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[QUOTE=TheWholeFnShow;6409590]I just creamed her earlier. It's weird the house already had my number. Wht the hell.[/QUOTE]Yes, I liked her too, blew a couple of loads in her. Agree with PokerBrah that right after I blew my first load, she sucked me really hard and it drove me pretty crazy too. Very good head game.
[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6408483]I recently saw a Japanese provider. She wanted 200 for bbfscip. I offered 100 (in Japanese even) and she said no and her BOSS got upset with her (so that means her agent not the mms at the shop) and told her no cheaper prices.
They are reading this board. I suggest we say asked for price. We all know we can negotiate. Now, I did get the bbfscip for 100 but was told not to say anything. So not saying the girl's name and probably won't do a review of her.
But yeah, if we keep saying she asked for 200 and I gave her 100 then everyone reading this is going to do the same. I know the AMP does not get any of the tips. But cannot say that for sure about the Japanese agents. Although how dumb do they have to be to say this.
Now, of course she could have been BSing me but then why give it to me for my price 5 minutes later?
I will never ever pay 200 or more for bbfscip so any time you see me post about getting it, I am giving the recommended price but I negotiated that shit down.
P.S. When she would not go below 200 at first I told her, Okay I am just going to fuck you longer and harder then. LOL.
Helen is still probably still my current ATF but I did like her better at DDY. The reason being that it was her room. I like that about the old PH also. It was that the girl had their own room vs any room could be any girl's. I am probably going to see her this weekend.
She did actually fucking ask me for the money upfront last time which I was like WTF? Never asked for it at SL and DDY or even BG and probably not at Grace. Even the prior 4 times I saw her at NYAF she didn't ask. And I saw her between 20 to 30 times.
In general I like handing over the money first but I rarely hand over the tip first.
There are definitely a variance of performances you get base on if you click with her.
For the rest of the lineup, I know Lucy and Fiona are good.[/QUOTE]I mentioned that shops or whoever are reading these forums and is probably telling the girls no on negotiations but I got infracted for doing so LOL.
But in regards to Helen / Wally I've always been curious about her. From someone who has been a regular client of hers, do you think her BBFS is worth it? I've always been attracted to her pictures and her legs but I never pulled the trigger. Does the experience change with her from CFS and BBFS? Only thing that is a little turn off for me is I avoid highly rated girls (ones with shit tons of reviews) it triggers a mental block for me, haha.
[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6408483]I recently saw a Japanese provider. She wanted 200 for bbfscip. I offered 100 (in Japanese even) and she said no and her BOSS got upset with her (so that means her agent not the mms at the shop) and told her no cheaper prices.
They are reading this board. I suggest we say asked for price. We all know we can negotiate. Now, I did get the bbfscip for 100 but was told not to say anything. So not saying the girl's name and probably won't do a review of her.
But yeah, if we keep saying she asked for 200 and I gave her 100 then everyone reading this is going to do the same. I know the AMP does not get any of the tips. But cannot say that for sure about the Japanese agents. Although how dumb do they have to be to say this.
Now, of course she could have been BSing me but then why give it to me for my price 5 minutes later?
I will never ever pay 200 or more for bbfscip so any time you see me post about getting it, I am giving the recommended price but I negotiated that shit down.
P.S. When she would not go below 200 at first I told her, Okay I am just going to fuck you longer and harder then. LOL.[/QUOTE]On same page, the only thing is what if their asking price is 300+? And eventually they just want to keep testing the market with even steeper premium tags in which no pussy can reflect that kind of bread. Worse is they won't tell us cip / no cip until the very last min when bb is already on the deed. Not trying to say "YMMV" won't work, but it seems these girls are so horribly brainwashed in gold digging nowadays its not even funny. Compared to these j-bangs, I've been seeing atf's lately between multiple states on a weekly basis and none of them mentioned upcharges nor counts the greens anymore. That's the rapport for "continuous transaction or aka long term income support". Not so called "firm 200, solid 300, no cip". Fk that sht; ain't got time for jacking their greediness up.
P.S.: that's a good plan on banging them longer and harder; we will make their efforts run a good exercise for our coins.
[QUOTE=WellHung123;6409740]Yes, I liked her too, blew a couple of loads in her. Agree with PokerBrah that right after I blew my first load, she sucked me really hard and it drove me pretty crazy too. Very good head game.[/QUOTE]She still won't budge on 200 cip right? Was the pussy tight? Face looks cute based on pics. If she also has game on top of tight pussy, might try her 001 game. Thanks man.
[QUOTE=TheWholeFnShow;6409590]I just creamed her earlier. It's weird the house already had my number. Wht the hell.[/QUOTE]Maybe they synced our contacts from one mobile device to another when rebranding agencies or just sharing client list among them. Its not uncommon cas NJ-manhattan-flushing-long island isn't too far fetched LOL.
[QUOTE=RyanLar;6409053]Himeka looks cute, she's not fully shaved.
Minoko. I think I saw her as I was leaving 10 ten today. Saw Aika, will report on her next.
I sometimes just say "no skin" - I've heard many girls say "no skin" to me also so I think they understand that. I also ask "kurewa deska" - I know it's not exactly right romanji but close enough for them to understand and the rest you can just use fingers to complete the negotiation.
Fresh in NYC is possible. I do see a price differences as well. Maybe it's because what you guys all said. The Flushing guys want a pretty face and not care as much about service (which many japanese girls suck at) and they got more $$ so lots of Japanese girls go there and not have to deal with non-Asians.[/QUOTE]Its multiple factors combined with some shops arent necessarily more upscale in flushing but they pump up prices to attractive other talents to join cas they know most clients in flushing will pay it and some would pay double the base price just for tip and not doing jack sht. Most just wants to chat with the girls and no action and they pay double tips. Main reason is most are having hard time with ED LOL.
[QUOTE=Jincs89;6408897]The reason to that is be because the Asian men in flushing do not negotiate the price I was once invited to a only Asian house a lot of young pretty girl that you guys like not my cup of tea but the girl I use to see told the owner to let me in even know I was getting some bad looks like I was some type of criminal that one of the reasons why they don't allow other race into these places these is like pocket change to them they don't complain on the prices LOL.[/QUOTE]Sometimes certain places doesn't have cheap rents so girls typically stay there for short periods on quick cash grabs then move on to new station.
See just one new girl today listed.
Coco NYCSE [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/362[/URL].
[QUOTE=IronClad999;6409898]She still won't budge on 200 cip right? Was the pussy tight? Face looks cute based on pics. If she also has game on top of tight pussy, might try her 001 game. Thanks man.[/QUOTE]For me, I negotiated to 100, but YMMV. Yes pussy was super tight.
Good JAV woman, small B cute tits, shaved pussy. Light weight to throw around the bed a bit. Standing shower turned into FIV fucking and P2 P and sumatra. She's very accommodating if you get my drift as I slip in an out of that pussy "by accident" and she didn't mind. Finish that shower up real quick to fuck in the room. Japanese JAV moans are present and plentiful. I liked how she arches her back when I'm getting it in mish. Put a pillow under her ass to adjust the angle better and I planted my seed into that little pussy of hers after few minutes of hard core stuffing my dick into her. First round CIP and she sucked my dick clean after. Gave me a weak massage after but honestly who's good at massages. Round 2 I go for her ass and doggy fuck her pussy to smithereens until she iku iku iku also. Blew my second load into her and now my cock is sore as fuck.
$100 CIP upcharge. Negotiate and negotiate boys.
[QUOTE=WellHung123;6410377]For me, I negotiated to 100, but YMMV. Yes pussy was super tight.[/QUOTE]Who is this girl we're talking about?
[QUOTE=WellHung123;6410377]For me, I negotiated to 100, but YMMV. Yes pussy was super tight.[/QUOTE]Anyone seen the other girls at this agency? Some are listed as 1200-1500 for 60 minutes?
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6409806]
But in regards to Helen / Wally I've always been curious about her. From someone who has been a regular client of hers, do you think her BBFS is worth it? I've always been attracted to her pictures and her legs but I never pulled the trigger. Does the experience change with her from CFS and BBFS? Only thing that is a little turn off for me is I avoid highly rated girls (ones with shit tons of reviews) it triggers a mental block for me, haha.[/QUOTE]That is a tough call. Helen and Yume PP do BBFS cia.
Now as far as feeling goes the japanese pussies tend to feel better and koreans are the best.
Helen is worth it to me because it is more mental with her.
Lots of Chinese women do it on the DL don't be afraid to ask.
[QUOTE=IronClad999;6409896]On same page, the only thing is what if their asking price is 300+? And eventually they just want to keep testing the market with even steeper premium tags in which no pussy can reflect that kind of bread. Worse is they won't tell us cip / no cip until the very last min when bb is already on the deed. Not trying to say "YMMV" won't work, but it seems these girls are so horribly brainwashed in gold digging nowadays its not even funny. Compared to these j-bangs, I've been seeing atf's lately between multiple states on a weekly basis and none of them mentioned upcharges nor counts the greens anymore. That's the rapport for "continuous transaction or aka long term income support". Not so called "firm 200, solid 300, no cip". Fk that sht; ain't got time for jacking their greediness up.
P.S.: that's a good plan on banging them longer and harder; we will make their efforts run a good exercise for our coins.[/QUOTE]Went to another all japanese shop after that. Girl said the same thing. 200 cip and I offered hiya ku and she said no at first then. Basically said ok but don't tell anyone or her boss will get mad.
So now we know this is going to happen to all japanese places. So its either we keep quiet and negotiate or we talk about how we negotiate and the bosses come down harder on the girls and they really don't budge.
I don't know if Boss means agent and maybe the get more girls here with the hopes of getting 200 for BBFS or if they get a cut but how would the know? Or if it is the house thinking that less people getting it is better for them.
I don't know but expect to hear it.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6409806]I mentioned that shops or whoever are reading these forums and is probably telling the girls no on negotiations but I got infracted for doing so LOL.
But in regards to Helen / Wally I've always been curious about her. From someone who has been a regular client of hers, do you think her BBFS is worth it? I've always been attracted to her pictures and her legs but I never pulled the trigger. Does the experience change with her from CFS and BBFS? Only thing that is a little turn off for me is I avoid highly rated girls (ones with shit tons of reviews) it triggers a mental block for me, haha.[/QUOTE]If we check closely on agencies posting model pics; they will occasionally attach side pics with reviews and details along with short summaries that are posted from this forum so it's no brainer that they are definitely observing behind the techno screen. Wally was very firm on 200, she did say she may retire within a few more years when she was at ddy / SL a while ago. Maybe she's trying to rack up huge sum for her personal piggy bank before keeping all fence closed. Her pussy was warm but not crazy tight to worth over a ben. She likes to play with dildos and toys too. Whenever there's a popular chick, I usually drop them off the list too cas we got no insurance if they spoil the session and sometimes if they are overwhelmed / burned they will slack off and give some of us lazy vibes.
[QUOTE=WellHung123;6410547]Anyone seen the other girls at this agency? Some are listed as 1200-1500 for 60 minutes?[/QUOTE]Sooo I figured out why they had my number, they used to be all Chinese girls and customers only before under another name. They used to have this huge ass house down by kissena with like 6 rooms with queen/kings size beds and a huge driveway for 4-5 cars. Those are outcall girl prices.