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[QUOTE=Landis1;2646330] P.S. Massage. Also Q&Q and Wiggins pass operated under same management.[/QUOTE]What is Q and Q?
Oh. Where is Ocean? Or is it a street where located? Green Building? I cannot decipher the code due to being not from Naples or Bonita.
[QUOTE=Freedom2B;2646626]What is Q and Q?
Oh. Where is Ocean? Or is it a street where located? Green Building? I cannot decipher the code due to being not from Naples or Bonita.[/QUOTE]Oceans - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/7999-4-hand-special-treat-youself-like-a-king-239-298-9562/16000867[/URL].
Been about 6 months since last dream. Rt only but fun.
Green Bldg. - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-spa-ever-new-management-dream-inducing-massage/17006436[/URL].
Been about a year since last dream. FS but was getting expensive so didn't try again.
Q & Q - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/5999-special-best-deep-tissuethree-prettyandsweet-girl-pick-oneand-call-2393003940/14768337[/URL].
Been about two years since last dream. Lame rt.
I have been dreaming only of ladies I know lately, so I have no new info.
I tried Davis and was quoted $$ extra for everything right at the beginning.
When I wouldn't accept that it was $ nude HJ & $. 4 nude CBJ. Not happening.
Just laid down and made her do the massage for the hour. . 2 tip for being cute.
They all are starting to ask for $$ FS so I stopped going.
Someone is paying that and screwing everyone else.
Got a PM asking me about tipping here in Naples area for AMPs. I decided to cut and paste my answer on the Forum because it might help us all. With the horny Northerners coming back (me), some providers think we are easy marks. One gets a 200 tip and all think they can or will try.
So, this is what I wrote. My opinion:
OK, tipping is a good subject. Some have spoiled it for us all. Some are paying the asking 100 - 140 to 200 tip = crazy. I found out that generally in Naples:
$20 tip for just a massage good massage experience. Fair for time she invested.
$40 tip with HJ and some play. Some girls will ask for 60 to 100 believe it or not.
$60 tip for naked HJ and playing -lots of fun.
$150 Total (entrance fee 70 & 80 tip given up front with a clear understanding, I even place it on table for them to see with my stuff) for CFS and great time, multi positions or whatever.
They will / may try to always push for more. Don't go in with more. They don't want to leave empty handed, so to speak, with nothing.
Typically if you don't first agree up front, they will say 100 or 150 tip when they have you with the small head in hand. They think they got you. Best approach is to just give a good old belly laugh with a "Are you kidding?
You have to realize they are pros, and culturally, they negotiate for everything, and always will try HIGH. 3 times in a row, but usually will back down to reason. If not, walk. Or if they think you will they will get very flexible.
I do tip relative to attitude and maybe sympathy. Good hard working girl with great attitude deserves maybe a little more. Cultivate good ones and make return visits easy. It is a game to them and they are there for money. Shitty attitude deserves less or none. If you go and pay for an hour, and you end up finished in 1/2 hour and you do like a good massage. Tell them to finish your time or tip less or ask for 1/2 hour bucks back. They know they are taking you for a ride and won't really be surprised, even if they act so.
Maybe these questions are so pertinent that I will post this on the actual forum as my opinion.
Maybe so many others won't be fooled into foolishness? Play smart and reasonable and treat the good ones well. They deserve it.
Happy Hunting,
Happy Guy 2.
[QUOTE=Gotj17;2647006]I have been dreaming only of ladies I know lately, so I have no new info.
I tried Davis and was quoted $$ extra for everything right at the beginning.
When I wouldn't accept that it was $ nude HJ & $. 4 nude CBJ. Not happening.
Just laid down and made her do the massage for the hour. . 2 tip for being cute.
They all are starting to ask for $$ FS so I stopped going.
Someone is paying that and screwing everyone else.[/QUOTE]Way to go Jotj17:
Perfect solution for attempted outrageous demands. They will learn fast if we all do this:
"Just laid down and made her do the massage for the hour. . 2 tip for being cute. ".
Beautiful. They are a massage parlor, right? I would adjust the .2 down if shorted in time - Point it out on the clock or your watch.
Be smart,
Happy Guy 2.
Went this morning in response to a backpage ad offering an early bird special at the AMP at the green building off of 41. The ad stated $50 house fee for the hour from 8 am to 10 am. Problem was, no table shower was offered at any price point so they referred me to the cambrige AMP whitel building near the corner of pine ridge & livingston rd. Jenny was there, I had to ask to do the table shower first otherwise I felt as though she was not going to offer. Found out my credit card was charged afterwards not for the AGREED UPON $72 AN HOUR BUT FOR $87 BUCKS!! Not to mention she would not budge from her $175 full service tip. Settle for a CBJ for $100. Too much haggle & hustle for me. Both joints have the same owner. Would not repeat!
[QUOTE=PaulHamnet;2647338]Went this morning in response to a backpage ad offering an early bird special at the AMP at the green building off of 41. The ad stated $50 house fee for the hour from 8 am to 10 am. Problem was, no table shower was offered at any price point so they referred me to the cambrige AMP whitel building near the corner of pine ridge & livingston rd. Jenny was there, I had to ask to do the table shower first otherwise I felt as though she was not going to offer. Found out my credit card was charged afterwards not for the AGREED UPON $72 AN HOUR BUT FOR $87 BUCKS!! Not to mention she would not budge from her $175 full service tip. Settle for a CBJ for $100. Too much haggle & hustle for me. Both joints have the same owner. Would not repeat![/QUOTE]I believe Creech Rd is same owner also.
All depends on who the provider is no matter where you go.
HG2.
[QUOTE=Gotj17;2646991]Oceans - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/7999-4-hand-special-treat-youself-like-a-king-239-298-9562/16000867[/URL].
Been about 6 months since last dream. Rt only but fun.
Green Bldg. - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-spa-ever-new-management-dream-inducing-massage/17006436[/URL].
Been about a year since last dream. FS but was getting expensive so didn't try again.
Q & Q - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/5999-special-best-deep-tissuethree-prettyandsweet-girl-pick-oneand-call-2393003940/14768337[/URL].
Been about two years since last dream. Lame rt.[/QUOTE]I guess I should have explored BP main page further, LOL. I am quick linked to Esc page.
I JUST LOVE the hot sexy young asian women pics. As if anyone approaching that type of hot looks would be at one of those places. From what I have heard or dreamed, they are usually short, stocky older women or maybe a few younger, late 20's. Cutish but no were near such sexiness. LOL at the bait and switch.
If there are any that hot to dream of out there, who also give good massage, let me know so I can tell my buddy. What kind of upcharge should he expect for BBBJCIM or FS?
Nevermind. I did not read subsequent posts with abundance of useful knowledge.
Thnks to all.
[QUOTE=Gotj17;2646991]Oceans - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/7999-4-hand-special-treat-youself-like-a-king-239-298-9562/16000867[/URL].
Been about 6 months since last dream. Rt only but fun.
Green Bldg. - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/best-spa-ever-new-management-dream-inducing-massage/17006436[/URL].
Been about a year since last dream. FS but was getting expensive so didn't try again.
Q & Q - [URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/5999-special-best-deep-tissuethree-prettyandsweet-girl-pick-oneand-call-2393003940/14768337[/URL].
Been about two years since last dream. Lame rt.[/QUOTE]
They would call it price fixing and ask the govt to file anti trust suit. LOL.
I think this post is so informative actually. I think. 40 for HJ HE and. 6 for naked HJ HE is a bit high. They could at least give it two good licks and three good sucks, just so you can say that they did in your mind, for memories sake you know. It would also impress image in mind to get you back there again. A teaser.
Do they earn ONLY fron their tips or do they get a split of the. 7 with the house, which I should think, even if only. 2?
If that 150 layed on the johnson on the table works, then that is MINT! That is, if they follow through and do not claim ' I no speak english'. I think the 70 +80 makes total sense as a management / house split plus provider split for the hour. The massage, good or bad, is a loss leader for the HE and whether good or bad depends on the wants of the CUSTOMER!! If one cares less about massage, then repeat business should not be hindered for them. THey should just perform on the BJ or FS to get repeat customers with a great cute attitude and maybe some laughs. A customer wanting a very good massage plus the 15 to 20 min of the fun stuff, preferably starting no later than 20 min into the session, only is good for regaining their business but maybe a larger tip should be obligatory.
If I were to FULLY dream right for one hour, I would say I would want a clean and clean smelling room / table / masseuse and want a deep massage on back, flip me, play a bit to get me going with good cute tease and fun attitude, play HJ without the slippery lube shit till hard or BBBJ to get hard, then BBBJ or CBJ for a bit, then FS in a couple positions laying and standing (nude full access) until finish in cover, or finish with BJ in cover or BBBJCIM / COB. Then back on table for any remaining time with relaxing sensual touch massage to finish the experience with a great smile. THAT would be fair for a $200 total. (. 70+$. 3) but $. 8 would be much better for all to strive for. Maybe $. 3 total for great massage and BJ finish if well performed, otherwise, $. 10 (. 7 house + . 4 tip) for blah CBJ. If just massage and HJ HE which lasts all of about 1 to 2 min if they use the slippery lube shit, I think that is implied as included with svc and only to get you back for next massage session. Only. 2 to. 3 tip should be yielded, IMHO (in my humble opinion).
Or, if light massage / shitty massage, then maybe $. 7 total.
If only half hour with 4 min massage then immediate flip to the fun, then I would think that deducting about from the FS or BJ tips. I can see, for good fun service, the. 7+. 8 for all, total $. 5.
That is how I would dream if I were to dream, that is.
In all, it is probably a good bet that the older dudes with money down in Naples environ are probably spoiling them and are satisfied with shitty results. Ruins it for the rest and makes the providers slack off on service / attitude. Spoiled.
[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;2647147]Got a PM asking me about tipping here in Naples area for AMPs. I decided to cut and paste my answer on the Forum because it might help us all. With the horny Northerners coming back (me), some providers think we are easy marks. One gets a 200 tip and all think they can or will try.
So, this is what I wrote. My opinion:
OK, tipping is a good subject. Some have spoiled it for us all. Some are paying the asking 100 - 140 to 200 tip = crazy. I found out that generally in Naples:
$20 tip for just a massage good massage experience. Fair for time she invested.
$40 tip with HJ and some play. Some girls will ask for 60 to 100 believe it or not.
$60 tip for naked HJ and playing -lots of fun.
$150 Total (entrance fee 70 & 80 tip given up front with a clear understanding, I even place it on table for them to see with my stuff) for CFS and great time, multi positions or whatever.
They will / may try to always push for more. Don't go in with more. They don't want to leave empty handed, so to speak, with nothing.
Typically if you don't first agree up front, they will say 100 or 150 tip when they have you with the small head in hand. They think they got you. Best approach is to just give a good old belly laugh with a "Are you kidding?
You have to realize they are pros, and culturally, they negotiate for everything, and always will try HIGH. 3 times in a row, but usually will back down to reason. If not, walk. Or if they think you will they will get very flexible.
I do tip relative to attitude and maybe sympathy. Good hard working girl with great attitude deserves maybe a little more. Cultivate good ones and make return visits easy. It is a game to them and they are there for money. Shitty attitude deserves less or none. If you go and pay for an hour, and you end up finished in 1/2 hour and you do like a good massage. Tell them to finish your time or tip less or ask for 1/2 hour bucks back. They know they are taking you for a ride and won't really be surprised, even if they act so.
Maybe these questions are so pertinent that I will post this on the actual forum as my opinion.
Maybe so many others won't be fooled into foolishness? Play smart and reasonable and treat the good ones well. They deserve it.
Happy Hunting,
Happy Guy 2.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PaulHamnet;2647338]Found out my credit card was charged afterwards not for the AGREED UPON $72 AN HOUR BUT FOR $87 BUCKS!! Not to mention she would not budge from her $175 full service tip. Settle for a CBJ for $100.[/QUOTE]Using a cc and $187 for a CBJ.
Did Davis and Shawdowlawn today. To expensive but did receive my request.
Will try another one in a few weeks and report.
[QUOTE=MrLucky;2648494]Did Davis and Shawdowlawn today. To expensive but did receive my request.
Will try another one in a few weeks and report.[/QUOTE]$$ FS, right?
That's where I flipped over and made her spend an hour just massaging my back for a .2 tip.
Until about a year ago or so life was good. Five years ago life was great.
Then the idiots started overpaying. If that is any of you, too bad, you suck.
HJ was. 2 to. 4 depending on roaming and attitude.
CBJ was. 5 to. 6. Only one bb. That was before FS.
FS was. 8 to 1. And they were happy.
It didn't matter if it was hh or hr.
If we stick to this again, we could correct their expectations.
[URL]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/BodyRubs/now-in-ftmyers-hot-fantastic-exotic-sexy-latin-girl-in-town-call-now-239-410-2257/11583106[/URL]
Went there 2 months ago and had a great experience. Last time the girl was the same in the pic. This time the girl in the pic was busy so went with Jennifer. However the pic shown is one of them in the room. Jennifer speaks decent English. $100 door fee but don't let that scare you off. The rub was great as she uses her nails to scrape and sooth the skin hitting all the nerve endings on your arms, back, etc. She also used her voice to tantalize with breathing techniques and blowing in your ear to make you about to blow your mind. She than asked what I wanted, replied and delivered. Now this is what makes this more unusual. Since it was soooo quick. She relaxed me out and got me ready in 5 minutes to go again! No rush, no worries but a great experience where it was all about you. Will repeat and ask For Jennifer. Finished with #100 but well deserved gratuity for a total damage of $2 but worth every penny. The ladies are indy but work there together. It is by Del Prado and Pine Ridge.