"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=KingKane;5957238]An SB on SA just let me in on a little secret. The site says that the girls are "currently online" for a full hour after they Log-off. I don't know if it's the same for us men. It's a money making scheme. SA is trying to make us believe that there are hundreds of girls that will sell their time, currently online, ready to chat. I thought the girls were ignoring me! It turns out, they weren't even online when I messaged them. They probably didn't get my message until days later.[/QUOTE]Online = logged into the app. You can minimize the app (say on the phone) and it will still show online. Many folks just don't log out. Also if you have say 60 messages and 40 likes etc. They just tune out and its a crap shoot. Not saying all girls do this. Some professional SBs are diligent, others have too much time on their hands, some can't check the app always. Etc.

[QUOTE=DCSeeker;5958975]I don't know what you said to piss the office workers off, but I saw a girl from sirens in a hotel last night.

I know they're very selective who they will send a girl to.[/QUOTE]If you call drunk, belligerent or you say you heard about them on an online forum, they will not do business with you.

[QUOTE=Gulf0521;5958626]I tried to call them to schedule a girl. Was informed they won't come to a Hotel. Maybe I spooked the attendant. Is this their policy? I'd appreciate feedback on this. I travel to VA often so I'd like to try them.[/QUOTE]You must have spooked the receptionist. Or maybe that receptionist was new, but they go to hotels.

[QUOTE=Gulf0521;5958626]I tried to call them to schedule a girl. Was informed they won't come to a Hotel. Maybe I spooked the attendant. Is this their policy? I'd appreciate feedback on this. I travel to VA often so I'd like to try them.[/QUOTE]IDK why this Sirens discussion is on this thread. These aren't sugarbanbies.

With a grand total of 6 posts you have it all worked out? No, you need to get some more fiber in your diet. There are all kinds in the sugar bowl. You're describing money babies. Get a little game and try it in the wild, you'll find shy girls with daddy issues who just want a strong role model in their lives. You'll find single moms who want a guy who will just take them out of the house once or twice a week, pay the babysitter and grind them silly. Get a little more experience before you try to explain sugar world.

[QUOTE=KingKane;5950966]I'm not going to "make-believe" that I'm actually dating these girls. The sheer fact that we have to negotiate with SBs means that if we don't agree to give them a certain amount of money, they wouldn't touch us with a 10-ft pole. It means that anytime spent with us is excruciating for them and they have to hold down their vomit and laugh at all of our jokes so they can get their money. You're paying someone for their time, you're paying them to be there. If they weren't getting paid what they want, they wouldn't be there. I have no idea how some of you guys can misconstrue that into them liking you in some way. That's absurd; they need financial help. They might lie and say they like you. If your boss asked you if you really liked him as a person, wouldn't you say yes with a big smile on your face? Of course you would. Common sense.[/QUOTE]

I am coming up to the end of my month membership, I always let it lapse. I have a few, though, that I am interacting with that have big potential. I wanted to copy all of our messaging on the site so I could recall it. I have done this before.

However, that doesn't work now. If you select all of the conversation, and copy / paste, all that goes into your word processor is the time of the messages. Unless anyone has a good work-around. I am definitely not going to be able to cut and paste each message individually. If there was something crucial I could screen-shot it, but.

Sigh.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5959821]I am coming up to the end of my month membership, I always let it lapse. I have a few, though, that I am interacting with that have big potential. I wanted to copy all of our messaging on the site so I could recall it. I have done this before.

However, that doesn't work now. If you select all of the conversation, and copy / paste, all that goes into your word processor is the time of the messages. Unless anyone has a good work-around. I am definitely not going to be able to cut and paste each message individually. If there was something crucial I could screen-shot it, but.

Sigh.[/QUOTE]I just tried it. I can copy a long message thread and paste it over into a draft email or document. I am not sure what you are trying but copying works for me. I will admit it takes up too much space. I make notes on key information and then copy the notes over into a profile I have saved elsewhere. My method is to save as you go for anything important. I started doing this because sometimes women would delete their profiles and consequently delete all my notes. I don't do this for everyone just the ones I really like.

BAM.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5959391]IDK why this Sirens discussion is on this thread. These aren't sugarbanbies.[/QUOTE]Most of the sirens girls are either currently on SA or used to be. Girls looking for financial help use more than one app or avenue.

[QUOTE=BamBam;5960102]I just tried it. I can copy a long message thread and paste it over into a draft email or document. I am not sure what you are trying but copying works for me. I will admit it takes up too much space. I make notes on key information and then copy the notes over into a profile I have saved elsewhere. My method is to save as you go for anything important. I started doing this because sometimes women would delete their profiles and consequently delete all my notes. I don't do this for everyone just the ones I really like.

BAM.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the support. I switched browsers and it worked OK. I was using Safari in safe mode on a Mac. YK how it is, sometimes your particular machine or app gets a glitch in it that causes this sort of thing. I did try the obvious, reboot, clearing the cache, etc.

I got it to work using Tor on a Mac. I typically have not liked to use Tor. Sometimes on SA, it does not work at all, often it is very slow, which I attribute to one of the 4 onion servers your signal is going through having limited bandwidth. However, I was able to get some conversations archived from my most recent stint on the site.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5959821]I am coming up to the end of my month membership, I always let it lapse. I have a few, though, that I am interacting with that have big potential. I wanted to copy all of our messaging on the site so I could recall it. I have done this before.

However, that doesn't work now. If you select all of the conversation, and copy / paste, all that goes into your word processor is the time of the messages. Unless anyone has a good work-around. I am definitely not going to be able to cut and paste each message individually. If there was something crucial I could screen-shot it, but.

Sigh.[/QUOTE]It does kind of blow. Definitely downhill over the last few years, but alas with some work it still yields some results. I monger on and off through the years like I play golf, sometimes more and sometimes less. But back to the topic of SA blows, it is like Snoop Dog / Nate dog says: No matter where I go, I see the same hoes. Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=MikeJones1962;5961998]It does kind of blow. Definitely downhill over the last few years, but alas with some work it still yields some results. I monger on and off through the years like I play golf, sometimes more and sometimes less. But back to the topic of SA blows, it is like Snoop Dog / Nate dog says: No matter where I go, I see the same hoes. Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]In terms of finding girls, I think it is unmatched. They make things a technical challenge, however.

I posted a report of my most recent SB on the Los Angeles sugar thread if you want to know how I'm doing.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5956751]Any thoughts pros and cons on seeing married women?

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]I had a great time with a married SB years ago. Discretion on both sides works. But getting both schedules to work is the issue. I'm married and now retired. I didn't have to account for my time whe I worked. But now I do. I was fortunate that the stars aligned on our first meeting as both spouses were out of town. Then she would have to take off of work for afternoon meetings. It just became too difficult once I retired. We are still friends but both miss the encounters.

Be creative, take up a hobby that involves hours out of contact like hunting, fishing, golf.

[QUOTE=Passport4;5962861]I had a great time with a married SB years ago. Discretion on both sides works. But getting both schedules to work is the issue. I'm married and now retired. I didn't have to account for my time whe I worked. But now I do. I was fortunate that the stars aligned on our first meeting as both spouses were out of town. Then she would have to take off of work for afternoon meetings. It just became too difficult once I retired. We are still friends but both miss the encounters.[/QUOTE]

I was banned 2 weeks ago but I now have a new profile w / no pic but I have not yet paid for a premium membership. If I use a different credit card from the card I used before banned will I be ok, or get banned again because the card will have my same name and address as the old card. What advice do you guys have?

[QUOTE=BagIt;5963758]I was banned 2 weeks ago but I now have a new profile w / no pic but I have not yet paid for a premium membership. If I use a different credit card from the card I used before banned will I be ok, or get banned again because the card will have my same name and address as the old card. What advice do you guys have?[/QUOTE]Very likely they'll post the charge, wait for it to clear then ban you.

[QUOTE=Passport4;5962861]I had a great time with a married SB years ago. Discretion on both sides works. But getting both schedules to work is the issue. I'm married and now retired. I didn't have to account for my time whe I worked. But now I do. I was fortunate that the stars aligned on our first meeting as both spouses were out of town. Then she would have to take off of work for afternoon meetings. It just became too difficult once I retired. We are still friends but both miss the encounters.[/QUOTE]In the bowl for more than 2 decades. Now retired. Gym is the best excuse for more reasons than one.

Do not use an old CC.

Go to walmart and buy a prepaid CC. Register it on walmartgift (fake name and address) and use that.

Also, do not use your old laptop or google account.

Buy a burner smartphone. Do not log in to your google account. Access SA only on a web browser.

[QUOTE=BagIt;5963758]I was banned 2 weeks ago but I now have a new profile w / no pic but I have not yet paid for a premium membership. If I use a different credit card from the card I used before banned will I be ok, or get banned again because the card will have my same name and address as the old card. What advice do you guys have?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BagIt;5963758]I was banned 2 weeks ago but I now have a new profile w / no pic but I have not yet paid for a premium membership. If I use a different credit card from the card I used before banned will I be ok, or get banned again because the card will have my same name and address as the old card. What advice do you guys have?[/QUOTE]What others have said is true, getting back on can be TOUGH!

You need to search this thread for "banned" and read the posts as there has been A LOT of conversation on how to get back on once banned!

Don't recall the exact steps, but do remember the site has a record of your MAC address and unless you change that, you'll get banned again. Also as others have said, you can't use ANY of the "old" info, pics, CC, email, etc. It is a TOTAL starting over- New Monger identity.

Reason I mention all of this as it sounds like your haven't a clue about the reach and extent of the surveillance SA does and what steps are needed to get back on the site. So take some time and "get educated" about what they do and the cumbersome process. It can be done, but unfortunately there is no easy fix. Also once you get back on, I suggest coming back here and asking "how to" questions as apparently youse need to adjust a few things with your approach.

Oh and not every prepaid card is accepted by SA, so look at the thread for that info. I think the prepaid that worked recently (10 days) for me was Secure Spend. It is the successor to OneVanilla. I think they changed as to avoid confusion with the numerous "Vanilla" cards that are out there. See pic.

SA is doing all of this to protect them self and its cash cow. Don't think SA is up to the $100+MM / year profits that BP had but middle 10's of $MM ain't shabby. Backpage ignored numerous warnings and NGO helpful suggestions and Congress had to pass laws to shut them down. SA could see the writing on the wall and is EXTREMELY vigilant in keeping prostitution, sex trafficking and under-aged stuff off of its website. It is the only way possible for them to keep operating and provide a service to you, and not get shutdown. Is it strict? Sure is! But SA otherwise is too easy a target and apparently Brandon Wade doesn't think he looks good in an orange jumpsuit.

This is all doable, so hang in there & good luck!

[QUOTE=Round3;5954754]This looks like Lauren from years back who had monkey problems and a lot of mixed reviews over the years.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b77ac9e2-b5e4-44b1-b242-322a7e05672b[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes she's back from a short vacation. Gained a fair amount of weight and does not look very good frankly. And you always have to be careful, don't let her wander off with your money (eg "I got to give the cash to my friend real quick I'll be right back" LOL.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5964063]
Don't recall the exact steps, but do remember the site has a record of your MAC address and unless you change that, you'll get banned again. Also as others have said, you can't use ANY of the "old" info, pics, CC, email, etc. It is a TOTAL starting over- New Monger identity.
[/QUOTE]My understanding is.

In TCP / IP, MAC address doesn't go beyond your router / modem.

MAC address is on a lower layer of the OSI model than IP address.

Not quite sure if a website can grab it but would be interested if you have any info that sheds more light on it.

Anyone seen this gal? Ha e a meet setup for Wednesday, and she seems almost TGTBT!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb1c8d25-af3e-49e5-9fb8-bd005fd50bc9[/URL]

[QUOTE=VAvet;5964271]Yes she's back from a short vacation. Gained a fair amount of weight and does not look very good frankly. And you always have to be careful, don't let her wander off with your money (eg "I got to give the cash to my friend real quick I'll be right back" LOL.[/QUOTE]When you say vacation, do you mean at a gray bar resort or just took time off this hobby? I never had the experience above with her but all my meets were at her residence. My time with her was always a positive one. Sometimes tough to schedule with but definitely can't complain about my visits with her.

Stay safe.

RR.

[QUOTE=RomanRich;5964758]When you say vacation, do you mean at a gray bar resort or just took time off this hobby? I never had the experience above with her but all my meets were at her residence. My time with her was always a positive one. Sometimes tough to schedule with but definitely can't complain about my visits with her.

Stay safe.

RR.[/QUOTE]One could say vacationing at a gated community, LOL.

[QUOTE=SrUnderbridge;5964727]Anyone seen this gal? Ha e a meet setup for Wednesday, and she seems almost TGTBT!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb1c8d25-af3e-49e5-9fb8-bd005fd50bc9[/URL][/QUOTE]She looks great, let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;5964773]One could say vacationing at a gated community, LOL.[/QUOTE]And fenced amd spotlighted.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;5964835]She looks great, let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Buddy of mine says she wants $500.

I am also communicating with her as well.

Please let me know if she is for real.

Please PM me if you can.

[QUOTE=SrUnderbridge;5964727]Anyone seen this gal? Ha e a meet setup for Wednesday, and she seems almost TGTBT!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb1c8d25-af3e-49e5-9fb8-bd005fd50bc9[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SrUnderbridge;5964727]Anyone seen this gal? Ha e a meet setup for Wednesday, and she seems almost TGTBT!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb1c8d25-af3e-49e5-9fb8-bd005fd50bc9[/URL][/QUOTE]I am always leery of profiles under 21 - especially if they look reeeallly young. There are two risks: Uncle entrapment or blackmail gang. The way to avoid both is to make sure the first meeting is somewhere neutral for lunch or coffee. LEO doesn't have time for this. Doing so will also allow you to (further) exercise your spidey senses prior to going anywhere private. Make sure your op-sec is sound against any blackmail attempt. Should the worst happen, come back to the board for advice before acting. Lot's of guys here have had experience with these types (myself included) and we can help quell any sense of panic when/if you get threatened.

BAM.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;5964835]She looks great, let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]Asked me to text in 2nd message. Nebraska area code on her burner number. A) lots of 20 somethings use their real number, they don't care, and have a plausible story why it isn't local B) those who get a GV or other shielded number usually stick to a local one because to non-scammers is never occurs to them to pick one so far afield.

[QUOTE=BaldEagle;5965543]Buddy of mine says she wants $500.[/QUOTE]Hmm. She agreed to 200 for me.

Also asked if I liked to be intimate. Uh, duh, that's why I'm on SA. She did send mildly spicy pics (underboob, no nips) and asked if I wanted more, and then what would I offer in return? Sounds like a pic seller.

Yeah, my spidey sense is going off big time. I'll pass. I have a cute little gal lined up for tomorrow anyway, and that one has been vetted by board members.

[QUOTE=SrUnderbridge;5966595]Hmm. She agreed to 200 for me.

Also asked if I liked to be intimate. Uh, duh, that's why I'm on SA. She did send mildly spicy pics (underboob, no nips) and asked if I wanted more, and then what would I offer in return? Sounds like a pic seller.

Yeah, my spidey sense is going off big time. I'll pass. I have a cute little gal lined up for tomorrow anyway, and that one has been vetted by board members.[/QUOTE]Who is this gal you speak of? I'm always looking for a new spinner.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;5966661]Who is this gal you speak of? I'm always looking for a new spinner.[/QUOTE]Rixxi on SA.

As has been said in every single Star Wars, "I've got a bad feeling about this". Two benjies for a smoking hot college age girl? So be careful if you go for it.

[QUOTE=SrUnderbridge;5966792]Rixxi on SA.

As has been said in every single Star Wars, "I've got a bad feeling about this". Two benjies for a smoking hot college age girl? So be careful if you go for it.[/QUOTE]I was talking to her tonight, agreed to 300, sent photos that I never got. Once I told her the photos failed to come through ghosted me. Hope it goes well.

I need to learn more about females. My new SB (posted a first FC report about her on the Los Angeles sugar thread) and I are trying to set up a schedule. I usually see my regulars weekly, but that in the past has meant 3 x / mo b / c of her monthly. I ask new girl about this, she says that we don't have to take a week off, the BC she is on makes her monthly go away, effectively. Please advise. Why don't all women do this?

So, like I said, I usually see SBs once / week. Haven't had anyone regular lately though. Had a FC w / my new SB, and after, my hamstrings are killing me. Limp around for like a day or two. Not necessarily a good thing for the SO to see either. This has been my experience w / SBs I have seen since the post-pandemic re-opening. I am 'of a certain age', but like many of us older SDs, I go to the gym a lot to try to keep in shape and make myself presentable for girls half my age. But perhaps I am not doing the right exercises to keep my 'sex muscles' in top form. Do any of you have insight into this?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5966918]I need to learn more about females. My new SB (posted a first FC report about her on the Los Angeles sugar thread) and I are trying to set up a schedule. I usually see my regulars weekly, but that in the past has meant 3 x / mo b / c of her monthly. I ask new girl about this, she says that we don't have to take a week off, the BC she is on makes her monthly go away, effectively. Please advise. Why don't all women do this?[/QUOTE]Yeah well, not every girl's body responds well to oral contraceptives. At least as I have been told. Some get shorter periods and less flow others have side effects. Usually a girl knows her body in that regard so go with what she says.

Now the other thing is the concept of getting your "red wings" a term for having sex while she is on her period and ending up with red on your thighs. Often times the smell is strong and objectionable and visually is isn't the greatest look, but it's still sex. Can't tell you how many times a girl has looked down after sex and seen red on the condom and said "Oh, I didn't know I was starting my period!" Go wash it off, the skin is a pretty good protective barrier, IF intact.

I mean it is like doing anal sex, if a girl sees shit on your dick, she's gunna freak out. Sometimes the same thing with period sex. We have an open attitude about sex, but seem to be generally squeamish about bodily fluids, etc.

So if the girl says it is OK to play on a certain day, go with her word. IF there is any chance that will freak you out seeing period residue, then just make sure she knows your desire to avoid such. A girl who doesn't respect that wish-.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5967348]Now the other thing is the concept of getting your "red wings" a term for having sex while she is on her period and ending up with red on your thighs. Often times the smell is strong and objectionable and visually is isn't the greatest look, but it's still sex. Can't tell you how many times a girl has looked down after sex and seen red on the condom and said "Oh, I didn't know I was starting my period!" Go wash it off, the skin is a pretty good protective barrier, IF intact.

So if the girl says it is OK to play on a certain day, go with her word. IF there is any chance that will freak you out seeing period residue, then just make sure she knows your desire to avoid such. A girl who doesn't respect that wish-.[/QUOTE]I honestly think she's on something specific that is making this happen. The feeling I got from the convo. She is militantly against kids, so she might have something different than the pill. An implant??

And, of course I have had the experience of pulling out (w / my past GFs / SOs and SBs) and seeing a little red there. That isn't a big issue for me. I had a less fun experience w / my first / best SB, who had a very regimented schedule. We got together and ostensibly she wasn't on her period, but she obviously was cutting it close, b / c when I went to DATY, I could taste blood. Not the most pleasant, but she presumably didn't want to wait another week to FC.

Anyway, b / c blood is a bodily fluid like others I am trying to avoid, and the whole idea isn't appealing, I think I will pass on specifically getting red wings.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;5966824]I was talking to her tonight, agreed to 300, sent photos that I never got. Once I told her the photos failed to come through ghosted me. Hope it goes well.[/QUOTE]I feel left out as she hasn't read my message yet. I think her inbox is busy with her being the center of attention. I am more curious on what price I get quoted since I am over 60. A senior citizens discount would be nice!

[QUOTE=SrUnderbridge;5966792]Rixxi on SA.

As has been said in every single Star Wars, "I've got a bad feeling about this". Two benjies for a smoking hot college age girl? So be careful if you go for it.[/QUOTE]Offered her $100 for a fully clothed, 15 min Snapchat video call and she declined.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5966934]So, like I said, I usually see SBs once / week. Haven't had anyone regular lately though. Had a FC w / my new SB, and after, my hamstrings are killing me. Limp around for like a day or two. Not necessarily a good thing for the SO to see either. This has been my experience w / SBs I have seen since the post-pandemic re-opening. I am 'of a certain age', but like many of us older SDs, I go to the gym a lot to try to keep in shape and make myself presentable for girls half my age. But perhaps I am not doing the right exercises to keep my 'sex muscles' in top form. Do any of you have insight into this?[/QUOTE]I tend to do most of my fucking from the standing position, so for me its hips and thighs. I work out 5 days a week, so fi I'm planning a sugar date, Ill start complaining to the wife how the work out kicked my butt.

But their have been times after a great FC session, that I'm getting up from the couch and let out a groan or other sound of discomfort and my instinct is "What does that hurt?" but before I say anything my little head remind the big head of the days exertion!