Kgirls Rebrands

[QUOTE=FreeWally;7002476]I've gone into detailed analysis on the why but the bottom line is it's heavy competition from all-in girls at other agencies. On the flip side most kgirls strongly need anonymity for their safety so I get the need to hide something. So faceless selfies works great for me as a compromise. I actually recognize and know the girl from that alone.

I know you guys don't like the idea but I simply see most girls blind. Then if she's good I'll shout it from the rooftops for everyone. I did that for Bona and had no idea she's been around, I thought I found a hidden gem that was brand new when I reviewed her.[/QUOTE]I look at things from a monger's perspective, first and foremost. It's simple for me to do, benefits me, and most of the bros here too. I don't like rebranding mainly because of two reasons, it artificially inflates an already large number of kgirls in the LA / OC area and it requires extensive knowledge of past kgirls to pin down truly new talent.

Having a large number of kgirls might sound good on paper but IMHO it's actually degrading our ability to get good intel right now. Because it is straining an already scarce resource of reliable and honest reviews. Having a lot of kgirls available is nice and all but if we don't have an increase of good reviews commensurate with the larger kgirl roster then in reality we are slowly receding into a no man's land of information scarcity. Rebrands contribute to this travesty: potential gems being sidelined.

You perfectly highlighted my second point. Without extensive knowledge of past kgirls, we can easily fall prey to why certain owners / girls intentionally rebrand: tap into the market of ignorant or uninformed mongers. Say a monger decides they don't want to see girl X because of intel, feedback, and / or reviews. If girl X then rebrand to Z, the monger is SOL if he likes the new pictures, stats, whatnot and decides to see her. In your case, Bona was a winner but the opposite can just be as likely.

To your point on TOFTT, I don't think any here dislikes the idea. On the contrary, we wholeheartedly praise and encourage the practice. It's just that, IMHO, most don't because of limited hard earned funds and a strong aversion and fear of seeing a dud leaving them poorer and dissatisfied for it. Not all of us have the wherewithal to take that plunge. I get that. So they heavily rely on info here and elsewhere to make their choice for them. Hence, we get this spiral of chasing the newest revealed star while a supernova is veiled on the fringes.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7002549]You perfectly highlighted my second point. Without extensive knowledge of past kgirls, we can easily fall prey to why certain owners / girls intentionally rebrand: tap into the market of ignorant or uninformed mongers. Say a monger decides they don't want to see girl X because of intel, feedback, and / or reviews. If girl X then rebrand to Z, the monger is SOL if he likes the new pictures, stats, whatnot and decides to see her. In your case, Bona was a winner but the opposite can just be as likely.

To your point on TOFTT, I don't think any here dislikes the idea. On the contrary, we wholeheartedly praise and encourage the practice. It's just that, IMHO, most don't because of limited hard earned funds and a strong aversion and fear of seeing a dud leaving them poorer and dissatisfied for it. Not all of us have the wherewithal to take that plunge. I get that. So they heavily rely on info here and elsewhere to make their choice for them. Hence, we get this spiral of chasing the newest revealed star while a supernova is veiled on the fringes.[/QUOTE]Very good points. I will just sum up why I always TOFTT. First, I genuinely llike girls a lot so if she is either good looking OR good service / attitude I'm happy. So there's very little risk for me. I am old so I have more money than I can ever spend on kgirls, but too little time left.

It is rare to get a young beautiful girl who also has great service. So when I do, I shout it from the rooftops every city she goes. Every city that jgirl Mari / Namiko went, I posted my meta-review of her showing everybody's opinion including mine on her. I pay it forward. Maybe too much if you search Bona's name on all forums. Sorry about that. I try to limit it to just one meta-review per city but if people have specific questions about a girl I answer them.

That said, sometimes a girl sucks and it is usually on attitude. Maybe 5 out of 70 girls I've seen had a bad attitude. But I think, maybe she had an off day or maybe she's new, and either way she shared her body with me at least so just in case it was a one-off for her I won't go out of my way to badmouth her. And of course, I am not going to see her twice to find out. Instead, I focus all my energy on reviewing other girls I would recommend.

Unfortunately there is not much incentive for guys to review girls, I know a girl can be booked solid but nobody will say anything. That's just how it is, but it is nice to see every now and then someone leaving a clue.

Wow if I could give this post a "like" or "love" I certainly would.

It basically illustrates the problem of rebranding practice and how it hurts us and helps the kgirls / agencies.

I would also add that often the rebranding is defended by some saying it because of a stalker. Yeah sometimes there is that, but it's not really common. Most of the rebrands run from old reviews or just want to create an illusion of "new pussy". The stalker thing is just an excuse employed by many who don't want to hear criticism of rebranding.

With prices rising (in the bay area it was 220 all included pre covid and now it's 300) I find myself doing toftt less and less. Most of my toftts aren't particularly good either.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7002549]I look at things from a monger's perspective, first and foremost. It's simple for me to do, benefits me, and most of the bros here too. I don't like rebranding mainly because of two reasons, it artificially inflates an already large number of kgirls in the LA / OC area and it requires extensive knowledge of past kgirls to pin down truly new talent.

Having a large number of kgirls might sound good on paper but IMHO it's actually degrading our ability to get good intel right now. Because it is straining an already scarce resource of reliable and honest reviews. Having a lot of kgirls available is nice and all but if we don't have an increase of good reviews commensurate with the larger kgirl roster then in reality we are slowly receding into a no man's land of information scarcity. Rebrands contribute to this travesty: potential gems being sidelined.

You perfectly highlighted my second point. Without extensive knowledge of past kgirls, we can easily fall prey to why certain owners / girls intentionally rebrand: tap into the market of ignorant or uninformed mongers. Say a monger decides they don't want to see girl X because of intel, feedback, and / or reviews. If girl X then rebrand to Z, the monger is SOL if he likes the new pictures, stats, whatnot and decides to see her. In your case, Bona was a winner but the opposite can just be as likely.

To your point on TOFTT, I don't think any here dislikes the idea. On the contrary, we wholeheartedly praise and encourage the practice. It's just that, IMHO, most don't because of limited hard earned funds and a strong aversion and fear of seeing a dud leaving them poorer and dissatisfied for it. Not all of us have the wherewithal to take that plunge. I get that. So they heavily rely on info here and elsewhere to make their choice for them. Hence, we get this spiral of chasing the newest revealed star while a supernova is veiled on the fringes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreeWally;7003427]Very good points. I will just sum up why I always TOFTT. First, I genuinely llike girls a lot so if she is either good looking OR good service / attitude I'm happy. So there's very little risk for me. I am old so I have more money than I can ever spend on kgirls, but too little time left.

It is rare to get a young beautiful girl who also has great service. So when I do, I shout it from the rooftops every city she goes. Every city that jgirl Mari / Namiko went, I posted my meta-review of her showing everybody's opinion including mine on her. I pay it forward. Maybe too much if you search Bona's name on all forums. Sorry about that. I try to limit it to just one meta-review per city but if people have specific questions about a girl I answer them.[/QUOTE]While I and many others would love and be appreciative of more reviews coming in, you're right in that there's little reward investing time and effort into writing honest and truthful reviews. It's a catch 22: why right reviews when the returns aren't significant? In reality, it's only when there's a sizeable amount of reviews flowing in where the magic happens. Suddenly you are bombarded with reviews you can browse to find common themes and fine tuned to your match your tastes / preference from the available roster of Kgirls. It's not going to happen but it would be nice.

I do disagree with your take on girls that suck and not reviewing them though. In my estimation, yelling from the rafters about a girl who rocked your world versus denouncing a poor performer (even if it could be due to a bad day) has the same merit. In both instance, what transpired really did happen and is both objectively and subjectively true. You hear stars that didn't measure up to the hype (could be due to her being in a good mood that time, especially clicked with that monger, she had a good night's rest, etc.) and you find contradicting posts of a girl that shows she's not bad at all (she improved her game, she just had a bad day, that particular monger had horrible BO / hygiene, etc.). If we don't put effort to pointing out the bad along with the good, we're going to end up with a lopsided perspective of Kgirls: those are really good, those are that Ok, but None are bad. No one in their right mind would agree with assessment.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing on Kgirls. If the girls are professional and consistent, one bad session out of X times, is not going to hurt their business in the long run. Well kind of. It's a luck of the draw really to meet with a monger that actually reviews and if it so happens that she was irritable that day and off her game then lady luck was just not on her side that particular day. So loudly sing about your sirens but don't forget to wail wildly about your woes when you've been duped of a decent date.

[QUOTE=RocketManP;7003470]Wow if I could give this post a "like" or "love" I certainly would.

It basically illustrates the problem of rebranding practice and how it hurts us and helps the kgirls / agencies.

I would also add that often the rebranding is defended by some saying it because of a stalker. Yeah sometimes there is that, but it's not really common. Most of the rebrands run from old reviews or just want to create an illusion of "new pussy". The stalker thing is just an excuse employed by many who don't want to hear criticism of rebranding.

With prices rising (in the bay area it was 220 all included pre covid and now it's 300) I find myself doing toftt less and less. Most of my toftts aren't particularly good either.[/QUOTE]I question how effective rebranding is to stop a stalker from, well, stalking. We have some OGs here with very sharp minds and others that like to sleuth as a hobby or to pass the time. If she's worth her salt and a stalker, then exposure is just a matter of time.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7003733]I do disagree with your take on girls that suck and not reviewing them though. In my estimation, yelling from the rafters about a girl who rocked your world versus denouncing a poor performer (even if it could be due to a bad day) has the same merit. In both instance, what transpired really did happen and is both objectively and subjectively true. You hear stars that didn't measure up to the hype (could be due to her being in a good mood that time, especially clicked with that monger, she had a good night's rest, etc.) and you find contradicting posts of a girl that shows she's not bad at all (she improved her game, she just had a bad day, that particular monger had horrible BO / hygiene, etc.). If we don't put effort to pointing out the bad along with the good, we're going to end up with a lopsided perspective of Kgirls: those are really good, those are that Ok, but None are bad. No one in their right mind would agree with assessment.[/QUOTE]I don't question the value of bashing a girl. I just hate doing it. I really do.

Half the reason I write about girls is I enjoy women by writing about what we did so I will remember it even 20 years later, the way Klingons sing about a great battle they just had. And I also want my brothers to help me gang up on her. My reward is Bona stays another week as we compete to repeatedly impregnate her.

I would bring her a pregnancy test next time but she does not share my sense of humor. One time from a misunderstanding I pissed her off and she berated me for 15 minutes straight while giving me sexual orders so she could finish me her way. I think I apologized to her 10 times, before cumming, in the shower with her, and as I got dressed. I will tell the full story some day but I need some time to process it still. But we were good after that and banged many times happily.

The first five visits having sex with Bona was like a sexual battle. I didn't understand her yet. I was trying to fuck her, but she was also trying to fuck me. I even told her no it's cool I'll do the work. She still fucked me furiously. I remember that ridiculous scene in 300 Rise of an Empire, the sex on the boat scene. It was a non-sensical sexual battle playing out just like that. I thought it was unbelievable but here I was engaged in just such a struggle with her, changing positions all around the room in crazy ways using the furniture - no idea who had the upper hand. All this as she tried to make me cum sooner while I was trying to cum later - just trying to worship her with my normal routine. Neither of us knew who would win this cum timing fight but she was determined and at the end I wanted to yield but couldn't finish it as she demanded. But I eventually did. It's not the only reason but she soon went off on me in frustration. The other reason is too embarrassing to say. I say five visits because we fucked 11 times by that point.

Here's a surprise for everyone. Bona is back in SD. Imagine that, the tiniest market has managed to keep Bona for a 5th week instead of LA. I know several guys have seen her more than 5 times. I told her soon after laying eyes on her I'd be seeing her very often. Her reply was to ask me if I was married. Hot damn.

The shower for that place is good for fucking. It never occurred to me until she made me fuck her then and there. She could put her hands on three walls (counting the door) to brace herself different ways for what I was giving her. Just crouch low if you're tall, or bend Bona over if you're not.

She demanded I dump my cum in her then and there in the shower but I refused. I pulled out so we could continue our sexual battle in the bedroom like normal people do.

[QUOTE=Christophe1;6995529]This is Sumatra and / or Eve from the East Coast or Up North. This person may be trying to stay incognito from a predator so I will send a message of who I think she is.[/QUOTE]Who knows? I read this but saw her touring so maybe she was a) hiding from someone b) practicing the arts of deception c) didn't want to be know for MFM. Out of my interpretation of respect I passed on other recent aliases. I could also be wrong and she has already moved on.

[QUOTE=Moodyz;6946235]According to sources, she has gone back to Korea. For those who were interested, the window to tag team Miso is most likely closed for good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreeWally;7004226]I don't question the value of bashing a girl. I just hate doing it. I really do.[/QUOTE]How does grading a girl poorly turn into "bashing" though?

I never get that. Does a professor / teacher who gives a C+ to a student "bash" them? Or is it simply product evaluation that is supposed to be objective?

Most distributions are normal distributions so you are going to have most girls being average at the top of the bell curve. Somehow though there are some who try to perpetuate the illusion that all kgirls are somehow only on the far right of the curve. It doesn't really work that way.

I think using words like "bash" when describing rating something or someone lower on the scale, is often done deliberately to create a false dichotomy and discourage public low ratings.

Its presented as choice between "bashing the girl" and not writing a review / recap at all. Whereas it really should be about giving an honest recap regardless of quality of the session vs not doing so.

As far as "bad day" goes, consider the following scenario.

A girl who is subpar is visited by mongers. Each monger thinks "oh shit this was bad but maybe she had a bad day" and doesn't write a review / mini. How long will this continue? Well until someone actually mans up and posts about it and others realize oh it's not really a bad day, it's an actual MO.

Is it good for mongers? No. The best case scenario is to nip it in the bud, not to keep quiet until someone says it. It's literally against the monger interest to keep quiet IMO.

The Boner is bored today so The Boner decides to impart some Boner Sense (BS) to people.
Don't hate The Boner, hate the game.

CG Ellie = Rebrand?

CG Suji2 = Natti? = BG Suji4 / Suji5 = SAG Sooji.

BG Sharon1 = BG Carina3.

BG Heart2 = BG Adela.

BG Mina7 = BG Jiyoung.

BG Paige2 = BG Becky3, BG Becky2 may also be her.

BG Yomi = BG Miko.

BG Bona2 = Daphne / Ring / .

BG Siena = BG Balkan = BG Cloud.

BG BabySoso = BG Soda2 = BG Sodium?

BG Tammy = BG Terry.

BG Holly2 = BG Hongin.

BG Mango = BG Swiri.

BG Milky2 = BG SexyCherry.

BG Jiwoo = BG Melody4?

BG Dain2 = Lovely / Carol (the pretty one, not the MILF+ PSE one).

SAG Cutie = SAG Naty.

TopAngel Kassia = Arina.

CAK Baby Dalli = CAK Lizza.

CAK Olivia = CAK Soy.

Someone said Baby Mango = Baby Winter / Baby Blue.

Gangnam Diane = Big tits CG Stella?

CG Hari may be CG Woori.

BG Ellie2, Yuna6, BG Barbara, CG Avery, CG Aloe, GKS Masera felt like rebrand, not sure who yet.

I can remember some girls cause of their pics like BG LVCherry, BG Jenny8/ CG Luna2, BG DopeJene, BG Nancy4/ Orange / Sky, BG Lucky, BG Niya, BG Seven3, BG Adie / Arabica, BG Cosmo / CG Olivia / SAG Hannah / CAK Soy / Onion, BG Torii, BG Cola, BG Miu3/ Baby Koko J, BG JeongA, CG Simona, CG Ivy, CG Tiny / Capri, GKS Everly / Luna, GKS Danbi, GKS Genna, TopAngel Elle, TopAngel Leila, TopAngel Tanya, CAK Zoe, Baby Gold, Itzel, Kira, Baby Peach. There are more but may not be in SoCal.

Some girls almost fooled me with new fake pics like SexyVivian / Glamour. Stop baiting The Boner. I don't have loads to spare. Even Viagra won't save me from losing the Boner Appetite if I don't use Boner Sense.

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7026563]The Boner is bored today so The Boner decides to impart some Boner Sense (BS) to people. Don't hate The Boner, hate the game. loads to spare.[/QUOTE]Seems like the takeaway is to avoid using BG / Tom if you can help it.

Lv Cherry = Romi.

I heard about the long nipples and it triggered some memory. LoveRosie was in OC and LA before.

I heard Aloe had toys and Kiss / Alice also had toys.

BG Sumatra, BG Prada2, BG Baby Gold are rebrands.

BG Sky2 = BG Adie.

BG Lucy5 = BG Bona2

I am only speculating about rebrands cause I ain't coming when I smell MILFs or rebrands.

[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7026655]Seems like the takeaway is to avoid using BG / Tom if you can help it.[/QUOTE]Yup, I wholeheartedly agree with that statement. I like to maintain good relations with all of the bookers. If someday the a-hole attitude and the shoddy customer service improves, I would reconsider my position. But that appears highly unlikely. So I just refuse to book with Tom.

Would also be nice to see fewer rebrands and fewer fake profile pics, but that's a problem across the board.