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Hey Pappa, I just wanted to add on that "Amazing Amanda" is not so Amazing. She did something somewhat similar to me and offered to make it up to me so I would stay silent. I never chose to say anything publicly about this, because everyone else seemed to love her and have good experiences with her. However, I did not take her up on her offer to remedy the situation because, well frankly, she was a ***** to me from before, during, and after my session.

Before my session started, we set up a specific time. I arrived and informed her I was there. She told me she would be ready in 5 minutes. 45 minutes later (still chilling in my car) she finally decided to let me come in (that amount of time is not dramatic, as I have time stamps from our messages showing how long I waited for). Given all of the positive reviews, I figured I was in for a treat and I should just wait rather than risk being blocked. When I arrived, she apologized for the wait, saying her dad had been there and that was the reason for delay. I immediately noticed a mark on her leg that she attributed to being a result from passing out drunk, having an exposed wire fall on her leg, and burning her leg. Personally, that mark didn't look like an electric burn but rather as a result of some needle-work.

At the beginning the session, which nothing even happened during, she kept talking about these boards and asking if I would write her a nice review. Amanda also whined about how "mean" we all were on this board when discussing her appearances and saying how I needed to write a nice review of her. When I decided to leave because no fun was going to occur, she offered to give half off the session so I would not write something rude. I said that was fine and I went to go grab that portion. However, she started to freak on me, yelling at me, and I figured it was just time to get my ass out of there. Later, I received a message regarding this sob story about her family (including her dad was currently a "vegetable" on why she needed the money at the end of the session to pay bills due at the end of the day, and how she apologized for her behavior but would pay me back. I said it was fine, we all have bad days. Fast forward to later that day and she had misplaced the money. She started cursing me out, threatening me, and a whole lot of other bullshit. I later received another message apologizing again for her behavior, as she had found the money. Once again she offered to make it up for me, but at this point I was done and just said I wouldn't be coming back because we were not a match.

I should have posted this before, but did not want to ruin the fun for all of you and a preferred provider. However, now that this news is out, I can now tell you about this instance.

Papa, I would strongly urge you to decline her offer to settle. Her demeanor reminds me of a 6 year old girl who stomps her feet, whines about how it is everyone else's fault, and how she is doing everything right. I know accountability is not a trait of many providers, but she really brought it to a new low. So this mistake is not her first. She will pull the same shit, try to pretend how sorry she is and is taking the high road, then pull the same shit again.

She is on my Avoid Avoid Avoid list.

I know I am one the less senior members of this forum, and you can trust me or think I am lying, all I know is I will never see her again. And there is nothing she could say to make me change my mind.

[QUOTE=Pappa54;3410395]It shows:

1) She is serious about her reputation.

2) She does read the boards (and has contacted me for reparation).

3) Board posts are somewhat powerful.

We will see what she offers in recompense.

Peace.

Pappa54.[/QUOTE]

You get what you pay for! Stopped in Pure earlier this week and rang the bell. Amber opened the door. If you've never seen her, think best body you can imagine with a face and personality to match. Great skills, too! A little pricy, but you get what you pay for!

I guess this is one of those YMMV situations because I saw Amanda for the first time on Saturday, and had a nice time. I had none of the issues you had, but received a very nice GFE session. We agreed on a multi-pop, GFE session that was supposed to last an hour. We talked and got to know each other the first 15 minutes or so and then had a nice 20 minute session where she got me a little to excited during 69 and I told her we should switch as I wasn't going to last much longer. She suggested we cum together 69 so it ended with a CIM / DATY mutual O. We cuddled a few minutes waiting for me to recover and when I had she said she didn't feel good and could we wait to see if she felt better. We cuddled naked another 45 minutes and she never felt better and asked if we could finish another time, but she never acted like she was in a hurry for me to leave. I finally left figuring from experience that the "other time" probably wouldn't happen and since even though I had only cum once, I had been there almost 2 hours and had some nice cuddle time, so I figured I got my money's worth. She texted Sunday and asked when we could finish and I said today, so I went back and we had another HH session that was really nice. She didn't ask for more money since this was supposed to be a conclusion to Saturday, but I did give her a little tip when as I was leaving because I enjoyed the time together. As far as demons, I didn't really see any. Her place was clean and she was freshly showered and in nice lingerie. She admitted she did take some prescriptions meds (as many do). I'll continue to see her until she gives me a reason not too.

[QUOTE=OneMoreTime639;3410759]Hey Pappa, I just wanted to add on that "Amazing Amanda" is not so Amazing. She did something somewhat similar to me and offered to make it up to me so I would stay silent. I never chose to say anything publicly about this, because everyone else seemed to love her and have good experiences with her. However, I did not take her up on her offer to remedy the situation because, well frankly, she was a ***** to me from before, during, and after my session.

Before my session started, we set up a specific time. I arrived and informed her I was there. She told me she would be ready in 5 minutes. 45 minutes later (still chilling in my car) she finally decided to let me come in (that amount of time is not dramatic, as I have time stamps from our messages showing how long I waited for). Given all of the positive reviews, I figured I was in for a treat and I should just wait rather than risk being blocked. When I arrived, she apologized for the wait, saying her dad had been there and that was the reason for delay. I immediately noticed a mark on her leg that she attributed to being a result from passing out drunk, having an exposed wire fall on her leg, and burning her leg. Personally, that mark didn't look like an electric burn but rather as a result of some needle-work.

At the beginning the session, which nothing even happened during, she kept talking about these boards and asking if I would write her a nice review. Amanda also whined about how "mean" we all were on this board when discussing her appearances and saying how I needed to write a nice review of her. When I decided to leave because no fun was going to occur, she offered to give half off the session so I would not write something rude. I said that was fine and I went to go grab that portion. However, she started to freak on me, yelling at me, and I figured it was just time to get my ass out of there. Later, I received a message regarding this sob story about her family (including her dad was currently a "vegetable" on why she needed the money at the end of the session to pay bills due at the end of the day, and how she apologized for her behavior but would pay me back. I said it was fine, we all have bad days. Fast forward to later that day and she had misplaced the money. She started cursing me out, threatening me, and a whole lot of other bullshit. I later received another message apologizing again for her behavior, as she had found the money. Once again she offered to make it up for me, but at this point I was done and just said I wouldn't be coming back because we were not a match.

I should have posted this before, but did not want to ruin the fun for all of you and a preferred provider. However, now that this news is out, I can now tell you about this instance.

Papa, I would strongly urge you to decline her offer to settle. Her demeanor reminds me of a 6 year old girl who stomps her feet, whines about how it is everyone else's fault, and how she is doing everything right. I know accountability is not a trait of many providers, but she really brought it to a new low. So this mistake is not her first. She will pull the same shit, try to pretend how sorry she is and is taking the high road, then pull the same shit again.

She is on my Avoid Avoid Avoid list.

I know I am one the less senior members of this forum, and you can trust me or think I am lying, all I know is I will never see her again. And there is nothing she could say to make me change my mind.[/QUOTE]

Gentleman,

The posts here has an effect. I only post great and bad reviews. I do however have community comments. In this instance, the one in question, "a wrong doing", is short of out right robbery and suspect in mental stability. Yes, YMMV. But it is unproductive to defend such an action with a glowing encounter. Great encounters should live on their own, rather than in a defensive support position. Bad encounters should be openly discussed, it is in itself a warning to those that are unaware. Coach, this isn't a slam to you, as I am sure you are correct. This is an attempt to benchmark useful information to the benefit of the forum members so services are better. Not to just "slam" in public. It would be good for us all to get providers to view the forum as serious. Using posts like this as an example. If more did, our general influence over expected performances would be enhanced. And we all will be happier.

All comments are welcome.

Peace brothers.

Pappa54.

[QUOTE=ScCoach;3411011]I guess this is one of those YMMV situations because I saw Amanda for the first time on Saturday, and had a nice time. I had none of the issues you had, but received a very nice GFE session. We agreed on a multi-pop, GFE session that was supposed to last an hour. We talked and got to know each other the first 15 minutes or so and then had a nice 20 minute session where she got me a little to excited during 69 and I told her we should switch as I wasn't going to last much longer. She suggested we cum together 69 so it ended with a CIM / DATY mutual O. We cuddled a few minutes waiting for me to recover and when I had she said she didn't feel good and could we wait to see if she felt better. We cuddled naked another 45 minutes and she never felt better and asked if we could finish another time, but she never acted like she was in a hurry for me to leave. I finally left figuring from experience that the "other time" probably wouldn't happen and since even though I had only cum once, I had been there almost 2 hours and had some nice cuddle time, so I figured I got my money's worth. She texted Sunday and asked when we could finish and I said today, so I went back and we had another HH session that was really nice. She didn't ask for more money since this was supposed to be a conclusion to Saturday, but I did give her a little tip when as I was leaving because I enjoyed the time together. As far as demons, I didn't really see any. Her place was clean and she was freshly showered and in nice lingerie. She admitted she did take some prescriptions meds (as many do). I'll continue to see her until she gives me a reason not too.[/QUOTE]

The issue at hand is what you did and you knew it was wrong to start with. We can PM back and forth about this, but Sugar, it was wrong and you should never, ever do that. Basically, it should not have happened in the first place. The statement about staying an hour is not good either. Most of the time we talked and talking for most of us is simply gentlemanly and being polite, but not actually what the encounter is about.

Your offer to "make things right" has a cost. Like any wrongdoing there should be a penalty. It is not unusual to to see a 2 X, 3 X or 4 X value on reparations. PM me with an offer.

Pappa54.

[QUOTE=AmandaXXX;3410130]I can't help that at the moment I had pressing personal problems. Every time we have met I ensure your satisfaction. It hurts my feelings that you wouldn't work things out with me as, IF there is something I did wrong I can fix it. After staying an hour there my ride was back and I didn't have another way home. I offered to make it up to you and I do not have a problem doing that. Thanks Amanda.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pappa54;3411111]The issue at hand is what you did and you knew it was wrong to start with. We can PM back and forth about this, but Sugar, it was wrong and you should never, ever do that. Basically, it should not have happened in the first place. The statement about staying an hour is not good either. Most of the time we talked and talking for most of us is simply gentlemanly and being polite, but not actually what the encounter is about.

Your offer to "make things right" has a cost. Like any wrongdoing there should be a penalty. It is not unusual to to see a 2 X, 3 X or 4 X value on reparations. PM me with an offer.

Pappa54.[/QUOTE]From looking at your post history in just the past six months or so you've had a girl cash and dash and another steal from you. That's bad luck, sir! I'm vaguely confused about this, though. This Amanda girl agreed to an hour appointment and left in the middle of it? If she was there for an hour I'm not sure why the deed wouldn't have been done. I don't know many providers who think it's "gentlemanly" to sit and talk for most of the time when the appointment was for an hour and expect her not to leave when that hour is up. Did she have no other way home? Was this a handler picking her up? I agree that no one should be left hanging, but I'm not sure I understand the scenario correctly. If she agreed to an hour and an hour was had, I'm not sure it's completely her fault that she needed to leave. Sounds like others have had bad experiences as well. I'd chalk it up to a loss.

[QUOTE=AmandaXXX;3410130]I can't help that at the moment I had pressing personal problems. Every time we have met I ensure your satisfaction. It hurts my feelings that you wouldn't work things out with me as, IF there is something I did wrong I can fix it. After staying an hour there my ride was back and I didn't have another way home. I offered to make it up to you and I do not have a problem doing that. Thanks Amanda.[/QUOTE]I wonder if you would be so amenable yourself if a new client or a regular set an appointment and showed up with less donation than agreed upon or suddenly demanded things beyond the scope of your comfort level. I'm pretty sure you would be less than understanding even they tried to justify it with a sob story about personal problems.

Personal issues​ or not, the gentleman donated and you failed to deliver. Females who do that bullshit get put on blast.

If your business suffers, use it as learning experience. If you've got issues you can't put aside when spending time with a gentleman, particularly your regulars, then you should go deal with them first.

[QUOTE=Joboy;3411254]I wonder if you would be so amenable yourself if a new client or a regular set an appointment and showed up with less donation than agreed upon or suddenly demanded things beyond the scope of your comfort level. I'm pretty sure you would be less than understanding even they tried to justify it with a sob story about personal problems.

Personal issues​ or not, the gentleman donated and you failed to deliver. Females who do that bullshit get put on blast.

If your business suffers, use it as learning experience. If you've got issues you can't put aside when spending time with a gentleman, particularly your regulars, then you should go deal with them first.[/QUOTE]I completely agree, that's why I stick with Chanelle and only Chanelle for now, not one bad review about her, she ALWAYS aims to please, and has done nothing shady, and to top it off, she's a beautiful woman.

Amanda on the other hand, whines like a child when she doesn't get her way or when she gets a bad review.

Bottom line is, you shouldn't do that PERIOD, regardless of what issues you're having outside of providing. If you're having issues that will hinder you from giving your 100%, then don't provide that day, and deal with your shit first.

Simple as that.

[QUOTE=LiquidStep;3411442]I completely agree, that's why I stick with Chanelle and only Chanelle for now, not one bad review about her, she ALWAYS aims to please, and has done nothing shady, and to top it off, she's a beautiful woman.

Amanda on the other hand, whines like a child when she doesn't get her way or when she gets a bad review.

Bottom line is, you shouldn't do that PERIOD, regardless of what issues you're having outside of providing. If you're having issues that will hinder you from giving your 100%, then don't provide that day, and deal with your shit first.

Simple as that.[/QUOTE]I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion because he did an out call. Which I never do because of shit like that. I only do incalls because that is how I make sure I get the best service. She can't leave me in her house, apartment, or hotel. But she can if I let her do an outcall. This is how I ensure the best service. If I don't get the best service I will then tell people do not visit someone. But with Amanda she has always been accomdating to me and others on this board. So of course we label her "YMMV" because everyone s most recent expirences are very polarizing.

Hey brother Chuck, Let's recap.

First, you have 7 posts in 15 months that I have read. So basically, you are an occasional participant at best and that's ok.

Yes, I have had some less than desirable experiences, that is expected. And as I always say, "I post results from great experiences, and bad experiences". The ones in between need to work on their game to get a "Pappa approval". When a member of the forum gives an "approval" it should mean something. The opposite should also mean something. That's the way a good forum opperates. A good review is a bonus. A bad review is a penalty. By just "chalking it up" it doesn't do anyone any good in this hobby.

Regarding your bad luck comment; it is a percentage game. Some times you get on a good streak, some times a bad. It is a matter of how many times you are at "bat" my friend.

The recap. She initiated the call. I said ok. No time was specified, but the outcome of service expected is obvious. I will make it clear in example for you. "A guy calls you and gives you a great price on a new roof. The guy has a decent reputation and you have used him in the past with no problems. You give him the amount and he starts work. Half way through he says, "Well, I got to go, I have spent enough time here, sorry can't finish the job. Call me again. SEE YA! Ok, so it should be chalked up to a loss? Or should I do something about it?

Regarding the time comment. Your style may be get in quick and get out. No fraternization. That's ok.

My style is to make it as pleasant an experience as possible because it's my money. If the provider wants to talk a bit and have a pleasant conversation first, rather that just a "hop on hop off session", that's ok with me, as long as the job gets done to my satisfaction. There are some very pleasant providers out there, and they are all not simply meat for the roasting, they actually are interesting people. My style is to be as polite, kind, pleasant and gentlemanly as possible, as I find it gets very good results for future potential encounters and that has served me well for many years. If you don't know many providers that like a gentleman, you are not interacting beyond the physical experience. That is just my initial observation and if the case, that's ok, because it works for you. You are paying your tab and that's your business.

The basic point is we all contract a job for a result. Time in this hobby is a "price marker" more than a "game clock". If you contract for a job for an hour and it gets done in 45 minutes or an hour and 15 minutes who is cares. Providers point out that they have stayed longer. Some look for a tip, some use it as a point that they have given good service in hopes that you become a regular. I have never encountered a provider who gives a rebate because the session finished early, nor do I expect it. We should all expect though, the job gets done to completion.

And no, I don't have a lot of issues with this partner. It would appear that I just hobby more than you.

Comments are welcome.

Peace.

Pappa54.

[QUOTE=ChuckLikesIt;3411156]From looking at your post history in just the past six months or so you've had a girl cash and dash and another steal from you. That's bad luck, sir! I'm vaguely confused about this, though. This Amanda girl agreed to an hour appointment and left in the middle of it? If she was there for an hour I'm not sure why the deed wouldn't have been done. I don't know many providers who think it's "gentlemanly" to sit and talk for most of the time when the appointment was for an hour and expect her not to leave when that hour is up. Did she have no other way home? Was this a handler picking her up? I agree that no one should be left hanging, but I'm not sure I understand the scenario correctly. If she agreed to an hour and an hour was had, I'm not sure it's completely her fault that she needed to leave. Sounds like others have had bad experiences as well. I'd chalk it up to a loss.[/QUOTE]

For those who are interested, I got a text from her saying she will be back today for a few days. I have always had good service and a great time with her but as always YMMV. If you have been thinking about seeing her, based on my 10 plus experiences, I recommend her heartily.

She's legit. Not GFE but a gorgeous girl. Looked younger than pics. CBJ, miss, doggie. 100 for 30. Tight body, just really hot. Unfortunately she said she's leaving to go home to Atlanta today but might be back next week. [URL]http://columbia.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/petite-goddess-sweet-and-unforgettable-with-juicy-ass-lundon-da-barbie/18342078[/URL].

[QUOTE=Warhawk;3411659]For those who are interested, I got a text from her saying she will be back today for a few days. I have always had good service and a great time with her but as always YMMV. If you have been thinking about seeing her, based on my 10 plus experiences, I recommend her heartily.[/QUOTE]Where is she posting her ad? I don't see it on backpage. Can you pm me her number? I alway wanted to meet her.

[QUOTE=LumberjackMan;3411541]I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion because he did an out call. Which I never do because of shit like that. I only do incalls because that is how I make sure I get the best service. She can't leave me in her house, apartment, or hotel. But she can if I let her do an outcall. This is how I ensure the best service. If I don't get the best service I will then tell people do not visit someone. But with Amanda she has always been accomdating to me and others on this board. So of course we label her "YMMV" because everyone s most recent expirences are very polarizing.[/QUOTE]I would not say this instance is unique due to it being an outcall. The thing is her behavior drove me to leave during our visit before anything could happen. While I agree that a lady could essentially "dine and ditch" you at your place and you may be at a higher risk of this, she can also make you feel so uncomfortable and not safe to make you leave. Every provider is technically a YMMV because we all have different preferences, different strokes for different folks.

There now have been multiple individuals on this board saying her behavior is along the lines of whiny and all she cares about is review. If she stopped focusing on this board so much and just cared about the individual walking through the door, these reviews would be more glowing. Granted some would say she was not their cup of tea, but none of us would bash her as such. I think it is good that the behavior of a provider is being discussed, because I know I will not go back to a provider with bad behavior. However, I will probably go see a provider multiple times if she is sweet but not exactly ideal. I like comfortably when I search for a provider. Granted, I have been having difficulty finding such a thing recently, other than by providers who are on tour.

Feel free to PM me if you want. I am glad though you have had good experiences with a provider you like.

Well, been gone a bit but looks like the same ole Columbia drug trash drama with the "ladies" in this town. Of course if you are so inclined you can visit one of the massage parlors and perhaps meet a girl who looks better than your average backpage hotel escort in Columbia but then to even get full service be prepared to shell out about $250 for a crappy massage and one pop with virtually no GFE. No thanks for me, I will save my money and continue to travel out of town to see ladies who may charge $220-$300 per hour but the experience is so much more worth it with most of the time full GFE offerings, higher class women who actually have educations, non shady drug / crime ridden third world filth hotels and non hardcore drug addicted women who don't look like complete zombies of their old or bogus pictures on backpage. Let the arguing continue over most of these women who wouldn't even be considered a 1 (on a scale of 1-10) in other cities such as Charlotte, Raleigh, Atlanta etc. Virtually no big agencies or no quality providers who are youthful, in-shape, attractive, not pimped out or not blitzed out of their minds on drugs come here anyhow. Unless of course you would like to go visit one of those overpriced jack shacks where you can drop 250-300 for an a pathetic massage with some overpriced scented BS oils they ordered off Amazon and an girl who can't wait to pop you off for one quick round to get your old ass out in order to negotiate the next uninformed bozo who does not realize he could drive right up the interstate for that amount of money and get full GFE service with a lady who looks even better without tattoos on her face and get one thousand times more for his money. The drug addict non GFE shady hotel and over priced jack shack workers who aren't worth it value their services way more than I do in all honesty. I have some visits I'm going to schedule soon and some reviews to do but these women don't advertise on backpage to compete with the junkies or the jack shacks. I just think I have officially given up on seeing those low class women as their stupid drama, their BS, their drug sob stories, their police drama, their shit hotels and their in general "give me some money so I can kill myself with some sort of hardcore drug" has run its course with me. You are much safer to save your money up and go see a really decent lady just an hour and a half away. I guarantee you with these high class agencies and high class independents they have their stuff together and you will run no risk with LE by going to their truly upscale hotels and seeing them. When I say upscale I don't mean the finest hotel on Two Notch Road either because they are all garbage no matter how you spin it. Heck, there are a number of these girls who charge the same per hour here that one of the higher class ladies charge and all you need to do is think with your big head to pick a day to drive up and see one. 90% of this town's providers I refuse to see any longer as its a broken record with feeding these soon to be over dose cases drug habits. Open your eyes to the bigger picture and consider saving the funds you would give to 2 or 3 of these drug addicts or 1 visit to the over priced local massage parlors and go get an hour that you will remember forever in an upscale hotel with a lady who carries herself as a lady with no demons and looks damn close to a magazine model. I have learned these local girls all except for maybe one or two you won't even remember 6 months later most of the time because you drive to some dangerous dump with lowlifes hanging out all off the rails all day because they have no jobs or no futures and see a girl that never looks as good as the backpage pictures then you get marginal service from something drug addicted or pimped out by the worst piece of sub human garbage you have ever encountered in Columbia and you help to feed these girls their death habits as well as put money into the pieces of shit who own these brainwashed addicted double digit IQ's young girl idiots who have shit their lives and their futures right down the toilet for some ass wipe who does not even have the intelligence himself to pull his damn pants up from hitting his knees or even speak proper English without grunting and chewing on his own face like some mindless idiot who I wouldn't hire to cook French fries at mc donalds. The Columbia scene is a beautiful one indeed if you love this kind of filth and shit and these lifestyles. I would rather save and take a short drive to a real town with real providers but I'm probably just weird I guess. I know one thing though, I refuse to give one more damn cent and pay for anymore of these drug addicted women to slowly kill themselves and pay some worthless punks cell phone bill so he can recruit more easily persuaded dingy girls into killing themselves for his terrible agenda all so he can look cool in front of his pathetic peers and claim he is a " self employed entrepreneur" on his moronic facebook page with drug crap painted all over it and stupid looking gang signs (domestic terrorists in my opinion) thrown about. Yes moron we are all impressed because you take a picture with a wad of 20 dollar bills on a shit dump hotel bed with a gang sign thrown up and dumb ass expression on your face!

Sorry about that rant and the run on sentences but this board and this town is the same crap rehashed every year and not many ever just admit that this town and most of its providers all suck. I can think of maybe 2 or 3 I would actually pay an hourly fee to see in this town who all live here but they don't advertise on backpage hardly ever and they both are only available part time as one works a full time career and the other must save her money very wisely so she can do this part time. Forgive my rant but felt like complaining today about Columbia as I just got back from another city and got to see all the splendor other places have to offer compared to this place. You get back here and see the fabulous Broad River or Two Notch Road and you begin to wonder if other guys find this town as depressing to hobby in as I do? What a dump!