Non Pro's

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6797519]Yes, there are a lot of scams and bad people on those sites.

Right off the bat, if someone favorites me or sends me a message without viewing my profile that is really suspicious and kind of weird.

Second, the photos. If the photos are obviously not from around here, and especially if they are from someplace like Italy or Greece give it all a miss. At best 99% of the time they will have unrealistic expectations and be obnoxiously entitled.

If they are either really evasive about giving you a phone number or paradoxically, give you a phone number in their first couple of messages, that is a scammy smell.

Once you are switched off of messaging on the site and in contact via phone you can both exchange photos and at that point you get a clue what she really will look like.

Girls who switch cities around are to be avoided.

If you discover they have lied to you early on just remember that is only the first lie and will never be the only or last one.

Use tineye to figure out where else their photos have been. That can help you find fakes and also can help you figure out if she is just a regular working girl looking to overcharge you.[/QUOTE]I'd upvote you if I could. Been messaging a few girls and this one and I had a lot of back and forth.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/178f2a16-acd8-43e3-a036-63c585b69552[/URL]

Long story short, she was able to produce a selfie of her with one of my requests but then the next time after a few exchanges of pics we were going to meet up. Gave me an address to a central apartment but when I asked for another selfie it was a terrrible photoshop of the first one. Like. Idiotically obvious. Wouldn't give me any other attempt or request just said they were totally different.

Bummer. The vids and pics I got were so damn hot. Would have loved to actually meet this chick.

[QUOTE=HelloThar;6798271]Oof, was chatting with one of these. Thanks for saving me the trouble. I've been holding off lately on discussing ppm early, but maybe I should go back to that to avoid wasting time.

A lot of these women get random offers so their ppm levels adjust accordingly, but it's still ridiculous. You might as well get someone you know is good on the other board, go for 2 hours, and call it a day at these rates. You wouldn't have to text for days either.[/QUOTE]I honestly think a lot of these girls / women are quoting high numbers to see what sticks. They often asking almost a question. "600?" And try to see if the man will bite. None, and I do mean none of these woman are worth that much.

I talked to one last night who is cool and she said "how do you benefit a woman who is willing to be attentive to you when your needs need fulfillment?" I told her to turn that question around. How does any woman benefit me for helping with my hard earned money. I'm the one who has to work 40+ hours a week to get paid. In turn, most of these women have to only spend one hour with any given person from the site. There is definitely more loss on the male's side when it comes to equity in these arrangements.

Now I'm not calling to be cheap but I'm certainly calling to be real in the perceived value of the pussy LOL it ain't $600/ pop.

So-Crates.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ab7d2bb-b820-47d0-9c9e-6944891adb5e[/URL]

Talked to this one on Friday night. Got her number which was a 636 area code. I'm originally from the St. Louis, MO area so I recognized it immediately and she said she was from that area. Come to think about it, I recognize the profile from the STL-SA area.

She seemed cool and complained about some guy stiffing her on pics she sent him. She said I was so cool she sent the pics to me just because. Benign pics (scantily clad) but nothing to get excited about. Anyway, we were going on and on. Never got into the "how much talk". She said she just moved to Washington from Missouri a couple weeks ago and is starting a job but is struggling with COL.

At one point she claimed she was trying to scrounge up change to get something to eat so she was Foor Dashing or Uber Eats-ing, I guess. It was about 9 pm and she was complaining that she was $15 short in a way to suggest she needed help but didn't outright ask. I played dumb then she came out and just asked if I could send her $20. I told her no help until we've actually met up already. She begged that she would give me address and then give apartment number once I sent the money. Haha, good one. I knew then.

Threw that yoke off!

So-Crates.

[QUOTE=CornholeBi;6798349]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/178f2a16-acd8-43e3-a036-63c585b69552[/URL]
...when I asked for another selfie it was a terrible photoshop of the first one. Like. Idiotically obvious...
...The VIDS and pics I got were so damn hot. [/QUOTE]If these hoes have gotten tech savvy enough to create deep fake VIDS of themselves I would give the Seeking site a hard pass.

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;6798354]... In turn, most of these women have to only spend one hour with any given person from the site. There is definitely more loss on the male's side when it comes to equity in these arrangements.
[/QUOTE]I'm pretty clear with my expectations with these girls (and that is ALWAYS a good idea) and I rarely go for girls who just want to meet up for an hour. My expectations are that we spend three or four hours together, minimum. That might include dinner or drinks but it might also be a sweaty fuckfest where we go for seconds and thirds and even fourths. That's what I consider fair for 400 to 500. Exceptionally skilled girls or girls with very generous boundaries might be able to ask for more and I might oblige them.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6798535]I'm pretty clear with my expectations with these girls (and that is ALWAYS a good idea) and I rarely go for girls who just want to meet up for an hour. My expectations are that we spend three or four hours together, minimum. That might include dinner or drinks but it might also be a sweaty fuckfest where we go for seconds and thirds and even fourths. That's what I consider fair for 400 to 500. Exceptionally skilled girls or girls with very generous boundaries might be able to ask for more and I might oblige them.[/QUOTE]As you should be! I more referring to the ones who are looking to charge like a pro where it's based on 1 hook up and go. Those ladies can kick rocks!

[QUOTE=CornholeBi;6798349]I'd upvote you if I could. Been messaging a few girls and this one and I had a lot of back and forth.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/178f2a16-acd8-43e3-a036-63c585b69552[/URL]

Long story short, she was able to produce a selfie of her with one of my requests but then the next time after a few exchanges of pics we were going to meet up. Gave me an address to a central apartment but when I asked for another selfie it was a terrrible photoshop of the first one. Like. Idiotically obvious. Wouldn't give me any other attempt or request just said they were totally different.

Bummer. The vids and pics I got were so damn hot. Would have loved to actually meet this chick.[/QUOTE]No wonder this one was a scammer, she calls out to you to support her wish list in her title! Add girls highlighting their wishlist ("if you really want to make yourself stand out.") to the avoid. Also she wants a guy "good at spoiling". Guys just look right through these red flags over some cute (fake) pics.

[QUOTE=BugManLet;6798717]No wonder this one was a scammer, she calls out to you to support her wish list in her title! Add girls highlighting their wishlist ("if you really want to make yourself stand out.") to the avoid. Also she wants a guy "good at spoiling". Guys just look right through these red flags over some cute (fake) pics.[/QUOTE]I would filter out every SA chick who bothered to make a wishlist if I could. I don't mind gifts in person, but not when randomly asked, or worse yet, when you haven't met before. Major red flag for sure.

And SA is full of these types. It makes you really appreciate the rare sweet girls who you really do want to spoil without them asking. A lot of these women just don't know what they're doing or are too jaded to care.

Good reminder never to pay anything before meeting. Guarantee they will ghost you right afterwards and move onto the next mark.

Yeah, Wish Lists are a clear warning sign that you should stay away.

Had a weird one on a related note a few months ago. She wouldn't meet in public and because she had severe anxiety (okay.) she could only meet in private for 45 minutes. I wished her luck and gav her a hard pass. A few weeks later she texted me wanting me to buy her a $3000 pair of shoes and saying her anxiety was better and we could meet for longer. Okay, still a hard pass.

If they want to just meet for a short period of time it is a better use of your whoring dollar to just go to an AMP or AAMP. It costs you less and gets the job done. Yeah, you might get a granny but she probably won't be enormously fat, which is a very real risk with any of the girls on a Sugar site. So it comes out about the same.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;6795031][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5e8de7e-5f98-4497-a4fc-83a954e58467[/URL]

Has anybody seen Miss-Kay? She looks like a pro but I can't find her anywhere.[/QUOTE]Mm the brakes have been beat off that one. Only 33 sheesh. Don't know about being a pro. Lot of pros on SA.

[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;6799517]Mm the brakes have been beat off that one. Only 33 sheesh. Don't know about being a pro. Lot of pros on SA.[/QUOTE]Would definitely skip that one, bio is entitled, is worn out, has children. Pics are likely not even accurate.

[QUOTE=HelloThar;6799819]Would definitely skip that one, bio is entitled, is worn out, has children. Pics are likely not even accurate.[/QUOTE]There are a few actual reports here. Pictures out of date as she is overweight now, foul odors, and even a Rob report.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cff53021-3f8c-4435-8c70-13c3d76a8ab7[/URL]

Picture seller.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;6798215]A couple of ones that seemed promising at first but went downhill after switching to text. Both over 30, not bad looking, well spoken and both a little delusional.

This one wanted "at least $600 ppm".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b194dd8-9036-4f29-9b75-59a40d936213[/URL]

This one wanted $750 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af64aa73-ffa2-418f-8efc-dd0232ddade8[/URL][/QUOTE]I must not be as charismatic. Out of curiosity I finished texting the second one and she wanted 1000 ppm. LOL.

What are these women on and where can I get some myself. You might as well get someone from the other board who knows what she's doing stay overnight or a threesome at that rate. Not to mention she's 30+ years old.

Think that's the highest I've seen yet.

[QUOTE=HelloThar;6798879]I would filter out every SA chick who bothered to make a wishlist if I could. I don't mind gifts in person, but not when randomly asked, or worse yet, when you haven't met before. Major red flag for sure.[/QUOTE]It depends on the profile. I find it can give insight into the girl. If all she wants is 1000 handbags, well, of course. What if it is all sex toys?

I also look carefully at all who say 'platonic. ' IK most of you guys block those immediately. Many who say platonic are just trying to avoid the messages that solicit them. And even some of those have sex toys on their wish lists. LOL.