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Thanks for the feedback. She has the look of good times. Well at least she is real, just flaky. Would you mind sharing or PM how much was the allowance?
[QUOTE=InsaneManX;4259606]So I managed to meet up with her the other day purely by chance. She looks pretty close to her pictures, but as someone else said that was a good 20 pounds ago. Pretty damn good head game and she's very vocal.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Grasshopping;4260188]Thanks for the feedback. She has the look of good times. Well at least she is real, just flaky. Would you mind sharing or PM how much was the allowance?[/QUOTE]Oh man it was a great time for me. Pm me and I will tell you the details and give you the allowance.
Quoted me $2 k. Seems like I'm the unlucky rookie in town who gets quoted 700,1 k, 2 k!! I'm jealous of you all slick haggling fellas accomplishing deeds at 200-300.
[QUOTE=Geeker;4260891]Quoted me $2 k. Seems like I'm the unlucky rookie in town who gets quoted 700,1 k, 2 k!! I'm jealous of you all slick haggling fellas accomplishing deeds at 200-300.[/QUOTE]She quoted me the same too. One time only for 1. 5 k to 2 k. I told her that is a lot for one time only. She then said it can be multiple times if each time is 1. 5 k. I wish her luck.
Talked to another SB today. She said she has had 2 SD before, CEO / CFO type. She claimed they paid her 1 k each time. I actually kind of believe that there would be people that pays this much (though obviously not the norm). After all, there are plenty of wealthy people around this area.
[QUOTE=Geeker;4260891]Quoted me $2 k. Seems like I'm the unlucky rookie in town who gets quoted 700,1 k, 2 k!! I'm jealous of you all slick haggling fellas accomplishing deeds at 200-300.[/QUOTE]She's been on the site on and off for years. Claims she's never gone through with an physical arrangement. Probably never will at $2,000 LOL.
[QUOTE=Grasshopping;4261127]She quoted me the same too. One time only for 1. 5 k to 2 k. I told her that is a lot for one time only. She then said it can be multiple times if each time is 1. 5 k. I wish her luck.
Talked to another SB today. She said she has had 2 SD before, CEO / CFO type. She claimed they paid her 1 k each time. I actually kind of believe that there would be people that pays this much (though obviously not the norm). After all, there are plenty of wealthy people around this area.[/QUOTE]While that is true, I doubt CEO / CFO types are ever the ones to overpay for services of any kind. It's typically the debt laden recent graduate with new job offer. Plumbers, electricians, landscapers never make any money from C-level folks as they keep cross-shopping the price with incredible patience. It's the rookies who splurge on instinct like middle-class fella with tax refund or signing bonus on new job.
[QUOTE=David032;4261495]So read a lot of your posts and I think some of you are approaching this wrong. I am sure I will get flamed for saying this next part but I am going to say it. 500 to 700 for a nice date night is not over priced I do agree 1 k and higher is slightly over priced. Also agree paying 500 to 700 per hour for fun is overpriced. I have met several girls from SA in this area had good and bad experiences. In one case had dinner drinks at a bar and the girl spent the night all for 600. Bad case she showed up then when it became time to be intimate she demanded more money. Since I had already made out and felt her up and got half a HJ. Just told her to leave. Called a girl from skip.
I approach it differently than most of you seem to. I start talking them if they mention pay per meet or per hour I ignore them. I always ask for dinner and drinks at a bar (even if don't plan on doing all of that) because that generally separates the girls who just want money and the girls who actually want money and fun. The girls who want money and fun are the ones you want. I don't run when they mention 500 to 600 Yes paying a pro that amount is unthinkable. But remember the vast number of these girls arent pros or trying to be pros.
I also never discus previous relationships with them I also ask what they want. I look at how much time they are willing to spend with me so 600 for dinner some drinks at a bar and end up at my hotel, for 600 is a deal. That in itself usually ends up being a 6 or 7 hour date. I never ask them for sex I may hint at sex but am intentionally vague. I always say not looking for platonic looking for intimate, I also mention ending up at my hotel room or taking. Them back to my hotel room after the drinks at the bar.
I have met several still see one or two regularly when I am in town. I think a lot of you are treating this like skip or back and trying to get the best deal you can. Sure do that but.
I can say from personal experience your losing out. The girls who do it cheap are usually the undercover pros. So while 300 seems good. Your paying 300 for an hour when I end up paying 100 an hour and get more. Now there are some girls in the there who don't know their own value and you can get cheap. Those girls I have found come with a whole lot of bagge.
I posted a post on craigslist back in the day, I think Sa is similar its like fishing take your time don't rush and be willing to throw the fish back. This site has provided several regulars for me. Hell one or two have called me just asking to spend time with me for no exchange because they had a good time and they wanted to see there daddy again. I still end up seeing different girls because like most of you variety is the spice of life. If anyone has any questions please feel free to message me.[/QUOTE]How you approach it is your business but I pay $200-$400 for no time limit dates often. These aren't pros, I almost exclusively see 18 or 19 year olds in high school or college and I never waste time at a bar it's usually straight to the FC. Occasionally we do coffee if she's very green and nervous.
Case in point, my first regular was a blonde bombshell high school senior who showed up at my hotel room for $300. It was her first time being paid and I spent 7 hours defiling her, no limits. After that we met 3-4 times a month until she went off to college, all for $200 each time.
Sure, if I didn't have game I'd offer more but I haven't found I'm missing many marks that way. And I see what you are saying about undercover pros, but I usually look for the newest 18-19 yos and they aren't pros, just niave as to what they can charge. $300 is a ton of money for a teenager.
You are undoubtedly paying far more for the same girls I see, and I would never sit with one of these girls for dinner.
I saw this thread and didn't really ever consider signing up for SA but I took the plunge a few weeks ago when they had that 1 week special.
From someone who has been doing the escort / massage thing for years, I always preferred having a friend with benefits who I pay. I actually had a girl like this who I met off craigslist years ago who I ended up having an arrangement with. Funny thing is when I signed up for SA sure enough she is not only on the site but a premium member. In fact some of you have reviewed her on here. Crazy! I never knew but makes sense. I always said I wish I had a few more girls like her but never knew how to find them. When I saw her on SA, I had a feeling I needed to explore this.
Anyways I signed up for a week and got 4 numbers. One is a beautiful 19 year old who spent the night a few days ago. I can't say enough how amazing it was. We did everything, everything BB. Didn't really sleep all night bc we were having sex every few hours. Met another beautiful girl for a meet and greet yesterday and will be having her over this week. SA is truly amazing.
Some things I have learned.
Stay under 27 years old. Any girl above that age is usually an escort, nothing wrong with that but not what I am looking for. I want that young college girl who I can actually have a friendship with and the intimacy part. Any girl over 27 will be very transactional, which is fine if that's your thing.
Be normal and demonstrate you have a personality and you can make some good connections. I treat it as a dating site, seeking that chemistry, and I don't even bring up money until we have been talking for awhile. If she brings up money right away then you know right there that she's a pro / escort.
When talking about money I say I used to have a friend who I had that kind of relationship and this is how it worked with her and then I bring up price (300). Also explain why you are on SA, I say that I am too busy with my career to have a normal relationship so I prefer a cool friend who is younger that there's no pressure and I can help. Stress that you want purely a fun relationship and they are usually seeking the same thing.
Always do a meet and greet at a bar or coffee shop for your first meet. Always go into saying that you have something to do right after so it sets expectations for both that it truly is to get to know one another and nothing physical for that initial meeting. This groundwork is crucial in my opinion for an on going arrangement. After the meeting you can text and move on to a intimate second meeting where you pay her and have her over.
Also I saw some reviewer talking about scamming girls. These are mostly young girls looking for help so I don't think you should go into this trying to see how little you can pay her and 'scam". Gives us all a bad name.
Anyways SA is really amazing and I have made 2 great connections. These 2 are literally model material, it's crazy. I met a 3rd who wasn't as hot as the first 2 but the chemistry wasn't really there. I wouldn't rule out seeing her again but I just don't have time bc I have hit it off with my other 2.
Anyways those are my 2 cents and no I will not give up who the girls I am seeing are LOL. I am keeping them for myself, even though I know they are seeing others but again that's part of the game, no big deal.
Stay safe and be nice to the girls and treat them well!
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4261519]How you approach it is your business but I pay $200-$400 for no time limit dates often. These aren't pros, I almost exclusively see 18 or 19 year olds in high school or college and I never waste time at a bar it's usually straight to the FC. Occasionally we do coffee if she's very green and nervous.
Case in point, my first regular was a blonde bombshell high school senior who showed up at my hotel room for $300. It was her first time being paid and I spent 7 hours defiling her, no limits. After that we met 3-4 times a month until she went off to college, all for $200 each time.
Sure, if I didn't have game I'd offer more but I haven't found I'm missing many marks that way. And I see what you are saying about undercover pros, but I usually look for the newest 18-19 yos and they aren't pros, just niave as to what they can charge. $300 is a ton of money for a teenager.
You are undoubtedly paying far more for the same girls I see, and I would never sit with one of these girls for dinner.[/QUOTE]I can hardly get most of these girls to message me back, LOL. Are you very good looking, tall, in great shape, and wealthy? Do you show that off on your profile? What are your photos and bio like? It sounds to me like a lot of these girls would be down to hook up with you in real life without the whole compensation or "sugar daddy" thing.
[QUOTE=Deranged;4261620]I can hardly get most of these girls to message me back, LOL. Are you very good looking, tall, in great shape, and wealthy? Do you show that off on your profile? What are your photos and bio like? It sounds to me like a lot of these girls would be down to hook up with you in real life without the whole compensation or "sugar daddy" thing.[/QUOTE]Ya, I'm good looking. Hard to meet 18 yos when you're an adult though haha. I don't have photos on my profile.
Also strongly agree with Tophat31 that the older you get the more likely they will just be escorts. I don't enjoy escorts, just no interest. However, I rarely do an initial M&G. There are so many fresh girls joining every day that I rarely see a girl twice, and most of these girls don't last long. They are amateurs and this hobby chews them up and spits them out.
As for guys lowballing and scamming, don't scam. But if you can get an 18yo perfect 10 model to you hotel for $50, do it. "Gives us all a bad name." LOL, we are looking to turn college girls into H**kers, I don't think that's giving me much credit to my good name regardless of how gentle I am or how much beer/coke money I give them... This stuff ain't good for these girls, period. I don't know why some people here feel the need to try and rationalize that it is. If it's not you, it's someone else. We are their daddies but not their fathers.
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4261864]Ya, I'm good looking. Hard to meet 18 yos when you're an adult though haha. I don't have photos on my profile.
Also strongly agree with Tophat31 that the older you get the more likely they will just be escorts. I don't enjoy escorts, just no interest. However, I rarely do an initial M&G. There are so many fresh girls joining every day that I rarely see a girl twice, and most of these girls don't last long. They are amateurs and this hobby chews them up and spits them out.
As for guys lowballing and scamming, don't scam. But if you can get an 18yo perfect 10 model to you hotel for $50, do it. "Gives us all a bad name." LOL, we are looking to turn college girls into H**kers, I don't think that's giving me much credit to my good name regardless of how gentle I am or how much beer/coke money I give them... This stuff ain't good for these girls, period. I don't know why some people here feel the need to try and rationalize that it is. If it's not you, it's someone else. We are their daddies but not their fathers.[/QUOTE]Dude, you don't have photos on your profile? What insane lines are you using to get these girls to hang out with you then, LOL.
Side note. It's a bit awkward how the auto-correct on this forum automatically processes all of the "LOL" words to "LOL. " among other weird corrections that make my posts sound like I'm over the age of 65. The word correction tool must have been written by older people who aren't familiar with the way people under the age of 40 talk online these days, hehe.
I have the same question too. Most of the time the girl or I initiated a conversation and she would stop responding 2 or 3 sentences into the convo. :
I'm in my mid-40's though I look like I'm in my mid-30's. I'm not particularly handsome but not ugly either. However, I'm short and on the skinny side (though toned, just not much muscle). I think having good look is important especially among the younger SBs. I never had a public photo, just a few private photos. Couple days ago, I decided to use a public photo but obscure my face for privacy. I noticed a drastic increase in interest, SBs that favorited me etc. Not that that's still guarantee to close any deal but at least it's a start.
I am going to start working out to try to build some muscles. Hopefully it will help.
[QUOTE=Deranged;4261934]Dude, you don't have photos on your profile? What insane lines are you using to get these girls to hang out with you then, LOL.
Side note. It's a bit awkward how the auto-correct on this forum automatically processes all of the "LOL" words to "LOL. " among other weird corrections that make my posts sound like I'm over the age of 65. The word correction tool must have been written by older people who aren't familiar with the way people under the age of 40 talk online these days, hehe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4261864]Ya, I'm good looking. Hard to meet 18 yos when you're an adult though haha. I don't have photos on my profile.
Also strongly agree with Tophat31 that the older you get the more likely they will just be escorts. I don't enjoy escorts, just no interest. However, I rarely do an initial M&G. There are so many fresh girls joining every day that I rarely see a girl twice, and most of these girls don't last long. They are amateurs and this hobby chews them up and spits them out.
As for guys lowballing and scamming, don't scam. But if you can get an 18yo perfect 10 model to you hotel for $50, do it. "Gives us all a bad name." LOL, we are looking to turn college girls into H**kers, I don't think that's giving me much credit to my good name regardless of how gentle I am or how much beer/coke money I give them... This stuff ain't good for these girls, period. I don't know why some people here feel the need to try and rationalize that it is. If it's not you, it's someone else. We are their daddies but not their fathers.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I don't have pictures showing my face and the pics that are on there are of someone shaped like me. My entire goal is to get the girl out for a M&G and it's all game from there. Most of the chicks I meet would go back to the FC with me with little to no allowance.
This one scammed a friend of mine recently. Did a cash and dash.
Buyer beware.
She is in Fredericksburg.
[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4262762]This one scammed a friend of mine recently. Did a cash and dash.
Buyer beware.
She is in Fredericksburg.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Here is the link.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/031f1074-c17b-4f39-9c74-ad78c3d5220e[/URL]