Streetwalker Reports

One has to remember that out working to make the most money they can. The problem is that you give into high prices they will quickly jack up their prices. If a girl is new or one that I have not been with before I often offer them a lower price. One advantage is if she is scammer or the service poor than I am not out that much money. The other thing to remember that there is no relationship between price and service. I have found that the cheaper SW's give the best service ironically enough.

[QUOTE=OCOverwatch;3337066]A few notes about the laughable shit that people say here:

1. If you find a SW with great rates, please let everyone know. But DON'T conspire together to bring rates down for every other girl, too. I've talked to some girls and they know about this site and what goes on here. If they don't get paid here in OC, then they'll go somewhere they do. Sure, that will make it easier to find $20 BJ's, but you get what you pay for, and you're ruining it for the guys who don't like crack heads and tweakers. If you don't want to pay what she wants, politely decline. Don't be an asshole or tell her that so-and-so will date you for such-and-such, because she's not so-and-so.

2. Only a FEW girls make the kind of money many of you seem to think they do. Read #1 again if you don't understand this. I know some of you will tell yourselves anything to rationalize paying the lowest amount possible, but you need to stop using your VERY wrong assumptions about how much a girl makes to do it. Respect the rates and the girls will respect you. Disrespect the rates, and you're disrespecting the girl. You can't complain that she gave you attitude after you just insulted her. Ironically, if she's in high enough demand to actually bring home a thousand a night, she doesn't have time for your low-balling bullshit, anyway. You all have this backwards. So just don't do it.

3. When you want to nickel and dime a SW, you are doing a few things other than being a presumptuous douchebag. You are also: holding up traffic and drawing police attention to yourself and everyone else (especially in the parking lot at H&H); creating conflict and risking your reputation with the girls as a whole; making it more likely that a girl will charge you the cheap guy tax if you ever become serious about dating her; and increasing the chance that a ***** gets messy about it and blows up your spot.

4. Treat EVERYONE with respect. You have no idea who is out there. Dealers, cholos, PIs, vice, and all other kinds of characters hang out at H&H. You don't know who is who. There are also other people who hang around to make sure the girls are safe. If there's one thing to remember out there it's that you will ALWAYS be outnumbered if you want to start shit. Just last night, I saw a couple of guys driving around who were matching up every girl to her Backpage ad. Not only is that stalking, but the girl who told them off about it was backed up by 3 big guys and another girl. How was it worth the risk? They were very lucky that they didn't get jumped. But otherwise, don't start nothing, and.

5. I have tons of experience and insider information that I will be sharing here from time-to-time. This is just my warm up post. Thanks for having me, and stay frosty out there boys.

The Notorious OCO.[/QUOTE]

Caving in to SW's initial asking price is weak, IMO. I'm usually quite polite to SW's, but respect and trust is a two way street. It's not automatic, since most of these chicks want to the least amount of work for the most amount of money. So please don't insult me by asking $100 or more for the very same services one can get in a decent notel, instead of the backseat of a cramped car. I look forward to reading more reports from OCO.

Dutch.

[QUOTE=Hargow20;3337285]One has to remember that out working to make the most money they can. The problem is that you give into high prices they will quickly jack up their prices. If a girl is new or one that I have not been with before I often offer them a lower price. One advantage is if she is scammer or the service poor than I am not out that much money. The other thing to remember that there is no relationship between price and service. I have found that the cheaper SW's give the best service ironically enough.[/QUOTE]

In years past many girls would visit trying to charge a high price and simply leave town after they discovered that guys were unwilling to pay their price. I am sure many BP girls do the same thing as well. Often times a SW will walk up to your car ask can you spend $40 or whatever price thiey want to charge. Before If the girl was new and hot I will agree if the price is reasonable. These days the risk is higher since the LE has been aggressively using the "intent to solicit prostitution" law. So it is best to simply ask the girl to get and drive away. I agree that negotiating outside with a SW in a area like H&H is to risky.

[QUOTE=DutchTreat;3337494]Caving in to SW's initial asking price is weak, IMO. I'm usually quite polite to SW's, but respect and trust is a two way street. It's not automatic, since most of these chicks want to the least amount of work for the most amount of money. So please don't insult me by asking $100 or more for the very same services one can get in a decent notel, instead of the backseat of a cramped car. I look forward to reading more reports from OCO.

Dutch.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hargow20;3337285]....remember that there is no relationship between price and service. I have found that the cheaper SW's give the best service ironically enough.[/QUOTE]Dear Mr Horsley makes just this point in this video. There are some great quotes in there.

"The thing is about whoring that you can get the sensation of sex without the boredom of its conveyance. ".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcuijtauGUc[/URL]

[QUOTE=DutchTreat;3337494]Caving in to SW's initial asking price is weak, IMO. I'm usually quite polite to SW's, but respect and trust is a two way street. It's not automatic, since most of these chicks want to the least amount of work for the most amount of money. So please don't insult me by asking $100 or more for the very same services one can get in a decent notel, instead of the backseat of a cramped car. I look forward to reading more reports from OCO.

Dutch.[/QUOTE]It really depends on the girl. If a SW's asking price is reasonable for her looks and attitude, it's not worth the risk to negotiate over a few dollars. When it comes to service, if it's lousy and you paid an extra $20 to find out, you're not going to see her again, so the one-time hit is probably worthy it. Cheaping out like this is like being a drunk who drives homes instead of taking a cab or Uber, and then complains when he gets a DUI. Think about it. At the street level, safety factors into prices.

Plus, if you don't like car dates, a lot of SW's have rooms or will get one with you. Or are on BP charging the same rates to come over. We shouldn't be offering them less because of how they choose to advertise. I wrote these posts because of the creepy fucking stalker guys last night. Obviously, the only reason a monger would track SWs is to figure out what they charge online so that they can low-ball them on the street. It's the same service guys. We're the one bringing the cramped cars. Some of the guys out there have vans, campers, quad cabs, and whatever with tinted windows, so maybe it's time for an upgrade for some of us?

And yeah, get phone numbers! If she doesn't have a room or won't give you her phone number, then she's a street rat, and yeah you'd be an idiot to overpay. I know they perform better sometimes, but I've always had a hard time giving my money to a SW I don't find attractive. Some guys are visual and some are physical. It's best when you know which you are.

You guys who are both are fucking lucky. Beers on you with the money you're saving!

OCO.

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[QUOTE=Hargow20;3337285]One has to remember that out working to make the most money they can. The problem is that you give into high prices they will quickly jack up their prices. If a girl is new or one that I have not been with before I often offer them a lower price. One advantage is if she is scammer or the service poor than I am not out that much money. The other thing to remember that there is no relationship between price and service. I have found that the cheaper SW's give the best service ironically enough.[/QUOTE]I would make two points. First, a lot of time if I negotiate a lower price with a SW, I get poor service. That said, most SW ask me for more than they will accept. Most of the time, I am just after a BJ which I am willing to pay 0. 40 for. Generally, SWs will ask if I can spend 0. 50-0. 60 for this service at first. Some SW just try to get as much as they can for as little service as possible. I've even had them ask for more money midway in the process. This is just bad luck.

This week I had a BSW on H&H that agreed to BBBJ for 0. 40 after starting at 0. 50. I thought this was a great deal. YMMV.

OAH.

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In all my years of cruising I have only one instance where paying more made a difference.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;3340798]I would make two points. First, a lot of time if I negotiate a lower price with a SW, I get poor service. That said, most SW ask me for more than they will accept. Most of the time, I am just after a BJ which I am willing to pay 0. 40 for. Generally, SWs will ask if I can spend 0. 50-0. 60 for this service at first. Some SW just try to get as much as they can for as little service as possible. I've even had them ask for more money midway in the process. This is just bad luck.

This week I had a BSW on H&H that agreed to BBBJ for 0. 40 after starting at 0. 50. I thought this was a great deal. YMMV.

OAH.[/QUOTE]

I was out on Harbor Blvd earlier this week and things are not looking good.

I arrived at 10 pm and there was no one out. Just alot of families out walking around which I haven't seen in the past.

At 11 pm girls starting coming out. A group of three girls (young WSW) from the far end of Hazard.

I nervously apporrached and I offered $80. One responded with "sigh, you can't do $100"? I said no as I knew they were going to be lame.

Around midnight I saw a tan girl that I thought was Hispanic. She ended up being from Thailand (via the Bay area).

I dated her for $80 and had a great time. Got her digits as I want to see her again.

After that the track was pretty much dead.

The new apartment building on hazard has a security guard that is scaring some girls.

The new upscale apartment complex on Harbor will probably cause the track to close down once it opens.

Harbor Blvd has been a track for at least 50 years but I think its on its last legs.

[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;3352238]I was out on Harbor Blvd earlier this week and things are not looking good.

I arrived at 10 pm and there was no one out. Just alot of families out walking around which I haven't seen in the past.

At 11 pm girls starting coming out. A group of three girls (young WSW) from the far end of Hazard.

I nervously apporrached and I offered $80. One responded with "sigh, you can't do $100"? I said no as I knew they were going to be lame.

Around midnight I saw a tan girl that I thought was Hispanic. She ended up being from Thailand (via the Bay area).

I dated her for $80 and had a great time. Got her digits as I want to see her again.

After that the track was pretty much dead.

The new apartment building on hazard has a security guard that is scaring some girls.

The new upscale apartment complex on Harbor will probably cause the track to close down once it opens.

Harbor Blvd has been a track for at least 50 years but I think its on its last legs.[/QUOTE]That's not what I saw.

I was out on Friday night starting at 11 PM and for $80 hooked, a half-Asian / half-Hispanic hottie by the name of Victoria right on the corner by the new Apts. Yes, the rent-a-cops were there across the street, but all they did was watch the girls walk by. After I split her, I brought her back to the track, the joint was jumpin'. I cruised Hazard and then the track behind CGs and there were at least 20+ girls out, even a few WSW along with a slew of BWS, so while the track could end up being affected by all the home building, I don't think they'll ever be able to kill it off. OC provides too much $$$ so at worst I think it just moves, maybe further south again.

This was a rare double-header evening. After Victoria, I decided to cruise over to Beach and give my nads some time to refill. On the corner of Beach and Cerritos I saw a tall and slender BSW walking towards the 7-11. Don't see too many out here these days so she was too good to pass up. Anyway, we parked in a dark & quiet industrial tract and after some outstanding head got my attention, we jumped in the back seat and I pounded that fine little ass until I dumped my second load of the night. $80 + tip for great service.

Yeah, it was a good night.

[QUOTE=Broadjumper;3353768]That's not what I saw.

I was out on Friday night starting at 11 PM and for $80 hooked, a half-Asian / half-Hispanic hottie by the name of Victoria right on the corner by the new Apts. Yes, the rent-a-cops were there across the street, but all they did was watch the girls walk by. After I split her, I brought her back to the track, the joint was jumpin'. I cruised Hazard and then the track behind CGs and there were at least 20+ girls out, even a few WSW along with a slew of BWS, so while the track could end up being affected by all the home building, I don't think they'll ever be able to kill it off. OC provides too much $$$ so at worst I think it just moves, maybe further south again.

This was a rare double-header evening. After Victoria, I decided to cruise over to Beach and give my nads some time to refill. On the corner of Beach and Cerritos I saw a tall and slender BSW walking towards the 7-11. Don't see too many out here these days so she was too good to pass up. Anyway, we parked in a dark & quiet industrial tract and after some outstanding head got my attention, we jumped in the back seat and I pounded that fine little ass until I dumped my second load of the night. $80 + tip for great service.

Yeah, it was a good night.[/QUOTE]This is excellent news!

Can you report more often even if you do not partake?

The more reports the better as a lot of us live a fair distance from Harbor!