BBFS Providers Manhattan

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6406247]Very true as with PB and Genghis mentioned before; I had similar exp although not always easy, but girls will notice we won't be happy as soon as we are shot down with 200-300 esp no cip. Once they learned how "upsetting" our market game, they should cool off with the 200-300. But there will always be exceptions (maho at 10 tenclub is one of them). We need to hold our grounds firm and not give them any space to charge us; already boycotted many girls. There might be more boycotting soon LOL. Dont have time for transactional duds here.[/QUOTE]You are well aware that outside this forum, no one is complaining about prices and that's why that getting it. If anyone boycotts the prices no one will care except here.

If the price is out of your range, find someone who is in that range.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6406006]Something happened because the girl Zumi went from 220/320 to now 260/400.

What the actual fuck.[/QUOTE]She got booked a lot I would bet. I found that in every case that I could get the mms to talk on. The descriptions and pics did get me interested in her.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6406247]Very true as with PB and Genghis mentioned before; I had similar exp although not always easy, but girls will notice we won't be happy as soon as we are shot down with 200-300 esp no cip. Once they learned how "upsetting" our market game, they should cool off with the 200-300. But there will always be exceptions (maho at 10 tenclub is one of them). We need to hold our grounds firm and not give them any space to charge us; already boycotted many girls. There might be more boycotting soon LOL. Dont have time for transactional duds here.[/QUOTE]And you got to hold out. The last girl I got at WSD took 100 right away. Some take it after the shower. Some take it as I am getting the condom. Some take it after I've been fucking them hard for 15 minutes.

One thing though that sort of helps is to show her the money. Show her the 500 then she says no remove it and give her the 400 (or whatever). Some will not budge until you show you will not bend.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6406242]The last 4 pics seem awfully familiar to the ones from DDY / SL before; esp the 2 with her in treaded blue yoga pants. I think she rebranded here, there was a chick that offered pse at SL / DDY before using those pics. The first 4 seems random add-ons.[/QUOTE]I don't recognize them and I've seen all their japanese girls since last October or even before.

[QUOTE=BBPornoGeek;6404573]Sunday I called up NYAF, and asked for Helen. Mama-san knows me and what I want, giving me Helen's last appointment for the day. I'm not worried as no matter how tired she is, she gives it her all when I'm with her but when I walked into her room, I was kinda worried. You see, Helen was looking at me with a really pissed off look. Thinking this is going to be bad, she slapped me! Surprised I was like WTF? She then yelled at me for being insensitive because I haven't seen her in over a month. Utterly confused I had nothing to say until she broke into a smile and grabbed me in a tight hug. Women! WTF? The session went pretty much like 2 teenagers who haven't had sex in a long as time, desperate for release. At one point we had a finger up each other's ass in a 69. Still hot as fuck and while not as tight as Merry, Helen and I have a connection that made it so much better. All holes were had multiple times and I went over time by close to an hour. As I was getting ready to leave she asked if I could wait and we'll leave together. Why not? We went to K-town for a late night supper before parting ways. I asked if she would stay the night with me but she declined saying she's all fucked out for the day. LOL.[/QUOTE]She's probably been my atf since she left BG. I actually think I was the first (or maybe second) client she saw when she came back from China at Grace.

She is one that is very good at making you feel like you really have a connection. That she just might really like you. She does a lot of things the other girls don't do for return customers. But I already had this experience with a previous provider. They all have a connection to our wallets. You have to get so far to be getting something that her other 20 best customers are not getting to be special. It was hard for me to not actually get feelings for her but like I said I went through it once before and F that again.

I'd say out of all the escorts I thought I had a connection with, only one actually became a friend after she stopped providing. But for months after that she still saw me as a wallet. But also, I never gave her one dollar to see her outside which pissed her off. Took a long time to past that nonsense. "you cheap, in China guy gives girl hundred dollar gifts to go out" -- LOL okay would be my answer.

She does have a great pussy and you can tell her real orgasms by a squirt of juice she gets while fucking her or you can taste it while eating her pussy. She says, I had X orgasms and I am like no you had why orgasms I was counting. Only bad thing it banging my dick against the end of her pussy. It bashes the fuck out of the lips on my dick. I think about putting on a condom to stop that. But I ain't resisting that BBFS ffs.

Saw Helen, though IMHO she's over rated. Wanted 200 tip.

Mamasan, total spinner, is way hot though. She told me she sees customers- any intel on this?

Set up appointment and will report back regardless.

[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6406662]

And you got to hold out. The last girl I got at WSD took 100 right away. Some take it after the shower. Some take it as I am getting the condom. Some take it after I've been fucking them hard for 15 minutes.

One thing though that sort of helps is to show her the money. Show her the 500 then she says no remove it and give her the 400 (or whatever). Some will not budge until you show you will not bend.

I don't recognize them and I've seen all their japanese girls since last October or even before.[/QUOTE]I concur with the above, I tried those methods and be very upfront on making the stadium look awkward to point where girl knows I won't be repeating and won't be satisfied. In most cases I have curtailed my sessions from 1 hour to 45 minutes or even 30 minutes the min they start upcharging 2-3 bens and won't budge. Hence the last 2 x I saw maho was a great example; I only booked hhr no matter how much time I have in manhattan. I only came across those pics with a short glance either ddy / sl or somewhere in manhattan among the shops we know; it could be a reused brand or just similar. We will go with the flow.

[QUOTE=BBPornoGeek;6406470]Thanks. Figured that might be the case here. In LA, these "special" ones really do special services. Just don't repeat though. They're there to nab sugar daddies so they'll play really well for the session, ask for number and see if you want to sugar her for exclusive time. They do mean exclusive as in kept woman and they don't see others. Expect 5 figure monthly spending money though.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure theyre still actively seeking sugar fellows otherwise they wouldn't be listed on the roster for consistent amount of time and still hangs LOL. Its like playing candidacy for pageants; they want the most out of the hobby game to ensure their wallets are covered. The calculations arent too far off; they did the math right in doing this part time gig while meeting tons of peters and johns in the outside shop world trying to nitpick and earn silver coins here and there. Its a win win for them cas many would fall for it.

[QUOTE=BBPornoGeek;6406473]She started doing the upfront payment and counting because there were scammers out there. Got BB then didn't pay the upcharge at the end. They ruin the game entirely. If one doesn't want to pay the upsell then don't go for it. Going for it then not pay just ruins the game for everyone and you can be sure the girls tell others about their experience.[/QUOTE]She did offer it as freebie when she started working at PPC and bubblegirls. A lot were grandfathered in with freebies cas she clicks well with her eng game and nice background. Maybe there were many days where she requested upfront charges and client falsely promised her but didn't pay a dime at the end; that's a diff story than freebie. A lot of times she doesn't ask for upcharge fees in the beginning or during the session so maybe that rub the person the wrong way of thinking they can have freebies but actually she wanted extra greens. Its a 2 way street sometimes.

[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6406662]She got booked a lot I would bet. I found that in every case that I could get the mms to talk on. The descriptions and pics did get me interested in her.[/QUOTE]If you do check her, hope to see where her baseline raw price menu is, but from the sound of her packed schedule she might be another maho that holds pocky sticks at 200 cip LOL.

I also posted this in the High End thread, but feel like maybe it would get more views / opinions here.

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but seems close enough. Would love to see a thread specifically for Er*s providers (who are usually high end) who've been confirmed to provide Gina Rollins level service (BBFS / CIP, BBGreek / CIA, no holes barred, etc.). I feel like that would save a lot of mongers lots of wasted time and effort. Just a thought / suggestion. Any thoughts?

This is the same rebranded version of original "katia" at PPC, then went by "Asumi" in NOVA MP, and now she's "carrie" on(yes pun intended). Too much rebrands within a few months of USA visit and she has a notorious neg. Impression on xxx board; despite high scores, there were a few mixed where she seemed lacking gfe exp. but this could have changed

Xxx I'd: katia (380165) and Asumi (380880).

Asking price: 300 cip with video, 200 with just cip no films.

*CIP might be negotiable depending on multiple factors as always, but she seemed very firm on the above menu*.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6406227]Hotomi NYCSE [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/360[/URL] - looks kawaii, first 4 and last 4 pics don't seem to be the same exact person. I'd prefer the first 4 pics though if real!

Ginbasha NYCSE [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/359[/URL] -JAV "26".[/QUOTE]Hotomi: I've got no intel on her. All I will say is that the last 4 pics look filtered, and the first 4 pics (the sexy school girl pics) look way too good to be true IMO. I will wait for the reviews on this one.

Ginbasha: Another girl who was at MLE. JAV name is Fuka Kureha. Has 4 or 5 vids that are a bit dated now. Odd that she went from MLE to NYCSE and not 10 TC. And no longer using her JAV name on top of that. One of her vids says she is 34 years old and that vid is from like 2018, so do the math. She's not 26 LOL. There is a positive review of Fuka (Ginbasha) in the NNJ thread. I stopped by MLE last week to get a look at her, but I didn't go forward with the session. Instead I ended up fucking Erina her first day at 10 TC. What a crazy AMP adventure that was! The hooker gods must have been watching over me, because I walked on 2 different girls before I ended up just going into the city where I had a blessed session with Erina.

BTW there are two J-girls at MLE (Kirara and Minoko) that look pretty good. Coming soon to a shop near you: [URL]http://myluxeescape.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Archie;6406824]Saw Helen, though IMHO she's over rated. Wanted 200 tip.

Mamasan, total spinner, is way hot though. She told me she sees customers- any intel on this?

Set up appointment and will report back regardless.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree with you more. Helen is definitely overrated, not worth 2 Ben's tip. BTW, she asked for donations upfront, which is somewhat a turnoff.

Not too impressed with the current lineup at NYAF, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Archie;6406824]Saw Helen, though IMHO she's over rated. Wanted 200 tip.

Mamasan, total spinner, is way hot though. She told me she sees customers- any intel on this?

Set up appointment and will report back regardless.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about Vera good luck with that. Ain't going to happen. The other week when I saw Helen I saw Vera's BF in the chill room. And yes, it is her BF. I remember him from the chill room at NYAW.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6406973]I concur with the above, I tried those methods and be very upfront on making the stadium look awkward to point where girl knows I won't be repeating and won't be satisfied. In most cases I have curtailed my sessions from 1 hour to 45 minutes or even 30 minutes the min they start upcharging 2-3 bens and won't budge. Hence the last 2 x I saw maho was a great example; I only booked hhr no matter how much time I have in manhattan. I only came across those pics with a short glance either ddy / sl or somewhere in manhattan among the shops we know; it could be a reused brand or just similar. We will go with the flow.[/QUOTE]What did you think about Maho's BJ? That girl can fucking DT. She almost loses her Japanese citizenship over that.

I have not many options to shorten it. 30 minutes would never work. Sometimes 45 but even that I don't trust. Only if a girl is 500 hr / 400 45 minutes will I do that. It is not even a thing of trying to last long. The only way I can reliably bust during fucking is in mish but the girl cannot have her legs spread. They either got to be down or wrapped around me. Doggy sometimes but I have to go buck fucking wild and most girls are leaning forward and making it hard as hell to bang if I do that.

Oh, know a little Japanese but I am going to learn how to say 100 in Japanese tonight. And if I can figure out no condom I will try to learn that too.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6407130]This is the same rebranded version of original "katia" at PPC, then went by "Asumi" in NOVA MP, and now she's "carrie" on(yes pun intended). Too much rebrands within a few months of USA visit and she has a notorious neg. Impression on xxx board; despite high scores, there were a few mixed where she seemed lacking gfe exp. but this could have changed

Xxx I'd: katia (380165) and Asumi (380880).

Asking price: 300 cip with video, 200 with just cip no films.

*CIP might be negotiable depending on multiple factors as always, but she seemed very firm on the above menu*.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Damn you are all over the different states LOL. She cannot escape. Ha.

[QUOTE=Member#1174;6407299]Couldn't agree with you more. Helen is definitely overrated, not worth 2 Ben's tip. BTW, she asked for donations upfront, which is somewhat a turnoff.

Not too impressed with the current lineup at NYAF, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Agreed, $200 is too much for someone of her age. She has a great body and service is good but we want to see cheaper CIP as we've seen that from younger and prettier girls.

She also wanted $100 for greek so that's like $300.

[QUOTE=IronClad999;6407089]She did offer it as freebie when she started working at PPC and bubblegirls. A lot were grandfathered in with freebies cas she clicks well with her eng game and nice background. Maybe there were many days where she requested upfront charges and client falsely promised her but didn't pay a dime at the end; that's a diff story than freebie. A lot of times she doesn't ask for upcharge fees in the beginning or during the session so maybe that rub the person the wrong way of thinking they can have freebies but actually she wanted extra greens. Its a 2 way street sometimes.[/QUOTE]I think so.

1. people tell too many others about freebie. Got no discretion.

2. dumb asses show up demanding freebie and got no chill.

3. dudes who stiff them after and leave them hanging and girls can't stop them from leaving.

- some of these guys probably claims it was free on the board which drives a vicious cycle.

Asking for that money upfront is definitely a mood killer.

[QUOTE=GenghisDong;6406662]One thing though that sort of helps is to show her the money. Show her the 500 then she says no remove it and give her the 400 (or whatever). Some will not budge until you show you will not bend.[/QUOTE]Flashing the cash is a legit tactic. I flashed an extra hundred to (Korean) Jamie when I met her for the first time. She saw the bill in my wallet and said "want to fuck no condom for $100?