Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=PilotAviator;2235131]Generational shift -- the 20-year olds are all of the internet generation (from the time of their birth, they had email, high-speed internet, I-tunes, etc. -- they do not know what a vinyl record, VHS-tape, or a standard music CD is for).

They are more mobile and a bit more independent and are easily found on CL, BP and other listings, frequently working from "a convenient, upscale in-call near you. ".

I know a few -- and I have visited a few of the convenient in-calls (not particularly up-scale in my experience) - and, FWIW, I prefer my ATF AMP and ATF provider.

The AMP is fairly typical for NoVA -- one of about 10 or so within three miles of the exit I use to depart from the 395-corridor to my residence.

My ATF-provider maintains the body of a 20-years-young vixen (what is it about some of these Asian women and their lack of body fat! If you look casually her face appears to be one you would expect to see on a young thirties -- look closer, and then you can see she is well over 40. And still drop-dead gorgeous. She has a work-ethic that I have learned is not-atypical of an independent K-girl and a sensual-spirit that the "young-uns" can't match. She is incredibly good (I would say gifted) as a massage technician, and admittedly, she is in this business for the money (tips).

When I compare her qualities and superb service to other providers I wonder: a) why do I even look for other locations to try (answer because I am a monger. Sigh); and b) whether I am stingy because I tip others at "standard rates" and tip her at a level that is only one-notch above standard rates (and her superb service is "off-scale high".

For those that decry NoVA for old providers and poor service. You are right to move-on to other locations or other hobbies.

Whatever you decide, please remember to always be nice to the ladies.

PA.

P.S. My ATF is UTR, is not looking for additional clients. The AMP regularly advertises in all the usual outlets.[/QUOTE]I've been out of pocket for a week or so and just now catching up and could not agree with you more.

[QUOTE=Mustang946;2240278]I've been out of pocket for a week or so and just now catching up and could not agree with you more.[/QUOTE]New poster, long time hobbyist in NoVA. Visited some good, some bad. Ugly or fat is where I draw the line. Mentally does not work. NOW THE QUESTION: Does half hour say you want to get down to business? I usually go for hour and it is sometimes like a cat and mouse game. I do like a hard massage but also a smile. Have had good luck. So, does the 1/2 hour say HAPPY to the providers? (Since no one I know would want a 1/2 hour real massage.) Thanks -Respond her, e experienced folks, or PM. We all need to learn what makes sense for everyone involved.

Happy Guy 2.

[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;2241819]New poster, long time hobbyist in NoVA. Visited some good, some bad. Ugly or fat is where I draw the line. Mentally does not work. NOW THE QUESTION: Does half hour say you want to get down to business? I usually go for hour and it is sometimes like a cat and mouse game. I do like a hard massage but also a smile. Have had good luck. So, does the 1/2 hour say HAPPY to the providers? (Since no one I know would want a 1/2 hour real massage.) Thanks -Respond her, e experienced folks, or PM. We all need to learn what makes sense for everyone involved.

Happy Guy 2.[/QUOTE]If so, then based on your experiences you should have plenty of intel to share and you've probably tried enough places to be able to answer your own question.

Where have you experienced a "cat and mouse" game when scheduling for an hour and where have you had good sessions?

Just my. 02 but you'll probably find seniors more willing to answer questions once you've established yourself as someone who contributes substantive info to the forum.

[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;2241819]New poster, long time hobbyist in NoVA. Visited some good, some bad. Ugly or fat is where I draw the line. Mentally does not work. NOW THE QUESTION: Does half hour say you want to get down to business? I usually go for hour and it is sometimes like a cat and mouse game. I do like a hard massage but also a smile. Have had good luck. So, does the 1/2 hour say HAPPY to the providers? (Since no one I know would want a 1/2 hour real massage.) Thanks -Respond her, e experienced folks, or PM. We all need to learn what makes sense for everyone involved.

Happy Guy 2.[/QUOTE]In my experience the half hour may save you a few bucks but it's always such a rush job that it's hardly worth going to an AMP for this service. Neither half or full hour is more likely to result in anything more than standard NoVa finish. Rarely, you might get lucky on the full hour option.

Saw this fine young lady:

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/nyomis-nuru-i-make-it-1-unforgettable-experience-new-pics-earlybird-special-b41pm-28/12526279[/URL]

I just came into a bit of a windfall, so I splurged and went for the Gold Nuru pkg. Pics are accurate and they are her. She is taller than I expected, very long legs, nice looking and a fine ass. So the session starts with a shower, she is soaping me up and paying a good amount of attention to the boys. I'm feeling her up all over and she has a nice body. She pulls a few stripper moves kinda dancing around (as much as can be done in a typical shower / tub). Then we move to the bed. She has nuru gel, it is super slippery. I have never done that before and it is nice and sexy. She body slides all over me working me up and down while also humping my ass, my calves and my ankles. Later, I flip and she works the front. She is good about teasing me to the edge, but not taking me too far. Finally, she works the anaconda and slips her finger gingerly into my ass. I have tried prostate massage a couple of times, but it has never been done so well. I thoroughly enjoyed myself, overall the session was great, but I doubt I'd spend so much again, maybe I'd go for one of the more modest packages.

[QUOTE=Heelman69;2242529]Saw this fine young lady:

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/nyomis-nuru-i-make-it-1-unforgettable-experience-new-pics-earlybird-special-b41pm-28/12526279[/URL]

I just came into a bit of a windfall, so I splurged and went for the Gold Nuru pkg. Pics are accurate and they are her. She is taller than I expected, very long legs, nice looking and a fine ass. So the session starts with a shower, she is soaping me up and paying a good amount of attention to the boys. I'm feeling her up all over and she has a nice body. She pulls a few stripper moves kinda dancing around (as much as can be done in a typical shower / tub). Then we move to the bed. She has nuru gel, it is super slippery. I have never done that before and it is nice and sexy. She body slides all over me working me up and down while also humping my ass, my calves and my ankles. Later, I flip and she works the front. She is good about teasing me to the edge, but not taking me too far. Finally, she works the anaconda and slips her finger gingerly into my ass. I have tried prostate massage a couple of times, but it has never been done so well. I thoroughly enjoyed myself, overall the session was great, but I doubt I'd spend so much again, maybe I'd go for one of the more modest packages.[/QUOTE]IMHO, unless you've seen a provider before and experienced her "premium" package, it's generally better to start off at the lower end of the service scale. Then, assuming you think the available upgrades are worth the extra $, you are in a stronger position to negotiate a discount. Since she's already scheduled you for an allotted amount of time, it's to her benefit to get as much $ out of you as she can for that hour. But if you use the big head and negotiate (politely, of course) by saying you hadn't planned to spend that much, only brought a certain amount of cash, etc. , or some other reason you're reluctant to upgrade, a good provider may upgrade you for less because she wants you to come back again.

As always, YMMV, but I've never had a problem upgrading with good providers (except for when extending a session causes a schedule conflict) because they want happy clients and repeat business. And if a provider cops an attitude for any reason, then she's not someone I would repeat with anyway.

P.S. Some of the above observations also pertain to providers with "a la carte" pricing models (like most of the girls who advertise on [URL]wix.com[/URL], etc.). I hate "a la carte" pricing with a passion and I steer clear of those providers for that reason. Their goal is to get you in the door and then upsell you for every possible extra they can. The oThER site is full of reviews from mongers who paid 300+ for a freaking HJ! But, if you're one of those who just has to try Elena Nuru or one of those types of providers, you're better off to start with the basic package and, using the big head, trying to negotiate any upgrades.

Happy hunting and stay safe!

[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;2241819]New poster, long time hobbyist in NoVA. Visited some good, some bad. Ugly or fat is where I draw the line. Mentally does not work. NOW THE QUESTION: Does half hour say you want to get down to business? I usually go for hour and it is sometimes like a cat and mouse game. I do like a hard massage but also a smile. Have had good luck. So, does the 1/2 hour say HAPPY to the providers? (Since no one I know would want a 1/2 hour real massage.) Thanks -Respond her, e experienced folks, or PM. We all need to learn what makes sense for everyone involved.

Happy Guy 2.[/QUOTE]My experience is with most of the Korean AMPs (KAMPs) I visited, an hour = 45 minutes or less, a lot of times the provider being lazy and just wants to get tipped and have the session over as quickly as possible.

With Chinese AMPs (CAMPs), I have received almost all the time, the full allotted time. Most of the CAMPs, I always go for the massage minus the TS / shower. I usually get a better massage from the CAMPs.

Thanks all for your replies and insight.

I was worried when requesting an hour, they feel that they make much more tips for 2 half hour guys. Or maybe they are happy for what they get. On Sunset place, got old friendly provider that smelled of smoke that did the hour in 45 and asked for more tip than. 4. I said what? . and smiled. Think they are trained to ask for more no matter what. Agree half hour is too rushed to get in mood. For me.

Happy Guy 2.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2242835]IMHO, unless you've seen a provider before and experienced her "premium" package, it's generally better to start off at the lower end of the service scale. Then, assuming you think the available upgrades are worth the extra $, you are in a stronger position to negotiate a discount. Since she's already scheduled you for an allotted amount of time, it's to her benefit to get as much $ out of you as she can for that hour. But if you use the big head and negotiate (politely, of course) by saying you hadn't planned to spend that much, only brought a certain amount of cash, etc. , or some other reason you're reluctant to upgrade, a good provider may upgrade you for less because she wants you to come back again.

As always, YMMV, but I've never had a problem upgrading with good providers (except for when extending a session causes a schedule conflict) because they want happy clients and repeat business. And if a provider cops an attitude for any reason, then she's not someone I would repeat with anyway.

P.S. Some of the above observations also pertain to providers with "a la carte" pricing models (like most of the girls who advertise on [URL]wix.com[/URL], etc.). I hate "a la carte" pricing with a passion and I steer clear of those providers for that reason. Their goal is to get you in the door and then upsell you for every possible extra they can. The oThER site is full of reviews from mongers who paid 300+ for a freaking HJ! But, if you're one of those who just has to try Elena Nuru or one of those types of providers, you're better off to start with the basic package and, using the big head, trying to negotiate any upgrades.

Happy hunting and stay safe![/QUOTE]JM;.

I agree, I almost ALWAYS will tell a gal, "hey, let's do the half hour just to get acquainted. " Then you can feel them out for how they deliver on attitude and quality of service as well as what's on the menu. Of course, what usually happens to me is that they figure out I'm a nice guy and not LE or a thug or an asshole, so I usually get the full treatment thereafter, for the lower price. I, too hate "a la carte" and avoid that like the clap. As I stated, I came into a windfall and wanted to treat myself and I was very pleased with the service. I just don't really ever spend more than about. 8 - $. 2 for a GFE (with CFS, of course). You can negotiate down, you just have to tell them that all you have is X this time or ask for a "short time" because you have an appointment or meeting scheduled and that resets the whole framework. Anyway, thanks for the comments.

[QUOTE=Heelman69;2242529]Saw this fine young lady:

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/BodyRubs/nyomis-nuru-i-make-it-1-unforgettable-experience-new-pics-earlybird-special-b41pm-28/12526279[/URL]

I just came into a bit of a windfall, so I splurged and went for the Gold Nuru pkg. Pics are accurate and they are her. She is taller than I expected, very long legs, nice looking and a fine ass. So the session starts with a shower, she is soaping me up and paying a good amount of attention to the boys. I'm feeling her up all over and she has a nice body. She pulls a few stripper moves kinda dancing around (as much as can be done in a typical shower / tub). Then we move to the bed. She has nuru gel, it is super slippery. I have never done that before and it is nice and sexy. She body slides all over me working me up and down while also humping my ass, my calves and my ankles. Later, I flip and she works the front. She is good about teasing me to the edge, but not taking me too far. Finally, she works the anaconda and slips her finger gingerly into my ass. I have tried prostate massage a couple of times, but it has never been done so well. I thoroughly enjoyed myself, overall the session was great, but I doubt I'd spend so much again, maybe I'd go for one of the more modest packages.[/QUOTE]Thanks Heelman. Took your suggestion late Thursday morning.

Nyomi was delightful, safe, sweet, warm. Friendly, great chemistry and focused on making you happy. So much so (since I was slow) that we went way over in time. First time I tried an independent and it was wonderful. LE she said was not a concern since she did not provide sex, just a wild Nuru and Tantric massage and did not work out of a hotel, but her home. So they don't care. I asked, as I was a little paranoid and why wasn't she also concerned.

Relative to the money, I put $$ in an envelope and thinking back, it was less cost per hour than the typical AMP and much, much better and high quality, a great value considering the services and she spoke good English so we communicated a lot. A shower together before and one after We went to heaven. No tip, no issues, discussed it. Not greedy. Just a wonderful experience and fun and satisfying. Recommend her highly, treat her nice and respectfully and she is a winner and worth it!

Other proven recommendations appreciated. Which I realize is hard since I am a newbie here. PM if you want, or, share for all our happiness. I told her I got her name off a good review and she appreciated that she was appreciated and did not mind the postings. Myself, I am interested in sexy hot fun but not FS types or any risky business. I can't understand how some do DATY, but I guess we all do what we want.

Happy Guy 2.

Visited CAMP in NoVA. Nice slim sweet 25 yr old provider. Shockingly nice and satisfying. My type. +Little shy (Seniors can PM me for details.).

Happy Guy 2.

[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;2245979]Visited CAMP in NoVA. Nice slim sweet 25 yr old provider. Shockingly nice and satisfying. My type. +Little shy (Seniors can PM me for details.).

Happy Guy 2.[/QUOTE]It was so good yesterday that I went back TODAY. Had good night dreams. Had the time and the $.

But, left unhappy. Started off real nice. GFE. Talking playing touching mutual feeling. I had left in plain view the. 6 on the side table as was requested yesterday. To avoid any negotiations that kill the mood (for me). She said "massage me" and I did on her back. Lots of fun. Then my turn and some back walking which I need and then some hugging stuff. Mostly OTC, and some under. Asked her and tried to undo bra for some kissing of beautiful (I imagined) full breasts. She leans close to my ear and said: 1 $. I said "your kidding. I thought you loved me. " So no progress and so turned off that nothing really worked well as she tried the NOVA. When 60 minutes up, she said "want some water". And that was it.

When she left room for water, I took. 2 back off the table leaving. 4 tip. Total cost. 6 + . 4 = $ I left feeling she thinks I was rich and a sucker. She is wrong. I am only rich. I guess it was fun while it lasted.

In response to several PM's: It is Relax in Oakton on Hunter Mill Road. Provider was Anna. A nice 25 yr old sweet attractive good masseuse. Go for some fun but beware of greedy potential up sell. $ for what? Nothing. Quite a tease! I like to play fair and on the table (no pun intended). But not taken for a ride. Maybe she thought I was hooked and would pay anything for anything. My big head kicked in and said WTF, no.

Best of Luck. PM me if you have young slim friendly suggestions for safe fun.

Happy Guy 2.

2.

I hit up an old Chinese syndicate spot in LoCo, off of E. Holly. Luckily most of the businesses were closed on Sunday so no need to do a "walk of shame" LOL Just average noVA experience but she took direction well. I didn't see Anna there, who migrated over from Swan just down the road, several months ago. Maybe she moved on? My provider was ok looking (the only one there) but nothing to brag about. It's a good back-up spot.

[QUOTE=Serpico99;2248459]I hit up an old Chinese syndicate spot in LoCo, off of E. Holly. Luckily most of the businesses were closed on Sunday so no need to do a "walk of shame" LOL Just average noVA experience but she took direction well. I didn't see Anna there, who migrated over from Swan just down the road, several months ago. Maybe she moved on? My provider was ok looking (the only one there) but nothing to brag about. It's a good back-up spot.[/QUOTE]Anna told me that she was going back to the old Swan location at the end of October.

[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;2246708]It was so good yesterday that I went back TODAY. Had good night dreams. Had the time and the $.

But, left unhappy. Started off real nice. GFE. Talking playing touching mutual feeling. I had left in plain view the. 6 on the side table as was requested yesterday. To avoid any negotiations that kill the mood (for me). She said "massage me" and I did on her back. Lots of fun. Then my turn and some back walking which I need and then some hugging stuff. Mostly OTC, and some under. Asked her and tried to undo bra for some kissing of beautiful (I imagined) full breasts. She leans close to my ear and said: 1 $. I said "your kidding. I thought you loved me. " So no progress and so turned off that nothing really worked well as she tried the NOVA. When 60 minutes up, she said "want some water". And that was it.

When she left room for water, I took. 2 back off the table leaving. 4 tip. Total cost. 6 + . 4 = $ I left feeling she thinks I was rich and a sucker. She is wrong. I am only rich. I guess it was fun while it lasted.

In response to several PM's: It is Relax in Oakton on Hunter Mill Road. Provider was Anna. A nice 25 yr old sweet attractive good masseuse. Go for some fun but beware of greedy potential up sell. $ for what? Nothing. Quite a tease! I like to play fair and on the table (no pun intended). But not taken for a ride. Maybe she thought I was hooked and would pay anything for anything. My big head kicked in and said WTF, no.

Best of Luck. PM me if you have young slim friendly suggestions for safe fun.

Happy Guy 2.

2.[/QUOTE]100 for not much more than a massage is not that smart but hey your rich so it doesn't hurt as bad right?

Anyway, there are rarely any worthwhile HJs here in NOVA for less than 140. Which I would just go to my video library. Hah.

PC out.