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Doing the deed at a crack house is pretty crazy. But picking up a SW there seems less risky so long as you are careful, If the cops show up just tell them you were looking for a friend and thats it. Beyond this remain silent. The cops might be able to get you for trespassing, but it's questionable unless the manager is willing to press charges. I would like to find a SW at one. The problem is that they are probably BSW's.
[QUOTE=Hargow20]Doing the deed at a crack house is pretty crazy. But picking up a SW there seems less risky so long as you are careful, If the cops show up just tell them you were looking for a friend and thats it. Beyond this remain silent. The cops might be able to get you for trespassing, but it's questionable unless the manager is willing to press charges. I would like to find a SW at one. The problem is that they are probably BSW's.[/QUOTE]
The 2 posters listed above ARE the same person. He(hizark21 or hargow20) post dribble on any and all forums. He does this so he can remain the top poster. He was chased from the Phoenix board last year, in fact , some other members started a special section on the San Diego board to make fun of his stupid post. Do not pay any attention to his nonsense and hopefully he will go away! Be safe & happy hunting--JAMESJ
[QUOTE=Hargow20]Doing the deed at a crack house is pretty crazy. But picking up a SW there seems less risky so long as you are careful, If the cops show up just tell them you were looking for a friend and thats it. Beyond this remain silent. The cops might be able to get you for trespassing, but it's questionable unless the manager is willing to press charges. I would like to find a SW at one. The problem is that they are probably BSW's.[/QUOTE]
Hargow, there are plenty of white ladies at crack houses. What made you think and write that they are mostly black? Plus they are not all street walkers. The last lady I had a session with at a Columbia crack house was not a street walker or escort at all. She was just a white lady who wanted to make a little extra cash for crack.
Although my favorite Columbia crack house is run by a white couple, when I was in St. Louis over the summer, I went to a crack house that was run by 2 older black gentlemen in their fifties or sixties. The crack house was their apartment. (I had a session with a 40-something white lady there, but I never mentioned this particular crack house on the southside before.) A white 30-something guy in a tye-dye shirt was chillin' in their crack room watching TV. He was so high, he didn't even glance at me when I peered into the room {chuckle}
However, I'd be scared out of my wits to go to a crack house in East St. Louis. I don't think I'd ever try that.
Plus there's no need to visit potentially dangerous crack houses in a city as big as St. Louis. There are plenty of ladies in St. Louis walking the streets. But in small towns like Columbia and Fulton, a hobbyist might be tempted to try the crack house option. (Stay away from the drug though. From what I've read online, crack is a seriously hard drug--as psychologically addicting as heroin is physically addicting).
I did so much cruising last summer in Columbia, I spotted 3 different crack houses and 2 different dealers' houses--just by noticing unusual traffic patterns at particular houses. If I'm able to find and notice crack houses and dealer houses that easily, you know the police gotta know where they are too. Police officers cruise those streets on a daily basis and notice everything. - Rosco
The problem with a crack house is that it's to easy to have to deal with some gang bang type. Most these guys are crazy and don't care who they shoot.
[QUOTE=Rosco2]Hargow, there are plenty of white ladies at crack houses. What made you think and write that they are mostly black? Plus they are not all street walkers. The last lady I had a session with at a Columbia crack house was not a street walker or escort at all. She was just a white lady who wanted to make a little extra cash for crack.
Although my favorite Columbia crack house is run by a white couple, when I was in St. Louis over the summer, I went to a crack house that was run by 2 older black gentlemen in their fifties or sixties. The crack house was their apartment. (I had a session with a 40-something white lady there, but I never mentioned this particular crack house on the southside before.) A white 30-something guy in a tye-dye shirt was chillin' in their crack room watching TV. He was so high, he didn't even glance at me when I peered into the room {chuckle}
However, I'd be scared out of my wits to go to a crack house in East St. Louis. I don't think I'd ever try that.
Plus there's no need to visit potentially dangerous crack houses in a city as big as St. Louis. There are plenty of ladies in St. Louis walking the streets. But in small towns like Columbia and Fulton, a hobbyist might be tempted to try the crack house option. (Stay away from the drug though. From what I've read online, crack is a seriously hard drug--as psychologically addicting as heroin is physically addicting).
I did so much cruising last summer in Columbia, I spotted 3 different crack houses and 2 different dealers' houses--just by noticing unusual traffic patterns at particular houses. If I'm able to find and notice crack houses and dealer houses that easily, you know the police gotta know where they are too. Police officers cruise those streets on a daily basis and notice everything. - Rosco[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that the dope man is usually hanging out in the crack house. The place is full of dope fiends. You have money.
Eventually, everything "combusts" and you can either get robbed, rolled, beaten up or shot.
When you're around these elements, you have to assume this is inevitable.
*edit: But that don't mean I ain't jealous!
After a session with Sinamon, decided to grab a bite & see what the southside had to offer. Girls lurking about all over the place!! About 6:45 met my second date (Carolyn) WSW, 5'5' ,130#,A cups, 42yo, shoulder length dark black hair, face 6(missing a couple of upper teeth) body 7. Made the swoop @ Penn. & Upton. Drove to Skips Place Too & warmed her up with a coffee and small talk. Decided on a BBBJCIM for .20. Found a nice spot north of Chippewa near Jefferson. Dropped her off on Winnebego @ her home(2 blocks west of Jeff.). Performance=8,attitude 8-9. Will repeat & can share digits with seniors who post QUALITY. After doing some more recon-Meremac,B-way,Penn (the usual haunts) etc. Mongers & workers out in every shape color & size!! About 8:30 ,I spot a young 25-30 WSW (reral nice looking) on Penn in the area of Courtious. Numerous mongers were making loops, cutting thru alleys etc. --it wasn't safe to drive!!! She must have been new as she would turn, cross the streets and make it hard to do a swoop. She finally crossed B-way & went into the landraumat. I decided to move out ofthe area as to much attention was being paid to her. Made the turn @ the famous Shell station on S. B-way. Saw a mid 30s girl get in the passenger side of an older black sports car(Toyota/ Nissan?-not sure). I head north on Penn for about 2 blocks, the car flashes the lights, I pull over and Bobbie Jo jumps out, comes up and ask for a ride-- I'm like -lets go! She hopps in, ask if I'm LE and shows me a perfect set of "B" s. drive down to a bar near Marcue (RR tracks)go in for a drink and small talk. Decide on BBBJ for.25 . Bobbie Jo is W 32,5'1' 120#, long brown hair, looks 8, service and attitude 8-9. Find a place south of Loughborough near Virginia. Dropped her@ her home on Vermont. Says she is not out often,can do incall @ her place durring daytime, has 8yo daughter with shared custody. Said her "father" was driving the black car ???(LOL) Have digits, but can't share. After 9:15 I continued to cruise.but was tired and called it a day. Be safe andhappy hunting. JAMESJ
It has been awhile since I've been able to get out, but today offered some opportunity. I wasn't excited about the weather potential, but what could I do. I hit the southside about 2:30, and didn't see much. Along Grand in front of the Arby's I saw a WSW who I've seen out before but never dated. She has real short blondish/redish hair, has a tat on her neck, and kind of short, but appears, thru her coat, to have decent sized breasts. I wanted to try her, but there was too much traffic and when I came back around she was gone.
I also saw a BSW in the same area. She looked like she might be pretty decent looking, but with a hood on and pulled tight it is hard to get a good assesment with only seeing 3 inches of face. I passed.
As I was leaving the area, I saw a WSW wearing a white puffy coat. She was near Grand and Meramec. She looked rather thin and had dark hair with a blond streak on one side. At this time I was late to get home and had to pass. If anyone has any experiences with these girls, as brief as thier descriptions are, I would love the intel.
Just a question because I've only been in the game since last spring. If most of these ladies have addiction issues, even though it's cold out why aren't they out in force to feed that monster. I would think that they would have to get that money to pay for thier fix. Ideas?
I did so much cruising last summer in Columbia, I spotted 3 different crack houses and 2 different dealers' houses--just by noticing unusual traffic patterns at particular houses. If I'm able to find and notice crack houses and dealer houses that easily, you know the police gotta know where they are too. Police officers cruise those streets on a daily basis and notice everything. - Rosco[/QUOTE]
Rosco--it isn't in the police best interest to eliminate all crime. We have cities with large police forces and corrisponding budgits---if they eliminate most of the crime we don't need all of those guys and gals wearing uniformes. And if they take most of the criminals off of the streets the state gets pissed at the cities for over loading the prisons. So the cops try to take mainly the most violent people off the streets and the ones who are too obivious. That way they can justify their jobs. As far as it goes cops don't care if some idiot does drugs and stays out of his or her mind for days on end--as long as they don't get violent. And if a woman spreads her legs to get money for drugs--well again no skin off of their back, and they aren't above hitting up hookers for free samples in exchange for not locking them up.
Now if my above statements sound like I'm making them up--I have heard the same in one form or another from the mouths of police officers with my own ears from North Carolina to Las Vegas, and in more than one city/ state north of the Mason Dixon. Not all small town police departments feel that way--but a lot of the major ones do. I would say that most of the small town police departments try to do the right thing most of the time.
cybin
Cybin, you're probably right. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.
[QUOTE=Cybin][QUOTE=Rosco2]I did so much cruising last summer in Columbia, I spotted 3 different crack houses and 2 different dealers' houses--just by noticing unusual traffic patterns at particular houses. If I'm able to find and notice crack houses and dealer houses that easily, you know the police gotta know where they are too. Police officers cruise those streets on a daily basis and notice everything. - Rosco[/QUOTE]Rosco,
It isn't in the police best interest to eliminate all crime. We have cities with large police forces and corrisponding budgits---if they eliminate most of the crime we don't need all of those guys and gals wearing uniformes. And if they take most of the criminals off of the streets the state gets pissed at the cities for over loading the prisons. So the cops try to take mainly the most violent people off the streets and the ones who are too obivious. That way they can justify their jobs. As far as it goes cops don't care if some idiot does drugs and stays out of his or her mind for days on end--as long as they don't get violent. And if a woman spreads her legs to get money for drugs--well again no skin off of their back, and they aren't above hitting up hookers for free samples in exchange for not locking them up.
Now if my above statements sound like I'm making them up--I have heard the same in one form or another from the mouths of police officers with my own ears from North Carolina to Las Vegas, and in more than one city/ state north of the Mason Dixon. Not all small town police departments feel that way--but a lot of the major ones do. I would say that most of the small town police departments try to do the right thing most of the time.
Cybin[/QUOTE]Pretty much accurate observations. Also, low level street drug dealers, operators of crack houses in deteriorated or economically depressed neighborhoods, and street prostitutes tend to hear about other criminal activities (things like robberies, burglaries, assaults, etc.) and the police will come to rely on them as informants, so it's [i]not[/i] in LEO's best intrests to be busting them. Over in the Memphis forum there's the occasional mention of a SW talking to LEO in a marked car, and I'll wager it happens in STL a bit too. In some of these instances I'm sure that LEO isn't necessarily hassling the SW; LEO may well be asking her about criminal activity in the area that she's observed or otherwise heard about.
That depends on the city, neighborhood, visibility of the SW "problem", community pressure, etc. , of course. For example here in Memphis of late (say since late spring/early summer) there have been a number of very visible crackdowns on SWs and their clients. A lot of that has to do with perceptions of Memphis being an extremely crime-ridden city, and a lot (more? Most of it? ) has to do with the fact that the city's revenue base (property taxes and sales taxes) have turned to liquid shit between the bursting of the housing bubble and the economic recession--the city simply [i]must[/i] cut its budget drastically, and MPD is no doubt figuring that they stand to lose less of their budget if they're seen as being out there and having some impact on the crime that the public sees. And one of the most visible forms of crime is street prostitution. (It doesn't help that many Memphis SWs tend to dress like stereotypical SWs--short shorts or short dresses/skirts, high heeled fuck-me pumps, etc. ; that kind of costume tends to attract attention. Both the kind SWs want and the kind they [i]don't[/i] want.)
As for cops getting free samples from SWs. I don't know. Back when I toiled in the vinyards of the criminal justice system, I used to hear that from SWs a lot, but mostly in the form of claims that the vice cop who busted her had gotten "everything he paid for" before busting her--in at least one instance a SW claimed to me that the vice cop who busted her was a regular customer for a couple weeks before the bust came down. Sure, it's an easy claim for a working girl to make, and the transactions in question never took place around witnesses (of course! ), but I heard the same story about the same vice cops from too many different girls not to conclude that there wasn't something to it.
[QUOTE=Mutger]Just a question because I've only been in the game since last spring. If most of these ladies have addiction issues, even though it's cold out why aren't they out in force to feed that monster. I would think that they would have to get that money to pay for thier fix. Ideas?[/QUOTE]
Sign of the times I guess. Back in the mid-90's, you could find 5 girls on every other block. I remember passing up girls at the park on Ohio/Meramec because there would be another group at Ohio/Keokuk. Pass them up because there would be more girls at Ohio/Winnebago. God...those were the days.
I recall an article, probably the RFT, talking about the "crack wars of the 90's" or something. The availability or maybe potency of crack must not be anything like it was then. Plus, the Internet gives girls the opportunity to get dates quickly without having to hit the streets.
Whatever the reason...it is slim pickings out there.
On another note, trying to find that RFT article I came across some blasts from the past:
[url]http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2002-09-11/news/new-city-trick/1[/url]
[url]http://www.rftstl.com/2003-07-30/news/inn-out/[/url]
Hit the south side about midnight and found Missy at Penns/Curtois. About 5' 5" with long, dark curly hair. Somewhat thin...wearing a white skullcap. Initially looked cute.
Got her in the ride, and I think she was missing a few teeth. No matter, she seemed pleasant and was dressed nice. Found a place to park, and she didn't like it so she said had a better place. On the way there, she was saying "Don't speed...use your signal. Slow down, get in this lane."
Then we get to a parking lot of the apts @ 55/Germania and then she's like "cut your lights, pull up there...back up next to the dumpster."
Well the **** didn't like the direction I was backing up and she's like "NO, not this way!"
I'm like "Fuck lady...it don't fucking matter." Then she can't understand why I'm getting upset and she's telling me to calm down. I told her to quite being a rude, bossy *****.
By this time, I've already resigned myself to getting a lousy bj. She was ok, too much teeth...though she had a cute ass to play with.
But then I pop and no sooner does a tiny drop of my cum shoot and she's off my dick with "Oh god, ugh...I'm done." Then she hangs her head out the window and is gagging and spitting out my nut.
She couldn't have gotten but a tiny bit cuz I'm setting there trying to catch about 4 more shots and not make a total mess. At this point I'm so pissed that I don't say a word when she asks, "You want my number? Was it good?"
We start to pull out of the parking lot and she's giving me directions again. Go left, then left then right... We go another 10 feet..."Turn left here! PLEASE! See, I'm not rude at all."
Another 5 mins of silence from me and directions from her and I drop her off right on South Broadway at Koeln.
And I see this scraggy ho named "Tina" and Missy says that's her old lady. Tina's ripped me off before...bucking fitches!
What a shitty night.
p.s. the filter kinda blows. I can't say **** and *****, but fuck and dick are ok? Anyway, really needed them words to voice my displeasure!
[QUOTE=Knucklebuck]p.s. the filter kinda blows. I can't say **** and *****, but fuck and dick are ok? Anyway, really needed them words to voice my displeasure![/QUOTE]
"Fuck" and "dick" aren't used to disrespect women. **** and **** are. Don't worry, we know what you meant. Sounds like those words would have been appropriate in this case. At least you got your nut. A ***** like that would have been walking if it were me.
[QUOTE=KC Questor]"Fuck" and "dick" aren't used to disrespect women. **** and **** are. Don't worry, we know what you meant. Sounds like those words would have been appropriate in this case. At least you got your nut. A ***** like that would have been walking if it were me.[/QUOTE]
Ho, Cu*t, Wh*re, Sk*nk, sl*t etc are NOT disrespecting to women. To me, It just describes their activities. It reminds me of a time I was getting a BJ & pased a small amount of gas (not intentional)-- the 'sucker' looked up at me and she said "you don't have much class, don't you respect me". I responded that it was HER who was slurping on my knob--now which one of us has class ? She continued till I nutted, & like a good girl swallowed every drop. No more discussion about class or respect with her!! Be safe & happy hunting JAMESJ
[QUOTE=Knucklebuck]Hit the south side about midnight and found Missy at Penns/Curtois. About 5' 5" with long, dark curly hair. Somewhat thin...wearing a white skullcap. Initially looked cute.
Got her in the ride, and I think she was missing a few teeth. No matter, she seemed pleasant and was dressed nice. Found a place to park, and she didn't like it so she said had a better place. On the way there, she was saying "Don't speed...use your signal. Slow down, get in this lane."
Then we get to a parking lot of the apts @ 55/Germania and then she's like "cut your lights, pull up there...back up next to the dumpster."
Well the **** didn't like the direction I was backing up and she's like "NO, not this way!"
I'm like "Fuck lady...it don't fucking matter." Then she can't understand why I'm getting upset and she's telling me to calm down. I told her to quite being a rude, bossy *****.[QUOTE]I have found a couple girls like this that were overly bossy, rude, and as high strung as an Irish Setter on stimulants! I have even been stupid enough to give second dates to them in case the first one was just a fluke. Nope. Second dates were usually as bad or worse than the first. Nothing sets the mood better than having them get on their cell phones, have a screaming arguement with whomever they call.complete with crying and threatening to kill themselves. Then after the phone call and on the way to a spot they start telling you how to drive, get jumpy at the sight of ANY other car on the road fearing it is LE. Etc.
By the time I reach a spot I am as jumpy as they are and questioning my sanity for picking them up in the first place. These "memorable" dates usually ended with basically a "do it yourself" approach while my date kept a look out for anything that moved. Their active participation consisted of 30 second bursts of oral attention punctuated by a resumption of visually scanning the horizon for signs of other cars, movement, etc. While telling me to "hurry up" or asking me, "aren't you done yet? ". Being "goal" oriented, I always reached that goal complete with cleaning up afterwards. Honestly, I have had better sexual encounters by viewing the pages of a good adult magazine.
I know I am too easy in terms of just not tossing them out. I write it off as bad experiences that can happen from time to time. It does make for crappy night. But for every bad experience out there, I have always found 10 more that more than make up for it.
Sorry to hear of your bad experience and thank you for the report. If I come across Missy I will know to pass her by!