Would you call this a success ?
Livelinks. Tried it. Mostly women wanting BF's. Some wanted more. I had two callers. One stated she was a stripper at Deja Vu and wanted 'adult fun'. She was said she had a driver. Well I called Deja Vu and nobody ever heard of her and the driver thing stinks. Passed.
Second caller. Gave me her number. Asked to meet at night. Told me she would be ready in 15 minutes. 45 mins later she called and said she ran out of gas and wanted me to pick her up on the highway. It was 20 degrees out so I did. I got the gas first. That date took 2 hours when I told others I'd be home in 45 mins.
I made other mistakes. She mentioned cash too often and the other C word. Over the phone. I should have darted but figured with all the calls I made to her that she was legit. She was.
Moral of the story. Ask least for me is skip LL's. With the price of the minutes for LL's and the phone minutes plus the date, I would have been a lot better off using my $ for other pursuits.
You go Boomer! Let 'er rip!
You are a strict instructor, but your students will profit!
BTW, saw a couple of friendly ladies in OTR recently--neither looked really enticing, but not zero. All of the cautions still apply. And we should ALL be cautious of LE posing as mongers...
Giani
[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic]If a woman tells you she has a driver, meaning she doesn't drive herself, I would bet 90% of the time it is a "SCAM. " So NEVER EVER, have them meet you at your place. NEVER! Don't meet them at their place either, for that is their home ground. A real scam setup! Never give Money Upfront.
That is if you still decide to use them regardless of the Warnings.
Most of the Chat Lines are Money Rip-Offs, because they allow women to have free minutes, while the men pay for theirs. I am surprised someone has not sued them about that. Isn't it SUPPOSE to be Equal. Most of the Chat Line, are not worth it, not because of the women on them. They are Plenty and you can get Laid within a very short time, but the Lines themselves are Rip-Offs.
They want men to spend for everything. "EVERYTHING! "
If some Escort/Woman runs out of gas coming over to meet me at some place, then she will be SOL. I ain't about to come out to get her. If she ain't responsible enough put enough gas in her tank or know she didn't have enough to go #XX miles, then she needs to be left on the side of the road, in 20 degree weather. Enough is Enough, Some of these SW need to use some Common Sense, or as I have read UnCommon Sense!
Standing in the Freezing Cold Air, Snow, and Freezing Rain, will make anyone come to their Senses, and start thinking straight quickly. Very Quickly !!![/QUOTE]
Stupidity At A Glance !!!!
This SW was some Crack Head "POSIN" as an Escort. No decent Escort would ever have you coming out to pick her up unless she really did have car troubles. Running out of Gas is Not, ligit car troubles. You should have left her Azz in the Cold. This ain't info you need to even ask about. UnCommon Sense Right? This woman was/is Stupid, and she depends on you being as stupid as she is, "Don't Be"!
In 20 degree weather with No gas, No coat, and on the Expressway. Priceless!
Then on top of that, to even dare give you "Attitude", about Anything?
I would have forced her Azz, right back out of the car, and drove off.
Still, you did the deed, and she got her gas, ride, and money.
Alone and broke was how you met her, alone and broke is how you leave her.
Take No Attitude from Any SW. She ain't a FREE service.
If she were FREE, then you might have too, but very limited.
Like it was posted before, folks use more Uncommon Sense to pick a TV, a Frig/Stove, Hair-Cut, or pair of gloves, than they do for a decent SW.
An SW is No more than a Sales Rep. Selling herself.
If she ain't worth buying, then why buy her. Why Even Bother?
You can't be that, "Hard Up"?
It really is your Money, Until you gave it to Her, then it is Her money, but not until!
Control your SW Money like you do your Stocks, Bonds, IRA's, and Etc.
It's Your Money! Everyone should take that Attitude. EVERYONE!
[QUOTE=Fanofyours7]Thanks for the info Mr. B. BTW, she had the nerve to think I was short-changing her at the end. At that point I thought I should have left her with no gas. She was dumb enough to go out with no gas and NO COAT! Car was on the side of the road miles from anything.
NOTE: If I am posting too much or posting about dumb crap then someone tell me. This is your place. I'm just a visitor.[/QUOTE]
Sixty Dollars. I Told Ya!
Someone is screwing up the works for everyone else, and we may NEVER know who. Once you come out of your pocket Big Time over any SW, for any reason, you F_ck It Up for everyone. It just takes a few times, and the damage is done.
I saw a really decent WSW in the OTR/WE area, in fact there were 3-4 of them. All within a block or two of each other. Of course I had not seen these SW's before, or things would have been different. I finally got the approach range from my distance, and we caught Eye contact. She looked to be about 23-25y, and very naive. She was too uncertain getting into the car, so I had to be more than firm about getting in and shutting the door. She then did.
We did the OLD Security thing, and out of the area we go. She asked what I wanted, I told her everything, she said she normalyl gets "Sixty" and No Less.
I said, "Oh No, Not for this area. This ain't NYC / LAX. " She said that is what the other men (Tricks) have been paying. I said since when? She said she has been out for about 4 hour that day and 6 the day before, and was getting 60-75 for service. Now, I have my doubts, but she would not move on her price.
I then told her I'd let her out right here at the next corner, not far from where I picked her up, and she said fine. She was ready to get out. I have to believe if she were not getting that price, or had not been paid that, she would have worked out some kind of deal. She would rather have nothing than something.
She looked like she might be new to the crack scene, so it will be a matter of time before she will be discounting the price to 20-25 or less.
But for now, Sixty Dollar Street SW's is Totally UnAcceptable.
Even Forty Dollars is too high. Your Max should always be Thirty or less.
It was reported in a previous post during the Summer I think by Word, who warned us about SW, starting to ask for more money, because they knew they were better looking, than the rest of the available SW's in the area.
And there little Toy Pimps were making them ask for that price, and to settle for nothing less. The Pimps got arrested, and jailed, and the whole price scale collapsed.
If no one pays the price, then they have to stop asking for it, and the price will automatically fall, and keep falling.
It is just a few Bad Apples that Spoil it for the rest of Us, and You Know Who You Are. Don't you wanna "Head Smack them"!
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Reasonable Price Scale...
Do NOT succumb to inflated fee schedules! Mr. Boomer says and did exactly the right thing, and so should all knowledgeable mongers.
While I do not aim for rock bottom prices, these are general Cincy rates:
0.2 + tip for BBBJCIM
0.4 + tip for CFS.
I may be willing to negotiate a little for service from a fresh SW with looks above 8. Also, if I know her, and know that she is exceptionally skilled and a GFE, I give her a raise. With the raise, she is happy and eager to see me the next time (I like that...)
On the other hand, mongers need to exert a FIRM hand from the start. As always, negotiate only after LE checks are made and you are out of the red zone. But... I no longer ask what she is asking. Always, once negotiations open, tell her what you alway pay. If she is not willing to budge on inflated prices like I see posted, tell her a matter of factly (with no hesitation or hostility) "Thanks anyway, but you are out of my price range. I'll take you back." Period. Turn around on the dime. Often, she will reconsider. But do NOT negotiate to a point much above the prices listed above. Dropping them back off is the best move you can make for obvious reasons. Do yourself and your fellow mongers the favor.
BTW--Trannys are sometimes more common than SWs. Here is a picture of one recently... If they are too tall, too thin, and too obviously in hooker attire... Look out
Giani