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[QUOTE=Rookiemonger;2243716]Dam, she does have a nice ass and some great eraser size nipples!! Send her down to Tampa for a week!![/QUOTE]LOL. Hey bro, I'm trying to get down to where you are at. After watching ghetto / crack working girl confessions and Theatre sluts it seems like Tampa is the place to be.
I had to make the trip north to exchange the Jordan's I got from shoe city Saturday, exchanged them for a pair of Timberlands, got some six too, cause the Tim's were less, and they don't do refunds.
On my way there I saw Deserie from last Saturdays post. Tasha was new to me, thin red head, you could tell she used to be good looking before the meds got to her. She was very feminine, the way she walked and gestured as she walked the circle.
I even saw Amanda, Ranee's old roommate from years ago, standing by the Busy Bee. Bridget was at her usual spot by the playground. The one thing I noticed something about all of them except Bridget to a certain extent .
They all have that ghoulish, night of the living dead skin. LE was nowhere for the first hour, now they're out and about at 3:30 PM. Going to leave my hiding spot under the trees on S Gilmore and take a peek again. I just saw LE car and van head down Wilkins, so it may be a quick look see.
[QUOTE=BoloBellgrande;2243997] They all have that ghoulish, night of the living dead skin. [/QUOTE]Yes, it's a good head start for Halloween make-up.
[QUOTE=Dontaye1;2243252]Decided that I would play today once I got off of work. Didn't really feel like pounding Kiara again since I been banging her out a lot lately. I also didn't want to go around the usual stomping grounds. Since I had to drop a friend off in Pasadena I decided to hit up Shannon to see if she was available to play. Yes she was. Went over and got down to business.
Started off with CBJ and then went to missionary and then pounded doggy. Took off the cover and exploded on her delicious looking ass. Got a few pics. I'm not a nitetimer or Cls with the great photography but I think these turned out okay.
Be safe out there fellas.[/QUOTE]Find indeed want to sample her sometime!
[quote]Hi my name ginger Are you lookin to enjoy a relaxed Sunday filled with pampering and excitement look no further I am a natural red head with full luscious lips and intoxicating grey eyes and 42 ddd's I aim to please very quiet with a great personality pretty open minded and outgoing 50/100/180 incalls 100/180 outcalls.
No vulgar language I do not discuss anything over the phone all pics are 100% me so I do not send pics.[/quote]
Supposed to meet this chick tomorrow. Any info on her?
I cruised around some more, after LE let up a bit. I saw niecey twice walking near Fulton and Ramsey. I made eye contact the first time, but she kept on walking across the street. The second time I saw her, she gave me the head bob.
By the time I turned around and came back up Fulton she was gone, didn't see her again the rest of the day. Shame, she was looking nice in those black pants, her face is starting to look bad again, but she was dressed nice, like she was out shopping.
I gave up for the day, and parked near the circle, so I could get my burger and fries from the corner store. Before I could get to the store, Desiree walked over to me, she said, " what's wrong with me " . I told her nothing, meet me at the rent a room house while I get a condom.
I'd been riding by her all day, and was examining her ass through her jeans. I was trying to figure out if her ass was holding up the jeans or the jeans were holding up her ass.
When we got to the room, I found out. She had a ugly roll of flab around her stomach and droopy boobs. As for her ass, well, it was half in half. It was large, but not shapely and firm, so I asked her to get on all fours and come to the end of the bed, that way her butt cheeks would look nicer than they are.
I must say, she is a nice SW, and pleasant to talk to, even if her face does look like a Halloween mask. The only bad part of our session was some SW opening the door while I was slamming her rump from behind.
I am done with the rent a room house from now on! I am going to start getting #, picking them up off the strip, and go to Tim's or the Tip Top.
[QUOTE=Dontaye1;2243956]LOL. Hey bro, I'm trying to get down to where you are at. After watching ghetto / crack working girl confessions and Theatre sluts it seems like Tampa is the place to be.[/QUOTE]Tampa doesn't compare to the talents in BMore, a few decent ones here and there but BMore has Tampa beat for sure.
Thought I would pop my cherry and contribute instead of lurking.
Saw a chunky blonde close to the bridge near Carey, she gave me the look, but two guys sitting there chatting it up in the street with their hazards on as well. Spidey didn't them like so we dipped. Next time I peeled through she was gone.
Scooped Summer on the Wilkins. We shagged in Shrangi-la after a cop check or three. Guess I look like the man. She's a sweet gal.
I'll be back.
Just finished up a date with Nikki and boy was it good. The Nikki I am talking about is 27 and has a tattoo on her left lower leg. Did Everything Covered And Boy Was It good. She started out with a nice CBJ and that alone was making me want to bust the nut and then I hit her from the back pussy was tight and fresh. We had convo and she was telling me that wilkens is super hot also she said she was double jointed and is suppose to be flexible but when I was punishing her, she looked in pain. She gave me a number but said her phone was stolen but will have the same number when she gets another one. PSA to the monger in the sliver pickup truck, please slow the fuck down, I saw how after dropping your date off with the red hoodie, you were driving like an animal, please we all value our lives too and I don't want to die anytime soon.
Found Tiffany yesterday in CB. Very eager to please. Everything but back door. No digits. Will find again.
Enjoy. Be safe.
BP yesterday at 7 PM was full of flashing LE cars. Too many to count. Got out of there in a hurry.
So I get a call from Amber a. K. a Sexi Lexi last night asking if I wanted to hook up with her or her friend? I told her hell no since the last times that I hooked up with.
Her. She had a crack attack and started acting crazy. A few weeks ago she even stopped sucking my dick after she got me hard and tried renegotiating our agreed upon price to fuck. When I told her no she started complaining about how she has to suck strange cock for a living and blah blah blah. I lied and told her I don't get paid until later in the week so I don't have anything extra to give her. Once we finished and I was about to drop her back off she tried calling her medicine. When she couldn't get ahold of him, she threw her cell phone and hit my front window in the car. It took everything in me not to choke that chick out. I told her that I wouldn't be fucking with her anymore and she must have thought I was joking. Yeah Amber is fine but so are a lot of these other hookers out here. When I Amber I wouldn't come see her she said that she had a friend that she could hook me up with for a fee and text me her photo. Do any of you guys recognize her? Not sure if I will take Amber up on her offer or not.
After I rejected Amber, I decided to see if I could find some fresh street meat around my stomping grounds. Found Italy near 10th street. Scooped her up and ended.
Up going to a trusted location to do the deed. She has a lot of marks on her face and red splotches on her skin. Wasn't sure if this was a sign of a disease or she just had a bad outbreak of some kind of rash. Opted for BBBJ and CFS. She rode me cowgirl to start off and then we switched to so many different positions I can't even.
Remember them all. This working girl CAN FUCK! I didn't ask for any pics because I had left my phone in the car. Got the number for the place that she was staying so.
Hopefully Ill be able to hook up with her at least one more time.
LE was out in full force around 11:30 last night.
Be safe and happy hunting fellas.
[QUOTE=Cls9637;2243502]Yeah neither is her real name, but if anyone has her real number I would love to get it. She has a super cute little body to go along with her face. And her little boobs with puffy nipples are awesome. She's only twenty but is very good at her job. She had a number when I met her right after she got out of jail, but it only lasted a couple of days.[/QUOTE]Beautiful feet and legs, besides a nice, nice looking bootay. Nice catch.
Just spoke with Shannon located in Pasadena. She wanted to apologize to whoever called her last night and couldn't get a hold of her. She took some type of meds that made her sleepy and she saw the missed calls this morning when she awoke. I told her that I gave a lot of people her digits and they should be calling her soon. She toldme thanks because she DOES NOT want to have to go out to Brooklyn. Even her mom thanked me. LOL. I guess because she will have to be the one who drives her out.
There. Use those digits fellas. I mean this is good pussy here without the fear of having to look out for LE driving down Pontiac. She is well worth it.
Be Safe fellow mongers and as always Happy Hunting.
[QUOTE=Dontaye1;2244663]Just spoke with Shannon located in Pasadena. She wanted to apologize to whoever called her last night and couldn't get a hold of her. She took some type of meds that made her sleepy and she saw the missed calls this morning when she awoke. I told her that I gave a lot of people her digits and they should be calling her soon. She toldme thanks because she DOES NOT want to have to go out to Brooklyn. Even her mom thanked me. LOL. I guess because she will have to be the one who drives her out.
There. Use those digits fellas. I mean this is good pussy here without the fear of having to look out for LE driving down Pontiac. She is well worth it.
Be Safe fellow mongers and as always Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]Hey could you pm me those digits.
One last observation from yesterday. Just outside the circle on Ramsey, before you get to S Bruce st alley, there is heavey set white girl that's gives me the head bob, yes I am dating. I have never seen her get up and walk the circle, only sit on the porch.
I am not sure if she's just fucking with me or looking to date. Anybody else notice this girl, anybody date her? Big boned white girl, chunky brunette.
I'm pretty sure she's lives at that house too .
[QUOTE=Dontaye1;2244663]Just spoke with Shannon located in Pasadena. She wanted to apologize to whoever called her last night and couldn't get a hold of her. She took some type of meds that made her sleepy and she saw the missed calls this morning when she awoke. I told her that I gave a lot of people her digits and they should be calling her soon. She toldme thanks because she DOES NOT want to have to go out to Brooklyn. Even her mom thanked me. LOL. I guess because she will have to be the one who drives her out.
There. Use those digits fellas. I mean this is good pussy here without the fear of having to look out for LE driving down Pontiac. She is well worth it.
Be Safe fellow mongers and as always Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]Hey could you pm me those digits.
[QUOTE=Cebud1;2244570]Found Tiffany yesterday in CB. Very eager to please. Everything but back door. No digits. Will find again.
Enjoy. Be safe.
BP yesterday at 7 PM was full of flashing LE cars. Too many to count. Got out of there in a hurry.[/QUOTE]Yup Tiffany cute clean girl. Love that round ass nice and soft. If you see her treat her well.
[QUOTE=Dontaye1;2244645]So I get a call from Amber a. K. a Sexi Lexi last night asking if I wanted to hook up with her or her friend? I told her hell no since the last times that I hooked up with.
Her. She had a crack attack and started acting crazy. A few weeks ago she even stopped sucking my dick after she got me hard and tried renegotiating our agreed upon price to fuck. When I told her no she started complaining about how she has to suck strange cock for a living and blah blah blah. I lied and told her I don't get paid until later in the week so I don't have anything extra to give her. Once we finished and I was about to drop her back off she tried calling her medicine. When she couldn't get ahold of him, she threw her cell phone and hit my front window in the car. It took everything in me not to choke that chick out. I told her that I wouldn't be fucking with her anymore and she must have thought I was joking. Yeah Amber is fine but so are a lot of these other hookers out here. When I Amber I wouldn't come see her she said that she had a friend that she could hook me up with for a fee and text me her photo. Do any of you guys recognize her? Not sure if I will take Amber up on her offer or not.
After I rejected Amber, I decided to see if I could find some fresh street meat around my stomping grounds. Found Italy near 10th street. Scooped her up and ended.
Up going to a trusted location to do the deed. She has a lot of marks on her face and red splotches on her skin. Wasn't sure if this was a sign of a disease or she just had a bad outbreak of some kind of rash. Opted for BBBJ and CFS. She rode me cowgirl to start off and then we switched to so many different positions I can't even.
Remember them all. This working girl CAN FUCK! I didn't ask for any pics because I had left my phone in the car. Got the number for the place that she was staying so.
Hopefully Ill be able to hook up with her at least one more time.
LE was out in full force around 11:30 last night.
Be safe and happy hunting fellas.[/QUOTE]Saw her strolling Pontiac. Bit long in the tooth for me. Pussy is good tho, eh?
Not seeing anything on Harford Rd. It was around noon. I decided to take a ride down to 25th St. I usually don't see anything decent there. As I turned into 25th, I see a cute one standing at the passenger side of a SUV. As I was about to lament the fact that I was a minute too late, ule pulls up behind him. I went from monger mode to recon mode. I circled the area and watched from a safe distance. 2 more ule arrived. The whole thing didn't take more than 6 or 7 minutes. It ended with the suv making a you-turn back towards Greenmount and the SW headed the same way in the back of white ford focus. I cruised around for a while looking to see where they would set up next, but didn't see a trace of anything. My senses told me that she was LE as well.
[QUOTE=JackKnauf;2244968]Not seeing anything on Harford Rd. It was around noon. I decided to take a ride down to 25th St. I usually don't see anything decent there. As I turned into 25th, I see a cute one standing at the passenger side of a SUV. As I was about to lament the fact that I was a minute too late, ule pulls up behind him. I went from monger mode to recon mode. I circled the area and watched from a safe distance. 2 more ule arrived. The whole thing didn't take more than 6 or 7 minutes. It ended with the suv making a you-turn back towards Greenmount and the SW headed the same way in the back of white ford focus. I cruised around for a while looking to see where they would set up next, but didn't see a trace of anything. My senses told me that she was LE as well.[/QUOTE]Did she have a pocketbook with her and a phat ass that's funny my homeboy told me about it.
Just wanted to verify recent reports of LE presence all around Bmore.
Saw a pair of markeds making the Bee and Sea Bee loops the other day, some unmarkeds busting some folks up north of there. A few WSWs and a BSW have been out, but I didn't recognize them.
[QUOTE=JackKnauf;2244968]Not seeing anything on Harford Rd. It was around noon. I decided to take a ride down to 25th St. I usually don't see anything decent there. As I turned into 25th, I see a cute one standing at the passenger side of a SUV. As I was about to lament the fact that I was a minute too late, ule pulls up behind him. I went from monger mode to recon mode. I circled the area and watched from a safe distance. 2 more ule arrived. The whole thing didn't take more than 6 or 7 minutes. It ended with the suv making a you-turn back towards Greenmount and the SW headed the same way in the back of white ford focus. I cruised around for a while looking to see where they would set up next, but didn't see a trace of anything. My senses told me that she was LE as well.[/QUOTE]Did she have a nice body and a pocketbook that's unusual for SW.
[QUOTE=FlauntinMyMemb;2244496]Thought I would pop my cherry and contribute instead of lurking.
Scooped Summer on the Wilkins. We shagged in Shrangi-la after a cop check or three. Guess I look like the man. She's a sweet gal.
I'll be back.[/QUOTE]If that was popping your SW cherry, you made a great first selection. Summer is one of the best available on the W / W loop (looks, attitude, performance, personality, hygiene, needle tracks). Only negative is a lot of acne on her face. Don't expect them all to be that good.
I would recommend Summer to any monger who likes tall, thin, dirty blonde white girls.
[QUOTE=AnalLove81;2245031]Did she have a nice body and a pocketbook that's unusual for SW.[/QUOTE]All I could see was her face. As soon as saw LEO pulling up, I dipped.
But that describes the girl I saw late one night on Garrison. TGTBT. A car pulled up to her, but she didn't get in. I pulled up and asked her if she needed a ride. She said "maybe later". I circled around to see what her deal was. By the time I got back, LE had a truck pulled over about a block away.
[QUOTE=Dontaye1;2243252]Decided that I would play today once I got off of work. Didn't really feel like pounding Kiara again since I been banging her out a lot lately. I also didn't want to go around the usual stomping grounds. Since I had to drop a friend off in Pasadena I decided to hit up Shannon to see if she was available to play. Yes she was. Went over and got down to business.
Started off with CBJ and then went to missionary and then pounded doggy. Took off the cover and exploded on her delicious looking ass. Got a few pics. I'm not a nitetimer or Cls with the great photography but I think these turned out okay.
Be safe out there fellas.[/QUOTE]Great work bro.
I went back on the hunt for Crystal only to not see anyone but a WSW with long dark brown hair dressed in all black. I asked if she needed a ride but I was denied because my face was not familiar to the neighborhood. After a big 20 minute circle back around the area I finally seen about 5-6 WSW all makes and models and all shapes and sizes. I convinced a upper 20's blonde (slim, nice face, great personality) who introduce herself as brandy to take a ride and show me the neighborhood. After the standard checks she finally got a little comfy and negotiated the tuition. Since she don't give change the standard was settled for. No instructions had to be given because the BJ was absolutely amazing and perfect. I have had a lot of BJ's in my time and this one ranked high on the scale. I wanted to take her with me to make sure it was not a fluke. Since I didn't have any extra on me I told her I would give her a tip when I drive through after work. I kept my end of the bargain but could not find her to deliver. No digits but can't wait to repeat.
I couldn't help but notice the resemblance. I don't know if it's too late for Kandi to ever look like this, but it sure would be nice if she could.
[URL]http://baltimore.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/3y-m-tm-by-pm-klld-lp-and-tght-grp-22/9763194[/URL]
[QUOTE=Horsetrader;2245061]If that was popping your SW cherry, you made a great first selection. Summer is one of the best available on the W / W loop (looks, attitude, performance, personality, hygiene, needle tracks). Only negative is a lot of acne on her face. Don't expect them all to be that good.
I would recommend Summer to any monger who likes tall, thin, dirty blonde white girls.[/QUOTE]She has that awesome light colored dirty blonde girl patch. Not everything always needs to be shaved.
Oh what a feeling when you and BP le stop at the same 4 way with a SW in the middle of the intersection. If it had might have been in trouble if he had been 1 minute later.
My night started by runnin into uncle LEO lurkin' on the be / CB loop as confirmed by many of the board members. I circled a few times to do some recon before picking up an older WSW on Pontiac. But, as soon as I pulled off I was followed by Uncle LEO. Good thing I was extra careful and was certain he didn't see me make the scoop. I pulled into a gas station with LEO on my tail and got out to fill up the tank. I never looked in his direction so he continued on his way. In hind sight, I should've made the SW get out at the station, but we continued on our way. I look in my rear-view and what do I see? My uncle LEO tryin' to follow me. Feelin confident after RTFF, I kept my cool figuring that he would've stopped me if he had anything on me. I told the SW let's go for a little ride and I'll bring you back after. So I leave the be / CB loop and drive towards the county. He gave chase for a minute or two and then backed off. Persistent S. O. be! With LEO out of the picture, we continued into the county and found a nice spot for standard tuition BBBJCIM. Close call. Took the back roads for the drop off.
On my way back down Patapsco, I got the nod from a young BSW. Early 20's, tall (perfect spinner type). Stopped to ask if she needed a ride. Said her name was Tasha and she was headin' downtown to "work". Ended up findin' a spot off the beaten path and settled for CBJ followed by K9 to completion. No digits but gave her my burner # instead. Dropped her off at a bus stop on Light St. Area was jumpin' if I must say so myself! Lot of eye candy, but my monger funds were runnin' low. Until next time.
Be safe and stay cool.
Loweyes.
Was around the ww Loop today and spotted a new face, I asked her name, she said Montana. I remember SrDrDunks post about her, so I knew how bad her body would look naked from the scaring.
I passed on her, but decided to ask about SW IDOL Crystal. She said she was staying at her house, and was out yesterday, but doesn't think she will be out today.
Just to make sure we were talking about the same person, I said, red haired Crystal? She said, this Crystal is big, and has blonde hair. Now I don't know if it's the same Montana SrDrDunk mentioned or if Crystal dyed her hair blond.
[QUOTE=BoloBellgrande;2245440]I couldn't help but notice the resemblance. I don't know if it's too late for Kandi to ever look like this, but it sure would be nice if she could.
[URL]http://baltimore.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/3y-m-tm-by-pm-klld-lp-and-tght-grp-22/9763194[/URL][/QUOTE]Look like a west coast visitor - 714 area code is orange county CA. Maybe visiting from the Anaheim SW area. Who knows.
I just saw Jodi on Washington Blvd, she is fucked up out of her mind! I walked up to her, so we could talk, and work out a price. She walked over to me, bare feet, turned her back to me and leaned into me like she was going to faint. She caught herself, then mumbled something while pointing her finger.
I stepped off, and walked back to my car. It's a shame, she is hagged out for sure, but her body still looks good. I may try and make another attempt. In her condition, I know a Jackson will get me FS.
[QUOTE=Cebud1;2245866]Look like a west coast visitor - 714 area code is orange county CA. Maybe visiting from the Anaheim SW area. Who knows.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, but ....
The post was a inside joke, the BP girl in the add is a near dead ringer for a WSW named Kandi, who hangs around Wilkins ave.
I doubled back and saw Jodie again. This time she was standing in the doorway of the laundromat. She was hiding from somebody, real or imagined, I don't know. She kept poking her head out, and peeking down the street toward w ostend.
I parked on Ramsey, and walked over to the laundromat, but she was gone when I got there. I hope she is okay. In the state she was in, somebody could really take advantage of her. What's odd about all this is, the first time I met her, she was hiding out from some guy who was trying to pimp her out. She was scared to death of they guy pulling her into his car and taking her to DC to walk to streets. Real or imagined, she was scared to death.
I hope she's not being taken advantage of, I'd hate to think of her in some basement being butt raped by a group of guys. I know SW that have been through that.
The Beast.
Drove back up to Wilkins, LE was making their presence known. I spotted Jewelz walking fast with her nose in the air. I pulled back around through the circle, looked to my right and saw a figure in the darkness sitting on the bench. I'v seen Neicey sitting there so many times, I thought it might be her. I parked on Ramsey and walked up to the bench, it was her!
I was about to ask for her # , she looked up at me and pointed her head towards LE parked directly across the street from us. I turned and walked away quickley towards S Gilmoure. I ran into Bridget, and we talked for a minute or two. I walked back towards Fulton and could see LE was gone and Neicey was still there. LE was still making there presence known, Neicey and I agreed it was to hot, so she made sure I put her # in my phone so we could get together another time
In my travels I saw a girl walking over Pulaski toward Wilkens who looked like she might be nice. I circled the block and found her walking on Payson near Eagle. She had on very tight jeans which made her ass look pretty good, and seemed cute. She seemed to be headed somewhere so I wasn't sure she was a SW, but then she waved at a car going by, and then at me. So I stopped. We agreed on everything, and I told her a tip would be coming if I was happy. She said I would be. That's where it started to come apart.
She seemed to have pretty much no personality at all, so there was almost no conversation. She gave me the "I don't do this for drugs, I do it to pay bills" line, but I dropped her off on Catherine near Frederick, a major drug area. She also told me that everything, including anal, is available and that she gives a very good BJ. When we got to the location, she didn't want to get entirely undressed, and didn't want any posing pictures, just action. Her BJ technique was fair, but she kept going to fast and I would have to tell her to slow down. Then she told me she won't lick the boys. Because of all the rules and the fair at best BJ I lost interest and wound up cutting our visit short and just taking her back. Then she still expected a tip!
Obviously I'll never pick this girl up again. She is a cute girl with nice twenty two year old boobs but the whole experience was pretty bad. YMMV.
[QUOTE=BoloBellgrande;2245440]I couldn't help but notice the resemblance. I don't know if it's too late for Kandi to ever look like this, but it sure would be nice if she could.
[URL]http://baltimore.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/3y-m-tm-by-pm-klld-lp-and-tght-grp-22/9763194[/URL][/QUOTE]I asked the LA board about her when she came through Nova a few weeks ago. Heard back from a senior that she's legit; used to walk the street, then upped her status (and price) on BP.
I ended up not seeing her, but I'm told she looks as good in person as the pix. No GFE or alphabet soup, though, which makes her safe, but less interesting I suppose.
Well finally got to play with her and WOW!
Such a nice girl with skillz and her head game is one of the best I've ever had.
Just had to tell her how I liked it and she knew exactly what to do.
Then some doggie and I'm not hung but this girl was tight and apparently enjoys it cause I've never seen so much white so fast.
Made me feel like I'm THE MAN! LOL.
Now how do I post these pics?
[QUOTE=GuyLooking;2246262]Well finally got to play with her and WOW!
Such a nice girl with skillz and her head game is one of the best I've ever had.
Just had to tell her how I liked it and she knew exactly what to do.
Then some doggie and I'm not hung but this girl was tight and apparently enjoys it cause I've never seen so much white so fast.
Made me feel like I'm THE MAN! LOL.
Now how do I post these pics?[/QUOTE]First pictures I'v seen of her with lifeless eyes.
I was in need of some fuel. So I stopped by the citgo on Dundalk ave. To my surprise there was a variety of gals to had. I pulled up to the pumps and I spotted 3 pieces of real estate and was trying decide on which one was going to be a receiving a load of my baby batter. A cute brunette was sitting on curb dangling her flip flop from her toes. So as I finished filling up I motioned her over to me with a nod of my head. And off we go to my place but on the way I noticed that she could not sit still she took her flip flops off and was putting her feet everywhere. Back at my place she got undressed and proceeded to give me a BBBJCIM. With special attention to the boys. But before that I had her stroke my manhood with her toes which were some of the most sexy feet I have seen in a while. Soft & very well taken care of. No digits this time but if I see her again I would repeat.