"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE]HYB (hot young baby) was coined earlier in the thread to represent these girls from 18 to 25 I also called them Nando 3s or the sportsters who are the college girls that you are naming HCB (hot college Babys) There can be a distinction between the two as I see it. I like HCB.because my SO, HYB, HCB love of my life is a Nando 3 and 5 combo. She is highly educated, very smart, absolutely no drama, and just a joy to be with. This is the category that I will forever play in. I hope my Baby will elect to keep me around but if things change I will be looking in that group for my next baby. For me the educated girls are so much more success driven and are usually not in desperate straits.[/QUOTE]Nando, I agree with you that there is a subtle but important distinction between an HYB and an HCB. The site that I was on, SA, even makes a distinction as well, and labels some babies as "College Baby" if they use an email address with the. Edu extension as their private profile email. Makes it much easier for the Daddies to find this most desirable of pearls, not that I care at the moment.

Fix, and all my other brothers who have congratulated me on my virgin (no pun intended) overnight, I thank you. This thread has really evolved from its inception, and I imagine it will continue to do so, but it would be a shame if all us monogamous types retreated to our love nests and only occasionally posted about how happy we are. Where are all the newbies? Come on, men, regale us with tales from the front!

Scott

I have followed this thread from the beginning. I have a couple posts early on indicating similar intersts I have in dancers.

Well, I finally took the "plunge" and set a date with a HYB from the SD site. I'm not even a paying member, but responded to an e-mail from a full member. Her pics were great (almost too good) and she was a full member so I expected an escort using the site to find new customers. After e-mailing and texting a few times, we agreed to meet for drinks.

I was very pleased when she arrived to see that she was as hot as her pics. I didn't expect (or plan) for anything other than a meet and greet the firt night. But after a few drinks and great conversation that quickly progressed into heavy flirting, she agreed to come back to my place. Still no discussion of sugar.

Once at my place, we quickly got down to business. She decided to spend the night and still no discussion of sugar. We made 5 rounds that first night (haven't done that in decades) and she really seemed to enjoy herself as much as I did. We had an awkward discussion about sugar in the morning that ended in a happy compromise for both of us. She has overnighted twice since with similar excercise.

Other than fatigue from lack of sleep, I am having a great time. She is young, sexy, fun to have a few drinks with and has as much (if not more) sexual energy than I do (hard to find). I'm just kicking myself for being a non-believer and not trying this option sooner.

Unicorns do exist and boy are they fun to ride.

Welcome to the brotherhood, Max!

Keep up the good work,

Scott

Brothers,

Just browsing SA for fun and came across this text in a baby's profile. I thought it would bring you all a laugh or two:

"I am not picky with my clients or what sort of work they would like me to do so I'm willing to cater to any of your fantasies, no matter how wild or tame they may be. In addition, I DO NOT regard my clients solely as "walking banks" and WILL NOT treat our time together like an obligation. I do have some stringent values and not taking advantage of people happens to be one of them. In addition, I have done work with a disabled gentleman before and am more than willing to do so again."

Someone should clue her in that the correct term is "Sugar Daddy", not "client."

Scott

I thought I would ask for advice on sharing.

I have recently both shared and had shared to me SBs. The reason for both directions are the financial inability to maintain ones own SB.

In all cases, they are single Mom's with high sex drives that are living hand to mouth and in some financial stress. They want to see us more and more, to the point that we cannot afford it. So we share the load (so to speak).

In the case of two of my SBs, they specifically asked if I had any friends. Now I know some would say this puts them in the PRO category, but I do not think this is the case. I know them well and they certainly do not consider themselves prostituting themselves. They get some sex during the day from us, and they freely admit to playing with themselves most days without it, and I place the "grocery money" in a discrete place upon leaving. Donations are usually. 8 to $. And I guess I see them a couple of times a month or less.

This beats other ladies hands down as they are enthusiastic and really do want it.

Now I am not in the business of overnight fun, even though as I travel I may well look to see what is available in foreign parts LOL.

I carefully offered my SB information to a few select members on USAG; who I had known over the years and trusted. Several of them have partaken, some several times, and all are happy.

My question is this. Would you regular SD guys even ask the question of your SB "if she would like to a friend or two" of yours?

Would you give out contact information if asked (and your SB agreed)?

Regards.

GW

atMax .welcome and huzzah to you! 5 times / night (or even / week) is way beyond my aging capabilities. I am always impressed and I have to admit a little envious of guys who are capable of that kind of performance. Enjoy it while the fruit is ripe. I have had a lot of women throughout my multifucking days, but usually "only" once / session.

atScott.Pro or not a Pro?.that is always the question. Client? Hmmmm.I would guess that this young chippie had a little freudian slip when she let the C word slip.

atGuy.You seem to have discovered some valuable Tweeners and it sounds like a good deal for you.congrats! If I were not involved with my SB I would love to join your rotation. Would I share? Absolutely if I have a similar situation.

Yes. I am never quite sure where the SB stops and the Tweeners begin. I suspect a tweener is certainly not a HYB, usually at least upper 20's and 30's, and often a single mother. As alluded to in various reports on this thread, an SB is often hoped to be monogamous. However many are not. So do they become tweeners then? .

[QUOTE=Hernando;1332039]atGuy.You seem to have discovered some valuable Tweeners and it sounds like a good deal for you.congrats! If I were not involved with my SB I would love to join your rotation. Would I share? Absolutely if I have a similar situation.[/QUOTE]

Didn't want everyone to think I'd disappeared. .

Have given up on the SD4Me site and concentrated on the SA site the last month, but also facing greater than usual (seasonal) demands on my time and mad money, and being pretty selective. Have exchanged emails with several ladies on SA. Have turned a few down because of their work (I make it a point to avoid pros of any level, including dancers) , and had some fade away. Met one late-20s mom who was absolutely stunning and very sweet, but she's been thru a lot of ex drama that's left her pretty screwed up in the head; I don't need the drama added to my life. Met another early-30's back-in-school single lady, amazing kisser and magnificent tits but somewhat heavy; we're still trying to schedule a play date. Have even made a contact outside my race, something I generally avoid like the plague (again, no need for the drama) but this girl is beautiful, sexy as hell and seems like a real sweetheart; time for her won't work for another week or so. Couple others that I'm still working on, and initial contacts out to a few others.

So I'm around, just not real active. Hopefully that's changing.

Sorry about the bad typing. I will preview the reports in the future

Re :Tweeners vs. SBs. Guess what? They are ALL escorts! The relationship totally depends on the exchange of money. If you take the $$ out of the equation would the girl agree to spend time with the Daddy? That would be a NO. If she would then that would constitute a legitimate relationship and you would call her girlfriend.

Tweeners are just escorts who charge a cheaper rate because they want to stay UTR and don't want to put themselves out there to the general population, therefore don't command the higher rates. They are not so desperate to walk the streets however and usually see a lower volume of clients to help them make ends meet. If they just see one guy then I guess you would call her a SB.

SBs also exchange money for sexual favors. They frequently see only one Daddy but many stack the deck and see more. They generally offer a regular relationship and extended periods of time more like a dating. We can couch it in any terms that we want, but guaranteeing a girl $$ and expecting boyfriend privileges in my book is prostitution.

Is Marriage Prostitution? Hmmmm. Lets see. Men frequently support the wife and expect sexual favors in return-just asking? Is the wife going to stay if you stop working and there is no money? How about guys who have working wives and they are stay at homers? Are they Gigolos? Just asking?

What's in a name anyway? Who cares what you call it as long as the two partners are enjoying thenselves?

[QUOTE=Guywoodson;1331994]My question is this. Would you regular SD guys even ask the question of your SB "if she would like to see a friend or two" of yours?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Guywoodson;1331994]Would you give out contact information if asked (and your SB agreed)?[/QUOTE]This is really the same question and the answer is the same.

No.

This would not be helping. I don't have any male friends I know so well to know what they are like behind closed doors.

This relationship requires discretion at every turn.

[QUOTE=Guywoodson;1331994]This beats other ladies hands down as they are enthusiastic and really do want it.[/QUOTE]We never know what is behind that smile. We pick them out, not the other way around. That is a big difference and drives everything.

Gentlemen,

I am heading out of town next week for several days, visiting clients in two different cities where I have previously connected with OTR babies. My current thinking is that I will get back in touch with them and see if they would like to just have drinks with me after a long and tiring day; you know, for old times sake. I think their feelings would be hurt if they found out I had visited their cities and not looked them up, don't you?

I swear I would have no ulterior motive beyond two old friends, getting together to reminisce about the good old days of fucking ourselves silly.

Doesn't this sound like a thoughtful, considerate and sensible plan? I mean, it's not like I can take my ATF with me or anything.

I await your responses,

Scott

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1333271]Gentlemen,

I am heading out of town next week for several days, visiting clients in two different cities where I have previously connected with OTR babies. My current thinking is that I will get back in touch with them and see if they would like to just have drinks with me after a long and tiring day; you know, for old times sake. I think their feelings would be hurt if they found out I had visited their cities and not looked them up, don't you?

I swear I would have no ulterior motive beyond two old friends, getting together to reminisce about the good old days of fucking ourselves silly.

Doesn't this sound like a thoughtful, considerate and sensible plan? I mean, it's not like I can take my ATF with me or anything.

I await your responses,

Scott[/QUOTE]Scott,

It seems thoughtful, considerate and sensible all at the same time. It is best to keep them thinking about you so when you make these trips you have options. If you don't stay in touch you will have to do all the work again finding more babies.

Have Fun.

Fix

[QUOTE=Fixinit; 1333294]Scott,

It seems thoughtful, considerate and sensible all at the same time. It is best to keep them thinking about you so when you make these trips you have options. If you don't stay in touch you will have to do all the work again finding more babies.

Have Fun.

Fix[/QUOTE]Thanks Fix. I like your clear thinking on this. Who in their right mind would want [I]more[/I] work, right?

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1333271]Gentlemen,

I am heading out of town next week for several days, visiting clients in two different cities where I have previously connected with OTR babies. My current thinking is that I will get back in touch with them and see if they would like to just have drinks with me after a long and tiring day; you know, for old times sake. I think their feelings would be hurt if they found out I had visited their cities and not looked them up, don't you?

I swear I would have no ulterior motive beyond two old friends, getting together to reminisce about the good old days of fucking ourselves silly.

Doesn't this sound like a thoughtful, considerate and sensible plan? I mean, it's not like I can take my ATF with me or anything.

I await your responses,

Scott[/QUOTE]I assume the acquaintance, a generation younger, would rather not be asked to a sugar-free encounter of any type, even to a nice dinner. I assume she would have no interest in anything less than their last encounter plus a good reason why it has been so long in coming. Just by asking Scott is forcing her to go and pretend or decline, neither of which would she want to do, secondary to not buying the excuse why Scott is not having a real encounter with her in the first place, given their history together, given he is in town when it always happened before. The suggested approach is asking a lot of her.

Just my view.

Scotty, you seem to be reluctant to stick with your ATF in spite of her being (almost) all you are looking for.

Let me share a recent story. An ATF escort recently came to town and since there was a little gap in my timeline to see my ATF HYB HCB I went to see her. As usual I had a great time dancing the pro dance. These gals really know how to fuck and hit those sex buttons, but afterward I felt a little melancholy since even though she was snuggling with me I wasn't in the mood and went on home. I was also thinking about how I would love to have that $$ back to spend on my ATF instead since my resources are a little tapped out here at Christmas time.

Sooo, was it worth it? Probably not.