Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Agreed. The H epidemic has significant collateral damage in this hobby (but it is not unique to the hobby). This board is testament to an unprecedented volume of H-based DEATHS and incarcerations. Both the CVG and Dayton boards have mentioned at least a half-dozen I recall just in the past year (probably more if I took the time to count) mostly on the SW and Craigslist threads. Add the Columbus board and it likely doubles. Your point about escalated fear in this hobby rings loudly. Thanks again to Jackson and A2 for this amazing resource to help keep us safe. But my internal dilemma is this: are we hobbyists contributing to the problem when we engage these known H-using SP's? Or, are we at least helping to keep them fed and alive? Before you chime-in, I do know this: though many / most may be hooked beyond their ability to unhook themselves, many (and some on this very board) knowingly choose to remain on the H hook (or other substances) as a lifestyle.

Harry.

[QUOTE=GMichael;3194967]Am I the only one that peruses the ads and thinks 90% of the girls out there seem to be total messes? I long for the days of Taylors Elite and Miami Companions. Don't get me wrong. There are some amazing local ladies that provide outstanding service. But you have to sift through alot of crap to find them. Saw in an earlier post where someone referenced Boner. LOL. Whatever happened to that guy? Whatever happened to Buddah? Steve from EE is an old school throwback who personally has always done great by me. While drugs have always been apart of this hobby, heroin has taken the fun out of it and replaced it with fear. How many countless providers have either succumbed to it or are fighting it's grip? I guess I just miss the days when things seemed much easier. I'd go penniless if I found an UTR who was safe, clean, hot, and was close to my area. I guess I don't have a point. Just ranting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarryHobbiest;3195167]Agreed. The H epidemic has significant collateral damage in this hobby (but it is not unique to the hobby). This board is testament to an unprecedented volume of H-based DEATHS and incarcerations. Both the CVG and Dayton boards have mentioned at least a half-dozen I recall just in the past year (probably more if I took the time to count) mostly on the SW and Craigslist threads. Add the Columbus board and it likely doubles. Your point about escalated fear in this hobby rings loudly. Thanks again to Jackson and A2 for this amazing resource to help keep us safe. But my internal dilemma is this: are we hobbyists contributing to the problem when we engage these known H-using SP's? Or, are we at least helping to keep them fed and alive? Before you chime-in, I do know this: though many / most may be hooked beyond their ability to unhook themselves, many (and some on this very board) knowingly choose to remain on the H hook (or other substances) as a lifestyle.

Harry.[/QUOTE]That's the dilemma I find myself in at this very moment. My ATF is fighting a habit and she keeps choosing the drug over being clean. Maybe they need the drug just to get through some of the BS they have to put up with out here in the hobby. I don't know but I would give the world to see my girl get straight.

[QUOTE=GMichael;3194967]Am I the only one that peruses the ads and thinks 90% of the girls out there seem to be total messes? I long for the days of Taylors Elite and Miami Companions. Don't get me wrong. There are some amazing local ladies that provide outstanding service. But you have to sift through alot of crap to find them. Saw in an earlier post where someone referenced Boner. LOL. Whatever happened to that guy? Whatever happened to Buddah? Steve from EE is an old school throwback who personally has always done great by me. While drugs have always been apart of this hobby, heroin has taken the fun out of it and replaced it with fear. How many countless providers have either succumbed to it or are fighting it's grip? I guess I just miss the days when things seemed much easier. I'd go penniless if I found an UTR who was safe, clean, hot, and was close to my area. I guess I don't have a point. Just ranting.[/QUOTE]Yes, a high percentage of them seem to be a mess. This site has helped me avoid many (but not all) of the hot messes though. A lot of it is due to the H, but I've also seen some where you wonder whether they ever mastered any basic life skills in the first place.

The H las much to do with this.

[QUOTE=GMichael;3194967]Am I the only one that peruses the ads and thinks 90% of the girls out there seem to be total messes? I long for the days of Taylors Elite and Miami Companions. Don't get me wrong. There are some amazing local ladies that provide outstanding service. But you have to sift through alot of crap to find them. Saw in an earlier post where someone referenced Boner. LOL. Whatever happened to that guy? Whatever happened to Buddah? Steve from EE is an old school throwback who personally has always done great by me. While drugs have always been apart of this hobby, heroin has taken the fun out of it and replaced it with fear. How many countless providers have either succumbed to it or are fighting it's grip? I guess I just miss the days when things seemed much easier. I'd go penniless if I found an UTR who was safe, clean, hot, and was close to my area. I guess I don't have a point. Just ranting.[/QUOTE]

I have met a few awesome ladies in this Hobby that like to talk. One special lady gave me her feelings on H and it is truly sad. She told me the details of the first time she ever used and the struggle to stay off of it. Since that conversation I simply can't bring myself to see a girl that is spiraling out of control. This hobby can be a fucking blast sometimes but if you have a Conscience it can be a struggle others.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;3194453]A very Merry Christmas to all and a fantastic night.[/QUOTE]With an elf like that, I hope Santa comes more than once a year.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;3194453]A very Merry Christmas to all and a fantastic night.[/QUOTE]HO HO HO.

Thank you for the early Christmas Card!

TTM.

Thank you so much for all that replied made my day and sorry for late reply been down with a migraine ugh santas elf is here to please and be pleased.

I KNOW I would!

[QUOTE=HarryHendryx;3195864]With an elf like that, I hope Santa comes more than once a year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarryHobbiest;3195167]Agreed. The H epidemic has significant collateral damage in this hobby (but it is not unique to the hobby). This board is testament to an unprecedented volume of H-based DEATHS and incarcerations. Both the CVG and Dayton boards have mentioned at least a half-dozen I recall just in the past year (probably more if I took the time to count) mostly on the SW and Craigslist threads. Add the Columbus board and it likely doubles. Your point about escalated fear in this hobby rings loudly. Thanks again to Jackson and A2 for this amazing resource to help keep us safe. But my internal dilemma is this: are we hobbyists contributing to the problem when we engage these known H-using SP's? Or, are we at least helping to keep them fed and alive? Before you chime-in, I do know this: though many / most may be hooked beyond their ability to unhook themselves, many (and some on this very board) knowingly choose to remain on the H hook (or other substances) as a lifestyle.

Harry.[/QUOTE]My opinion? If prostitution was legalized, regulated, and taxed a system could be set up to screen for disease and substance abuse. Exactly how that would be done, yeah, that's a LONG discussion. The only point I'm trying to make is that prostitution wasn't illegal in the States, wasn't even on the books so to speak, until the early 20th century. It being illegal is making it much harder for providers to get help. I don't think we're ever going to get rid of substance abuse but if prostitution were legal, regulated it would reduce the numbers on substance abuse. Yes, you would also be able to target human traffickers more effectively as well. The only providers, ideally, would be clean (drug and disease) and providing of their own free will. A portion of the taxes collected should also go toward detoxing, counseling, job / skill training, GED completion, college tuition, etc. The "system" we have is myopic and leads to downward spirals for those involved more often than not. However, the taxes collected in the initial roll out would be just a drop in the bucket as there's a tremendous backlog of help needed. It would be a uphill battle economically.

[QUOTE=Tactless;3196274]My opinion? If prostitution was legalized, regulated, and taxed a system could be set up to screen for disease and substance abuse. Exactly how that would be done, yeah, that's a LONG discussion.[/QUOTE]It is legal in Nevada and these things have been addressed. It is my understanding that licensed providers are checked for drugs and sti regularly. Condom use is mandatory. Just need to get it legal in the other 49 states.

Secondly, it wouldn't eliminate the prostitute for drugs. Lessen a lot but not eliminate. However, I'm sure significant consequences for unlicensed prostitution could be steep.

Why don't you start a petition on the White House's website. The President will lock at it if it gets enough signatures.

2016 was a good year overall in the hobby for me. For me, I'd have to say Busty Red and Brenna Nicolee were the highlights, though others were a good time as well with only 2 or 3 duds in the bunch. The common elements for Busty and Brenna were body types that I really like, no issues with incall locations, no drama, no signs of emotional instability at least that I saw, and that type of thing. I've always maintained that one should never totally let their guard down in the hobby, but with those two, it was easy for me to let it down quite a bit. I really need to scale my activity back in 2017 to pay some bills, but I expect I will continue to dabble here and there to maintain my sanity.

Thanks to A2 for offering this forum and directing this circus. Happy holidays and stay safe.

[QUOTE=KnottyWood;3194726]I like to find this under my tree on Christmas morning, any morning so far as that goes.[/QUOTE]I'd need a guarantee though. Other wise bah humbug on the tree.

[QUOTE=ItsTimeToEat;3195573]I have met a few awesome ladies in this Hobby that like to talk. One special lady gave me her feelings on H and it is truly sad. She told me the details of the first time she ever used and the struggle to stay off of it. Since that conversation I simply can't bring myself to see a girl that is spiraling out of control. This hobby can be a fucking blast sometimes but if you have a Conscience it can be a struggle others.[/QUOTE]As a more recent hobbyist I couldn't agree more. It can be really fun one time, and then absolutely soul crushing the next.

As I head out of town, I'd like to wish everybody, ladies and mongers alike, a Merry Christmas. Guys be sure to take care of your favorite ladies, maybe with a gift or tip. Ladies, it's a good time to put forth a little extra effort or offer a discount for the guys who help you earn a living. In fact, showing appreciation for each other works wonders most of the time. For me, I'm especially grateful for my favorite little elf. I'm also glad that all of you help keep us safe by contributing to this site. Merry Christmas and Stay Safe.