comes to getting your money's worth.
3. I prefer independent providers. Again, the fear of a predatory pimp or angry boyfriend or angry husband comes into play there.
4. She needs to be available late night. The time that I'm free to hobby is pretty limited. I usually only have time to hobby from 2am to 6am. That alone drastically reduces the pool of available providers. I've tried scheduling time off from work to have a pre-booked appointment twice, and both times, the appointment fell through at the last minute, so I'm not wasting time doing that anymore.
5. Lastly, I prefer if the provider is doing this because she wants to, not because she has to. Yeah, I know, I shouldn't bother thinking about that, but I do. I'the rather not be taking advantage of some poor girl who's got a serious drug addiction.
Yes, when I've posted opinions, I generally keep them in the in the Rants, Raves, and Opinions thread, where they belong. Sorry if I haven't 'paid my dues, ' enough, and you think I shouldn't have any opinions about hobbying yet, but it only took my first visit with a provider to know how to hand a woman money and to find out what I could get out of the transaction in return. Therefore, I don't see why certain people here seem to take this so seriously and get so worked up about it. Hobbying as a lifestyle? If that works for you, go for it. As stated above, I'm averaging a visit with a provider about once every other week. To me, that is using a service periodically, not a lifestyle. But then again, maybe I should consider getting my hair cut a lifestyle, too? I guess I should start posting reports on my visits to my barber on Yelp, or something. Since many senior members are so territorial and think that they own this site and that they own the hobby in general, and since many of them obviously define themselves through the hobby, fine, you win. I'll give into the peer pressure and keep my opinions to myself from now on. I'm just not in your league, nor do I want to be.[/QUOTE]I choose using provider due to I enjoy it and I can have what I want without the commitment or the drama of relationships. I have a great life, very deep pockets and have done more than most in a couple of life times. It all comes down to money my friend even in the dating world. I have had women that were just was after my money or only liked how I dressed or the cars I drove. So I just cut to the chase of the matter and for me it's a win, I get what I want and a provider is compensated very well for her services. I agree with some of your points of views on knowing exactly what you want in a provider. I also have a list of requirements when I see a provider and I will walk out in a blink of an eye if my gut tells me it's not going to work out (my little head never makes the choice for me) I explain exactly what I want and if agreed, we proceed if not, I bid them a good day. I prefer to see higher end providers and I know how costly it can be and the service is always 5 stars with no drama or worries. But usually I only have the opportunity to see those during my travels, or I arrange (with an escort service) for them to visit my home, because we rarely have the high end providers come to my city and I do enjoy some of the local providers when I am at home.
You said 'So in the year I have been at this, I've shelled out roughly 8 grand' and 'I'm just not in your league, nor do I want to be' but if truth be told, You are in my league (give or take a few thousand) with that kind of support to your playtime. During my travels, I prefer to have a companion to spend my time with (business and vacations) and it's usually for a couple of days none stop. I use providers for more than sex as well. In my world, I have used beautiful intelligent and charming providers as dates for dinners with clients and it works out very well as a distraction of a clients spouse or to get the attention of a would be client to close the deal. Sometimes In my world success, means married with 2 kids and being seen as UN attached can be a bad thing. Enough about my life. You placed a few items on the table and I thought it was only fair that I do the same. You read as someone that has a standard set of knowing just what he wants from a provider and I will no longer give you flack over it. We all play this game and have more in common than you think.
Lex
[QUOTE=AdamP469;1772053]Of course nobody forced me to read your reports. My loss, I know, but when I see one of your posts that runs multiple paragraphes, I'm more than likely going to skip it.[/QUOTE]You need to look at the bigger picture. Any intel on a provider that is real is good intel and will help all of us in the long run. It has already been argued at great length who likes long detailed reports and who does not. Skip over it without reading, ignore user function are obvious responses. For the guys that like to read those reports it generates business for that girl. It almost serves as an advertisement for her. It could be enough of a push to get someone off their ass and go see her looking for a similar experience. That in turn generates more reviews on the girl. Those reviews will most likely be the type that you prefer to read because not many users write like PhatDATY (Why do some people call him Phat Daddy? It's PhatDayAtTheY. Not sure why that bothers me I don't even know the guy). So as part of the community you are indirectly benefiting from his posts. I'm just trying to give you another perspective to look at it from.
For all of you who like his posts and feel the need to "Reply with quote". Please don't quote the entire review. It takes up way to much space and if someone chose to use the ignore function to avoid those posts they can still see them if you quote. I recommend trimming the quote down to just your favorite part or whatever you find most important. It might even help the guys who don't want to read the whole post by giving them the cliff notes version.
[QUOTE=Admin2; 1772075]That's not why I think you're a fag.
[url]http://videosift.com/video/South-Park-The-difference-between-gays-and-fags[/url][/QUOTE]You know me too well. I drive a BMW and that's exactly what I do to people trying to make the left turn at the light.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1772590]I did not mean to start the flame war again about the penthouse reviews.
So, let's get back to that 'nick the dick' manscaping incident, which, unfortunately, is rather comical. I have heard that laser hair removal is relatively painless if you use the numbing gel, and you can become 'baby-smooth' after only 3 or 4 sessions.[/QUOTE]No need to apologize. Your efforts introduced a new member to "The Octagon". I kind of like this LexingtonLuther guy. He thinks before he posts and has some poignant opinions / points of view to add to the forum.
I'm glad to report my equipment has fully recovered from the nick and is in full operational condition once again. Somehow I get the feeling if I went to a laser hair removal place and asked them about a cock and balls treatment they would show me the door. I got a PM informing me about this little jewel:
[url]http://www.usa.philips.com/c/body-groomers/bodygroom-premium-bg2040_34/prd/en/[/url]
Has good reviews on various sites and looks like it's well built. I'll let you know how it works on my next grooming session.
[QUOTE=AdamP469;1772592]Yes, when I've posted opinions, I generally keep them in the in the Rants, Raves, and Opinions thread, where they belong. Sorry if I haven't 'paid my dues, ' enough, and you think I shouldn't have any opinions about hobbying yet. I'll give into the peer pressure and keep my opinions to myself from now on.[/QUOTE]Don't be like that man. If you post in the rants and raves section you have to expect to take some lumps. If you are giving your opinion on something whether you are a senior or regular doesn't mean shit. The fact of the matter is if your an asshole when your a regular member just keep posting and you can be an asshole as a senior member. If your cool as a regular member you will probably be a cool senior. For most users the only thing being a senior member counts for is giving specific intel over a pm or if we should take your report on a provider with a grain of salt. It's a trust thing nothing else. Some seniors will use it as a bulling tool but if they do you probably shouldn't engage them anyway.
Before A2 made this section "The Octagon" I never read it. It was just a place for people to come ***** about stuff. I don't like listening to people ***** so I thought of it as a SPAM filter. There is still bitching here but its also a place for people to talk about different things. Sometimes you get drama, sometimes you get useful information, sometimes you get naked pictures of Molly and Dawn at a beach house. It's a wild card section. As for me, I don't like drama. If I take your side on an argument its because I think you are right that one time. I'm not interested in joining your click to gang up on some other faction you are at war with. Chances are I will agree with that other faction at some point when I feel like you are wrong. I know a lot of other people on here feel the same way. If you poke someone in a click expect the rest of them to gang up on you. I might come to help you out because I hate that but don't let them get to you. I am a senior but even if I wasn't I wouldn't take shit from anyone and I sure as hell wouldn't let them intimidate me. It's an anonymous user board. There is only one person on here that I know and have a real life friendship with. Other then that there are users that I respect for their valuable intel, solid opinions and lack of douche bagery. I trimmed my quotes down but this still turned out to be a very long post. If you made it to the end I congratulate you. If I saw a post this long I would think "What a douche bag" and skip it.
[QUOTE=EricDraven;1772814]Those reviews will most likely be the type that you prefer to read because not many users write like PhatDATY (Why do some people call him Phat Daddy? It's PhatDayAtTheY. Not sure why that bothers me I don't even know the guy).[/QUOTE]Mr Draven,
Thank you for your kind and wise words. I like writing them, and some people like reading them, and most of the gals enjoy them and do report it helps with business. I just find it weird that some of these fellows get their jockstrap in a twist over it. As you said, not all can or want to write that way. I just get a tad irritated when they try to lecture me about it. I don't go off on the folks that write those "I had a friend that had a dream and it was a good time," two sentences, so why do those folks seem to have a need to try to change my approach, when it would never occur to me to tell them they need to write longer, more elegant reviews.
Personally, I think diversity in writing styles and viewpoints is a good thing-helps paint a bigger picture.
There are providers that love them and encourage me to go into full graphic "fifty shades of grey" detail, and then there are some that prefer a more softcore PG-13 romantic one, like Delicious Dawn, and probably Molly, but she still won't fuck me, so we will never know. We may need to get a petition circulating for Molly to give in give me a chance before waiting for hell to freeze over.
LOL!
It would be a fun review to write, and I would in this one case, I would give it to her for approval before ever posting it.
Oddly, some folks seem to think I write nothing but flowery, glowing reports that make the woman seem like a goddess. I would submit to them, that I am very honest in my reviews. When down south most of May, I wrote two scathing reviews in a row, because the experience was horrible. They are on the Georgia boards. I could not wait to get back up here, where I think most guys take it for granted, but we have an awesome set of ladies to choose from at very fair prices, as opposed to the cities down south where you will pay twice as much for half the service and quality.
As to the handle:
P=Pretty.
H=Hot.
A=And.
T=Tasty.
D=Dining.
A=At.
T=The.
Y=The Y being the place where her legs part to reveal her blossom of sweet nectar (yup, big Georgia O'Keefe fan)
The nick name was given to me by a provider about 20 years ago, because she said I ate pussy like a lesbian, but with the gusto and aggressiveness of a man. In fact, every time I went down on her she would giggle because it reminded her of the Bill Hicks (that should date me) comedy bit: Goatboy.
[b]"Tie me to your headboard headboard, throw your legs over my shoulders, and let me wear you like a feedbag!"[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpEy-LYo3vg[/url]
It really doesn't bother my if folks bastardize it the variety of the ways it has been done over the years. I know what it means, and most of the ladies do as well, so that is all that matters.
[QUOTE=Gitanacv; 1771155]Since there were so many copycat / counterfeit / illegal / bogus supplies of Viagra being produced around the world Pfizer has decided to sell directly to the public now. You can get it at:
[url]http://www.viagra.com/index.aspx[/url]
Obviously, that is the way to go. No guessing this way.[/QUOTE]You need a prescription to get it direct from Pfizer. The others you don't, but yes, you have to worry about counterfeits.
[QUOTE=EricDraven;1771520]I don't know how many of you manscape but I was doing it today and I nicked my dick.[/QUOTE]Yikes! I just do the ol' trim with scissors bit. I'm hairy enough elsehwere that it looks odd if I go hairless. :P The frank doesn't have much to talk about but the beans do. I just trim it short. I don't like any ministrations there, so I don't worry about it.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;1772590]I did not mean to start the flame war again about the penthouse reviews.[/QUOTE]I think starting a flame war is exactly what you wanted to do. Anything to take all our minds off the fact that we're all hanging out waiting for those action shots of you and Dawn at the lake. You think a little flame war is going to make us for about that? HA!
LOL.
Have a great day.
Dz
"asked them about a cock and balls treatment they would show me the door" Mate, I am sure they would request you depart. I am glad you are back in fighting form (LOL) I have never laughed so hard in my life Sir Adam. Thank you for a good laugh mate. My time here in the Cincinnati: Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon" is over. I only stopped in due to one of PD post catching my attention. I do respect other members point of views, Sometimes more need to be added to the "table" for a good understanding of a different point of view. I bid you all safe travels and happy dreams.
Lex
I am willing to be the sacrificial lamb to proof your point. When can we start the sessions? ! Soon I hope before you escape back out of town!
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1772590]I did not mean to start the flame war again about the penthouse reviews.
Yes, we all know some of you love them, we all know some of you hate them, and we all know most of us could care less about everyone's personal opinion on the issue.
So, let's get back to that 'nick the dick' manscaping incident, which, unfortunately, is rather comical. I have heard that laser hair removal is relatively painless if you use the numbing gel, and you can become 'baby-smooth' after only 3 or 4 sessions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1767538]Just a little tease for all you fine gents.
Dawn and Molly on our soiree last week at Provider Paradise aka LakeHouse.
We apologize, but we were too busy with our 'bucket lists' for many pictures. Time flies when you are having fun! Hopefully the two of us can get back up there in June for a hot and sexy outdoor duo photo shoot!
Kisses,
Molly.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]249514[/ATTACH][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dweezil;1772861]I think starting a flame war is exactly what you wanted to do. Anything to take all our minds off the fact that we're all hanging out waiting for those action shots of you and Dawn at the lake. You think a little flame war is going to make us for about that? HA![/QUOTE]There was that one picture. It popped up late for some reason so if you didn't backtrack you may have missed it. I think A2 delayed the post to try and keep the picture for himself. I quoted it so you guys can find it easier. But still, only one picture. Come on girls. Share the love.
[QUOTE=LexintonLuther;1772887]My time here in the Cincinnati: Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon" is over. I only stopped in due to one of PD post catching my attention.[/QUOTE]I will personally lead the DDOS attack on both your inbox here, and I will get Vlad and Serge the Russian kids that do write our code in between taking down banking sites to spam your real inbox. (Ok I would never release private info, that was an empty threat but you get the point).
I enjoy reading your posts and this is the only thread I read, read on a regular basis. You must stay my friend or I'll change your user title to "twink" that isn't an empty threat.
Ok it was, but I wish you would keep hanging around, I enjoy your posts.
A2
Most don't care what the provider they see uses the money given for, some like to make sure they are on drugs so they can do whatever they want. Hmmm, DATY, really, just saying cause most will do what ever it takes and when a guy goes without a cover, come on they know they will leave sum, no matter how good you are or think you are. I've been with one, please no pm's not going to say who but first she was so fing high she didn't care if I was covered, nasty, then after 20 plus minutes she said cum in me if you like, again really? Now I know a lot of you guys don't care and some even think it's cute, IT AIN'T! If your dating a person that's not just about you or a provider at least make sure she waits a day or say 5 but dope is the case in 90% so they can't wait. So at least respect the other guys that enjoy to play and not with your cum you nasty Mother. Swear if I catch a guy doing this, I'll do us all a favor. Not a threat a promise. I personally don't DATY much because the ladies have seen several that day and to me, that's nasty, sorry if I offend, but fuckin yuck! But let it be known for you older guys that ain't hip, there are a lot on many different kinds of dope, they can hide most well, but let's be honest and the others know and use this to get what they want, Yippy for you, you nasty shits. LOL ok done venting for the night. Please I'll say it again, don't pm me unless you know a provider that's really nasty enough to go bare for all. If it's just some shit, I'll just blast on you, and not with a key board, please play and be safe fellow mongers, Dad is out till I wake up.