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[QUOTE=IronClad999;6410619]If we check closely on agencies posting model pics; they will occasionally attach side pics with reviews and details along with short summaries that are posted from this forum so it's no brainer that they are definitely observing behind the techno screen. Wally was very firm on 200, she did say she may retire within a few more years when she was at ddy / SL a while ago. Maybe she's trying to rack up huge sum for her personal piggy bank before keeping all fence closed. Her pussy was warm but not crazy tight to worth over a ben. She likes to play with dildos and toys too. Whenever there's a popular chick, I usually drop them off the list too cas we got no insurance if they spoil the session and sometimes if they are overwhelmed / burned they will slack off and give some of us lazy vibes.[/QUOTE]That's kind of the vibe I got about her. I'll probably scratch her off my list and stick to my usual gut of avoiding popular girls. I feel like the less popular one will work hard as they are not as lazy and complacent with all of their appointments.
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[QUOTE=RyanLar;6409078]Morning bang. She was in the nurse outfit showing mid-drift. I didn't realize that room has been upgraded to a full size bed setup now. Last time I was in it it was still a massage table looking thing and made it hard for a full spread attack. Quick kiss and left donation on the table.
Young looking girl, decent body with small Bs and a small tush. She was working in NJ as well. Flat stomach with some vertical lines. I like the body type. Basic cleaning in the shower once I was pretty cleaned up around my cock and balls she leaned in for a kiss and asked if I'm ok. I need to go back to work so I rinsed my face and head back to the room together.
Change of pace and I let her do the routine, got on top of me, kissing and licked my left tit the right tit. Left plenty of spit and my tits felt slippery. Moved down to blow me and she spent a lot of time sucking just a few inches past the head and up and down. Very meticulous about the movement. She was super focused and eyes closed as she was blowing me. She's a sensual kind of girl and not hard core **** action if you know what I mean. I got harder and harder I flipped the script and told her to lay down.
Dfk locked lips, I push her arms back and my dick touching her pussy. She wiggles her ass a bit so my dick can touch her pussy lips. I slide up and down like a stripper on her body while maintaining the dfk action. Slid down for daty to properly lube her up was met with arching back and moans like she enjoys it. She pretty much kept her eyes closed / half closed the entire time but very aware of the action. As soon as I moved back up she would lift her head to kiss me. I reposition my cock and aim for her pussy lips and test dipped it a little. Her eyes did open at this point LOL but I kept her busy with the kisses. She has the standard ask of BBFS / cip so you should work her a bit.
Anyway, soon I begin my raw dog attack. I locked her knees right to her chest. Love it when girls can take this and I mish fuck her for a while listening to her moan. I need to get to work so I flip doggy and pounded her pussy for quite a bit. Thank god AC is on today so I wasn't going to get sweat-soft-cocked today. I pounded and pounded and remember that I should slap her ass so I started slapping and squeezing her ass while boning her. She offered no resistance and moans in unison so I grabbed on to that ass and drill it until I deposited the load. Quick shower, nothing really happens in there except pleansant convo and my weekend has official started out with a bang.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure they took the massage table from the other room and slapped them together. You can see / feel the separation. I always get a little nervous about that, like what if the tables split apart and we hit the ground hard. The other room got a new bed though so that was an upgrade.
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Newsfeed
Yuii PPC [URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/yuii[/URL] - looks like nice tits to me.
Canon xoxo [URL]https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/303[/URL].
Coco NYCSE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/362 - came on yesterday
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greedy factors
[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6410562]Went to another all japanese shop after that. Girl said the same thing. 200 cip and I offered hiya ku and she said no at first then. Basically said ok but don't tell anyone or her boss will get mad.
So now we know this is going to happen to all japanese places. So its either we keep quiet and negotiate or we talk about how we negotiate and the bosses come down harder on the girls and they really don't budge.
I don't know if Boss means agent and maybe the get more girls here with the hopes of getting 200 for BBFS or if they get a cut but how would the know? Or if it is the house thinking that less people getting it is better for them.
I don't know but expect to hear it.[/QUOTE]Its already been happening cas koreans started doing same sht prior to winter 2022. They are well aware jap talents in east coast making those charges hence now they hop from west to east aiming for those premium charges. The agencies ARE actually taking a piece of the chicken legs from the popeyes menu. Lots of agencies in nova that didn't promote extra menu before are now also explicitly hanging the BB tag with "no negotiation or no more appointments". And if the girl reports, that's implying a BL. The owners are greedy; lets be real, they would WANT more people cas they are tapping into the psychological component of business thinking the demand is there for raw pussy so everyones going to pay it. Hence I've been traveling a lot and boycotting the FK out of them when they start to play this upcharge game with possible taboo.
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[QUOTE=IronClad999;6410909]Its already been happening cas koreans started doing same sht prior to winter 2022. They are well aware jap talents in east coast making those charges hence now they hop from west to east aiming for those premium charges. The agencies ARE actually taking a piece of the chicken legs from the popeyes menu. Lots of agencies in nova that didn't promote extra menu before are now also explicitly hanging the BB tag with "no negotiation or no more appointments". And if the girl reports, that's implying a BL. The owners are greedy; lets be real, they would WANT more people cas they are tapping into the psychological component of business thinking the demand is there for raw pussy so everyones going to pay it. Hence I've been traveling a lot and boycotting the FK out of them when they start to play this upcharge game with possible taboo.[/QUOTE]Wow the "no negotiation or no more appointments" is crazy.
Maybe I shouldn't list the CIP cost anymore and just keep it on the DL if I can negotiate it lower than the spa's standard ask to keep girls out of trouble and to keep spas from knowing what is really going on.
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Couple tactics
[QUOTE=TheWholeFnShow;6410626]Sooo I figured out why they had my number, they used to be all Chinese girls and customers only before under another name. They used to have this huge ass house down by kissena with like 6 rooms with queen/kings size beds and a huge driveway for 4-5 cars. Those are outcall girl prices.[/QUOTE]Some of them offers overnight bookings for around 3000-5000 depending on the quality of the provider. Usually there's no raws cas but its a 50/50 hit or miss on that part for overnights. Have tried many in manhattan and flushing, but not really worthy anymore cas some of them don't want to take the funs outside or use excuse like moody and wants to do something else (basically lazy).
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Nice deal
[QUOTE=JavBB;6410508]Good JAV woman, small B cute tits, shaved pussy. Light weight to throw around the bed a bit. Standing shower turned into FIV fucking and P2 P and sumatra. She's very accommodating if you get my drift as I slip in an out of that pussy "by accident" and she didn't mind. Finish that shower up real quick to fuck in the room. Japanese JAV moans are present and plentiful. I liked how she arches her back when I'm getting it in mish. Put a pillow under her ass to adjust the angle better and I planted my seed into that little pussy of hers after few minutes of hard core stuffing my dick into her. First round CIP and she sucked my dick clean after. Gave me a weak massage after but honestly who's good at massages. Round 2 I go for her ass and doggy fuck her pussy to smithereens until she iku iku iku also. Blew my second load into her and now my cock is sore as fuck.
$100 CIP upcharge. Negotiate and negotiate boys.[/QUOTE]Sounds like worth a shot, needa give her some nutrients this upcoming few days if she's still around.
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[QUOTE=IronClad999;6410909]Its already been happening cas koreans started doing same sht prior to winter 2022. .[/QUOTE]I always heard Koreans doing it for 100 before very recently.
As far as anyone getting a cut. It doesn't make sense that anyone is getting a cut besides the girl. Reason I say that is why negotiate at all? If they are taking say half the bbfscip cut of 100. Then why girls still offer it for a 100? The only money the mms and agent know is how many sessions and length she books. People tip just to tip too. And yeah, some dudes tip an extra 100 just for good service and not even for extras.
I think the "no negotiation or you are out of here" stance is because the girls are complaining about "oh X said he got it for this much and now you are charging me 2 x that" and customers getting pissy. I would bet even the japanese girls doing that is the same reason.
I do hear some of the stuff that goes on with japanese girls and dudes do some fucked up things like get extras but don't pay for them at the end, really hassle them for a lower price and etc. I flat out offer them 100 and say I don't have any more money and they take it or leave it.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6410769]That's kind of the vibe I got about her. I'll probably scratch her off my list and stick to my usual gut of avoiding popular girls. I feel like the less popular one will work hard as they are not as lazy and complacent with all of their appointments.[/QUOTE]There are lots of popular ones that work hard. Popular ones are popular for a reason. Many girls that are hotter than popular girls that don't provide good service or are YMMV are not popular.
Have you ever had Kylie? She works hard. She is a pleaser. She went hard and constant on a BJ to finish me off for like 10-15 minutes where lots of others would have quit or paused. She did not stop or slow down or switch position or anything.
Aiai got me up and finished me off an hour after a previous pop from fucking. Two pops are very rare for me within 4 hours of each other and both busting from fucking. Well, that is pretty much leaves Aiai.
I am going to see one of them today and it is a hard decision.
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PP himeka
Pics are her but glammed up. Very close to Naya in height and body. Asking price for bbfscip was 200. Yada yada yada her pussy is really good and tight and smooth and looked good. Hair on top but not on sides. Oh, don't touch nipples. You can grab breast but don't touch nipple. I will write a review when I have time.
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Not worth it
[QUOTE=IronClad999;6410983]Some of them offers overnight bookings for around 3000-5000 depending on the quality of the provider. Usually there's no raws cas but its a 50/50 hit or miss on that part for overnights. Have tried many in manhattan and flushing, but not really worthy anymore cas some of them don't want to take the funs outside or use excuse like moody and wants to do something else (basically lazy).[/QUOTE]Heard from a monger who did overnight from a girl.
But he ended up banging her once at night and once in the morning.(and the morning bang he had to ask her multiple times).
$4 k.
This is because the girl already worked all day so she just want to sleep so you ain't going to get an all night fuck fest.
It's never worth it to get the girl overnight unless she stops working early that day.
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[QUOTE=IronClad999;6410984]Sounds like worth a shot, needa give her some nutrients this upcoming few days if she's still around.[/QUOTE]You can find her films online. She looks exactly the same and performs the same (excellent). She's only at this spot until Monday (4/17).
Not sure if she's leaving NYC or moving to another spot. If anyone sees her advertised at another spot, let a brother know. She was that good for me.
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[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6411070]Pics are her but glammed up. Very close to Naya in height and body. Asking price for bbfscip was 200. Yada yada yada her pussy is really good and tight and smooth and looked good. Hair on top but not on sides. Oh, don't touch nipples. You can grab breast but don't touch nipple. I will write a review when I have time.[/QUOTE]That sounds like a terrible waste of money if she is that restrictive.
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[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6408622]That's some weird shit with the BF just hanging around the spa. Does he have an investment in the spa?. Years ago at NYAF, Vera was one of the first girls that I fucked there. No kissing was allowed with her but I didn't need it. I just remember looking down at her perfect little pussy spread open and wrapped around my cock as I was slowly pushing in and out of her. That image is burned into my spankbank forever.[/QUOTE]Didn't know Vera was running the show at NYAF. The last time I was there very recently I was greeted by a lady with heavy makeup by the name "Candy". I thought she is the MMS.
Is Vera still in the game? I guess she is never PSE because of her BF situation.
BTW, I was asked to be in that "legendary" chill room for a few minutes with the washing machine running. Somewhat weird vibes, lmao.
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Overnight
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6411122]Heard from a monger who did overnight from a girl.
But he ended up banging her once at night and once in the morning.(and the morning bang he had to ask her multiple times).
$4 k.
This is because the girl already worked all day so she just want to sleep so you ain't going to get an all night fuck fest.
It's never worth it to get the girl overnight unless she stops working early that day.[/QUOTE]Overnight is a dangerous game. I had an overnight where the girl took me to a Louis Vuitton store. Put on a pair of shoes, a dress and handbag. I just paid for it and thought it would be discounted from my overnight fee but it was not. She ended up sleeping with her feet in my face for some reason.
The girls lure you into a overnight when you see them regularly and tip them a nice reward. I think Mamasan also gives them a hint that I have paid for them in the past.
Same experience like posted. They show up tired and ask if they can rest. Ends up being the whole time.
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[QUOTE=TheWholeFnShow;6411215]That sounds like a terrible waste of money if she is that restrictive.[/QUOTE]I think body wise she was not my type. But I get the nipple thing. Someone probably bit it or pinched it too had and it was sensitive. I fucked her until 5 minutes left on the clock. LOL. I got my money's worth. LFK instead of DFK was the only thing that bothered me.
From now on if a girl has a bra size of 35 or over she is off my list. That is too big boned for me. Like 35 B is too big. Now 32 B it perfect (my exe's measurments).
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6411122]Heard from a monger who did overnight from a girl.
But he ended up banging her once at night and once in the morning.(and the morning bang he had to ask her multiple times).
$4 k.
This is because the girl already worked all day so she just want to sleep so you ain't going to get an all night fuck fest.
It's never worth it to get the girl overnight unless she stops working early that day.[/QUOTE]I remember PH Tori who was someone I saw a lot of at one time and she told me some guy booked her 3 hours. He took dick pills and thought he was going to bang her for a fill 3 hours. She was like no, and get another girl after one hour. I have never been as careful with a pussy as I was with hers. Well, except one time.
I miss that tight little muff.