Was bored today so I made a could passes on Holloway. Super dead now. Saw 2 black girls but they were being lazy standing up by the stores talking store fronts. No walkers! Still bored LOL.
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Was bored today so I made a could passes on Holloway. Super dead now. Saw 2 black girls but they were being lazy standing up by the stores talking store fronts. No walkers! Still bored LOL.
Stay away from there today. Did two drive pass through a and saw 6 LE and 2 under covers.
[QUOTE=NCSuperman;4619780]Stay away from there today. Did two drive pass through a and saw 6 LE and 2 under covers.[/QUOTE]What day was this? Wednesday or Thursday? Saw a bunch out on my way home on Wednesday didn't even slow down while driving through.
[QUOTE=NightTraveler;4620427]What day was this? Wednesday or Thursday? Saw a bunch out on my way home on Wednesday didn't even slow down while driving through.[/QUOTE]Thursday (yesterday around 3:30 pm).
[QUOTE=NCSuperman;4619780]Stay away from there today. Did two drive pass through a and saw 6 LE and 2 under covers.[/QUOTE]If you keep up with the news at least once a year maybe more not sure, LE does a SW / John sting. It may or may not involve a Female LE posing as a SW or LE just parked somewhere watching the usual spots the SW hang out. Remember under cover LE drive Vans, pickup trucks etc. The marked cars are the least of your worries. I could be wrong but they are probably due for a sting unless they are too busy and just don't have the resources. Or maybe just waiting till the warm weather hits so they can round up more for their efforts. Point being don't lower your guard and be weary of any new lady you haven't seen before. And assume ANY car can be LE.
[QUOTE=XHippie;4623333]If you keep up with the news at least once a year maybe more not sure, LE does a SW / John sting. It may or may not involve a Female LE posing as a SW or LE just parked somewhere watching the usual spots the SW hang out. Remember under cover LE drive Vans, pickup trucks etc. The marked cars are the least of your worries. I could be wrong but they are probably due for a sting unless they are too busy and just don't have the resources. Or maybe just waiting till the warm weather hits so they can round up more for their efforts. Point being don't lower your guard and be weary of any new lady you haven't seen before. And assume ANY car can be LE.[/QUOTE]I'm curious if anyone can answer but how in the hell does a sting successfully work as long as you don't mention money until after a LE check on the lady?
[QUOTE=SirArrow;4633015]I'm curious if anyone can answer but how in the hell does a sting successfully work as long as you don't mention money until after a LE check on the lady?[/QUOTE]I'm no lawyer and don't have the answers, just what I've read in the past. You would think if LE makes the arrest and are not there to see or hear the agreed transaction it's got to be a under cover female officer. However in the past when they list the names of the arrested they were usually the customer and the known SW. So I'm guessing they spot the provider get in the vehicle then LE makes their move at some point. There were a lot of these types of LE pops when Angier Ave was active. It's common knowledge Holloway & Fayetteville are the zone. Like I said I don't know the law but I don't think LE has to see the actual transaction or catch her with your tally wag in her mouth. They just have to catch the two of you making the potential deal " hence the word soliciting" I think? Just be careful of your surroundings.
Had to head to Durham last weekend and cut down Holloway. Lots of activity, no social distancing. Saw a few women of all colors out and about.
[QUOTE=SirArrow;4633015]I'm curious if anyone can answer but how in the hell does a sting successfully work as long as you don't mention money until after a LE check on the lady?[/QUOTE]Solicitation, in legal terms, refers to someone asking, requesting, hiring, commanding, or encouraging someone else to commit a crime, such as murder or prostitution. Solicitation does not require that either party involved actually performs an act in furtherance of the crime, as the actual crime of solicitation occurs at the moment the solicitation is communicated to the other party.
In the specific example of solicitation of prostitution, or the sale of sexual services, the crime involves a person's agreement to exchange money for sex. The agreement does not need to be explicit, as the actions can be enough to demonstrate agreement. The moment you agree to pay for sex, and take some action to further that agreement, the crime of solicitation has occurred. At this point, it does not matter if either party actually follows through with the crime.
In regard to actions that further the agreement, this can be something as simple as withdrawing money from an ATM in order to pay for the solicited services, or taking the hired prostitute to a motel in order to receive the solicited services.
A solicitation charge may be further enhanced if the solicitation of prostitution was to a minor, or to a person with a sexually transmitted infection. Solicitation to a minor specifically will often result in a misdemeanor charge becoming a felony.
Although it would seem otherwise, there are some defenses that can help a defendant. The prosecution must have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that solicitation took place.
Because of this, a lack of evidence (such as a witness to the arrangement or taped conversations concerning the solicitation) may clear a defendant. Ambiguous evidence may leave the jury doubting that the topic was prostitution, such as agreeing to be a date to a party really meaning being a date to a party.
In some situations, mistakes of fact can serve as viable defenses:
Knowledge that the person was a prostitute: It is not a crime to want or have sex if no compensation has been offered or exchanged. Therefore, some people may be unaware that they are engaging in sexual conduct with a prostitute; or.
Service agreed upon was not sex: Compensation being offered or exchanged does not necessarily mean that the services desired was of a sexual nature.
Entrapment is a complicated defense. Being propositioned by an undercover police officer does not necessarily constitute entrapment. As long as you demonstrated some desire to commit the crime when the undercover officer offered sex when working on a prostitution case, you could still be found guilty of solicitation.
Drove through today and saw a redheaded girl walking, looked like Hollie from STG.
[QUOTE=NCSuperman;4760645]Solicitation, in legal terms, refers to someone asking, requesting, hiring, commanding, or encouraging someone else to commit a crime, such as murder or prostitution. Solicitation does not require that either party involved actually performs an act in furtherance of the crime, as the actual crime of solicitation occurs at the moment the solicitation is communicated to the other party.
In the specific example of solicitation of prostitution, or the sale of sexual services, the crime involves a person's agreement to exchange money for sex. The agreement does not need to be explicit, as the actions can be enough to demonstrate agreement. The moment you agree to pay for sex, and take some action to further that agreement, the crime of solicitation has occurred. At this point, it does not matter if either party actually follows through with the crime.
In regard to actions that further the agreement, this can be something as simple as withdrawing money from an ATM in order to pay for the solicited services, or taking the hired prostitute to a motel in order to receive the solicited services.
A solicitation charge may be further enhanced if the solicitation of prostitution was to a minor, or to a person with a sexually transmitted infection. Solicitation to a minor specifically will often result in a misdemeanor charge becoming a felony.
Although it would seem otherwise, there are some defenses that can help a defendant. The prosecution must have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that solicitation took place.
Because of this, a lack of evidence (such as a witness to the arrangement or taped conversations concerning the solicitation) may clear a defendant. Ambiguous evidence may leave the jury doubting that the topic was prostitution, such as agreeing to be a date to a party really meaning being a date to a party.
In some situations, mistakes of fact can serve as viable defenses:
Knowledge that the person was a prostitute: It is not a crime to want or have sex if no compensation has been offered or exchanged. Therefore, some people may be unaware that they are engaging in sexual conduct with a prostitute; or.
Service agreed upon was not sex: Compensation being offered or exchanged does not necessarily mean that the services desired was of a sexual nature.
Entrapment is a complicated defense. Being propositioned by an undercover police officer does not necessarily constitute entrapment. As long as you demonstrated some desire to commit the crime when the undercover officer offered sex when working on a prostitution case, you could still be found guilty of solicitation.[/QUOTE]But the real trouble you are in is explaining the charge to "you know who" back at the house, ouch! I swear honey I was just giving the poor lady a ride really..
[QUOTE=NCSuperman;4760645]Solicitation, in legal terms, refers to someone asking, requesting, hiring, commanding, or encouraging someone else to commit a crime, such as murder or prostitution. Solicitation does not require that either party involved actually performs an act in furtherance of the crime, as the actual crime of solicitation occurs at the moment the solicitation is communicated to the other party.
In the specific example of solicitation of prostitution, or the sale of sexual services, the crime involves a person's agreement to exchange money for sex. The agreement does not need to be explicit, as the actions can be enough to demonstrate agreement. The moment you agree to pay for sex, and take some action to further that agreement, the crime of solicitation has occurred. At this point, it does not matter if either party actually follows through with the crime.
In regard to actions that further the agreement, this can be something as simple as withdrawing money from an ATM in order to pay for the solicited services, or taking the hired prostitute to a motel in order to receive the solicited services.
A solicitation charge may be further enhanced if the solicitation of prostitution was to a minor, or to a person with a sexually transmitted infection. Solicitation to a minor specifically will often result in a misdemeanor charge becoming a felony.
Although it would seem otherwise, there are some defenses that can help a defendant. The prosecution must have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that solicitation took place.
Because of this, a lack of evidence (such as a witness to the arrangement or taped conversations concerning the solicitation) may clear a defendant. Ambiguous evidence may leave the jury doubting that the topic was prostitution, such as agreeing to be a date to a party really meaning being a date to a party.
In some situations, mistakes of fact can serve as viable defenses:
Knowledge that the person was a prostitute: It is not a crime to want or have sex if no compensation has been offered or exchanged. Therefore, some people may be unaware that they are engaging in sexual conduct with a prostitute; or.
Service agreed upon was not sex: Compensation being offered or exchanged does not necessarily mean that the services desired was of a sexual nature.
Entrapment is a complicated defense. Being propositioned by an undercover police officer does not necessarily constitute entrapment. As long as you demonstrated some desire to commit the crime when the undercover officer offered sex when working on a prostitution case, you could still be found guilty of solicitation.[/QUOTE]I understand. My question is still how someone gets busted after they do a proper LE check.
[QUOTE=SirArrow;4771270]I understand. My question is still how someone gets busted after they do a proper LE check.[/QUOTE]What's a proper LE check (like what do you exactly do)? LE can do and say a lot.
[QUOTE=NCSuperman;4773893]What's a proper LE check (like what do you exactly do)? LE can do and say a lot.[/QUOTE]After I see we're not followed, I'll let her initiate the idea of a LE check. She'll expose herself and ask me to touch her (usually). Or she'll ask to touch me. Only then will I discuss donations. Thoughts?
[QUOTE=SirArrow;4780879]After I see we're not followed, I'll let her initiate the idea of a LE check. She'll expose herself and ask me to touch her (usually). Or she'll ask to touch me. Only then will I discuss donations. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]They don't need to follow you to arrest you or see the crime being committed. Cops can lie to you and say they are not cops or act a any role they want or their informant. Example a sworn in informant can basically be fucking you and cops come in and only arrest you.